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Re: pick#12
« Reply #225 on: November 08, 2015, 08:32:47 PM »
don't think they were thinking bout Dunkley at 12, definately later down the draft order.
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Re: pick#12
« Reply #226 on: November 08, 2015, 08:38:50 PM »
Both Foxsports and Inside Football have Ah Chee at our pick.


RICHMOND

Pick: 12

Ideal: Callum Ah Chee

Otherwise: Daniel Rioli

The Tigers have a decent spine, but need some X-factor if they are to finally find that elusive finals win and go deep in September.

Last season, they kicked just 42 per cent of their score from general play. That’s the lowest rate of any side in the competition.

So they will be looking for a zippy forward, who can move into the midfield and kick goals.

That man could be Callum Ah Chee.

With elite pace and agility, Ah Chee has a massive jump and the ability to win games in an instant. Although he’s not a prolific ball-winner, he can also shift into the middle.

“Clubs are obviously craving outside speed and Ah Chee has plenty of that,” AFL academy coach Brenton Sanderson said.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-draft-2015-who-your-club-should-take-with-its-first-pick/story-e6frf3e3-1227597567462
I have said it before.To me there is little of Ah Chee's game that will translate to midfield.
If sml fwd is the priority then go get him but dont expect him to be a good mid. A specialist small fwd in the Garlett mould.

We will play 8 or 9 players in our 22 that i would classify as small. it includes Conca and Hunt who are not big bodied mids. Miles, Edwards, B Ellis, Lambert, Houli, Yarran, Lloyd/butler and even C Ellis atm is light on.
I know Gresham is a mid but is he really the type of mid we want.If we want outside pace dont we have Menadue and Drummond another sml mid. If we take him we take him but im just looking at the types we have and dont have.

If Oliver is there i reckon we will take him we still need inside mids.

Burton is my pick. We have a great need of a Jack Gunston/Jack Darling  type and he is it.Would also consider Curnow if available. People are kidding themselves if they think we have the tall fwd area covered.
A lot of people said no to Jake Stringer because of his broken leg. I dont have a problem with broken bones they tend to heal stronger than they were.Joints and small bones in the feet can be tricky.

If Oliver and Burton/Curnow  are gone then im all for addressing  our need for another quality kpd Kieren Collins please. Lets be honest here Rance and then the 30 yr old Chaplin who we all complain about but he is a better option than the others which says a lot about the quality of our kpds bar one.Out side of a quality ruckman this is probably the greatest need on the list though in saying that we have plenty of list needs.
Dear claw, the fracture Burton sustained was through his knee joint. It involved the tibial plateau which is the bit that the thigh bone or femur rests on. The tibial plateau contains the menisci or cartilages too and is where the anterior and posterior cruciate ligaments attach. Burton claims no ligament damage and minor cartilage damage. The joint was still involved and so was the growth plate.
Nobody knows the long term sequelae to an injury such as this without knowing the exact injury and how it has healed.  If he is going to be 100%, he'd be a steal at 12. If he is going to have chronic knee issues I'd look elsewhere......
where did you get that specific info?  I saw an interview where they said it was just below the knee but I am getting senile so I will gladly stand corrected.  Plus I thought a patients detailed medical information was confidential.  Pretty sure the quaks are going to know pretty quickly if that knee is stuffed in a medical.  Ahh nvm, sheeeeyat, that was bad.....http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/north-adelaide-forward-ryan-burtons-horrific-leg-injury-makes-him-one-of-the-drafts-biggest-question-marks/news-story/d4f16c1557009efed34168a416288568?from=herald%20sun_rss
My knowledge of his injury comes from what is available on the internet. He described the injury as a hyperextension injury that caused his tibia to fracture. The most common fracture is through the tibial plateau. He also said he had some cartilage damage which can be explained by the mode of injury. So there has been no breach of confidentiality here hooter. :thumbsup
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Re: pick#12
« Reply #227 on: November 08, 2015, 09:08:14 PM »
yeah modded my post and linked article,  has youth on his side.  Must of hurt like stuff lol
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Re: pick#12
« Reply #228 on: November 08, 2015, 10:09:38 PM »
Both Foxsports and Inside Football have Ah Chee at our pick.


RICHMOND

Pick: 12

Ideal: Callum Ah Chee

Otherwise: Daniel Rioli

The Tigers have a decent spine, but need some X-factor if they are to finally find that elusive finals win and go deep in September.

Last season, they kicked just 42 per cent of their score from general play. That’s the lowest rate of any side in the competition.

So they will be looking for a zippy forward, who can move into the midfield and kick goals.

That man could be Callum Ah Chee.

With elite pace and agility, Ah Chee has a massive jump and the ability to win games in an instant. Although he’s not a prolific ball-winner, he can also shift into the middle.

“Clubs are obviously craving outside speed and Ah Chee has plenty of that,” AFL academy coach Brenton Sanderson said.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/afl-draft-2015-who-your-club-should-take-with-its-first-pick/story-e6frf3e3-1227597567462
I have said it before.To me there is little of Ah Chee's game that will translate to midfield.
If sml fwd is the priority then go get him but dont expect him to be a good mid. A specialist small fwd in the Garlett mould.

We will play 8 or 9 players in our 22 that i would classify as small. it includes Conca and Hunt who are not big bodied mids. Miles, Edwards, B Ellis, Lambert, Houli, Yarran, Lloyd/butler and even C Ellis atm is light on.
I know Gresham is a mid but is he really the type of mid we want.If we want outside pace dont we have Menadue and Drummond another sml mid. If we take him we take him but im just looking at the types we have and dont have.

If Oliver is there i reckon we will take him we still need inside mids.

Burton is my pick. We have a great need of a Jack Gunston/Jack Darling  type and he is it.Would also consider Curnow if available. People are kidding themselves if they think we have the tall fwd area covered.
A lot of people said no to Jake Stringer because of his broken leg. I dont have a problem with broken bones they tend to heal stronger than they were.Joints and small bones in the feet can be tricky.

If Oliver and Burton/Curnow  are gone then im all for addressing  our need for another quality kpd Kieren Collins please. Lets be honest here Rance and then the 30 yr old Chaplin who we all complain about but he is a better option than the others which says a lot about the quality of our kpds bar one.Out side of a quality ruckman this is probably the greatest need on the list though in saying that we have plenty of list needs.
Dear claw, the fracture Burton sustained was through his knee joint. It involved the tibial plateau which is the bit that the thigh bone or femur rests on. The tibial plateau contains the menisci or cartilages too and is where the anterior and posterior cruciate ligaments attach. Burton claims no ligament damage and minor cartilage damage. The joint was still involved and so was the growth plate.
Nobody knows the long term sequelae to an injury such as this without knowing the exact injury and how it has healed.  If he is going to be 100%, he'd be a steal at 12. If he is going to have chronic knee issues I'd look elsewhere......

Had ligament damage too

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Re: pick#12
« Reply #229 on: November 08, 2015, 10:38:35 PM »
North Adelaide forward Ryan Burton’s horrific leg injury makes him one of the draft’s biggest question marks

Andrew Capel
Adelaide Advertiser
November 8, 2015 2:52pm


FOR 15 minutes all eyes were on Ryan Burton.

As the exciting North Adelaide forward took his turn on the medical table at the AFL draft combine doctors and physiotherapists from all 18 clubs scrutinised him like no other member of this year’s draft class.

“Every club was around me looking at the X-rays, playing with my leg and pushing and prodding me,’’ Burton said of his centre-of-attention moment.

“There were doctors, physios and scouts from all the clubs and they were testing me, asking questions and taking notes.

“I felt like a piece of meat and I was pretty nervous about it because a lot of people saw it as my biggest test of the week.

“Hopefully the doctors came away thinking my leg was as good as I do.’’

Burton’s rebuilt left leg is one of the biggest mysteries surrounding this year’s draft crop.

No other player at last month’s combine — where Australia’s best talent was put on display at Melbourne’s Etihad Stadium for the AFL clubs — spent more than five minutes having their bodies, in particular previous injuries, examined.

But the 191cm Burton is a unique case.

Before the high-leaping 18-year-old landed freakishly from a marking contest while playing for Sacred Heart against Victoria’s Assumption College on August 24 last year he had been inked as a likely top-five and possible number one draft selection this year.

But his leg and knee were so badly mangled — the kneecap had been dislocated, the tibia shattered and there was ligament and cartilage damage — that there were early fears that he might not be able to run again, let alone play football.

The surgeon who operated on Burton, former Crows rover Matthew Liptak, said he had sustained injuries seen more often in motorcycle accidents than on a football field.

“When I did the injury I immediately thought that my (AFL) dreams might have been shattered then and there,’’ said Burton, who had 10 screws and a plate inserted into his shredded leg to hold it together.

Now, nearly 15 months after thinking his draft chances were “gone’’, Burton is confident he will find an AFL home at the November 24 draft in Adelaide.

Still sporting a 20cm scar which runs down the outside of his knee as a stark reminder of his horrific injury, Burton missed the entire 2015 season but managed to take part in all the physical testing at the combine apart from the beep test, which he avoided due to the rapid stopping and turning on the hard floor.

“I felt I showed that my knee is absolutely fine,’’ said Burton, who made his league debut for the Roosters at age 17 and put his name in lights with a standout five-goal, 10-mark display in SA’s opening under-18 game against WA last year.

“I’ve been training pretty well flat out for the past three to four months and have had no setbacks at all.

“My training over the past few months has actually been better than it was prior to the injury and from what I can understand the clubs are pretty happy with what they’ve seen.’’

Burton, the son of dual North premiership player Craig Burton, spent his year on the sidelines stacking on 10kg of muscle to now hit the scales at an impressive 90kg.

His top-five hopes are gone but he is almost certain to be among the first 20 players selected.

The Crows will look at him closely with their first pick at number nine.

Adelaide last year took a punt which paid dividends on key defender Jake Lever, who slipped from a potential top-five pick to number 14 after missing his final under-age year following a knee reconstruction.

“Fourteen months ago I was sitting in a wheelchair so it’s been a long, tough road and it will be a nervous couple of weeks now waiting for the draft,’’ Burton said.

“But after such a tough year to hear my name called out would be an extra special moment for me.’’

http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/north-adelaide-forward-ryan-burtons-horrific-leg-injury-makes-him-one-of-the-drafts-biggest-question-marks/story-fnelctok-1227600649080

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Re: pick#12
« Reply #230 on: November 09, 2015, 05:51:54 AM »
Hmm. That article did not endear me to him. Sounds like a huge talent but we didn't get a good look in his final junior year aside from the injury. If he's still available at pick 12 I'd say there's a reason.

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Re: pick#12
« Reply #231 on: November 09, 2015, 07:03:39 AM »
Can he play as a small inside mid if required?

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Re: pick#12
« Reply #232 on: November 09, 2015, 08:13:34 AM »
Is he big enough to play as a small sized big bodied big defender

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« Reply #233 on: November 09, 2015, 09:44:44 AM »
I reckon we will use him as a tall in an under outside skinny flanker
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« Reply #234 on: November 09, 2015, 09:48:04 AM »
Petey is right.  Whoever it is will have to play half back flank so they learn how to defend. ::)
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« Reply #235 on: November 09, 2015, 11:08:03 AM »
Hmm. That article did not endear me to him. Sounds like a huge talent but we didn't get a good look in his final junior year aside from the injury. If he's still available at pick 12 I'd say there's a reason.
Sounds suspiciously like some Adelaide dis-information to push him down the order. They have done this before.

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« Reply #236 on: November 09, 2015, 11:16:54 AM »
Petey is right.  Whoever it is will have to play half back flank so they learn how to defend. ::)

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« Reply #237 on: November 09, 2015, 01:31:53 PM »
The Herald-Sun doesn't have us linked to Darcy Tucker even though he spent a week training with Richmond and loved it at Punt Rd.



... but a week spent training with Richmond as part of the AFL’s academy program also set Tigers skipper Trent Cotchin apart from the rest.

“It was unreal,” Tucker says of his week at Punt Road last Christmas.

“It was an eye opener. I looked at that and thought ‘this is where I want to be in a year’. I took a lot out of it.

“Trent Cotchin was one I really gravitated towards. From the day I came in, he came up to me and introduced himself and talked to me daily.

“He was one person I got a lot from and who I aspire to be like. It’s obvious why he’s Richmond’s captain.”



PREDICTED DRAFT RANGE: 10-25

IN THE MIX: Adelaide (13), St Kilda (14), North Melbourne (17), Carlton (19), Western Bulldogs (20/21)


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-draft-2015-darcy-tucker-sets-bar-high-on-football-leadership-aspirations/news-story/9b28c5e4c0b68aa700b56fe7d1a32eda

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Re: pick#12
« Reply #238 on: November 09, 2015, 01:47:55 PM »
Going places: Rocket man Callum Ah Chee out to prove his hanger is no fluke

Clubs know Ah Chee is already good at a lot of things. He's a classy kick, can mark well above his head, and he's smart around goal. He has pace, too: he's a loping type of runner, but has completed the 20-metre sprint in 2.88 seconds.

He has shown those traits as a 182cm forward, but as a kid he used to play in the ruck because of his big leap. The 17-year-old sees his development in his draft season coming in the midfield.

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Recruiters like the point of difference Ah Chee brings to this year's draft. The group overall might be short on pace and class relative to previous years, but he has both.

"He's a Rolls Royce," one club scout says. "He's so smooth across the ground and is one of those players where everything slows down when he's involved. He'd have a lot of suitors pretty high in the draft, maybe in the top three."

A recruiter from another club says Ah Chee's humble personality is appealing. "He's a really intelligent, engaging kid who speaks articulately," he says.

"He's getting the message now about his footy, too, and I don't think until the tour he had really had too much brutal feedback. But he's smart and he understood it. He's from pretty good stock with his brothers, who are all high achievers."


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-09/going-places-rocket-man-callum-ah-chee-out-to-prove-his-hanger-is-no-fluke

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Re: pick#12
« Reply #239 on: November 09, 2015, 01:48:16 PM »
Clayton Oliver's profile article on the AFL website today:

Oliver's barnstorming second half of the season has seen him push into first-round contention. He is being considered as a top-10 pick and won't last too much longer should he not be taken there.



http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-09/15-days-to-the-draft-meet-morrish-medallist-and-elite-user-clayton-oliver