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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: letsgetiton! on May 07, 2007, 08:02:45 AM
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NOW dont get all peed off but deledio does not have what it takes to be a true afl star and is actually not that good.
i dont care how fast he can run and how many torps he can kick, deledio is softer than tivendale and has no idea how to use the one skill he has ..pace.
cameron ling is not quick and he showed us why deledio is teh most overrated kid in afl and has no balls.
dekedio is just a receiver, and a bad one cos any good receiver uses his pace to break lines.
deledio is a fraud and he came to us with a masive reputation which was protected by terry by playing him in easy roles.
we must trade deledio , ppl who say he should be captain , what a load of crap, he is no leader , he is just a gay show pony who has no desire to get his hands dirty.
if terry had any balls , deledio should be dropped asap.
deledio has been nothing but a joke in the past 12 months
if deledio had 5% the desire that foleyu has, then maybe he could become a player.
foley and tambling are our midfield future, deledio should be used to trade for judd!
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I have faith in the kid but you have to ask why any club would pick a half back flanker as a No 1 National Draft Pick.
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i dont have faith in him, he has gone backwards in 2 yrs not fwd.
the question should never have been why tambling over buddy
it should have been why not buddy over deledio
we should trade deledio to wce, and tray and get judd , either as a trade on teh the draft as we will finish last.
i said maybe give foley the captaincy in another thread
i say lets get judd here , make him captain asap b4 the pies do!
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.....you have to ask why any club would pick a half back flanker as a No 1 National Draft Pick.
great question, why did we waste our 1st draft pick on breet "bannick" deledio on an outside hbf and not a kpp. its about time we all got realistic and ask why did we let buddy go through! we desparately need tall matchwinners. and buddy can play as an outside runner too and has more to his bow than deledio
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Dont forget Hawthorn picked Roughhead before Franklin
Roughhead is a good pick the boy can play football & no doubt we all gunna see that in the next couple of seasons
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Dont forget Hawthorn picked Roughhead before Franklin
Roughhead is a good pick the boy can play football & no doubt we all gunna see that in the next couple of seasons
i remember you telling me yrs ago monk, that roughy will be a star KPP and polo a star tough inside onballer
u were on the money
deledio will just be a bannik
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I still have faith too as it's harder to play with natural flair in a crap side but Lids major weakness at the moment is his lack of defensive pressure. If he doesn't work and improve on this then yes he will only become a flanker or wingman. Just 7 tackles from 6 games in an ordinary effort.
Mind you the following tackling stats for those who have played every game so far this year says alot about the team's lack of defensive pressure.
Foley 27
Tuck 23
Newman 21
Tambo 20
Hyde 20
McGuane 17
Sugar 14
Raines 12
Polak 10
Pettifer 8
Joel 8
Lids 7
Schulz 6
Richo 2
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those stats show lids that tuck, hyde, foley and blingers work a hell of a lot harder than him.
lids has currency , lets trade him and make a profit
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lids has currency , lets trade him and make a profit
You are kidding, aren't you X?
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NO deadly serious
deledio is a fraud, he has laid only 6 or 7 tackles this yr,
soft
for a kid who is meant to be faster than judd he sure does not liek to get his hands dirty and do teh team thing , chase and tackle hard
i questioned his work rate 2 yrs ago and again last yr, and everyone laughed at me and said i was crazy
the kid plays scared, he always will, he is a downhill skiir and we dont need players like him.
trade him while other think he still has something.
we want workman, warriors not fleet footed fairies
ling is no speed stuff, but he outran, outmuscled and out smarted this kyabram tool. lids was too scared to a/ play man on man on him, and b/ use his pace to beat him
wells showed his class last week by flogging ling with his classs and pace
deledio is a protected fraud
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Look X, your logic is completely off the rails.
In one breath your calling Deledio a fraud.
And in the other your telling us he should be traded for Chris Judd from the West Coast Eagles.
If Deledio is such a fraud then the above deal has utterly no chance of ever being contemplated by the necessary parties let alone administered.
The fact that you could even position Deledio as a player of comparitable magnitude in a trading circumstance judd defies logic. What does that make Judd? Aaron Fiora?
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lids is not physically or mentally tough enough to play this game
maybe i am th eonly one who can see it , maybe i see him as a fraud and imo he is, he has shown no improvement.
other teams still think he has teh goods, well lets make profit out of him and get either a top line player or draft picks
stop using ur heart and use ur head, he cant tackle, he dosnt chase he is not a team player but a downhill skier
they club wont have teh balls to trade him and thats our problem we hold on to players believing they have potential
well hello
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Let's trade 'em all :help
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As John Elliot would say..."Pigs Ar$e!!" Deledio has plenty of courage and a rising star award in his first season to prove it. The team as a whole is well off the pace at the moment.
If we traded him, he would be a star at any other club. Look at Rodan for cliff's sake. The problem is not Deledio, its remnants of the Frawley era still festering in our Tiger bellies and last night was an exorcism of epic proportions or at least the cheese squeeze of the century cleansing our souls of the green potato going to seed that was one Danny Frawley.
Now we can wipe the sweat of our brow, pull the stick out of our mouth, release the restraints and look forward to watching some of our young guns have a crack without worrying about the scoreboard. :thumbsup :thumbsup
I have exorcised the demons :chuck.....This footbal club is clear.
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deledio is not a star
and if he keeps playing as he does he never will be
i hope he does become the best , but i doubt he will , why
he is scared, he playes scared, 9/10 when he can take players on he dosnt, judd never hesitates, lids does. soft.
when he starts believing in himself and back himsel;f, he may then start becoming a good player, but he lacks toughness and faith in himself.
he is too used to getting things easy and being everyones pet.
eg/ he never deserved to win the preseason points scoring thing, that was foley and terry gave it to lids cos a/ he is his pet, and b, it would be embarrassing to all if an ex rookie beat a blue chip no1 draft pick!
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As John Elliot would say..."Pigs Ar$e!!" Deledio has plenty of courage and a rising star award in his first season to prove it. The team as a whole is well off the pace at the moment.
If we traded him, he would be a star at any other club. Look at Rodan for cliff's sake. The problem is not Deledio, its remnants of the Frawley era still festering in our Tiger bellies and last night was an exorcism of epic proportions or at least the cheese squeeze of the century cleansing our souls of the green potato going to seed that was one Danny Frawley.
Now we can wipe the sweat of our brow, pull the stick out of our mouth, release the restraints and look forward to watching some of our young guns have a crack without worrying about the scoreboard. :thumbsup :thumbsup
I have exorcised the demons :chuck.....This footbal club is clear.
Yep. Love the analogy.
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IF NORTHEY and hart were sttill at our club there us no way we would have recruited the way we did. deledio would be elsewhere and big boys like buddy and roughhead would have been tigers
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What a crock :sleep
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Northey used first round picks on guys like Justin Murphy and Damian Ryan
Real monsters...
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Who the hell do you think you are un X cited , who gives you the right to character assasinate lids like you have . You obviously don't know him or you would not be saying these shameful things. You are the disgrace and are a coward have the guts to front up or shut the hell up !!!! Our family knows him and nothing you have said is near the truth, what a waste of space you are and you call yourself a tigers supporter HA!!
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Who the hell do you think you are un X cited , who gives you the right to character assasinate lids like you have . You obviously don't know him or you would not be saying these shameful things. You are the disgrace and are a coward have the guts to front up or shut the hell up !!!! Our family knows him and nothing you have said is near the truth, what a waste of space you are and you call yourself a tigers supporter HA!!
i dont give a rats clacker if you know the scared fairy
ok pass on a message and if u want pm me and i will give you my details and i will talk to the fairy floss face to face,
watch him play, he plays as soft as butter and we all thought tiv was soft. u r biased cos you know him.
ask him this for me, ask him to try and lay 7 tackles this week, so he can double his amazing tough yearly stat of 6!!!
Geez , u know him and think he isnt , wow, u r the one who is deluded.
tell him to start playing hard footy and to prove me wrong, i will be glad to eat humble pie, but i have yet to see him play a tough game.
at least tambling is showing improvement and laying tackles, doing it tough.
dont come on here and in ur very 1st post , blast me and tel me im wrong just because u r deledios boyfriend.
u say he is a tough player, Geez , is thats why i saw ling cacking himself on sunday.
tell him if he is going to keep playing this soft to give it up and u 2 can have picnics in teh park every w/e!
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now you think im a coward, you have no idea
want me to front up, time and place, i have no worries about that
what gives me the right, the fact that i am a full pledged member and supporter
what do i wanna see, deledio live up to this bs potential that he has,
he is to scared to take the game on, whats his problem, you know him so well, tell me!!!
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well well , didn't that get a reaction I am amazed at your football Knowledge especially how important you think tackling is , why wouldn't you take a decent look at lids' stats and compare them against other young layers who are being tagged each and every week and then talk to me rationally. One other thing don't ask to meet me it could be the biggest mistake you make for a while, and how much footy did you play or aren't you game to tell me.
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Welcome Control to out-of-control OER at the moment! lol
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unexcited you call yourself a tiger supporter HA!! you can't be a supporter and speak the way you do about the players . I don't care how you justify it you CANNOT be a true supporter CANNOT!
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what do i wanna see, deledio live up to this bs potential that he has,
If that statement was true X, if you really wanna see Deledio live up to his true potential, then I would suggest that you stop branding him with tags such as:
*gay showpony
*overrated
*a joke
*fraud
*downhill skier
*fairy
*soft
and that is in this thread only.
X, you know I've supported you in the past but you are totally out of line in this thread, you of all people should know, I thought you were a personal trainer, you should know that highlighting negative aspects as a motivational tool is a method that has been discredited for decades!
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well well , didn't that get a reaction I am amazed at your football Knowledge especially how important you think tackling is , why wouldn't you take a decent look at lids' stats and compare them against other young layers who are being tagged each and every week and then talk to me rationally. One other thing don't ask to meet me it could be the biggest mistake you make for a while, and how much footy did you play or aren't you game to tell me.
i have played enough footy, dont you worry about thta,
no i havent played at afl level , 3 knee recos didnt help, but thats not what this thread is about.
anyway u are now making excuses for your boyfriend
and u still have not pm'd me
i am more than happy to discuss this with you and him face to face, and dont worry i will come alone!!!
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unexcited you call yourself a tiger supporter HA!! you can't be a supporter and speak the way you do about the players . I don't care how you justify it you CANNOT be a true supporter CANNOT!
u have no idea
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what do i wanna see, deledio live up to this bs potential that he has,
If that statement was true X, if you really wanna see Deledio live up to his true potential, then I would suggest that you stop branding him with tags such as:
*gay showpony
*overrated
*a joke
*fraud
*downhill skier
*fairy
*soft
and that is in this thread only.
X, you know I've supported you in the past but you are totally out of line in this thread, you of all people should know, I thought you were a personal trainer, you should know that highlighting negative aspects as a motivational tool is a method that has been discredited for decades!
DC, thats fine, i am not asking for anyones suport. i have my thoughts and made observations on where lids is stuffing up. they are my thoughts and only one person can change my point of you, and thats not his bf, mum, sister or granny
the only person who can change how i rate lids and what i think of lids, is lids himself.
when he starts playing like footy player and using his assets offensively and defensively i will start to respect him. lids's idol was judd, well why does he play with 1/4 of teh intensity that judd has
we are all entitled to our opinions, and right now lids sux
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we are all entitled to our opinions, and right now lids sux
Thanks for the opportunity to voice my opinion, I think you're theories on Lids suck lol
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As John Elliot would say..."Pigs Ar$e!!" Deledio has plenty of courage and a rising star award in his first season to prove it. The team as a whole is well off the pace at the moment.
If we traded him, he would be a star at any other club. Look at Rodan for cliff's sake. The problem is not Deledio, its remnants of the Frawley era still festering in our Tiger bellies and last night was an exorcism of epic proportions or at least the cheese squeeze of the century cleansing our souls of the green potato going to seed that was one Danny Frawley.
Now we can wipe the sweat of our brow, pull the stick out of our mouth, release the restraints and look forward to watching some of our young guns have a crack without worrying about the scoreboard. :thumbsup :thumbsup
I have exorcised the demons :chuck.....This footbal club is clear.
Well said tiga :clapping
LOL @ Linda Blair acting the part of Spud ;D
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we are all entitled to our opinions, and right now lids sux
Thanks for the opportunity to voice my opinion, I think you're theories on Lids suck lol
Welcome Control to out-of-control OER at the moment! lol
More like KAOS here, emotions running very high...and I agree with Moi, how can you pick Lids out of that excuse for a game X, they were all pretty woeful
*sigh* Jack you were so right lol ;)
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As John Elliot would say..."Pigs Ar$e!!" Deledio has plenty of courage and a rising star award in his first season to prove it. The team as a whole is well off the pace at the moment.
If we traded him, he would be a star at any other club. Look at Rodan for cliff's sake. The problem is not Deledio, its remnants of the Frawley era still festering in our Tiger bellies and last night was an exorcism of epic proportions or at least the cheese squeeze of the century cleansing our souls of the green potato going to seed that was one Danny Frawley.
Now we can wipe the sweat of our brow, pull the stick out of our mouth, release the restraints and look forward to watching some of our young guns have a crack without worrying about the scoreboard. :thumbsup :thumbsup
I have exorcised the demons :chuck.....This footbal club is clear.
Well said tiga :clapping
LOL @ Linda Blair acting the part of Spud ;D
Thats a brilliant piece of writing Tiga! :thumbsup
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Can't you just imagine the moaning and knives for Wallace and MIller that would come out if we traded him and he starred at another club ::)
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The amusing thing is even if we had drafted Franklin the result on the weekend wouldn't have been any different. He doesn't play midfield and would have frozen to death up forward as we couldn't win the ball and when we did we were continually under pressure and coughed it up.
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Welcome Control to out-of-control OER at the moment! lol
Yes welcome Control - things are well sort of outta control.
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we are all entitled to our opinions, and right now lids sux
Thanks for the opportunity to voice my opinion, I think you're theories on Lids suck lol
thats fine, i wont still sleep 2nite
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we are all entitled to our opinions, and right now lids sux
Thanks for the opportunity to voice my opinion, I think you're theories on Lids suck lol
Welcome Control to out-of-control OER at the moment! lol
More like KAOS here, emotions running very high...and I agree with Moi, how can you pick Lids out of that excuse for a game X, they were all pretty woeful
*sigh* Jack you were so right lol ;)
i have 2JD, lids has been mediocre for the last 12 months, his work rate at training maybe hugh, but onfield he is lazy and plays scared. he finds it hard to break a tackle, lay a tackle , and is is too scared to take the game on. atm, tambling is way ahead of him and in a yrs time will be miles ahead. atm foley and blingers are streaking ahead of him, not because they have more class, but because they dont play scared and are doing the hard stuff.
deledio has never had to earn or work for his spot, he has had a free ride cos of his reputation. thats been a massive problem at tigerland for yrs, its about time lids had to earn a spot
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IF NORTHEY and hart were sttill at our club there us no way we would have recruited the way we did. deledio would be elsewhere and big boys like buddy and roughhead would have been tigers
And it would not made one bit of difference on Sunday.
As John Elliot would say..."Pigs Ar$e!!" Deledio has plenty of courage and a rising star award in his first season to prove it. The team as a whole is well off the pace at the moment.
If we traded him, he would be a star at any other club. Look at Rodan for cliff's sake. The problem is not Deledio, its remnants of the Frawley era still festering in our Tiger bellies and last night was an exorcism of epic proportions or at least the cheese squeeze of the century cleansing our souls of the green potato going to seed that was one Danny Frawley.
Now we can wipe the sweat of our brow, pull the stick out of our mouth, release the restraints and look forward to watching some of our young guns have a crack without worrying about the scoreboard. :thumbsup :thumbsup
I have exorcised the demons :chuck.....This footbal club is clear.
:clapping :clapping onya tiga :thumbsup
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LOL @ Linda Blair acting the part of Spud ;D
I can quote a line from that movie and would be appropriate for Spud.
Fother Mucker
or something like that :rollin
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mr x how can you denigrate lids and players of this club the way that you do and have any thought that you are helping the tigers cause, personal trainers my eye , you can't have the sort of negative venomous thoughts running around in your head and still be a worthwhile positive personal trainer it just match up! I like the one about the old 3 knee constructions didn't help one bit(read I could have made it to AFL but for those damn knees). Lids needs to improve in areas of his game who doesn't , you speak like him and others aren't trying to improve themselves, if you think that then you obviously know absolutely nothing about the makeup of AFL footballers, but then again how could you. Look at lids' stats compare them against other s in afl 2 years who have been tagged all of last year and this and then see if you draw the same uneducated conclusions.
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Lids needs to improve in areas of his game who doesn't ,
Agree with your comments about improvements control - I've said a number of times that the one area I reckon he needs to work on is the defensive side of his game as most young players do.
Coping with being tagged is another one and with that I would think Lids would of learnt a bloody good lesson on Sunday - Ding Ding Ling is a bloody good tagger (unfortuantely) and obviously IMHO the Geeeeelong coaches decided to tag kid heavily and as the game went on the confidence level plummeted
Lids played a bad game like everyone else did so if people are gong to advocate trading Deledio then as I said early might as well trade 'em all
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And that has been Lids main problem this year and last. He is now so heavily tagged, the poor guy can barely breathe. And then he is up against someone far more experienced than him. Give the kid a break.
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The amusing thing is even if we had drafted Franklin the result on the weekend wouldn't have been any different. He doesn't play midfield and would have frozen to death up forward
Spot on MT. Not to mention the head clash he'd cop from Richardson most weeks. ;)
90% of our problems stem from the midfield.
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Lids' career stats to date:
Year MT K H D Avg M Avg HO Avg T Avg FF FA G Avg B SC Rat Avg
2007 6 49 60 109 18.2 20 3.3 1 0.2 7 1.2 9 4 1 0.2 0 6 359 59.8
2006 21 241 154 395 18.8 137 6.5 5 0.2 35 1.7 12 5 5 0.2 12 42 1626 77.4
2005 22 186 150 336 15.3 86 3.9 7 0.3 37 1.7 15 10 14 0.6 10 94 1350 61.4
Total 49 476 364 840 17.1 243 5 13 0.3 79 1.6 36 19 20 0.4 22 142 3335 68.1
2007 stats:
Rnd Versus K H D M HO T FF FA G B SC Rat
R6 Geelong 1 5 6 1 0 1 2 1 0 0 0 19
R5 West Coast 7 12 19 3 0 3 2 2 1 0 6 68
R4 W.Bulldogs 12 11 23 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 71
R3 Collingwood 12 11 23 5 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 84
R2 Sydney 9 12 21 3 0 1 2 1 0 0 0 63
R1 Carlton 8 9 17 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 54
http://www.finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1529
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no ... don't trade deledio ...
trade moore, hall, tivendale, hyde !
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trade moore, hall, tivendale, hyde !
For what?
A couple of used mouthguards and broken water bottles.
They have no currency, it's like comparing US dollars to Zimbabwean dollars.
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mr x how can you denigrate lids and players of this club the way that you do and have any thought that you are helping the tigers cause, personal trainers my eye , you can't have the sort of negative venomous thoughts running around in your head and still be a worthwhile positive personal trainer it just match up! I like the one about the old 3 knee constructions didn't help one bit(read I could have made it to AFL but for those damn knees). Lids needs to improve in areas of his game who doesn't , you speak like him and others aren't trying to improve themselves, if you think that then you obviously know absolutely nothing about the makeup of AFL footballers, but then again how could you. Look at lids' stats compare them against other s in afl 2 years who have been tagged all of last year and this and then see if you draw the same uneducated conclusions.
how can i denigrate the players, hello did u see the game last week, did u see how weak were were 4 times last yr. thats how
lids plays lazy and weak, the truth does hurt, he need a slap of reality hit him in teh face, at least if he canjt get the ball like on sunday, why teh hell not use his pace to tackel and put defemsive presure on.
stop talking poo control
u may be lids lil friend well stop pumping his tyres, tell him the truth so he may improve his game!!!! he has had a free ride til now, about time he worked for his spot.
if tiv, krak, etc played as poorly as he has the tigerfaithful would be out with their pitch forks, what makes this worse is that lids is perceived to jhave skill and class and a no1 pick, well he better start producing cos he is playing like a no 100 pick atm
by the way control, u still have not pm'd me?????
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xyz you don't get it do you , your type of analysis of players does not help them or the club ,again it doesn't matter how you justify it. The way you are carrying on tells me more about you than any argument/slanderouscomment you toss forward. I am not Lids little friend, I don't think any of my mates would call me little and that IS the truth.
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trade moore, hall, tivendale, hyde !
For what?
A couple of used mouthguards and broken water bottles.
They have no currency, it's like comparing US dollars to Zimbabwean dollars.
hehe
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I have one question.
WHO LET X OUT OF HIS STRAIGHTJACKET :help
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BUMP
I think we'll keep him :thumbsup
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no ... don't trade deledio ...
trade moore, hall, tivendale, hyde !
ummm trade, delist, what ever ... just get them off the f***ing list ... add P.Bowden to that list ...
Trade Deledio ??? ... ummm no ... never will !!! ... Deledio will always be a Richmond Player ...
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Here, here.
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BUMP
I think we'll keep him :thumbsup
u r a smart @rse bluey lol, but ur ok!
deledio mkI trade
but we are seeing deledio MKII, and he must stay and is looking the goods to be next captain
hey if robert walls can change his mind every week, why cant i lol
as the say, footy is a funny game
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BUMP
I think we'll keep him :thumbsup
u r a smart @rse bluey lol, but ur ok!
deledio mkI trade
but we are seeing deledio MKII, and he must stay and is looking the goods to be next captain
hey if robert walls can change his mind every week, why cant i lol
as the say, footy is a funny game
cheers X ;) :cheers
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the running goal late in the game to finish it...tuck got one later, but deledios goal was the end for me. he kicked a big goal in a big game when the side needed him to kick it. Class finish from a kid who should be the next leader. It was a leaders goal. A captains goal.
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the running goal late in the game to finish it...tuck got one later, but deledios goal was the end for me. he kicked a big goal in a big game when the side needed him to kick it. Class finish from a kid who should be the next leader. It was a leaders goal. A captains goal.
started the night a bit sluggishly IMHO, and I thought looks like its going to be a quiet night for Lids, to my suprise he really turned it on the 2nd half and was pure class
but the captaincy has to go to Foley IMO
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who started this thread Robert Walls ;D
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who started this thread Robert Walls ;D
8)
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BUMP
I think we'll keep him :thumbsup
u r a smart @rse bluey lol, but ur ok!
deledio mkI trade
but we are seeing deledio MKII, and he must stay and is looking the goods to be next captain
hey if robert walls can change his mind every week, why cant i lol
as the say, footy is a funny game
Sounds like a couple of girls to me! :whistle
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NEK stuffing MINNIT
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Crikey how did you find this thread hidden in Terry towels and possum poo?
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Crikey how did you find this thread hidden in Terry towels and possum poo?
because deledio is a king
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Mods pls boot the troll out