Author Topic: 1 more list clean out  (Read 10241 times)

Online TigerLand

  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 5304
  • I <3 Mrs Hardwick
Re: 1 more list clean out
« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2012, 09:49:48 PM »
Am i right in saying, in the last few years we have had 6 players/rookies leave the club by themselves or by being sacked mid season?
Conners, MacDonald, Taylor, Roberts, O'Reilly and Heslin.
We are either recruiting the wrong guys or maybe there's something that stinks down at Tigerland?
No wonder we have no depth!

Would suggest the recruiting is majorly to blame, in these players cases.

All 6 are softer mentally than a used car shammy.
Go Tigers!

Online TigerLand

  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 5304
  • I <3 Mrs Hardwick
Re: 1 more list clean out
« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2012, 10:04:49 PM »
Big cross on whoever does contracts.

Contracting Graham and Browne for long deals for sub par players is poor.
McGuane contract extention was a joke.
McMahons aswell.

Too many Tigers get contracted on long deals and end up playing their last year in Coburg on AFL wages.

Don't mention Daniel Jacksons 2 year deal at the beginning of this year that was swept under the carpet so members didn't backlash.

Not good enough.
Go Tigers!

Offline Judge Roughneck

  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 11132
  • Sir
Re: 1 more list clean out
« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2012, 11:01:05 PM »
Grimes. Rance. Morris.
Batchelor. Griffiths. Helbig.
Ellis. Deledio. Conca
Edwards. Elton. Tuck.
OHanlon. Riewoldt. Newman.
IMaric. Martin. Cotchin.
Grigg. Dea. Nahas.

Sub and emg from: foley*. Arnot. GibsonTurner. Houli. Astbury. Vickery. Browne.

From there onwards its slim pickings

the claw

  • Guest
Re: 1 more list clean out
« Reply #63 on: July 15, 2012, 11:56:42 PM »
assuming the following go at seasons end. connors, macdonald, graham, mcguane, white, webberley, post derickx.. rookies miller heslin  with newman going to the vet list.thats nine out ten in.

that leaves the following 30 players not including rookies with age  at the start of next  yr 25th march. games played and ranking. A = elite. B = very good. C = good. D  = development.  BS = below standard.
arnot -  D.   19yrs 155days. 0 - 5 games.
astbury -  D. 22yrs 27 days. 15 - 20 games.
batchelor - D/C That is development player with current ranking of good. 21yrs 40 days. 30 plus games.
browne - D. 22YRS  242DAYS.  12 games.
conca - D/C. 20 YRS 206 days.  30 plus  games.
cotchin - A 22YR 352 Days.  80 plus games
dea - D. 21YRS 146 days.  17 plus games.
deledio - A. 25YRS 341 days. 170 odd games.
edwards - BS/C that is below standard to good. 24yrs 151 days. 115 odd games.
ellis - D. 19yrs 205days. 20 odd games.
elton - D. 19 yrs 311 days. 0 to 5 games.
foley -  C/B. 27yrs 198 days.  120 odd games.
griffiths - D. 21yrs 189 days. 15 to 20 odd games.
grigg -  C. 24yrs 340 days. 80 plus games.
grimes - D, CB THAT IS HES VERY MUCH A DEVELOPMENT PLAYER WHO RATES GOOD TO VERY GOOD ATM.21YRS 252 DAYS.  17 TO 20 ODD GAMES.
helbig - D. 21yrs 25 days. 10 to 15 odd games.
houli - C. 24yrs 217 days.  65 to 70 odd games.
jackson - BS. 26yrs 334 days. 120 odd games.
king - BS. 29yrs 1 day. 83 games.
i maric -  C/B. 27YRS 55 days.  95 odd games.
martin -  B. 21yrs 272 days. 60 odd games.
moore - C 29YRS 0 days.  85 TO 90 odd games.
morris - C.  24yrs 84days.  15 to 20 odd games.
nahas - BS/C. 25YRS 231 days. 75 odd games.
newman - C. 30YRS 311 DAYS. 210 odd games.
ohanlon - D.  19 yrs  232 days. 5 odd games.
rance - C. 23yrs 167 days.  65 odd games.
riewoldt B. 24YRS 145 days.   105 odd games.
Tuck - C. 31yrs 91 days.  155 to 160 odd games.
vickery- D 22yrs 298 days 54 games.

so at the start of next yr we will have.
15 aged 22 or under so half of the available players or likely players are in development age.

1 23 yo .
5 24 yo.
2 25yo.
1 26yo
2 27yo
 just 11 players in the most critical age bracket it is a real problem.

2 29 yo.
1 30yo
1 31 yo.

good and bad here the good is we wont have too many retiring on us  the bad is a few more around 28 30 would not kill us.

games played

at the start of next yr
13 players  will have played somewhere between 0 and 49 games. this will go close to 20 players  if we cut the players mentioned and take mostly kids.
10 players will have played 50 to 99 games  not enough imo want another 5 at least in this bracket.
6 players will have played 100 to 200 games  want double that number.
1 player will have played 220+ plus games.

rankings and yes they are just my opinion but even if i have a third of them wrong the situation is dire.

D = Development players some may be good players already but have only been around 2 or 3 yrs. i  have 13 in this bracket and once again that will swell if we take as many kids as we should at seasons end. remember it does not include rookies. im only talking about the list proper.

C = Good solid player.  I HAVE 10 IN THIS CATEGORY SOME ARE BORDERLINE BELOW STANDARD SOME ARE BORDERLINE V/GOOD.

B= very good player. JUST 2 IN THIS CATEGORY.

A = ELITE. JUST 2 IN THIS CATEGORY.

BS = below standard. 3 in this category again theres some others in othe categories who are borderline.

to me there is clearly not enough real quality spread thru out the list and clearly brings into question our depth. also even if we were to keep older experienced players like mcguane white and one or two others it will not greatly change the above.

we literally need a shedload of our 22 and unders to come thru and take over but that is not going to happen until they get enough games and experience into them.  this is purely a age depth games experience look at it . when you break it down further into typeof player heights positions  it reads much the same.
it wont happen quickly and it will only happen if we get recruiting and development spot on.





Offline georgies31

  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 3768
Re: 1 more list clean out
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2012, 02:07:11 AM »
I dont want see Adam Maric and Angus Graham in our team again.Better off going 2 players short in a games.Why was Maric picked up for???.Give me a hungry kid that wants to play afl footy anyday of the week like Willie Wheeler.

Offline eliminator

  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 3711
Re: 1 more list clean out
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2012, 06:53:45 AM »
A Maric and Graham must be delisted

Jackstar is back again

  • Guest
Re: 1 more list clean out
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2012, 07:24:41 AM »
Not delisted just delete them
They couldn't be for real
There both just IPhone apps

Offline Smokey

  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 9279
Re: 1 more list clean out
« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2012, 08:49:17 AM »
Not delisted just delete them
They couldn't be for real
There both just IPhone apps

 :lol

One of your best Jack!

Offline rfctigers05

  • Premiership Captain
  • ****
  • Posts: 346
  • Like the Tigers of Old
Re: 1 more list clean out
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2012, 09:10:11 AM »
Newman hides again. The fish stinks from the head. Houli resigned what a joke.
I give up on these jokers giving jobs to the boys
More prayer rooms was obvious after saterday night  :bow
Truly my dear in this world a square is not round-Don Giovanni

Offline Mr Magic

  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 6887
Re: 1 more list clean out
« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2012, 09:29:43 AM »
2 more.

Offline rfctigers05

  • Premiership Captain
  • ****
  • Posts: 346
  • Like the Tigers of Old
Re: 1 more list clean out
« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2012, 02:37:02 PM »
Richo is still on the books with some fancy job title. Boys club seriously how can he help us on the field without actuall having a physical presence
Cut the umbilical cord tigers we need professionalism not good nice blokes
Truly my dear in this world a square is not round-Don Giovanni

Offline WilliamPowell

  • Administrator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 39080
  • Better to ignore a fool than encourage one
    • One Eyed Richmond
Re: 1 more list clean out
« Reply #71 on: July 16, 2012, 03:09:42 PM »
Contracting Graham and Browne for long deals for sub par players is poor.

BrownE - long term deal  :huh He is on a 1 year deal that ends at the end of this season

As for Gus yes he was given a 3 year contract and that was a mistake because there's a season to go
"Oh yes I am a dreamer, I still see us flying high!"

from the song "Don't Walk Away" by Pat Benatar 1988 (Wide Awake In Dreamland)