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Title: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 06, 2022, 07:05:13 PM
AFL Round 14

RICHMOND vs Carlton


Thursday, 16th June @ the M.C.G.

Start time: 7:20 pm


Broadcast:  Seven, Fox Footy, Kayo.

https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/3921

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Round 14 dedicated to the Alannah & Madeline Foundation.

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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1144356/round-14-dedicated-to-the-alannah-madeline-foundation
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 10, 2022, 10:50:11 PM
Cerra was subbed out tonight with a tight hammy. So in doubt for next week.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 10, 2022, 11:38:29 PM
If we play how we played against Port we will get smashed
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: cub on June 11, 2022, 03:00:56 AM
Big test of exactly where we are at next couple,
Didn't go Port myself stupid time AFL is a disgrace
Il be at Blues though a 12 hr day thursday go to footy get home midnight - asleep by 1 hopefully and gotta be back at work at 06:30 so up 5 AM
It's just ludicrous and another of the reasons footy is dying  :scream
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on June 11, 2022, 10:41:04 AM
Blues were very clean against Ess last night. We will have to be at our best to beat them. Their midfield is firing and unfortunately we will probably get smashed in the clearances again. It will depend on the team selections and outs but at this stage Im tipping Carlton sadly. :(
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 11, 2022, 11:03:17 AM
We lost it in the middle last time but we kicked enough goals and our backline blanketed them quite well.

I'm tipping Carlton too but if I was them I wouldn't be too confident.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Tiger Khosh on June 11, 2022, 12:20:12 PM
Their defence is short handed as. Who mans Lynch with no weitering and then who is jack left with? Their midfield only got on top once Prestia went off injured - he was dominating before this.

Quietly confident.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Damo on June 11, 2022, 12:32:28 PM
We will win
And no Cerra is handy
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: JP Tiger on June 11, 2022, 01:52:31 PM
If we bring our pressure with some typical hard nosed grunt we can smash them!   Carlton are very pretty with lots of lairy skills, Ess were absolutely awful last night but in the end they only went down by 4 goals.  If we get a sniff we will rip them up!     :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Rampsation on June 11, 2022, 02:32:27 PM
Richmond by 15 points. Quietly confident.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Damo on June 11, 2022, 03:25:57 PM
Richmond by 15 points. Quietly confident.

Be loudly confident Ramps
We will win
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Rampsation on June 11, 2022, 05:52:37 PM
You know ... Im probably wrong but Ive just got a 2017 feeling about this season.  :pray
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Damo on June 11, 2022, 06:51:22 PM
You know ... Im probably wrong but Ive just got a 2017 feeling about this season.  :pray

I’m usually pretty negative about our chances compared to most .. but I think we are a real sneaky chance as well .. outside of Melbourne’s best form (which isn’t close currently), I think it will be a very even top 8

We’re a genuine chance
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 12, 2022, 04:33:40 AM
Michael Voss confirmed there was little chance of Cerra featuring against the Tigers in six days’ time.

“Oh yeah, he’s highly unlikely, absolutely,” Voss stated.

“So we’ll get a test, I think tomorrow or Monday might be the day we can get it fully assessed, obviously playing the Friday night game, that puts us back behind, but I would have thought he’s unlikely for the game (next) week, that’s for sure.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/11/blues-provide-update-on-cerra-reveal-why-dow-missed-out-following-win-over/
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 14, 2022, 06:00:23 PM
Conditions are primed for Tom Lynch, with Carlton backline general Jacob Weitering sidelined with a shoulder injury.

"He's one of the best defenders in the AFL so it's a bit of a loss for them," Lynch said.

"But as you saw on the weekend (against Essendon), it didn't matter too much."

Carlton stunned Richmond in round one and has kicked on since then.

Lynch was keen to embrace the underdog tag.

"I'll be looking forward to it (being the underdog) to be honest. I think we've been underdogs for most of the year in most games," he said.

"Carlton obviously are a really good team and they gave us a touch-up earlier in the year in round one and we're looking forward to playing them again.

"But they're obviously flying at the moment so it's going to take a big effort from us.

"Playing a team a second time you learn a fair bit. We feel like we're playing much better footy than round one.

"But I think Carlton, as good as they were round one, they were exceptional that night, they've gone to another level and improved throughout the season."

Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/780160/update-dusty-touch-and-go-star-forward-likely-to-return)
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 14, 2022, 06:02:07 PM
JUST a week after his long-awaited AFL return, unlucky Carlton defender Caleb Marchbank is expected to be sidelined for another two months after suffering yet another knee injury.

His return had initially aided a heavily depleted Carlton backline group that is also without Jacob Weitering (shoulder), Oscar McDonald (back), Mitch McGovern (hamstring) and Luke Parks (foot) to long-term injuries.

The Blues will also be without gun midfielder Adam Cerra for the next fortnight after scans confirmed a low-grade hamstring injury, but veteran Ed Curnow is closing on a return from a long-term calf problem.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/780302/luckless-blue-set-for-another-stint-on-the-sidelines
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 15, 2022, 07:19:22 AM
Brownlow Medallist Gerard Healy is backing the Tigers to overcome Carlton at the MCG on Thursday night.

“I said on Friday night that I’d be tipping the Tigers,” Healy said.

“I think the Blues are too injured in the defensive area.

“If (Tom) Lynch is in, I just think they’re too good around the ball. They’re also fantastic at the intercept and they’re really quick.

“I think they’ve got a shade more depth, the Tigers, and I’d be surprised if they don’t win.”

Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/14/all-australian-selector-heaps-praise-on-richmond-star/)
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 15, 2022, 07:32:24 AM
I’m amazed we are still favourites. Port proved our ruck advantage can be exploited on 2 levels - oppo mids sharking our tap outs and on the ground by the second ruck.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: lamington on June 15, 2022, 10:21:48 AM
If it hasn’t been said already…. 8 POINT GAME!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 15, 2022, 10:58:18 AM
Tipping Blues.

They have bad outs but unless Lynch comes out and kicks 6 I don't see how our midfield can match it even without Cerra, Weitering etc.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: pmac21 on June 15, 2022, 11:47:06 AM
I see Sam Durdin will debut for them. Will probably come out and keep Tom goalless knowing us. 

We will beat Carlton.  Convincingly. 
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 15, 2022, 03:34:23 PM
Carlton’s mid-season draftee Sam Durdin will make his debut after luckless defender Caleb Marchbank went down with a knee injury to add to a long list.

But it’s not enough to sway Hardwick into thinking his team will have an easier night.

“They are (undermanned) but they have been for a couple of weeks and done a stellar job,” he said.

“Their system is really strong. Once again, if we feel we get enough supply, we’ll kick a winning score.”

Revenge isn’t any sort of theme for the Tigers, who had an 11-match winning streak against Carlton ended in the opening round.

But Hardwick is well aware of the improvements necessary to beat the Blues who have stormed into the top four.

“Last time we played them we were disappointing in the contested ball and they beat us handsomely, so we just have to make sure we match them in that,” he said

“We went down minus-15 in the clearances in the last quarter and gave away eight 50m penalties, so that’s a start.”

But Hardwick expected the match could be a “dour” affair.

“These months are really hard, it’s a bit dour, it’s cold, the grounds are a bit dewy, so it’s hard to score,” he said.

“Sometimes the games are a little bit closer than that should be.

“Our level of consistency and our KPIs would indicate we are playing a better brand of football. But sides go up and down, you have to ride the bumps and hopefully scrape a few wins along the way and ride it out.

“We, like most sides, are hanging in there and we just have to win more games than we lose.”

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-dustin-martin-wont-play-in-mcg-blockbuster-against-carlton/news-story/339aa6b2cd036e6ce89f1c65f21689a5
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2022, 06:09:40 AM
Richmond v Carlton Preview

Lachlan Geleit
SEN
16 June 2022


A mouth-watering clash awaits footy fans as rivals and finals hopefuls Richmond and Carlton do battle on the MCG.

Looking back to their last meeting which came in Round 1, the Blues were able to run over the top of a Tigers side that had their chances to assert their dominance earlier in the game.

With a see-sawing contest to go off just a few months ago, you’d expect this clash to also be a tight affair.

In that fixture, Richmond talls Jack Riewoldt and Tom Lynch were kept to just three goals combined, but none of the Carlton tall defenders that they faced in Jacob Weitering, Oscar McDonald and Mitch McGovern will be there this time around.

While the Blues sit fourth with a 9-3 record and Richmond outside the eight at 7-5, it’s the Tigers who enter as slight favourites on the back of their Round 13 win over Port Adelaide.

Although Carlton would expect to get the upper hand on-ball, the aerial discrepancy could be what decides this clash, particularly in Richmond’s forward 50.

For the Blues to get the job done, they’ll need Harry McKay and Charlie Curnow to at the very least equal the impact of Riewoldt and Lynch, and that looms a tough task with a weakened Carlton defence set to be their direct match-ups.

It’ll be a close one, but this could be the week that Carlton’s injury woes catch up with them.

Tip: Richmond by 10 points.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/15/who-will-win-and-why-the-predictions-and-tips-for-round-14/
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on June 16, 2022, 08:39:10 AM
I have changed my mind. Going with the Tigers with Carlton's backline outs. Still think the will beat us in the middle so it probably will be very close.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: torch on June 16, 2022, 01:36:18 PM
It will be wet ... 6 hours from match time, it sure is raining steadily.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2022, 01:41:30 PM
Ross Lyon and Matthew Lloyd's preview of Richmond vs Carlton:

Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1537055243720065024
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2022, 01:43:28 PM
THE FOUR CERTAINTIES FOR RICHMOND VERSUS CARLTON

Alex Zaia & Andrew Slevison
SEN
16 June 2022


Labelling something a ‘certainty’ in any sport is fraught with danger.

But we’ll attempt to find some anyway.

Here is what we consider certainties for Friday night’s clash between Richmond and Carlton:

Lynch and Riewoldt to kick multiple goals

The Richmond forwards will be licking their lips coming up against a depleted Carlton defence.

Tom Lynch’s return from a hamstring injury is bad news for the Blues and their makeshift backline.

The Tigers spearhead has kicked 31 goals in 10 games and remains in Coleman Medal contention despite missing two matches.

Jack Riewoldt has booted 22 goals at an average of just over two per game so far in 2022.

The three-time Coleman Medallist has kicked at least one goal in every game he’s played this season.

Bolton to finish with 15+ disposals and a goal

Shai Bolton is having a terrific season as a dangerous forward who can play through the midfield.

In last week’s win over Port Adelaide, Bolton finished with a wayward 0.5, just the second time this season he’s gone goalless in a game.

The 23-year-old is averaging a tick over 18 disposals and just under two goals a game this season.

Bolton is a match-winner and looms as a massive threat to Carlton.

Docherty to have 20+ touches and 4+ rebound 50s

Sam Docherty is putting together some sort of season.

He is averaging a career-best 28.5 disposals highlighted by his equal season-high 33 in last weekend’s win over Essendon.

The former co-captain has hit the 25-disposal mark in 10 of his 12 appearances this season, so it’s fairly safe to assume he’ll pick up at least 20 on Thursday night.

Docherty has also been a key driver for Carlton in terms of rebounding out of defence.

He leads the club for rebound 50s, averaging five per game, so four seems a fair assessment.

Cripps and Hewett to combine for 10+ clearances

Skipper Patrick Cripps and off-season recruit George Hewett are Carlton’s best clearance players.

They both sit in the league’s top 10 for average clearances with Cripps averaging 7.5 and Hewett 7.1 per game.

Given that Richmond rank 17th in the league for overall clearances, these two can fill up around the stoppage on what promises to be a wet night.

Cripps and Hewett can combine for at least 10 clearances against the Tigers.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/16/the-four-certainties-for-richmond-versus-carlton/
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2022, 01:45:14 PM
BUCKLEY’S “KEY” BATTLE BETWEEN RICHMOND AND CARLTON ON THURSDAY NIGHT

By Seb Mottram
SEN
16 June 2022


Nathan Buckley is intrigued by what Richmond’s tall forward line could mean for Carlton when the two sides clash on Thursday night at the MCG.

Both clubs have lost just one of their last five games and are finding form at the right time of the year.

Key forward Tom Lynch returns for the Tigers, while mid-season draftee Sam Durdin will play his first game for the Blues in defence.

Lynch will be joined by fellow talls Jack Riewoldt (194cm) and Noah Balta (195cm), while ruckman Toby Nankervis (199cm) could also push forward.

“Richmond have got some of their strengths back, and they’re going to be missing a few as well, (but) they seem a little bit unbalanced,” Buckley told SEN’s Whateley.

“They’re very tall, there’s a few question marks I have with their side. What do they do with Balta, does he go back or forward? He’s probably their second ruck, but they’re quite tall and whether that’s an advantage or not I’m not sure.”

The former Collingwood coach outlined two main battles for the clubs on the field on Thursday night, the first being for clearance and contested ball, and therefore field position.

However, it was in Richmond’s forward line that Buckley suggested would be “key” to the result.

The Tigers are averaging 11.7 contested marks per game in 2022, similar numbers to Carlton’s 11.2.

But Damien Hardwick’s men have taken 14 and 15 contested grabs in their last two wins, while they also beat Carlton 8-4 in that stat in Round 1.

“The other main one is for Richmond, if they do get field position, they’re going to have some dominance in the air,” Buckley stated.

“They’ve got Lynch and Riewoldt, potentially Balta and these guys are up again Carlton light (missing key players through injury).

“I think Lewis Young has been brilliant, but he’s probably a third tall, a second or third tall defender.

“Durdin comes in, thrown to the wolves, and he’ll be given a challenge. And Lachie Plowman is probably going to have to play as a key defender at times as well.

“Those three key players, who I think for all intents and purposes are third tall defenders, are going to have to play as key defenders.

“So Lynch, Riewoldt and Balta potentially and Nankervis if he finds himself down there, can they have a dominance in the air?”

Buckley continued: “and they did have it, they’ve had it in their last month and they’ve been pretty much the dominant side in the air if you look at statistics, so that’s an area of opportunity for them.

“The irony is at ground ball; they’ve actually been sieved. They haven’t done that well at winning ground ball in their forward 50, but Carlton’s small defenders have been brilliant at being able to win it there.

“So the air versus ground battle in Richmond’s front half will be key, and if the Richmond forwards get on top, it’s going to be really hard for Carlton to do what it needs to do defensively, especially in rebounding out of its back 50.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/16/buckleys-key-battle-between-richmond-and-carlton-on-thursday-night/
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Rampsation on June 16, 2022, 03:12:13 PM
Richmond by 15 points. Itll be close but we should win ttonight
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2022, 06:18:24 PM
7news saying a crowd of just 52k expected tonight.

If it was a weekend game it would be 70k+.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2022, 06:47:01 PM
No late changes.

Maurice jnr is the sub.

Source: AFL website.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: mightytiges on June 16, 2022, 06:50:12 PM
7news saying a crowd of just 52k expected tonight.

If it was a weekend game it would be 70k+.
Wonder how much $$$ the club has lost/missed out on due to these midwinter school night Thursday nighters?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: mightytiges on June 16, 2022, 07:02:17 PM
Quote
Cripps and Hewett to combine for 10+ clearances
What we've got to limit tonight. If we can at least match them in the clearances then that will go a long way to us winning.

Our defenders also need to bring the ball to ground. I think it was on Fox Footy they said that if Curnow or McKay don't mark it then they mostly have little influence at ground level. Lynch is kind of the same for us but Jack is still handy at ground level.

Of course we've got to make the most of our opportunities up forward unlike last week (hello Bolton & Jack).

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: mightytiges on June 16, 2022, 07:54:39 PM
Doing ok so far in the clearances. Having Prestia makes a difference.

Very misty here BTW.

Defence holding up so far

Missing a small crumber/pressure forward. Only Bolton looks threatening once the ball hits the ground.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 07:55:51 PM
Lucky they missed a few. Thought we could have had another 1-2 myself.

Balta needs to keep his cool, really let's people get under his skin.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 08:04:39 PM
Is it bad that being up 38-4 just gives me anxiety because I'm still scared they'll blow it?

Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Rampsation on June 16, 2022, 08:13:33 PM
Well wr just copped 2 goals in 2 minutes
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 08:24:21 PM
Geez Geez Jack looks so finished. His ability to contest the ball is almost non-existent. Doesn't even bother to do more than jog when defending.

Very wasteful going forward the last 15min. Nothing to show for it despite great opportunities.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: pmac21 on June 16, 2022, 08:26:01 PM
Needed that one. 
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 16, 2022, 08:32:07 PM
My word the blues fans are stupid.
 It’s like they don’t have any idea on the rules absolutely going ape poo at every decision and non-decision. I was like far out we must be getting all the free kicks by the way these bozos are carrying on
Had a look and they were leading the free kicks 9 to 7   :help

They are so one eyed it’s ridiculous, although I heard crickets when McKay took the touched mark and kicked a goal although they called for a fifty even though every man and his dog could see it was touched except the umpire standing 5 metres away.  :banghead


I hope we smash them and show them how rubbish their club is again.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Rampsation on June 16, 2022, 08:32:55 PM
Im a bit disappointed in short. His disposal tonight has been ordinary going inside 50.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: FooffooValve on June 16, 2022, 08:34:36 PM
Im a bit disappointed in short. His disposal tonight has bern irdinary going inside 50.

Yeah, but I thought Clarke should have gone harder and committed to marking that obvious one. He pulled out cos he thought Lynch had it. The other one from half back was bad.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: crackertiger on June 16, 2022, 08:35:18 PM
I have to say that Tarrant worries me big time. When the game speeds up in the second half he will get exposed. It could be the difference in a tight game.

Honestly we should have played Miller instead.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 08:35:59 PM
Im a bit disappointed in short. His disposal tonight has been ordinary going inside 50.

Yes very wasteful. Needs to lift.

So does Jack. I'm getting sick of watching him carry on like a pork chop when he refuses to chase or go hard at all ball. Still going to kick smart goals here and there but gee he doesn't offer much elsewise.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: mightytiges on June 16, 2022, 08:46:43 PM
Wasteful going inside F50. Lacking that front and square crumbed.

Last 10 mins played some dumb footy. Blues were just knocking that on and we didn't wake up to it.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 08:55:30 PM
Bolton fmd

2 goal turnaround.

Stuffing drag him
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on June 16, 2022, 08:55:52 PM
Terrible from Bolton there
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Rampsation on June 16, 2022, 08:56:20 PM
If we lose Id drop Bolton hes a smart arse.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 08:57:09 PM
Brutal effort, kick it 10 rows back.

How is that not 50 to Cotch.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 08:59:09 PM
Grimes gets a 35 meter penalty lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 09:02:27 PM
Grimes gets a 35 meter penalty lol

Yeah gee I thought that was weak lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 09:04:36 PM
I feel like Lambert has been poor tonight. Very fumbly
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 09:05:31 PM
He looks cooked, no legs to break away, no penetration by foot, can’t chase.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 09:08:08 PM
They are starting to beat us at the contest and get a lot of overlap.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 09:11:02 PM
Bloody hell guys just kick it up the wing ffs
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 16, 2022, 09:13:42 PM
Our fifty entries are woeful.  :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 09:14:54 PM
Geez Picketts disposal and his decision making has been poor.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on June 16, 2022, 09:16:31 PM
Follow up that argy bargy with a good last quarter please
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 16, 2022, 09:16:44 PM
Grimes gets a 35 meter penalty lol

Yeah gee I thought that was weak lol
Right in front of me. It would be lucky to be 30 metre  :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: TigerLand on June 16, 2022, 09:17:55 PM
Can someone snot Silvagni.

Privledged absolutely soft gunt
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 09:17:56 PM
Looks like we'll be overrun in the last quarter again.

Blues getting in our heads a bit.

Score was 38-4 and we've been outscored by a factor of 2 since then.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: TigerLand on June 16, 2022, 09:19:07 PM
Our fwd line is Lynch and that's it. 1 v 4 about 3 times that qtr. We need a medium sized quick lead up fwd. We are 1 dimensional.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: FooffooValve on June 16, 2022, 09:19:33 PM
Prepared for the worst, hoping for a miracle.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 16, 2022, 09:19:46 PM
I hate loosing to this cheating scum! There’s nothing worse.

I hope they do me a favour and got on with it.

Our entries are a concern. We have forwards and crumbers but we either kick it straight to them or they seem to be clearing out of defence with ease.

It’s bloody frustrating. We can’t let them win this.

Please boys get up.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: mightytiges on June 16, 2022, 09:20:31 PM
Our fifty entries are woeful.  :banghead :banghead :banghead
x10000000000  :banghead

Kicking to Carlton defenders advantage   :banghead

Bolton's miss another lazy effort from last week :facepalm
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 09:26:19 PM
Bolton, you aren’t playing well enough to do that son.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 09:27:18 PM
Don't like seeing that cocky stuff from Bolton.

Has been dishing up straight dog crap for his last 7 quarters.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 09:29:51 PM
JACK WINS A HTB AND GOALS

Gonna be hard from here Bwoos
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 09:30:30 PM
Balta tweak the hammy again on that play???
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 09:33:28 PM
Tarrant is getting his pants pulled down tonight.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 09:34:46 PM
That was a soft free kick to Cripps, we were out.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 09:35:41 PM
Really disappointing from M.Rioli there. Wasn't anywhere near his man and has no excuse not to be. Complacent.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 09:38:18 PM
Edwards, Lambert and Jack (bar that one tackle) have been an absolute liability tonight. Losing almost every contest.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on June 16, 2022, 09:39:19 PM
You wouldn't stuffing read about it
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 09:40:03 PM
We are cooked… this is embarrassing. 27 points up 5 minutes ago, now 3 points…
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 09:42:03 PM
Got one against the flow.

Can still lose it from here.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 09:42:15 PM
TFFT, but still going to need a few more. This is a 9 minute shootout for the win.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 09:48:02 PM
Tarrant again, stuff me. Bloke can’t even half a contest.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Buddysucks on June 16, 2022, 09:52:32 PM
Lol, now Tarrant gives away the free
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 09:53:24 PM
Looks like I'm getting bonus points tonight haha
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Rampsation on June 16, 2022, 10:00:42 PM
Richmond by 15 points. Itll be close but we should win ttonight

What can I say  :snidegrin
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Simonator on June 16, 2022, 10:02:05 PM
Well we managed to hold the lead for once which is good. Solid win.. first quarter we had our finals like pressure. Baker had another great game, he embodies Richmond footy. Nank got smashed I thought.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: FooffooValve on June 16, 2022, 10:04:54 PM
Overall deserved the win, but we were fortunate with that touched call.

Some very ordinary efforts and decision-making tonight.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: mightytiges on June 16, 2022, 10:09:03 PM
Geez we are a thick footy team at times. Gifting soft goals through schoolboy brain fades. Allowing the ball to get out the back of aerial contests, not thumping the ball out of bounds, not thumping the ball on the goal line through for a point. Take the win but like last week we did our best to shoot ourselves in the foot  :banghead :facepalm
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: FooffooValve on June 16, 2022, 10:10:29 PM
Edwards, Lambert and Jack (bar that one tackle) have been an absolute liability tonight. Losing almost every contest.

Hard disagree on Lambert and Jack.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: camboon on June 16, 2022, 10:19:06 PM
A bit harsh but understand the  stress when it’s close against Carlton. Anyway all’s forgiven when we beat Carlton 🐯
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Knighter on June 16, 2022, 10:21:17 PM
Tarrant is getting his pants pulled down tonight.

He was woeful
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: pmac21 on June 16, 2022, 10:24:41 PM
Forward line is a concern.
76-51 inside 50s and still almost lose. 
Couldn't mark it tonight
Should have been 8 goals up at half time I thought.
The moment we get 4-5 goals up we seem to immediately stop what we've been doing for 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: georgies31 on June 16, 2022, 10:27:51 PM
MJR gave us the spark we needed tackling and harassment.
Balta forward is not making us a better side it's been proven this season.
Edwards is not playing his part legend or no legend can't gift games.
Was disappointed at our senior group at time a few didn't stand up poor errors to.
Got to cut out fade outs and lapses will cost us.
Tarrant for me is a liability and only played on match ups that suit him
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: georgies31 on June 16, 2022, 10:30:38 PM
Geez we are a thick footy team at times. Gifting soft goals through schoolboy brain fades. Allowing the ball to get out the back of aerial contests, not thumping the ball out of bounds, not thumping the ball on the goal line through for a point. Take the win but like last week we did our best to shoot ourselves in the foot  :banghead :facepalm

Unbelievable how we go in that mode of school boy stuff and dumb footy no composure at all and it's not our younger players either 3 time premiership players lol.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2022, 11:21:07 PM
Edwards, Lambert and Jack (bar that one tackle) have been an absolute liability tonight. Losing almost every contest.

Hard disagree on Lambert and Jack.

They lifted in the last quarter but until then we're terrible IMO.

Lambert looks stuffed, can hardly turn, no acceleration etc. Entirely reliant on being a smart player. Similar Jack, always looking for a tap or free kick, rarely winning any contest except that last 30-40min of the game.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: FooffooValve on June 16, 2022, 11:33:17 PM
Thought Jack's pressure was great tonight, 2 goals, 13 disposals, 5 effective tackles, 3 of which were frees for. Much much better than a liability.

Lambert had 23 and 2 great tackles, was generally smart and clean on a difficult night. Very important in his role and nowhere near a liability.

Edwards on the other hand...glad he kicked that goal. Otherwise a very worrying night from him. Looked reluctant to pick up the pill.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 16, 2022, 11:51:31 PM
Nank got smashed I thought.

Yep, very disappointing

We had Cotchin standing Cripps at centre Ball ups and Nank continually palmed it down to ..Cripps

2nd week in a row we've had a massive advantage in ruck contests and 2nd week in a row we have failed to capitalise
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Tiger Khosh on June 17, 2022, 04:30:54 AM
Is that a record for inside 50s? If not it must be close. Don’t think I’ve ever seen us go inside 76 times. Just shows how wasteful we were with our entries. Thought short was a bit of a culprit in that regard, for such a beautiful kick he managed to pick out the blues defender when it was easier to hit a teammate.

Thought jacks tackling was great and one of the reasons we got over the line. Was great having lynchy back too. Is playing really strong atm, 3 goals is a nice return plus brought the ball to ground even when outnumbered and generally had his opponent worried so much they would drop chest marks.

I was getting ready my post to say how I thought it was tarrants best game for the club at 3 qtr time but wowee how that changed in the last. Got absolutely pantsed by McKay. Just seems that the oppo just have to put the ball 1% to the advantage of their fwd and that’ll be enough to beat him. Now with balta injured he’ll prob get an extended run in the team. I’d be picking Miller and if he isn’t an improvement then atleast they’ll know when they make their list decisions at the end of the season.

One thing is for certain, I don’t feel secure with any margin of lead with this team. We can leak goals in very quick succession and have lost a number of games because of it. Absolute opposite to our premiership years where we could be on the back foot and still not let through a run of goals.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: eliminator on June 17, 2022, 06:43:10 AM
The highlight for me was the tackling. Daniel Rioli played a very good game. His tackle in the third quarter was outstanding as was Pickett's tackle on Cripps.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 17, 2022, 07:24:15 AM
Team Stats:

Disposals:      372 - 388 ..... ( contested: 160 - 168 ; uncontested: 195 - 208 )
Efficiency%:     68 - 66
Kicks:            237 - 222
Handballs:     135 - 166 
Turnovers:     100 - 93  :o
Marks:            69 - 79 ..... ( contested marks: 6 - 13 )
Tackles:          60 - 49
Clearances:     41 - 28 ..... ( centre: 13 - 10 ; stoppages: 28 - 18 )
Inside 50s:      76 - 51
In50 eff.%:     34 - 43  :P
In50 marks:      9 - 11
In50 tackles:     9 - 4
Hitouts:           32 - 28
Bounces:           7 - 19
One %ers:       73 - 59
Frees:              20 - 17

Individual possies:

Prestia    33
Baker      27
Short      25
Vlastuin  24
Lambert  23
Broad     22
Pickett    20
Graham  19
D.Rioli    19
Edwards 18
Cotchin   16
Bolton    15
Nankervis 14
Ralphsmith 13
Riewoldt  13
Balta       12 ..... ( subbed off early last qtr )
Lynch      11
Clarke     10
Grimes     8
Gibcus      7
M.Rioli      4 ..... ( subbed on early last qtr )
Tarrant     4

https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/3921#team-stats
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 17, 2022, 05:23:51 PM
RICHMOND V CARLTON – THE BIG QUESTIONS

https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-season-2022/2022/06/17/richmond-v-carlton-the-big-questions/
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: tdy on June 17, 2022, 08:52:07 PM
We have some young kids like Rioli and Gibcus that need time. Cotch was off his usual pace tonight. We aren't running out games. The Human Meatball is keeping us in games.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: the claw on June 18, 2022, 09:56:02 AM
Start by stating good win i didn't think we would and to be honest they are a team i would hope we don't have to play again.

Really think the weather gave us an edge i got the impression that they got hands on the ball first but coughed it up a lot.
76 i50's for just 11 goals generally speaking we are not an overly polished side and imo it shows up here

Think Prestia is the key to how far we can go.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 19, 2022, 12:28:11 PM
This was big, and ace.
Baker forcing it forward, Shai’s hands, Graham’s kick & yeah I really liked all of it 👊


(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/animatedvidsgifs/GrahamToLynchGoalR142022.gif)
https://twitter.com/rfcswallace/status/1537945777883951107
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 20, 2022, 06:15:50 AM
From Fox Footy's "First Crack" last night:

(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/stats/TigerDominanceR142022.png)


- Montagna said it was the record lowest score (81 pts) for any team with 75+ forward 50 entries.

- Blamed having the ball in our forward half so much that Carlton flooded. Slippery conditions combined with large numbers in our F50 made scoring difficult.

- Time in forward half differential was twice that of Melbourne's average (+9 to +10 mins).

- Jordan Lewis said it's a glass full/empty scenario. When you go inside 50 you've got to have diversity. You should win by 10 goals with that many inside 50s.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: the claw on June 20, 2022, 11:20:48 AM
This was big, and ace.
Baker forcing it forward, Shai’s hands, Graham’s kick & yeah I really liked all of it 👊


(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/animatedvidsgifs/GrahamToLynchGoalR142022.gif)
https://twitter.com/rfcswallace/status/1537945777883951107

Nearly didn't happen because of poor skills. If Bakers first attempt had not come back to him it was probably a goal the other way.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: FooffooValve on June 20, 2022, 12:49:36 PM
This was big, and ace.
Baker forcing it forward, Shai’s hands, Graham’s kick & yeah I really liked all of it 👊


(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/animatedvidsgifs/GrahamToLynchGoalR142022.gif)
https://twitter.com/rfcswallace/status/1537945777883951107

Nearly didn't happen because of poor skills. If Bakers first attempt had not come back to him it was probably a goal the other way.

That's the nature of surge football, which we've been playing for (checks notes) about 5 years.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Damo on June 20, 2022, 01:08:26 PM
This was big, and ace.
Baker forcing it forward, Shai’s hands, Graham’s kick & yeah I really liked all of it 👊


(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/animatedvidsgifs/GrahamToLynchGoalR142022.gif)
https://twitter.com/rfcswallace/status/1537945777883951107

Nearly didn't happen because of poor skills. If Bakers first attempt had not come back to him it was probably a goal the other way.

That's the nature of surge football, which we've been playing for (checks notes) about 5 years.

Did your notes indicate if we had any success playing this brand of footy?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 20, 2022, 02:02:39 PM
AFL Report Card: Round 14

Ben Cotton, David Zita and Catherine Healey
Foxsports
20 June 2022


RICHMOND

The stats indicate Richmond should’ve won by a hell of a lot more, but regardless it was yet another impressive performance that indicates the Tigers are well and truly September-bound. That’s six wins from their last seven matches and the Tigers and, even though some of those wins were against lowly opposition, the way they’ve been playing is a warning sign to the rest of the competition.

In the votes

Liam Baker continues to thrive for this Richmond side, while Dion Prestia is huge whenever he is at the centre bounces. Kane Lambert was another steadying influence given his presence allows Prestia ti spend more time in the middle. Tom Lynch kicked three goals in the first half, while Shai Bolton finally converted some of his chances, even though he missed a sitter early. Nick Vlastuin and Dylan Grimes down back were huge.

Room for improvement

Carlton piled on three quick goals in the final quarter and could’ve had a fourth if not for a touchy (pardon the pun) score review, so there’s certainly an opportunity to tighten up there and stop things from getting to dire from centre bounce, which they did well for the most part throughout the match. They had 76 inside 50s, nearly 20 more than their average, but failed to make the most of it, going well below average in terms of efficiency.

Grade

A

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-round-14-report-card-highlights-grades-analysis-every-club-reviewed-video-best-and-worst-stats/news-story/4a4a808cfd7d675039f2998372fd2c06
Title: Biggest difference between Richmond's R1 loss to Carlton & their R14 win? (SEN)
Post by: one-eyed on June 20, 2022, 02:05:09 PM
WHAT WAS THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RICHMOND'S R1 LOSS TO CARLTON AND THEIR R14 WIN?

By Nic Negrepontis
SEN
20 June 2022


It’s hard to undersell the importance of Dion Prestia to Richmond and it can be summed up by their two clashes with Carlton so far this year.

The Tigers led the Blues late into their Round 1 contest, before Prestia came off with a hamstring injury. Carlton would outscore the Tigers 47-7 in the final term to run over the top of them.

The Blues dominated the clearances, with Matt Kennedy and Patrick Cripps combining for 16, while Adam Cerra, Marc Pittonet and George Hewett combined for 14.

The injured Prestia only had two as Carlton controlled field position.

Fast forward to Round 14 and it was a different story. The Tigers won the clearance battle 41-28, a gap of 13.

Prestia won 13 clearances by himself, including four in the first quarter and four in the last. His presence in the midfield was almost singlehandedly the difference between the two teams.

Garry Lyon praised the 29-year-old for his performance and highlighted the difference he makes in the Richmond midfield.

“Dion Prestia on Thursday night, he had 13 clearances against the Carlton clearance machine,” Lyon told SEN Breakfast.

“You know what happened in Round 1? Richmond led Carlton into the last quarter by three or four goals – and then Prestia does his hamstring.

“Bang, Carlton come charging over the top of them. He’s a super important player.

“I’m a bit late to the party, I know he’s been a super player for a long period of time, but when he’s not there it makes a huge difference to Richmond.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/19/what-was-the-biggest-difference-between-richmonds-r1-loss-to-carlton-and/
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: one-eyed on June 20, 2022, 03:50:27 PM
Coaches votes (Hardwick & Voss)

Richmond v Carlton

10 Dion Prestia (RICH)
6 Adam Saad (CARL)
4 Jayden Short (RICH)
3 Liam Baker (RICH)
3 Jack Graham (RICH)
2 Dylan Grimes (RICH)
1 Sam Docherty (CARL)
1 Nick Vlastuin (RICH)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/784128/coaches-votes-r14-toby-s-perfect-night-young-suns-rack-em-up
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 20, 2022, 06:00:10 PM
Interesting that despite have 30, Cripps got no votes.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: FooffooValve on June 20, 2022, 08:21:04 PM
Quote
Quote
Quote

Nearly didn't happen because of poor skills. If Bakers first attempt had not come back to him it was probably a goal the other way.

That's the nature of surge football, which we've been playing for (checks notes) about 5 years.

Did your notes indicate if we had any success playing this brand of footy?


Yes, my notes appear to indicate 3 flags.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Broadsword on June 21, 2022, 03:41:08 AM
4 including the VFL premiership.

Sometimes you just have to call time on something that's not working.  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs Carlton @ the MCG --- Round 14, 2022
Post by: Damo on June 21, 2022, 11:53:53 AM
4 including the VFL premiership.

Sometimes you just have to call time on something that's not working.  :shh

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol