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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 03, 2016, 12:48:05 PM
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Why Richmond Tigers must improve rapidly if they are to make 2016 AFL finals series in September
Tom Morris
Foxsports
April 3, 2016
WHAT is Richmond?
Are they premiership contenders, finals aspirants or simply making up the numbers?
On the evidence of the last two weeks, it would appear the Tigers are more the latter than the first two.
In Round 1, they narrowly defeated Carlton. On Friday night, Damien Hardwick’s men lost an error-riddled game to the Magpies by a solitary point.
Yet in fairness, a draw would have been an appropriate result such was the sloppiness of the game.
Even Nathan Buckley admitted Collingwood is “so far away” from where they want to be. But based on Friday night’s data, the Magpies are ahead of their Punt Road neighbours — if only by a whisker.
The harsh reality is Richmond’s premiership window is now. They aren’t planning for 2018 like Melbourne or St Kilda. They expect to be challenging now.
Only they’re not.
Richmond’s window is not in any immediate danger of closing — say in the mould of North Melbourne or even Hawthorn — rather it’s their propensity to waste three consecutive September opportunities that is most troubling. It won’t be open forever.
But in assessing the Tigers’ position, it’s first important to look at their list demographic.
Firstly, they have fewer players aged under 21 than any other club, indicating a conscious shift towards trading and drafting for the now rather than the future.
For further evidence, look no further than the 2011,12,13 and 14 rookie drafts.
In each of these intakes, the Tigers have acquired nine players and each of these nine has played at least one senior game, but only one has reached 50 matches.
And these rookies weren’t teenagers searching for a lifeline, rather mature-age recruits such as Ricky Petterd, Brad Miller, Matt Thomas and Orren Stephenson.
Only Anthony Miles has found a regular position in the team. The midfielder is also the only one of this nine that remains on the list.
So considering Richmond’s push to bring in Essendon-style top-ups, shouldn’t its premiership aspirations be immediate? The answer is of course yes — not that you’d know it from the first two rounds of the season.
Moreover, Champion Data rates their top eight players as elite, but their depth is far from top echelon.
In 2015, Tiger players ranked 17-22 by Champion Data had the fifth worst rating of any club in the AFL, illustrating this deficiency in their spread of talent.
In other words, having Brett Deledio, Jack Riewoldt, Dustin Martin and Alex Rance is all well and good, but they need more help.
It’s these so-called ‘mid-ranked’ players that continue to cost Richmond.
On Friday night, it was Shaun Grigg who Damien Hardwick singled out. Grigg may have accumulated 30 disposals for the evening, but in the critical moment, he failed.
“I thought we played some really unintelligent footy towards the end,” Damien Hardwick lamented post-match.
“Shaun Grigg, with a minute-and-a-half to go, has a long shot from outside 50 and we play on.
“From a situation like that, we never do that.”
Cast your mind back to last June, when similarly rated Tiger Bachar Houli made a poor mistake in the dying seconds of his team’s loss to Fremantle at the MCG.
At least on Friday night, faced with an almost identical scenario, the skilful left-footer played on from stuff and booted the Sherrin long and away from danger.
Although these incidents are isolated events within games, as a pattern they paint a bleak picture for a club that is starved of finals success despite finishing in the top eight in each of the past three seasons.
But it’s not all doom and gloom.
At 1-1, Richmond’s season is hardly teetering on the brink — although dates with Adelaide and West Coast in Rounds 3 and 4 complicate matters somewhat. And seven ordinary quarters out of eight does not exactly fill the Richmond faithful with hope at this early stage.
“It’s a tough game,” Hardwick said.
“Collingwood had some players out and we had some guys out. I still thought we had enough players to win the game.
“We’ve got to battle and hang tough … and get back on track.”
Maybe this last quote illustrates the underlying issue for the Tigers.
Much like Hardwick the player, they have become accustomed to scratching and clawing under Hardwick the coach.
If dare and flair is how games will be won this year, then Richmond is well off the mark.
Admittedly, the Tigers will continue to fight, but the very best teams rise above weekly cage fights.
Sure, Hawthorn, Sydney and West Coast are prepared to lock horns with their opposition and battle for the four points to the bitter end, but in the vast majority of their games, they don’t give the other team a sniff in the first place.
And once these top teams are in front — even by a couple of goals — they rarely let the opposition back in the contest.
They are ruthlessly efficient. The same cannot be said for Richmond, who lack proficiency — which hurt them against the Magpies.
Maybe they are saving their best for September?
Based on Rounds 1 and 2, something needs to change if they are to progress beyond August.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/why-richmond-tigers-must-improve-rapidly-if-they-are-to-make-2016-afl-finals-series-in-september/news-story/bdae4771d245146e9a9a07df90a1959c
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What does our list look like when you don't consider rookies? Everyone knows we use our rookie list differently and go for safe depth over the young kids.
Also, they mention only one player has made 50 games off our rookie list in those years but how many do other clubs have? I imagine not many have much more
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We've taken four kids over the last two rookie drafts...Castagna, Short, Choi & Moore - 5 if you want to count Soldo....
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What does our list look like when you don't consider rookies? Everyone knows we use our rookie list differently and go for safe depth over the young kids.
Also, they mention only one player has made 50 games off our rookie list in those years but how many do other clubs have? I imagine not many have much more
I have done this to death over the years.
Under Jackson, that is the last 10 yrs we would have utilised at least 40 rookie picks and plenty of picks after the third round on top of that. and only one imo has turned out to be an above average player and that is Miles. the best of the rest would be King and Nahas.. It is a similar story with late nd picksafter the third round. in fact it is similar with most picks outside of the 1st round of the nd.Only Grimes comes to mind and he was a psd pick.
If you are looking for a team who has had good success with rookie picks and very late nd picks you know 4th round onwards look no further than the one we played on friday night.Their 2010 premiership side would have had 9 or 10 players taken after pick 60. 5 or 6 would have been rookies. Thats just their premiership side.ANd all of em would have played 100 games forget about 50.
Some others who did not play in that premiership side
Seedsman, Williams, J Thomas, Witts, Sinclair, Frost, Oxley, Marsh, Langdon, Keefe, Nearly all of em rookie picks and not one taken inside pick 60.I think most will go on to play at least 50 games.
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Seedsman is not there anymore.
Sinclair is according to most Pies supporters I know not up to it.
Marsh is quick but is an atrocious kick.
Keefe and Thomas are serving the second of their 2 year holiday.
Out of the rest most only rate Oxley.
Just because we found a way to lose, disguises the fact that the pies were just so poor in the last two weeks. I would hardly be praising them. Take out Pendelbury, Treloar, Elliott and poosibly Moore, they don't have too much class IMHO.
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Yeah Pies are ass. Wouldn't use them as any kind of benchmark.
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Seedsman is not there anymore.
Sinclair is according to most Pies supporters I know not up to it.
Marsh is quick but is an atrocious kick.
Keefe and Thomas are serving the second of their 2 year holiday.
Out of the rest most only rate Oxley.
Just because we found a way to lose, disguises the fact that the pies were just so poor in the last two weeks. I would hardly be praising them. Take out Pendelbury, Treloar, Elliott and poosibly Moore, they don't have too much class IMHO.
Whos praising them The question was how many rookies from other clubs have played 50 games.
I mentioned just one club and they have had god knows how many who fit that criteria.I extended the criteria to picks after the 3rd round basically picks from 60 onwards.And included many late nd and rookie picks from recent years.
Seedsman - played 76 games for them i have no idea why he is not there anymore he is doing okay in adelaide. he is still a rookie pick weather he is there or not. Maybe Nahas doesnt count because he is now at nm.
Sinclair - has played 46 games and will likely meet the 50 game criteria this year i wasnt asked to rate them.
Marsh - has enormous upside . atrocious kick my arse. He did enough to get a two yr extension after one season.An athletic stuff who they have turned into a promising tall defender.
Keefe - They thought high enough of Keefe to keep him. He will play plenty of games next year imo. Without the two year suspension he would be well over 50 games by now.Keefe Brown and Reid will give them a very good tall defensive set up
Thomas - played 32 games and looked half decent to me, especially for a rookie pick.Again they thought enough of him to keep him.Probably would have played more than 50 games by now if not for the suspension.
Oxley - has only played 20 - 25 odd games he looks like he will be at least a 100 plus gamer.
Williams - will probably reach 50 games this yr.
Frost - will probably just be back up but he is no worse than some of our kpds.
Langdon - became a regular in his first season i wish we could draft young rookies and get that sort of result. He has managed 42 games already.
Witts - geez a ruckman who has come thru the rookie system dunno where he will end up.I wish we could boast a similar result in the rookie draft when was the last time we had a ruckman play many games from anywhere in the drafts.
But wait lets look at those who Played in their PREMIERSHIP. You know those things we only dream about.
Maxwell - retired played what 200 plus.
Toovey - 100 plus games
Lumumba - traded played 200 plus.
Wellingham - traded 100 plus games.
Swan - a pick in the 4th round 200 plus games.
Johnson - retired a pick in the 5th round 200 plus gamer.
Blair - 100 plus gamer.
Macaffer - 74 games.
Goldsack - Goldsack 100 plus games.
No one expects guns with rookie picks or late nd picks but Collingwood have done well with these picks especially when compared to our efforts with them.
Seems to me they find plenty of players unlike us with these late picks.I wish we could do as well.
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I know one poster who was praising them no end
Frankly it was sickening especially as they are so harsh on RFC
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Ah the idiot head brigade have arrived.
Praising them!!!!
i dont think so, just rate them higher than our lot.Its not a hard thing to do atm.Seems that is not allowed rating other teams better than your own how dare people think that way eh.
So here we are talking about rookies and late nd picks and who has done better with those types of picks and what do we get? A idiot head trying to take a cheap shot, with another nothing post aimed to derail the topic a p[ost that is totally irrelevant to the topic being discussed. No wonder all decent discussion goes out the window on this site..
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You wouldn't know decent discussion if it slapped you in the face
And yes you were praising them, if that wasn't your intention please be aware that perception is in the eyes of the beholder
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You wouldn't know decent discussion if it slapped you in the face
And yes you were praising them, if that wasn't your intention please be aware that perception is in the eyes of the beholder
Yep way to derail a topic well done, another totally irrelevant post to the topic that was being discussed. Wheres your spineless Hyena brethren funny man. Not like you to have the courage to be about by yourself.
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On a basic level I think the issue we have at the moment is our A graders performances have plateaued and our 2nd tier players haven't lifted their level enough to fill the gap. As a result we have become a team bereft of star power and if we dont perform at a peak level across the board any team in the competition will give us trouble. Other top sides do have this star power and it might just win you that 3 or 4 close games which make the difference between a top 4 side and a team battling to make the 8.
This season especially I keep hearing new names of players from other sides who weren't especially high draft picks but are suddenly performing at a higher level. We dont seem to have that same continual development so in our current situation we really dont have much left in the bank.
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On a basic level I think the issue we have at the moment is our A graders performances have plateaued and our 2nd tier players haven't lifted their level enough to fill the gap. As a result we have become a team bereft of star power and if we dont perform at a peak level across the board any team in the competition will give us trouble. Other top sides do have this star power and it might just win you that 3 or 4 close games which make the difference between a top 4 side and a team battling to make the 8.
This season especially I keep hearing new names of players from other sides who weren't especially high draft picks but are suddenly performing at a higher level. We dont seem to have that same continual development so in our current situation we really dont have much left in the bank.
Good summation.
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You wouldn't know decent discussion if it slapped you in the face
And yes you were praising them, if that wasn't your intention please be aware that perception is in the eyes of the beholder
Yep way to derail a topic well done D/H, another totally irrelevant post to the topic that was being discussed. Wheres your spineless Hyena brethren funny man. Not like you to have the courage to be about by yourself.
You make me laugh
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Yeah Pies are ass. Wouldn't use them as any kind of benchmark.
This
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well done to collingwood for going the full rebuild from a flag winning position
very brave , long term list building :clapping
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On a basic level I think the issue we have at the moment is our A graders performances have plateaued and our 2nd tier players haven't lifted their level enough to fill the gap. As a result we have become a team bereft of star power and if we dont perform at a peak level across the board any team in the competition will give us trouble. Other top sides do have this star power and it might just win you that 3 or 4 close games which make the difference between a top 4 side and a team battling to make the 8.
This season especially I keep hearing new names of players from other sides who weren't especially high draft picks but are suddenly performing at a higher level. We dont seem to have that same continual development so in our current situation we really dont have much left in the bank.
Spot on Lozza :thumbsup
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Football Department
General Manager of Football-Dan Richardson Fail
General Manager of Player Personnel & List Management-Blair Hartley Fail
Executive and Administration Assistant Football-Ashleigh Dummett Fail
AFL Compliance, Scheduling and Administration Manager-Jenna Earle Fail
Head of Coaching & Football Performance-Tim Livingstone Fail
Player Development Manager-Bronwyn Doig Fail
Leadership Consultant-Gerard Murphy Fail
Senior Coach-Damien Hardwick Fail
Defensive Coach-Ross Smith Fail
Midfield Stoppage Coach-Brendon Lade Fail
Defenders Coach-Ben RuttenFail
Offensive Coach-Mark Williams Fail
Senior Development Coach-Mark 'Choco' Williams Fail
Forwards Coach-Greg Mellor Fail
Development Coach-Ryan Ferguson Fail
Development Coach-Andrew McQualter Fail
VFL Coach-Craig McRae Fail
VFL Football Operations Manager-Daniel Hull Fail
Opposition Analyst and Pro Scout-Nick Austin Fail
Football Technology Coordinator-Simon Reinsch Fail
Football Technology Assistant-Michael Stuart Fail
Recruitment Manager-Francis Jackson Fail
Recruiting Officer-Matthew Clarke Fail
Recruiting Officer-Richard Taylor Fail
Recruiting Officer-Luke Williams Fail
Physical Performance Manager-Peter Burge Fail
Rehabilitation and Conditioning Coach-Luke Meehan Fail
Strength & Conditioning Coach-Adam Douglas Fail
Sports Science Advisor-Brendan Fahrner Fail
VFL Strength and Conditioning-Rob Inness Fail
Head Trainer & Myotherapist-Matt Pearce Fail
Boxing Coach-John Vickery Fail
Property and Facility Manager-Giuseppe Mamone Fail
Chaplain-Geoff Shepherd Fail
Too many duds.....
Start again.
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Collective arse covering. How many more years can they milk a wage ?
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Football Department
General Manager of Football-Dan Richardson Fail
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Too many duds.....
Start again.
Serious or not, have you got any idea outside of the main players what the roles are of all the people you've labelled "failed"
Seriously you think Choco Williams has failed? Rutten as a 2nd year assistant coach has failed
There are some people on that list that have definitely not "failed" ;)
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Football Department
General Manager of Football-Dan Richardson Fail
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Too many duds.....
Start again.
Serious or not, have you got any idea outside of the main players what the roles are of all the people you've labelled "failed"
Seriously you think Choco Williams has failed? Rutten as a 2nd year assistant coach has failed
There are some people on that list that have definitely not "failed" ;)
You'd have to admit though that given the evident performance failures that at least more than half have failed.
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Geoff Shepherd is not a fail. His role is the Chaplain, not the Chaplin! ;D
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Satanic
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Whos praising them The question was how many rookies from other clubs have played 50 games.
I mentioned just one club and they have had god knows how many who fit that criteria.I extended the criteria to picks after the 3rd round basically picks from 60 onwards.And included many late nd and rookie picks from recent years.
Yeah, which was pretty pointless. Now provide us on the Richmond players because we have nothing to compare with
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[You'd have to admit though that given the evident performance failures that at least more than half have failed.
Not disputing some have failed
But to suggest ALL have failed is just not correct
Look at McRae he's been back 6 months a bit foolish to suggest he has failed
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Football Department
General Manager of Football-Dan Richardson Fail
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Too many duds.....
Start again.
Serious or not, have you got any idea outside of the main players what the roles are of all the people you've labelled "failed"
Seriously you think Choco Williams has failed? Rutten as a 2nd year assistant coach has failed
There are some people on that list that have definitely not "failed" ;)
Ok WP maybe I was a little harsh.....
Football Department
General Manager of Football-Dan Richardson Fail
Promised a big fish gave us sardines. :wallywink
General Manager of Player Personnel & List Management-Blair Hartley Fail Massive fail for too many reasons to mention. Where is our ruckman? Where's our gun midfielder? Who's replacing Chaplin? :banghead :banghead :banghead
Executive and Administration Assistant Football-Ashleigh Dummett Ok Ashliegh is alright. But don't mention the Christmas party. :whistle
AFL Compliance, Scheduling and Administration Manager-Jenna Earle Ok I heard she's doing a great job with scheduling and she goes alright. :snidegrin
Head of Coaching & Football Performance-Tim Livingstone Fail
Our coaches aren't inventive or risk takers, all still trying to copy last years fad. The coaches were all outperformed in the last three finals. :banghead
Player Development Manager-Bronwyn Doig TBA I think Browyn needs to have a good look at how she's developing.
Leadership Consultant-Gerard Murphy Fail The biggest problem we have at Richmond is leadership Gerald. :scream
Senior Coach-Damien Hardwick Fail Dumma said He will make us a premiership team because he knew how. He also said that unless a player can win his own ball he won't be playing in the jumper. He also thinks Hampsud is ok. You've failed us Dumma. :banghead
Defensive Coach-Ross Smith Fail We are a rabble this year in defence.
Midfield Stoppage Coach-Brendon Lade Fail This dufus is only there because he's best mates with Dumma. :stupid
Defenders Coach-Ben RuttenFail Besides maybe Rance, our defenders don't have a clue this year, just ask Astbury. :stupid
Offensive Coach-Mark Williams Fail shooting blanks.
Senior Development Coach-Mark 'Choco' Williams Fail Excluding obvious improvement in Rance, Martin etc. I still see players going backwards when drafted to us.
Forwards Coach-Greg Mellor Fail We are still waiting for any semblance of what you'd call a decent forward structure.
Development Coach-Ryan Ferguson Fail Elton Struggled.
Development Coach-Andrew McQualter Fail See Elton Struggled
VFL Coach-Craig McRae TBA we will see.
VFL Football Operations Manager-Daniel Hull Fail If it's this guys job to get a decent VFL squad then it's a fail.
Opposition Analyst and Pro Scout-Nick Austin Fail we still can't beat Geelong or North and it's all Nicks fault.
Football Technology Coordinator-Simon Reinsch Fail We need the best and everyone in tech knows that Simon isn't the best. Just ask Michael.
Football Technology Assistant-Michael Stuart Fail Michael is mates with Simon who got him this gig.
Recruitment Manager-Francis Jackson Fail 10 years of duds, seriously?
Recruiting Officer-Matthew Clarke Fail you haven't improved the situation.
Recruiting Officer-Richard Taylor Fail find us something idiot!
Recruiting Officer-Luke Williams Fail Dud delist.
Physical Performance Manager-Peter Burge Fail We aren't physical enough Pete. Fail!
Rehabilitation and Conditioning Coach-Luke Meehan Fail Conca and Grimes still getting injured, lift your games Luke.
Strength & Conditioning Coach-Adam Douglas Fail still one of the softest teams in the AFL.
Sports Science Advisor-Brendan Fahrner Fail We are still too slow and our recovery is terrible. Whatever it takes Brendan!
VFL Strength and Conditioning-Rob Inness Fail the kids are too skinny.
Head Trainer & Myotherapist-Matt Pearce Fail why isnt Deledio playing yet? Or Yarran? Or Maric? Maybe your hands are too soft.
Boxing Coach-John Vickery Fail I wouldn't bet on any of the players to win a boxing match.
Property and Facility Manager-Giuseppe Mamone Awesome (Sounds like he's Made) Well done Guiseppe. Great job!
Chaplain-Geoff Shepherd Fail your prayers aren't working chap! :pray
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[You'd have to admit though that given the evident performance failures that at least more than half have failed.
Not disputing some have failed
But to suggest ALL have failed is just not correct
Look at McRae he's been back 6 months a bit foolish to suggest he has failed
'Some' meaning most. That being the case, clean out required. Don't know how you could justify otherwise.
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'Some' meaning most. That being the case, clean out required. Don't know how you could justify otherwise.
Wouldn't even try with you because you'd whack me any for always being "positive" (which I'm not BTW) and making excuses
Executive and Administration Assistant Football-Ashleigh Dummett Ok Ashliegh is alright. :whistle
AFL Compliance, Scheduling and Administration Manager-Jenna Earle Ok I heard she's doing a great job with scheduling and she goes alright. :snidegrin
Snide comments and again do you know what their respective roles are?
Player Development Manager-Bronwyn Doig TBA I think Browyn needs to have a good look at how she's developing.
Again any idea what her role actually is?
Leadership Consultant-Gerard Murphy Fail The biggest problem we have at Richmond is leadership Gerald. :scream
Actually agree with you here. HE was bought in (he's from leading teams) and we seem to have gone backwards
Defenders Coach-Ben RuttenFail Besides maybe Rance, our defenders don't have a clue this year, just ask Astbury. :stupid
Again, it's his 2nd season & correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure in 2015 last season we had (based on all the stats) one of the best defences in the AFL. We are 2 games into season 2016 so to grade him fail is harsh and unrealistic
Senior Development Coach-Mark 'Choco' Williams Fail Excluding obvious improvement in Rance, Martin etc. I still see players going backwards when drafted to us.
Again harsh call...funny I'd say Menadue's improved, others as well but we don't discuss those because it defeats the purpose I suppose
Development Coach-Ryan Ferguson Fail Elton Struggled.
1st season full time in role.
Is Elton all you can come up with?
Development Coach-Andrew McQualter Fail See Elton Struggled
See above re Elton
VFL Football Operations Manager-Daniel Hull Fail If it's this guys job to get a decent VFL squad then it's a fail.
good blame the bloke who has nothing to do with picking the players that go on the list but carry on. His role is mainly admin of the VFL side
Property and Facility Manager-Giuseppe Mamone Awesome (Sounds like he's Made) Well done Guiseppe. Great job!
best in the business is Seppe ;D
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Agreed with sacking the vicker
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most of those are spot on excluding Mcrae, but give him a year and he will soon the join the list.
Hackson, Hackley and Vickery's old man still on the pay roll FMD.
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Both Vickerys gone at the end of the year...one by choice, the other - not so much.... :shh
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Senior Development Coach-Mark 'Choco' Williams Fail Excluding obvious improvement in Rance, Martin etc. I still see players going backwards when drafted to us.
Again harsh call...funny I'd say Menadue's improved, others as well but we don't discuss those because it defeats the purpose I suppose
Risky business talking about positives WP.
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Senior Development Coach-Mark 'Choco' Williams Fail Excluding obvious improvement in Rance, Martin etc. I still see players going backwards when drafted to us.
Again harsh call...funny I'd say Menadue's improved, others as well but we don't discuss those because it defeats the purpose I suppose
Risky business talking about positives WP.
Call 'em as I see 'em
I give out my fair share of whacks, cop some in return when people don't agree with me.
try to give kudos, when they are deserved
But to whack for the sake of it, with very little reason than appearing to want to play the man and not the ball well ... I'll leave that to the negativity very fast train :thumbsup
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Senior Development Coach-Mark 'Choco' Williams Fail Excluding obvious improvement in Rance, Martin etc. I still see players going backwards when drafted to us.
Again harsh call...funny I'd say Menadue's improved, others as well but we don't discuss those because it defeats the purpose I suppose
Risky business talking about positives WP.
Call 'em as I see 'em
I give out my fair share of whacks, cop some in return when people don't agree with me.
try to give kudos, when they are deserved
But to whack for the sake of it, with very little reason than appearing to want to play the man and not the ball well ... I'll leave that to the negativity very fast train :thumbsup
Nobody whacked you personally. But I see you have pre-emptivly got on the front foot in this respect. As a mod I guess this is sends a message as to acceptable posting. So be it.
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Nobody whacked you personally. But I see you have pre-emptivly got on the front foot in this respect. As a mod I guess this is sends a message as to acceptable posting. So be it.
Selective reading Dooks or just twisting things to suit a purpose?
Did i say Whacked in this thread?
No.
But i have been in a number of others - absolutely, which BTW I've not snipped. Copped a couple of good whacks after Friday night's loss for being critical. Will assume you missed those
So i haven't sent any message, you've attempted to read something that's not there.
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Nobody whacked you personally. But I see you have pre-emptivly got on the front foot in this respect. As a mod I guess this is sends a message as to acceptable posting. So be it.
Selective reading Dooks or just twisting things to suit a purpose?
Did i say Whacked in this thread?
No.
But i have been in a number of others - absolutely, which BTW I've not snipped. Copped a couple of good whacks after Friday night's loss for being critical. Will assume you missed those
So i haven't sent any message, you've attempted to read something that's not there.
No particular purpose other than your response didn't make sense (to go whack in this thread) in the context of the thread, which is why I've called you out in a sense.
Not sure why you would post what you did in this thread if it was in response to other threads. :huh
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'Some' meaning most. That being the case, clean out required. Don't know how you could justify otherwise.
Wouldn't even try with you because you'd whack me any for always being "positive" (which I'm not BTW) and making excuses
Executive and Administration Assistant Football-Ashleigh Dummett Ok Ashliegh is alright. :whistle
AFL Compliance, Scheduling and Administration Manager-Jenna Earle Ok I heard she's doing a great job with scheduling and she goes alright. :snidegrin
Snide comments and again do you know what their respective roles are?
Player Development Manager-Bronwyn Doig TBA I think Browyn needs to have a good look at how she's developing.
Again any idea what her role actually is?
Leadership Consultant-Gerard Murphy Fail The biggest problem we have at Richmond is leadership Gerald. :scream
Actually agree with you here. HE was bought in (he's from leading teams) and we seem to have gone backwards
Defenders Coach-Ben RuttenFail Besides maybe Rance, our defenders don't have a clue this year, just ask Astbury. :stupid
Again, it's his 2nd season & correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure in 2015 last season we had (based on all the stats) one of the best defences in the AFL. We are 2 games into season 2016 so to grade him fail is harsh and unrealistic
Senior Development Coach-Mark 'Choco' Williams Fail Excluding obvious improvement in Rance, Martin etc. I still see players going backwards when drafted to us.
Again harsh call...funny I'd say Menadue's improved, others as well but we don't discuss those because it defeats the purpose I suppose
Development Coach-Ryan Ferguson Fail Elton Struggled.
1st season full time in role.
Is Elton all you can come up with?
Development Coach-Andrew McQualter Fail See Elton Struggled
See above re Elton
VFL Football Operations Manager-Daniel Hull Fail If it's this guys job to get a decent VFL squad then it's a fail.
good blame the bloke who has nothing to do with picking the players that go on the list but carry on. His role is mainly admin of the VFL side
Property and Facility Manager-Giuseppe Mamone Awesome (Sounds like he's Made) Well done Guiseppe. Great job!
best in the business is Seppe ;D
:lol Ok WP, maybe I am off the mark with some of the fine working girls at the RFC but I stand by some of what I've graded. ;)
What I'd like to see is a real expert like yourself, try grading the motley crew that is our football department. Are you up for it? :thumbsup
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But by the same token, if we sacked every one of these Pusti Malakas tomorrow,
We wouldn't be any worse off.
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great flood would come in handy
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What I'd like to see is a real expert like yourself, try grading the motley crew that is our football department. Are you up for it? :thumbsup
Not an expert, just view certain roles differently because of having said roles explained to me
But happy to grade those who deserve to be graded for our on filed deeds. Will do it when I have some more time, which isn't tonight
But I refuse to pot people who have no direct impact on the on field results
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On a basic level I think the issue we have at the moment is our A graders performances have plateaued and our 2nd tier players haven't lifted their level enough to fill the gap. As a result we have become a team bereft of star power and if we dont perform at a peak level across the board any team in the competition will give us trouble. Other top sides do have this star power and it might just win you that 3 or 4 close games which make the difference between a top 4 side and a team battling to make the 8.
This season especially I keep hearing new names of players from other sides who weren't especially high draft picks but are suddenly performing at a higher level. We dont seem to have that same continual development so in our current situation we really dont have much left in the bank.
I wonder if thats a result of the compromised drafts we used to reconstruct our team and basically the mid tier players have risen to their natural talent level and no further. Like TV we took at pick 10 but really he was a pick 20+ odd. Conca similarly.
We're no Geelong picking Paul Chapmans at 35 for sure.
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2nd tier; yarren, Maric, Edwards out with injury
Hard to lift from te grandstand. I don't think the a graders have been too bad
It's the 5th tier that makes struggling
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On a basic level I think the issue we have at the moment is our A graders performances have plateaued and our 2nd tier players haven't lifted their level enough to fill the gap. As a result we have become a team bereft of star power and if we dont perform at a peak level across the board any team in the competition will give us trouble. Other top sides do have this star power and it might just win you that 3 or 4 close games which make the difference between a top 4 side and a team battling to make the 8.
This season especially I keep hearing new names of players from other sides who weren't especially high draft picks but are suddenly performing at a higher level. We dont seem to have that same continual development so in our current situation we really dont have much left in the bank.
I wonder if thats a result of the compromised drafts we used to reconstruct our team and basically the mid tier players have risen to their natural talent level and no further. Like TV we took at pick 10 but really he was a pick 20+ odd. Conca similarly.
We're no Geelong picking Paul Chapmans at 35 for sure.
TV was before the concessions
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What I'd like to see is a real expert like yourself, try grading the motley crew that is our football department. Are you up for it? :thumbsup
Not an expert, just view certain roles differently because of having said roles explained to me
But happy to grade those who deserve to be graded for our on filed deeds. Will do it when I have some more time, which isn't tonight
But I refuse to pot people who have no direct impact on the on field results
When are you going to grade the footy department WP?