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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2012, 11:02:23 AM »
Can anyone else post in this thread or is this specifically for Claws quatrains?

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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2012, 11:39:01 AM »
Can anyone else post in this thread or is this specifically for Claws quatrains?

Just because you say it Claw, doesn't necessarily mean its true. And just because we  may disagree with you, doesn't mean we are wrong.

Claws posts are starting to appear to me only as those generated MS Word docs

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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2012, 03:54:28 PM »
@ claw

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/poll-winners-in-the-psd-rookie-drafts.983280/page-15#post-26690206

the gun highlights the point in trying to make in regards to our reserves

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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2012, 10:00:54 AM »
His a genuine mid though
oh i see. your okay with hacks as long as they are the right type.  what part of slow as a wet wick and poor skills dont you understand.

me well im all for taking the right type as long as they have some decent form and attributes.
who knows he may prove a decent get hes gotta be better than jackson and white surely.

Coburg required another starting midfielder- thems the facts.
coburg requited about 6 starting mids them the facts. but doesnt coburg also mean richmond.  after the trade and draft periods i reckon we are at least 3 development starting mids short.
 we are also still deficient in key forwards and ruckmen. ruckmen. if many of the younger ones dont step up this yr this could look worsre at yrs end.

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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2012, 10:38:34 AM »
yeah be nice to have a list of 60 senior players

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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2012, 01:15:15 PM »
yeah be nice to have a list of 60 senior players
It appears that way doesn't it  :rollin  :lol

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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2012, 05:34:41 PM »
yeah be nice to have a list of 60 senior players

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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2012, 10:24:21 PM »
yeah be nice to have a list of 60 senior players
you only need 44. yes i get the sarcasm.
how many genuine mids does a list of 44 need to cater to game day, depth and develoment.
how mant genuine tall defenders should you have.
how many genuine talls
how many flankers specialist position players.
how many ruckmen.

its not hard in fact pretty basic questions which have been asked by me regularly.  it seems not too many on here are prepared to answer or dont have an opinion on it.

to answer
6 tall forwards. 2 juniors, 2 development, 2 mature/vets riewoldt. elton. vickery, mcguane. need two.

6 tall defenders 2 juniors, 2 development, 2 mature/vets. chaplin, grimes, rance, darrou, mcintosh, astbury, griffiths and sorry have to say it possibly mcbean. to me thats at least 1 too many send one to the forward line if not two.

16 - 18  genuine mids as a minimum. depending on what flankers can do ie rotate  in the midfield it could be more. will do the mids later.

4  ruckmen genuine ruckmen that is. imo a minimum. i prefer 5. 2 should be afl ready if not 3. 2 mature, 1 development, 2 junior or variations of this. maric, derickx, stephenson, possibly mcbean.
take ivan away and what do you have. definately one more long genuine prospect please.

4/5  specialist sml/med forwards 1 junior, 2 development, 1 mature/  vet. hopefully at least half can rotate thru midfield if need be. all need to be big bodied. nahas, edwards, edwards, petterd, ohanlon king mcdonough simon.  clearly we  have too many. clearly the quality is the reason we have so many  we can cut 3 in this area especially the limited ones.

4/5  sml/med defenders. 1 junior, 2 development, 1 mature/vets. again hopefully half are capable of rotating thru the midfield. all need to be big bodied.  morris, houli, batchelor, newman, verrier, dea,  we could cut 2 here especially the ones who are limited in their roles.

that possibly  leaves 2 spots for flexability needs and cover for areas where maybe you have 5 kids and 1 development player so you get a mature player to help.

as far as mids go do a reserve side having picked your senior team. then tell me how many genuine mids are there left,  then tell me  how many of quality. imo coburg, sorry  long term development of mids at coburg  well the numbers just are not there and neither is the quality or proper depth.

genuine mids at richmond
cotchin, foley, deledio, tuck, grigg, martin, knights, conca, ellis and vlastuin. thats 10 id have in my starting 22. but even some of these players can be questioned still if they are, or have become genuine mids.

it leaves imo
helbig, arnot, lonergan, jackson yuck, and possibly  white.  no i wont include white hes not an afl standard mid.
at vfl level nahas houli and king can play thru there but there is no way in the world you want to see them play in the midfield at richmond.  it leaves mcintosh and mcdonough both have questions about weather they will become mids or be specialist players. atm for me ones a defender the other a sml forward.

i make it 13 all up genuine mids. we could easily do another 3 in fact we need to do another 3.

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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #53 on: December 22, 2012, 04:19:10 AM »
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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2012, 10:03:54 AM »
Great reading claw but your lack of punctuation makes it hard to appreciate the effort. Is the shift button busted on your keyboard?

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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #55 on: December 22, 2012, 11:00:32 AM »
Great reading claw but your lack of punctuation makes it hard to appreciate the effort. Is the shift button busted on your keyboard?

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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2012, 01:50:00 PM »
Really happy with this pick up. Liked him from early on at the bombers.

Predict Sam will play a lot of games for the Tigers.

Good solid player and in my best 22 for sure.

Heard from a Bombers fan/family member that Hirdy and Sam didn't really get along so both were happy with the outcome.

Anybody else hear that?

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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2012, 02:19:19 PM »
Can anyone else post in this thread or is this specifically for Claws quatrains?

Just because you say it Claw, doesn't necessarily mean its true. And just because we  may disagree with you, doesn't mean we are wrong.

Claws posts are starting to appear to me only as those generated MS Word docs

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Makes as much sense as any of claws posts :lol
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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #58 on: December 26, 2012, 03:27:06 PM »
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Re: Rookie pick 22 - Sam Lonergan
« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2012, 04:01:14 PM »

Good solid player and in my best 22 for sure



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