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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #795 on: March 26, 2016, 07:38:02 PM »
@Big Tone - the huddle on the F50 arc you pointed out is something I think is pretty clever actually!  The fact that no other side does it doesn't make it a poor set up, if anything it makes us unique.  Its the best way to combat the zone defence epidemic going on in the league.  Gathering our forwards in a huddle also gathers up all the would-be 'zoners' which breaks up their defensive structure & opens up the whole F50.  If we gain a centre break the huddle can split & offer up a number of options with each lead going into clear space instead of running into 'zoners'.
Our iffy execution of the plan is one thing we can talk about, it all falls down if we don't get a clean hit out & clear possession in the middle (which comes back to our rucks effectiveness), but the huddle plan itself has merit IMO.   
All the huddle does is let the opposition get a 2nd, 3rd, 4th man up if there is a quick kick out of the middle and a chance to block our leads. There isn't many times if any in a game where we get a clean clearance and have time to wait for a lateral lead from this huddle. I cannot remember any from Thursday nights game.
All most key position forwards want is a one on one contest. And it's a coaches job IMO to try and create that.
Even if what you say is correct, why not have someone leading from the goal square with room in front of him. It gives us a second option to that sideways lead.  Even if it only one forward and his opponent. If an opposition side want to drop an extra guy back in front of him it creates an even number in the huddle as we play one short in our forwardline.
And lastly, our forwardline has been a problem for a long time now, I think most would agree, maybe just maybe this isn't helping even if it is unique. 17 other teams coaches think that way and it's not like we have just started doing this. They have had time to analyze it and copy it if it was any good.
Anyway just my opinion.

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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #796 on: March 26, 2016, 07:39:18 PM »
Just get Hurley .

Forget Astbury. Ship him off to Brisbane for pick 60 .

Forced retirement for Chappy at the end of the year.
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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #797 on: March 26, 2016, 09:08:10 PM »
Just get Hurley .

Forget Astbury. Ship him off to Brisbane for pick 60 .

Forced retirement for Chappy at the end of the year.

Yep

Whatever it takes

Hurley and rance would be the best kpd duo in the league

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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #798 on: March 26, 2016, 10:07:49 PM »
I think TM and BT make good points.
I wonder why the big Assberry doesn't play forward?
He's a much better one on one mark that Ty or Big Benny.
I think the way our talls play in the forward line hurts our i50 disposal - we tend to bomb it in and Jack/Ty/Big Ben aren't naturally good at one n one contested marking.
Reckon the big Assberry could give us something there.
Jack's not naturally good at one on one contested marking?

Really?

You really think he is?
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #799 on: March 26, 2016, 10:09:39 PM »
Ummmmmmm yeh

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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #800 on: March 26, 2016, 10:16:08 PM »
If you're saying he's good when he can use his leap - maybe but when one out with a bigger defender then I'd disagree.
He's good at ground level, he's great when he leads and he is fantastic when leaping into a pack but I don't see him like I do a Taylor Walker when one out.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #801 on: March 26, 2016, 10:26:52 PM »
when he won his first coleman they managed to isolate him one out for most of the season - he didnt crumb the majority of his goals like mcbean does.

if he engages in a wrestling match with a bigger bodied opponent before the ball gets into range he struggles, as do most players, and that is not what you specified.
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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #802 on: March 26, 2016, 11:59:39 PM »
Just get Hurley .

Forget Astbury. Ship him off to Brisbane for pick 60 .

Forced retirement for Chappy at the end of the year.
package him with Griff and B Ellis for Jaeger or Dion..........

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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #803 on: March 27, 2016, 08:17:42 AM »
In not sure if throwing more duds in the package is going to attract quality in return though

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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #804 on: March 27, 2016, 08:27:22 AM »
when he won his first coleman they managed to isolate him one out for most of the season - he didnt crumb the majority of his goals like mcbean does.

if he engages in a wrestling match with a bigger bodied opponent before the ball gets into range he struggles, as do most players, and that is not what you specified.

It's pretty obvious though?
Do we need claw sized posts to over explain points made?
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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« Reply #805 on: March 27, 2016, 08:40:09 AM »
no but if you are being specific, don't talk in general terms.
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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #806 on: March 27, 2016, 10:45:17 AM »
no but if you are being specific, don't talk in general terms.

That's all relative, if you want to moderate a forum then set one up yourself
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #807 on: March 27, 2016, 10:58:17 AM »
lol
if you want people to understand what you mean, then write what you mean, not make vague statements and expect people to interpret it into something else
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

yaw rehto eht dellorcs ti fi daer ot reisae eb dluow tI

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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #808 on: March 27, 2016, 05:24:59 PM »
 :shh
Then he grabbed two chopsticks and stuck them in his mouth , pretending to be a walrus

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Re: David Astbury [merged]
« Reply #809 on: March 27, 2016, 05:59:35 PM »
SNIP again

Enough to with the name calling and petty insults

Not interested who supposedly started it

Would also Suggest people keep their personal feuds off the forum

Or

All involved can take a forum enforced holiday

And finally a reminder accusing others of breaking posting rules eg accusing others of "trolling " is against the rules as well and those that continually do that face a suspension themselves




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