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« Reply #1110 on: May 28, 2018, 05:10:43 PM »
Wasn’t there a goal review against us that was clearly a point and they pressed the wrong button and awarded a goal? 

It’s like the whole system goes pair shaped when it’s our game.

They must have Ol’ Betamax Jackson pressing he buttons.  :rollin
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1111 on: May 28, 2018, 05:26:02 PM »
[smasha]No coincidence the first ever free kick for a deliberate rushed behind was awarded against us too.... :shh[/smasha]
Thanks smasha.  :lol
And cost us the game. Drew with the Saints that night, in 2011.

Disgrace.

Dont forget Richos match winning goal in 2007 being taken off him in the dreamtime match by the new "hands in the back" interpretation first being implemented.

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« Reply #1112 on: May 28, 2018, 05:27:32 PM »
Official complaint should be lodged by the club.
imagine if we miss out on top 4 by 0.05%..... :shh
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« Reply #1113 on: May 28, 2018, 10:20:25 PM »

Richmond legend Matthew Richardson jokingly said goal umpires were becoming irrelevant because their decisions were rarely upheld.


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« Reply #1114 on: May 28, 2018, 11:22:16 PM »
Only thing more embarrassing then the decision to overturn the goal, was hocking saying yesterday we weren’t robbed of a goal and saying they’d release the footage to the public during the week only to then come out today and say it actually was an incorrect decision  :wallywink.

Bloody clowns, this goal review has been nothing but a complete failure and you only have to listen to the crowds reaction every time the umpire motions for it for proof. And why oh why do the goal umpires request for the goal to be reviewed in the first place when we are told at every opportunity that every goal gets reviewed on the way back to the bounce anyway. Shambles.

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« Reply #1115 on: May 28, 2018, 11:27:53 PM »
Only thing more embarrassing then the decision to overturn the goal, was hocking saying yesterday we weren’t robbed of a goal and saying they’d release the footage to the public during the week only to then come out today and say it actually was an incorrect decision  :wallywink.

Bloody clowns, this goal review has been nothing but a complete failure and you only have to listen to the crowds reaction every time the umpire motions for it for proof. And why oh why do the goal umpires request for the goal to be reviewed in the first place when we are told at every opportunity that every goal gets reviewed on the way back to the bounce anyway. Shambles.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1116 on: May 29, 2018, 03:09:52 AM »
AFL admits error on Tigers' score review

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May 28, 2018 4:45PM


THE AFL has admitted it made a blunder with its score review technology that cost Richmond a goal in its win over St Kilda on Saturday.

The League added the Tigers had been on the wrong end of a run of score reviews so far this year.

The latest controversy surrounded a shot by young Tiger Jack Higgins in the third term of Richmond's clash. His kick was at first called a goal by the goal umpire before it was reviewed and ruled a behind, despite replays not conclusively showing it was touched before it passed the goal line.

Football operations manager Steve Hocking on Monday said the score review had erred in overturning the original call of a goal, as there had not been sufficient evidence to rule it a behind.

Hocking said the score reviewers were instructed to make quick decisions but that the wrong one had been made on the weekend.

"I would repeat again that the overall mechanics of the score review system are good for the game in correcting errors and ensuring against wrong decisions, with some 29 reviews this season reaching a decision that corrected an original error," Hocking said.

"That said, when an overrule decision is made that is incorrect or confusing for fans, such as the decision in Saturday's game, all of that good work is quickly undone and clubs, players and fans will lose faith in the process of going to a score review.

"It will continue to be educated to the review staff as the highest priority that when it comes to an over-rule the vision must be beyond reasonable doubt, or to revert to the original decision made by the umpire on-field."

Higgins' non-goal drew a fierce reaction from Richmond coach Damien Hardwick, who labelled the score review system an "embarrassment" after the game.

"He's called a goal. We're asked to trust and respect the umpires, how about the we back the goal umpire in and then we go back to the centre? And if you haven't figured it out by that stage just let the game go. Momentum in sport is a wonderful thing," Hardwick said.

"I sit there and I still don't know how it got turned over. Seriously, it's an embarrassment to our game. I reckon it really is. The technology is deplorable."

The AFL said the Tigers had been unlucky in score reviews throughout the season.

"The Richmond Football Club has had score reviews in its games in the first part of the season that the AFL acknowledges were not performed to the expected standard. The AFL will continue to coach and educate the staff involved around what is expected in their roles," Hocking said.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-28/afl-admits-error-on-tigers-score-review

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1117 on: May 29, 2018, 03:45:08 AM »
In other words, the AFL has admitted they've continually shafted us and cost us goals and momentum in games this year ::).

Monsieur Myop and Mr Magoo clearly doing the video score review at Richmond games  ::).

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1118 on: May 29, 2018, 06:48:23 AM »


"The Richmond Football Club has had score reviews in its games in the first part of the season that the AFL acknowledges were not performed to the expected standard. The AFL will continue to coach and educate the staff involved around what is expected in their roles," Hocking said
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-28/afl-admits-error-on-tigers-score-review

What is their "expected standard" exactly?

I don't think they have any standard they want to adhere to at all - they've stuffed this up. It's been a farce from the moment it was introduced

get rid if it


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« Reply #1119 on: June 02, 2018, 03:39:40 AM »
Damian Barrett Says The Official Who Did The Jack Higgins Score Review No Longer Works For The AFL

On the Friday Huddle
Rudi Edsall
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2 June 2018


Triple M Footy news breaker Damian Barrett has said that the the official who was responsible for last weekend’s disastrous score review in the Richmond v St Kilda game no longer works for the AFL.

Jack Higgins kicked what looked like a goal in the Tigers’ win over St Kilda last week, but a score review overturned the decision.

The AFL’s head of football operations Steve Hocking initially backed the call, before the league conceded that they got it wrong earlier this week.

On the Friday Huddle tonight, Damo said that the person responsible for the call no longer works for the AFL.

https://www.triplem.com.au/sport/afl/news/damian-barrett-says-the-official-who-did-the-jack-higgins-score-review-no-longer-works-for-the-afl
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1120 on: June 02, 2018, 12:10:27 PM »
Wasn’t there a goal review against us that was clearly a point and they pressed the wrong button and awarded a goal? 

It’s like the whole system goes pair shaped when it’s our game.

They must have Ol’ Betamax Jackson pressing he buttons.  :rollin

Yeah, good ol Betamax.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1121 on: June 02, 2018, 03:29:37 PM »
Oh ffs, let's not start getting all rose coloured revisionist and sentimental about Hackson now.... ::)
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1122 on: June 02, 2018, 03:33:55 PM »
Based on the games so far this round, get ready tonight for the game being over-umpired with 50m penalties galore :help. The Hawks vs Port match has had 8 of them in only one-half  :o.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1123 on: June 02, 2018, 06:47:31 PM »
Wasn’t there a goal review against us that was clearly a point and they pressed the wrong button and awarded a goal? 

It’s like the whole system goes pair shaped when it’s our game.

They must have Ol’ Betamax Jackson pressing he buttons.  :rollin

Yeah, good ol Betamax.
Recruited most of the premiership team last year with little or no support for the first 5 years
I call rubbish to that. He is rubbish and if he is so good why isn’t he still doing the job? You are greatly mistaken.
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« Reply #1124 on: June 02, 2018, 07:00:50 PM »
Good, bad or indifferent, he still recruited the majority of our premiership team. No one can take that away from him.
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