they need defenders it would take pick 9 and rance for tyson and their pick 24 a pick they are unlikely to use anyway.
Rance and pick 9. Might as well throw in Cotchin while you are at it. I am glad you are not in charge of our trading. We would have nothing left inside a couple of years.
If they want a defender, give them Post or Griffiths and 9 for Tyson and 24.
I agree with Al's comments. Isn't this draft supposed to be stronger than previous years? I wouldn't get too carried away rating GWS development. Getting thrashed every week isn't a great way to develop footballers. The year he has spent there has probably been detrimental to his development.
im just stating what it will cost to get dom tyson. while i agree they rate rance for some reason and wont offer him up it will take a player of rances rating if you like plus pick 9.
tyson is not a pick 9 hes a pick 3 an absolute stand out and would be in this yrs draft as well. if not rance swap him for a player like vickery it will cost to get the deal done.
you are talking potentially the likes of martin or cotchin. just a few high quality players like cotchin carried us on their shoulders this yr just imagine another.we passed on pick 6 and pick 14 to get martin dom tyson is rated just as highly by many. this should give you an idea of what it will cost.
alex rance while a decent player is the most over rated richmond player ive seen.yes he can play but hes no star.
with chaplin coming a better defender imo who some people dont rate, and if we took someone like lee and rookied a mature kpd like hartigan we would not miss rance. imo we need to add chaplin lee and hartigan or similar even if we keep rance.
i dont get the love for him. constantly misjudges balls in the air. when he has to go one on one is regularly beaten. is always out of position and constantly falls over.
his footskills are average though he now makes better decisions and its become reliable. again hes no star hes decent.
he had so many goals kicked on him for a reason. the club for the last two yrs is chasing hard a big bodied deep defender for a reason.
for these reasons and more i think hes expendable he has true trade value and would maybe get the deal done. on that im not sure if sheedy would want rance.if mugs like me can see his deficiencies experts sure can. also i know we cshould not be trading away defenders and one of our better ones to do such a thing the player you are after would need to be high quality and imo tyson is that but hes unproven that is the risk with him i suppose.
if anybody here had watched alex as a junior they would know he was only average in the air and his strength was his running game. that has not changed and is unlikely to change.
he provides great run is almost kamikaze in his attack on the ball both on the ground and in the air he has become a reliable kick in the main. but he misjudges and makes far too many mistakes in amongst the good he does do.
finally in rating rance against other FB i have him well down the pecking order and because of his deficiencies i dont see a huge scope for improvement as a fb hes at his ceiling imo. he cant get anymore desperate than he is and that is just not enough.
for me to rate rance higher he will have to improve his areas of weakness not sure thats going to happen.. i can see him playing well as a hb and playing to his strengths hes no mug and worth keeping have never said different.
just my opinion on the bloke and just stating what it will take to get such a high quality player as tyson.
quality costs and it usually comes where both parties are happy with the trade. who in their right mind would think gws would be happy with pick 9 and a list of outright duds to choose from.
for what its worth i cant see tyson at richmond. i dont think we are in a position to be trading out of the few decent players we have we need to be adding to them. tyson type trades are really for when we have actually built the list and have some depth imo but for a player of such quality or potential quality you have to give it serious consideration.
