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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1800 on: August 22, 2013, 11:08:33 PM »
What a shame when vitamin s mcviegh dies of vitamin c

Such a media guru

The vitamin C that was administered by injection which nurses and doctors all around the country stated that it can only be taken orally. :stupid

My doormat on the backdoor which my cat sleeps on has more media savvy than vitamins McHalia.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1801 on: August 22, 2013, 11:10:13 PM »
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"We were taken off-site into a sterile environment (because) footy clubs sometimes can be not that clean - filthy, absolutely filthy," he said.

"So we were taken into a sterile environment and the only injections that I ever had was a vitamin C or vitamin B injection, which would be at the time I had a little baby girl.

"I wasn't getting much sleep. I was run down. I had a bit of a cold.

"I had a vitamin C injection. It is not uncommon. Natural vitamins they are.

"That's all they were, nothing any more sinister than that."

good luck spike  :)

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1802 on: August 23, 2013, 12:36:42 AM »
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-players-can-walk-out-experts-20130822-2sekq.html

Legal experts believe there is a strong case to say that Essendon's alleged failing in providing a safe workplace would allow the players to terminate their contracts - in effect, enabling even those under contract to leave the club if they wished to exercise that right.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1803 on: August 23, 2013, 01:06:28 AM »
So if Spike did end up with cancer, and tried to sue Essendon can they use his comments of vitamin C injections against him? Essendon are scum so wouldn't put it past them.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1804 on: August 23, 2013, 01:38:59 AM »
It comes down to which side can afford more human rights lawyers and the best understanding of natural justice

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« Reply #1805 on: August 23, 2013, 02:55:22 AM »
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/top-law-firm-in-talks-with-dons-player-20130822-2sekm.html

One of Melbourne's top compensation law firms is believed to be in talks with an Essendon player over the supplements scandal.
An industry source told Fairfax Media that national law firm Holding Redlich was providing early advice to at least one individual from the embattled AFL club.
On Thursday night a spokeswoman for the company said: ''Unfortunately Holding Redlich cannot comment on the Essendon matter at the moment.''
In March, lawyers for Holding Redlich believed to be in talks with an Essendon player who wrote an opinion piece for Fairfax Media.
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Workplace relations lawyers Andrea Reynolds and Emma Starkey said the drugs-in-sport controversy had created ''a legal minefield of conflicting interests''.
They said clubs that administered prohibited substances or failed to have adequate safeguards might breach their obligation to provide a safe work environment.
''This may also expose clubs to prosecution under relevant OHS legislation,'' they wrote.
Slater & Gordon's practice group leader, Ben Phi, said the immediate problem with launching legal action on behalf of players was that, as far as he was aware, no one had actually suffered any injuries as a result of the supplement program.
He said if there was potential for harm to develop in the long term they should consider quickly putting in place a program to monitor players' wellbeing.
But the supplements saga did get to court on Thursday when Essendon coach James Hird issued a writ against the AFL in the Supreme Court, claiming he had been denied natural justice and demanding AFL chief Andrew Demetriou be banned from taking part in any hearing against him.
Hird, who is charged with bringing the game into disrepute, is seeking an injunction stopping Demetriou and any AFL commissioner who has had access to the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority interim report on its investigation of Essendon from taking part in any hearing of the charge.
Hird also wants any hearing into the case delayed until he has been given details of the charge against him; a list of witnesses the AFL plans to call at the hearing and the substance of their evidence; and to be given all copies of documents the AFL will provide at the hearing.
Hird has given the AFL a deadline of September 16 to provide the information about the charge he faces and a September 30 deadline for information about the witnesses and other documentation the AFL will rely on to prosecute the Bombers' coach.
Hird, who claims he has been ambushed by the AFL, is also seeking damages for interference with his contractual obligations as Essendon coach, and legal costs.
Under the heading, 'AFL Acting in bad faith', Hird claimed that between February and August 21 this year the AFL had provided information to the media (directly or indirectly) with information it had acquired ''in the course of the alleged joint investigation''.
He said the AFL's intention to have the charge heard by the commission denied him natural justice and would cause him to suffer irreparable loss and damage and ''seriously interferes with Hird's coaching contract with Essendon''.


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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1806 on: August 23, 2013, 03:17:30 AM »
Essendon players can walk out: experts

     Jake Niall
      The Age
    August 23, 2013


Legal experts believe there is a strong case to say that Essendon's alleged failing in providing a safe workplace would allow the players to terminate their contracts - in effect, enabling even those under contract to leave the club if they wished to exercise that right.

Josh Bornstein, the deputy chair of Racing Victoria's appeals board and one the country's leading employment lawyers, said a case could be made that due to welfare, health and safety breaches, players could say their contract has been ''repudiated'', thereby allowing players to ''terminate'' the contract.

This view that Essendon might have repudiated the contracts by its treatment of players was shared by three other employment lawyers contacted by Fairfax Media. The AFL Players Association is also aware of this further legal novelty in the Essendon scandal - that players, if they wished, could seek to terminate contract and seek entry into the draft/trading system.

But rival clubs have also expressed concern about the prospect of players still being suspended for doping offences and there is also a view that those clubs would be reluctant to draft or trade for Essendon players, who might be suspended in the future - a situation that the Essendon, the AFLPA and the AFL have all wished to avoid from the outset of the scandal.

Most of Essendon's better players are under contract, and the club has been successful so far in avoiding any public breaking of the ranks from the playing group, albeit Triple M's breakfast show heard from a woman, ''Sarah'', who identified herself as a parent of an Essendon player and told host Eddie McGuire of her anger at the club for the way her son had been injected with substances and of the way it had handled the players and their parents.

Bornstein, a partner at Maurice Blackburn, said the repudiation of the contract would not require the players to have taken WADA banned substances, and it could be based upon the fact that the players had been either given ''harmful substances'' or if ''there is inadequate information about whether substance is harmful''.

''The question is what the player wants to do about that breach.''

Bornstein and other employment lawyers, who did to wish to be named, said there were common law provisions that applied to the players' contracts. There is also a clause in the AFL's standard player contract that states:

''The AFL club shall provide a playing, training and working environment which is, so far as is practicable, free of any risk to the health, safety and the welfare of the player. Without limitation, the AFL club shall observe and carry out its obligations under the applicable Occupational Health and Safety Act or its equivalent.''

Another leading employment lawyer said: ''I think it's probably a breach [of contract].'' He explained that AFL player contracts were different and more complicated, in that they were ''tripartite'' - involving the AFL as well as the club and the player.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-players-can-walk-out-experts-20130822-2sekq.html

Leading Melbourne lawyer Justin Quill confirmed players could walk away.

"There is a requirement for Essendon to provide a safe workplace and there is an argument it didn't do that because of the supplement program," he said.

"The follow-on is that there is an argument that Essendon has breached its duty to its players and is therefore effectively like a breach of their employment contract. That could allow players to walk away."

The AFL charge sheet said players were injected with "unprecedented frequency", under a regime that varied "sharply from prior practices" incorporating "exotic, mysterious and unfamiliar compounds".

"The club decided to implement the program without any meaningful input from appropriately qualified persons," it stated.

There is a provision under the collective bargaining agreement for players drafted by a club to refuse to sign a contract there.

But that player would need to provide exceptional circumstances why they should not play at Essendon, with heavy penalties for players who tamper with the draft.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-players-could-walk-away-from-the-club-as-a-result-of-supplement-saga/story-fndv8gad-1226702415886

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1807 on: August 23, 2013, 03:22:38 AM »
Tim Watson's conflicted role in Essendon saga

   Caroline Wilson
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    August 23, 2013


http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/tim-watsons-conflicted-role-in-essendon-saga-20130822-2sdij.html

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1808 on: August 23, 2013, 09:22:34 AM »
Here's Essendon's new theme song:

See the Bombers shoot up, up, AOD-9604
Cowboys who shoot drugs in their veins
Are always going to wallow in shame
See the Bombers shoot up, up, Thymosin Beta 4
Hexarelin and Mexican Vitamins
See the Bombers shoot up.... 

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1809 on: August 23, 2013, 09:24:35 AM »
Here's Essendon's new theme song:

See the Bombers shoot up, up, AOD-9604
Cowboys who shoot drugs in their veins
Are always going to wallow in shame
See the Bombers shoot up, up, Thymosin Beta 4
Hexarelin and Mexican Vitamins
See the Bombers shoot up....

Works for me!

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1810 on: August 23, 2013, 09:31:04 AM »
Hird presser at 11:30?

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« Reply #1811 on: August 23, 2013, 09:37:09 AM »
Hird presser at 11:30?

Yeeeeeessssssssssssssssssss :clapping

I heard he's going to publicly thank Dice for helping him out with his legal bill next week ;D

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1812 on: August 23, 2013, 09:43:12 AM »
More delusional statements coming up which contradicts his conduct.....
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1813 on: August 23, 2013, 10:15:23 AM »
Was hoping he would perform seppuku but he doesn't have a lick of honour left even for that.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1814 on: August 23, 2013, 11:28:51 AM »
Goodwin doing the presser  :sleep