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Re: Dion Prestia [merged]
« Reply #1425 on: June 27, 2022, 07:24:55 PM »
"Tigers will know more about Prestia's outlook tomorrow after he checked in for scans".

0:43 min mark: https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1541345826160656384



ps. Dangerfield despite being president of the AFLPA is hardly a neutral voice in this matter by the way.


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Re: Dion Prestia [merged]
« Reply #1426 on: June 27, 2022, 07:32:30 PM »
Jon Ralph on the Couch tonight:

The AFL say the game wasn't stopped because there was no stoppage in the play to stop it.

Ralph added they could have stopped it from the moment Prestia was hit. 

Balmey told Ralph the Club should have called the stretcher to stop the play so yeah it can be said it was on us. It would have cost Prestia 20 mins on the bench but he wasn't coming back on anyway.

Jonathan Brown said it shouldn't be on a club to stop the play.


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Re: Dion Prestia [merged]
« Reply #1427 on: June 27, 2022, 07:35:41 PM »
Clubs should get together and start a tradition where the ball is kicked out of bounds to stop play in similar situations, a la soccer. It's utterly ridiculous that there needs to be a stop in play to halt the game.

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Re: Dion Prestia [merged]
« Reply #1428 on: June 27, 2022, 07:37:57 PM »
Totally agree the game should have been stopped. To not stop the game in such circumstances is grossly negligent.

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‘Cut the crap’: Great fumes after AFL ticks off play continuing over ‘unconscious’ Tiger Dion Prestia

Max Laughton
Fox Sports
June 27th, 2022 7:09 pm


Melbourne great Garry Lyon was left baffled by the AFL’s explanation regarding play continuing when Richmond’s Dion Prestia was concussed against Geelong.

The Tigers midfielder was collected by Cats defender Tom Stewart - in a bump likely to earn the All-Australian a month-long ban - but play continued for another two minutes as Prestia was helped off the field.

As Lyon flagged on Fox Footy’s On the Couch, that saw being kicked “over Prestia’s head” even as trainers attended to the concussed player.

“When we have a look at this sequence ... the trainer puts his hand up straight away. Play in the vicinity,” Lyon said.

“One of them is trying to work out (what’s happening), Tom Hawkins goes across (to Prestia), the play is right there. Stop it right there. You’ve still got players in the area. Ball goes back (over him).

“How they can say that’s not in danger - it’s gone over his (Prestia’s) head! We’re not making light of this, it goes over his head again. We’ve got a Richmond player and a Geelong player there again. So why didn’t they stop the game?”

As St Kilda champion Nick Riewoldt pointed out, Prestia and the trainers were in the protected area for a Tigers teammate as play continued.

“The umpire’s right there telling them to get out of the protected area. Guess what, he can’t, he’s unconscious!” Riewoldt said.

Herald Sun AFL reporter Jon Ralph said the league had ticked off the way the umpires handled the situation.

“They’ve said the umpires department is comfortable with how it played out, and that the ball moved away from the stoppage,” Ralph said on On the Couch.

Lyon interrupted to add: “No it didn’t. No it didn’t.”

Ralph continued: “They say there wasn’t a stoppage that would’ve allowed for the game to be stopped.

“That’s the AFL’s response, I thought, let’s cut the crap. Let’s go to (Richmond senior club advisor) Neil Balme.

“He says you’re right, the club was thinking about the player rather than the big picture. In hindsight we absolutely should’ve taken the stretcher out, which would’ve officially stopped the game. 20 minutes off for Prestia who was never coming back anyway.

“So he says that’s probably on us (Richmond), but all of us believe they should’ve stopped it.”

But Lyon suggested it shouldn’t be up to the club involved to work around the rules to force a stoppage of play.

And he pointed out the lack of stoppage meant Richmond was down a man, through no fault of their own, which directly led to a Geelong goal.

“Balmey’s a pragmatic, sensible man who says yeah, it’s our fault,” Lyon said.

“To try and deny culpability - the other issue is, and this is why Richmond would be reviewing it I would imagine, is for two minutes it’s 17 v 18.

“We have a look at the play here. Dion Prestia who’s obviously a midfielder, we see him being walked off the ground, but have a look through the middle of the ground - Joel Selwood was his nominal opponent (and he’s free).

“And then they’re out everywhere (leading to the Stengle goal), in a game decided by less than a goal.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-dion-prestia-concussion-tom-stewart-play-continues-richmond-vs-geelong-reaction-video-on-the-couch/news-story/575eac5482f6543d2905e144bca6cb3c

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Re: Dion Prestia [merged]
« Reply #1430 on: June 27, 2022, 08:01:24 PM »
"Tigers will know more about Prestia's outlook tomorrow after he checked in for scans".

0:43 min mark: https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1541345826160656384



ps. Dangerfield despite being president of the AFLPA is hardly a neutral voice in this matter by the way.
Dangerfield thinks it will be “yesterday’s news” in a few days. Got news for him. We won’t forget.
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Re: Dion Prestia [merged]
« Reply #1431 on: June 27, 2022, 08:07:02 PM »
I'm not sure which thing has me more steamed up - Prestia getting KO'd in such a callous way, or the umpire allowing play to continue all over the top of him without once even thinking of the injured player (and trainers in the area).  To top it off Geebung score a goal while we are a man down.  Its hard to connect the dots & say that that goal was the difference in the match (because 3 quarters later the game came down to the wire), but I will say having to find one less goal might have been a big help when we were running out of legs late in the game.  Of course having our best mid for the whole game would've made some difference too. 
That is the main reason why Geebung should lose their player for at least 6 weeks!  Let it affect them as much as this affected us!      :pray             
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Herald Sun AFL reporter Jon Ralph said the league had ticked off the way the umpires handled the situation.

“They’ve said the umpires department is comfortable with how it played out, and that the ball moved away from the stoppage,” Ralph said on On the Couch.

Lyon interrupted to add: “No it didn’t. No it didn’t.”

Ralph continued: “They say there wasn’t a stoppage that would’ve allowed for the game to be stopped.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-dion-prestia-concussion-tom-stewart-play-continues-richmond-vs-geelong-reaction-video-on-the-couch/news-story/575eac5482f6543d2905e144bca6cb3c
Oh course the AFL ticked it off. When have they not when it comes to Richmond ::).

Who cares if it compromised player and staff safety and meant a team was playing a man down for 3 minutes while benefitting the side that dished out the thug act in the first place :thumbsdown.
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Re: Dion Prestia [merged]
« Reply #1433 on: June 27, 2022, 08:30:57 PM »
But if we call for a stretcher they have to stop the game don’t they?

So maybe our own fault??

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Re: Dion Prestia [merged]
« Reply #1434 on: June 27, 2022, 10:36:12 PM »
Prestia had scans on Monday and was back at Punt Road, with Tigers sources insisting he was “fine”.

The medical report supplied by the Tigers to the tribunal panel could shape the length of Stewart’s suspension.

Source: The Age

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Re: Dion Prestia [merged]
« Reply #1435 on: June 28, 2022, 12:20:55 PM »
Mitch Cleary says Richmond docs have told him Prestia has no structural damage to his face.

https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=1014344

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AFL's Prestia call blasted as "blatantly wrong" (SEN)
« Reply #1436 on: June 28, 2022, 12:40:19 PM »
AFL’S PRESTIA CALL BLASTED AS “BLATANTLY WRONG”

By Seb Mottram
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28 June 2022


The AFL has ticked off the umpires’ handling of Dion Prestia’s concussion on Saturday afternoon.

Play continued for a further two minutes after Prestia was collected by Tom Stewart, with the Richmond star struggling to get to his feet and leaning on trainers in confronting scenes.

The Tigers did not call for the stretcher – senior advisor Neil Balme later admitting to Fox Footy that was a mistake – and the umpires did not stop play, with the ball coming close to Prestia and the club doctors in the following plays.

SEN Breakfast co-hosts Garry Lyon and Tim Watson couldn’t believe the AFL didn’t admit their fault.

Lyon said: “This is what annoys me when AFL umpires come out and say, ‘no, we’ve ticked the box on Prestia, there was no danger, we didn’t need to stop the game’, that’s just blatantly wrong.

“Why couldn’t they own up and say, ‘yeah, we got that wrong’.

“They’ve got a blatant inability to say, ‘we got that wrong’.”

Watson added: “At the time… you’re thinking, ‘why isn’t there a common-sense rule being applied here’.

“You’ve got a bloke there who’s in the hands of the trainer… I know (Richmond) took a little bit of heat and said it was (their) fault, but they were down a player, it wasn't to their advantage.”

Kane Cornes shared a slightly different view on SEN’s Whateley, suggesting Richmond should also accept some fault.

If the Tigers had called for the stretcher then Prestia would have been ruled out for the game, although Balme admitted it was clear the 29-year-old was never going to return to the field.

“Richmond in hindsight should have called for the stretcher and stopped the game because he was on the other side of the ground,” he said on SEN’S Whateley.

“I reckon if you ask them and their medical team, they also made a mistake.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/28/afls-prestia-call-blasted-as-blatantly-wrong/

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Re: Dion Prestia [merged]
« Reply #1437 on: June 28, 2022, 06:13:02 PM »
NO FRACTURE

AFL confirms that Richmond has provided a subsequent CT scan to the match-day assessment of Dion Prestia and confirmed that no fracture of the cheek was present.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/789194/follow-it-live-stewart-facing-the-tribunal-now

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Re: Dion Prestia [merged]
« Reply #1438 on: June 28, 2022, 06:28:14 PM »
Surprise, surprise, Stewart wants his “remorse” considered. It’s going to be 3 weeks. Take it to the bank.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Jack Riewoldt on AFL360 last night said he repeatedly asked the umpires to stop the game but they just ignored him.

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‘Really didn’t like that’: Tigers gun recounts ‘stop the game’ pleas after star teammate’s concussion

David Zita
Fox Sports
June 28th, 2022 9:47 pm


Richmond star Jack Riewoldt believes play should’ve been stopped more quickly in the aftermath of Dion Prestia’s concussion during Saturday’s blockbuster against Geelong.

As medical staff convened around Prestia, play continued to resume, with the Fox Footy commentary team baffled at the continuation, which eventually resulted in a goal to Cats forward Tyson Stengle.

“I was screaming at the umpires, I think there was probably a few of us saying ‘stop the game’ because clearly he was knocked out,” Riewoldt said on AFL 360.

“I’m a bit flat about the minute-and-a-half of play after this; there were multiple times to stop the game. Blokes are kicking the ball over the top of him and the doctors. I thought that could’ve been handled a lot better.

“It’s the duty of care ... you’ve got three medical people looking over a player that’s knocked out in the vicinity of play in the protected zone - it could’ve nearly been 50 metres, he was in the protected zone - and we continued to play that game.

“From a safety point of view I really didn’t like that.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-news-2022-tom-stewart-hit-dion-prestia-concussion-why-didnt-umpires-stop-the-game-jack-riewoldt-interview-video-richmond-vs-geelong/news-story/eea1bd5fe9b9eddc1010b22196adb3ba