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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2014, 07:46:39 PM »
Trout saying Vickery could miss 4 weeks???
Was that from broken ribs when the ball bounced off his chest?
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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #76 on: March 17, 2014, 07:46:52 PM »
If Vickery is lame then he should be put down.

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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #77 on: March 17, 2014, 07:50:24 PM »
If Vickery is lame then he should be put down.
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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #78 on: March 17, 2014, 07:58:16 PM »
Maric mcbean Elton is that not three options
are you seriously expecting the bean pole that mcbean is to hold down a kp.
maric is a ruckman and is not in contention for vickerys spot.
elton is the only viable/realistic kpf in the wings and like mcbean common sense would be to ask if hes ready for the role. not imo. but hey ready or not perhaps hed give more than vickery has.

 effectively there is no viable replacement for vickery unless,  we play griffiths in the role,   play hampson as a ruck/for and bring in orren  as the starting ruckman.
atm unless players jump out of their skins with improvement the cupboard is bare. i say again we have numbers but we just dont have the quality or development within those numbers.




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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #79 on: March 17, 2014, 08:01:46 PM »
Out:
Vickery (if injured)
Hampson (if injured)
Cotchin (if injured)
Petterd
Grigg

In:
Elton
Stephenson
Jackson (if available)
Arnot
Knights

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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #80 on: March 17, 2014, 10:50:33 PM »
Maric mcbean Elton is that not three options
are you seriously expecting the bean pole that mcbean is to hold down a kp.
maric is a ruckman and is not in contention for vickerys spot.
elton is the only viable/realistic kpf in the wings and like mcbean common sense would be to ask if hes ready for the role. not imo. but hey ready or not perhaps hed give more than vickery has.

 effectively there is no viable replacement for vickery unless,  we play griffiths in the role,   play hampson as a ruck/for and bring in orren  as the starting ruckman.
atm unless players jump out of their skins with improvement the cupboard is bare. i say again we have numbers but we just dont have the quality or development within those numbers.

When Maric fit - could play Ivan fwd - beaner 4th tall

Or play jack + griff only two kPp. And a 200cm flanker

Elton would non worse tyrone last dig

If Hampson is going to be in the 21 - Maric must play forward a lot

Sadly it is unrealistic to expect a 25 year old, 200cm, former top ten draft pick kPp to just be waiting in the twos for jack or Tyrone to have a bad game

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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2014, 09:07:09 AM »
lets hope there not correct with the injuries... To some degree I thought hampson started to get on top in that last qrt and was hitting to our advantage I think he may be ok....
 if we were to make changes id be starting foley on the ground next week we need some pace as clearly it was shown we lacked it on the weekend....
knights in not sure we get pace from him??? I have a feeling he may bring king in as much as I feel he may struggle this year we certainly lacked some crummers in the forward line on the weekend...
its just a pitty miles wasn't upgraded he would have been handy I reckon...
PAttard may struggle he was very slow.

Walker looks to except the one week which is good for us....

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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #82 on: March 18, 2014, 08:51:02 PM »
Maric mcbean Elton is that not three options
are you seriously expecting the bean pole that mcbean is to hold down a kp.
maric is a ruckman and is not in contention for vickerys spot.
elton is the only viable/realistic kpf in the wings and like mcbean common sense would be to ask if hes ready for the role. not imo. but hey ready or not perhaps hed give more than vickery has.

 effectively there is no viable replacement for vickery unless,  we play griffiths in the role,   play hampson as a ruck/for and bring in orren  as the starting ruckman.
atm unless players jump out of their skins with improvement the cupboard is bare. i say again we have numbers but we just dont have the quality or development within those numbers.

1/ When Maric fit - could play Ivan fwd - beaner 4th tall. when ivans fit he is by a country mile the best ruckman we have. he will play predominately in the ruck and rightly so wit

2/ Or play jack + griff only two kPp. And a 200cm flanker

3/ Elton would non worse tyrone last dig

4/ If Hampson is going to be in the 21 - Maric must play forward a lot

5/ Sadly it is unrealistic to expect a 25 year old, 200cm, former top ten draft pick kPp to just be waiting in the twos for jack or Tyrone to have a bad game
1/ when ivan is fit he will play ruck. no if or buts about it. when fit hes a country mile in front of any other ruckman we have.
2/ so you play griff and jack as permanent kpfs and mcbean as a flanker  which one goes into the ruck to help ivan or until ivan is fit hampson. so in a way you agree mcbean is not ready to play kpf but are willing to leave us with only one kpf throughout games.
you do realise the whole idea of getting hampson was to address this very issue allowing vickery to play permanently forward so we dont lose structure.
3/ your right elton would be no worse than vickery my granny would be no worse. that doesnt mean hes capable of holding down chf for us.
4/ mate hampson will be in the 21 with or without maric there. hampson will spend significant time forward  when ivan is fit not the other way around. these are  the reasons we got him 1/ not to lose too much in the ruck  when ivan has a rest. 2/ to allow vickery or another tall to play permanently forward to maintain structure throughout a game with jack. these are  the reason why we got hampson.
5/ i have to ask who the hell are you talking about, we dont have a 25yo former top 10 draft pick kpp on the list waiting in the wings for injury. we dont have one kpp who looks remotely like being able to force riewoldt or vickery out as bad as they have been at times yet alone a ready to go 25yr old. ffs lets get him in the team quick smart.

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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2014, 01:01:26 PM »
How many mins or game perecentage will ivan play forward when fit and Hampson in the 21 ?

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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2014, 04:28:58 PM »
King, A Edwards & Knights should come in for McD, Foley & Petterd

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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2014, 07:07:54 PM »
King, A Edwards & Knights should come in for McD, Foley & Petterd

Nit that I disagree with the ins, but they're all fwds and your replacing 2 backs and a mid?
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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #86 on: March 19, 2014, 07:30:04 PM »
Can anyone confirm Cotchins injury?
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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2014, 08:06:24 PM »
Can anyone confirm Cotchins injury?

Not on the injury list pope....... :-\

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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2014, 09:07:40 PM »
Can anyone confirm Cotchins injury?

What injury?

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Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2014, 09:42:59 PM »
How many mins or game perecentage will ivan play forward when fit and Hampson in the 21 ?
how the hell do i know.
if i took a guess id say a fit maric would spend 60% ruck. 20% forward 20% bench
hampson would go 40% ruck 40% forwrd 20% bench. it aint hard to do. maintain a decent ruck presence maintain the third tall forward while giving both a decent break thru out.
i ask again you do understand the reasons behind why we got hampson. you do have an understanding of exactly what ivan brings to the table as a ruckman. if you asked me  id say not.