Melbourne Cup - who are you tipping?

[one-eyed]

Who are you tipping in the Cup today?

1. ADMIRE RAKTI (JPN) s      8   Tomoyuki Umeda   Zac Purton   58.5
2. CAVALRYMAN (GB) d       3   Saeed Bin Suroor   Craig Williams   57
3. FAWKNER tshb   Blks   9   Robert Hickmott   Nicholas Hall   57
4. RED CADEAUX (GB) s      15   Ed Dunlop   G Mosse   57
5. PROTECTIONIST (GER) s      11   Andreas Wohler   Ryan Moore   56.5
7. SEISMOS (IRE) sh      1   M Botti   Craig Newitt   56
8. JUNOOB (GB) sh   Blks   7   Chris Waller   Hugh Bowman   55.5
9. ROYAL DIAMOND (IRE) ds      6   Johnny Murtagh   Steven Arnold   55.5
10. GATEWOOD (GB) shb      22   J H Gosden   William Buick   55
11. MUTUAL REGARD (IRE) d   (G)   12   Johnny Murtagh   Damien Oliver   55
12. WHO SHOT THEBARMAN (NZ) tdsh      13   Chris Waller   Glen Boss   55
13. WILLING FOE (USA)       17   Saeed Bin Suroor   James McDonald   55
14. MY AMBIVALENT (IRE) b         Late: Ambivalent      4   Roger Varian   Andrea Atzeni   54.5
15. PRECEDENCE (NZ) t      20   Bart and James Cummings   Michael Rodd   54.5
16. BRAMBLES (NZ) t      21   Peter G Moody   Luke Nolen   54
17. MR O'CEIRIN (NZ) tsh   Blks   19   Ciaron Maher   Chad Schofield   54
18. AU REVOIR (IRE) s   Blks-OFF   23   A Fabre   Glyn Schofield   53.5
19. LIDARI (FR) ts      10   Peter G Moody   Ben Melham   53.5
20. OPINION (IRE) sb      14   Chris Waller   Tye Angland   53.5
21. ARALDO (GB) t      24   Michael Moroney   Dwayne Dunn   53
22. LUCIA VALENTINA (NZ) thb      2   Kris Lees   Kerrin McEvoy   53
23. UNCHAIN MY HEART td   Blks-OFF   5   David Hayes And Tom Dabernig   Dean Yendall   51.5
24. SIGNOFF (IRE) t   Blks   16   Darren Weir   Joao Moreira   51 +1.00

http://www.racenet.com.au/melbourne-cup/field-formguide.aspx

[🏅Dooks]

I've gone for a mix of slightly longer shots than usual, but horses that are capable of winning and not just making up the numbers. Plus a couple of favourites to cover the outlay.

Race 1:- 3 Miss Idyllic. $14
Race 2:- 7 Khutulun $10
Race 3:- 9 Clear Direction $21
Race 4:- 2 The Quarterback $3
Race 5:- 8 Reigning Meteor $14
Race 6:- 2 Wine Tales $3
Race 7:- 2 Cavalry Man $21
Race 8:- 4 Jacquinot Bay $26
Race 9:- 14 Decircles $18
Race 10:- 13 Flash of Doubt $41

Fingers crossed for this year

[WilliamPowell]

Couldn't care less

First time in my life I'm working Cup Day. Stuck in the office until about 4.

[one-eyed]

5. Protectionist
4. Red Cadeaux
12. Who shot thebarman.


Tragically, the favourite and Caulfield Cup winner Admire Rakti collapsed after the race and died  .

[🏅Dooks]

I've gone for a mix of slightly longer shots than usual, but horses that are capable of winning and not just making up the numbers. Plus a couple of favourites to cover the outlay.

Race 1:- 3 Miss Idyllic. $14
Race 2:- 7 Khutulun $10
Race 3:- 9 Clear Direction $21
Race 4:- 2 The Quarterback $3
Race 5:- 8 Reigning Meteor $14
Race 6:- 2 Wine Tales $3
Race 7:- 2 Cavalry Man $21
Race 8:- 4 Jacquinot Bay $26
Race 9:- 14 Decircles $18
Race 10:- 13 Flash of Doubt $41

Fingers crossed for this year

[one-eyed]

Araldo is also fighting for his life.

Araldo was returning to scale after the race when he shied after a child waved a flag at him and shattered a cannon bone in the process.

The vets are trying their best to save him.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/melbourne-cup-2014-lastplaced-admire-rakti-dies-20141104-11gpjk.html#ixzz3I4Zs88hw

[dwaino]

People can be into what ever they're into and I don't ever want to be that guy that preaches their beliefs onto everyone else but when something like this happens I can't help it. Horses are beautiful and majestic creatures and exploiting them is disgusting enough on its own, but when they die after being pushed to their limits like this for money then enough is enough. Breaks my heart to hear about this. Racing them is one thing and I don't agree with it but each to their own, but a horse can't tell you to bugger off when it has had enough. Instead they are whipped and pushed to carry on.

[1965]

First World problem

[one-eyed]

Araldo is also fighting for his life.

Araldo was returning to scale after the race when he shied after a child waved a flag at him and shattered a cannon bone in the process.

The vets are trying their best to save him.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/melbourne-cup-2014-lastplaced-admire-rakti-dies-20141104-11gpjk.html#ixzz3I4Zs88hw

Sadly, Araldo's injuries were too severe to save him and he has been put down  .

[one-eyed]

RSPCA statement:

Tragedy at Melbourne Cup
Tuesday, 4th November 2014

We understand that in today’s Melbourne Cup, the favourite, Admire Rakti, collapsed and died and that Araldo was also seriously injured soon after the race.

This is a tragic outcome for both horses and we expect there to be a full and transparent investigation undertaken into both incidents.

Events like these are a stark reminder to the community of the real risks to horses associated with racing.

Sadly, injury and death are the price some horses pay for our entertainment in a sport that puts intense pressure on animals to perform to the limits of their endurance.

http://www.rspca.org.au/media-centre/news/2014/tragedy-melbourne-cup
 

[tigs2011]

People can be into what ever they're into and I don't ever want to be that guy that preaches their beliefs onto everyone else but when something like this happens I can't help it. Horses are beautiful and majestic creatures and exploiting them is disgusting enough on its own, but when they die after being pushed to their limits like this for money then enough is enough. Breaks my heart to hear about this. Racing them is one thing and I don't agree with it but each to their own, but a horse can't tell you to bugger off when it has had enough. Instead they are whipped and pushed to carry on.

[Judge Roughneck]

I wish we could whip and tell Chaplin and grigg to carry on when they are saying  "bugger off , I'm spent "

Horse > list blocking bastards

 

People can be into what ever they're into and I don't ever want to be that guy that preaches their beliefs onto everyone else but when something like this happens I can't help it. Horses are beautiful and majestic creatures and exploiting them is disgusting enough on its own, but when they die after being pushed to their limits like this for money then enough is enough. Breaks my heart to hear about this. Racing them is one thing and I don't agree with it but each to their own, but a horse can't tell you to bugger off when it has had enough. Instead they are whipped and pushed to carry on.

The pro jumps racing argument appears to be

'The horses are specific breed for this, hence, if they were not jump racing, the would not exist. And this is more cruel than them breaking leg and dying at three years old'

Or something

[mightytiges]

The question I would like answered, although it most likely never will be, is how much the extra-weight Admire Rakti was carrying in the Cup (as a result of him winning the Caulfield Cup) played in his death? It would certainly had added more stress on his body over the longer distance of the two miles.

[Damo]

People can be into what ever they're into and I don't ever want to be that guy that preaches their beliefs onto everyone else but when something like this happens I can't help it. Horses are beautiful and majestic creatures and exploiting them is disgusting enough on its own, but when they die after being pushed to their limits like this for money then enough is enough. Breaks my heart to hear about this. Racing them is one thing and I don't agree with it but each to their own, but a horse can't tell you to bugger off when it has had enough. Instead they are whipped and pushed to carry on.

Please.

Wait for the bloody autopsy at least. There is a chance it would have died race or not.

As for whipped and pushed to carry on. GET FAIR DINKUM. As soon as it was obvious the horse was in trouble Purton eased it out.

0.007% of horses die in this manner.

More people die playing footy. We should stop that as well I guess.

More horses die in equestrian each year than in horse racing (FACT), better stop that as well.

More people die playing lawn bowls each year than horses do racing, better stop bowls.

Sorry, but the world's gone mad.

And as for exploiting the horses. They are bred thoroughbreds, it's what they are bred to do and they love it. Anyone that thinks the horses don't like racing are kidding themselves.

Might I add, I actually cried when they said Admire Rakti was dead. It's tragic.
 

[Diocletian]

Circle of life....if it wasn't for horse racing, millions of dogs would starve....