Angus Graham [merged]

[Jackstar is back]

what to expect ? Expect to be traded

[Danog]

"We've had a little taste of the preseason and that was OK."

Hm?

[jackstar is back again]

Last night we had 156 kicks, 139 handballs ,76 marks and 61 tackles
Angus contributed 3 handballs and 1 tackle ( if you could call it a tackle-more like a slap )
Angus is not up to AFL standards and will never be any good.
We need a ruckman who can take a contested mark and drift back into D 50 to assist others, he just stands in the middle of the ground and contibutes NOTHING.
Have a good look at other ruckman in the AFL , they take contested marks, assist fellow players in D 50 and actually push forwardand kick a goal, we get nothing out of this bloke.
Wouldnt you love to have a Ryder, Hille  type player at Richmond.

[TigerTimeII]

well at this stage we have no ruckman, thats why snake wasnt delisted
gus needs to to be more effective an duse his size more, i doubt he will last

[jackstar is back again]

well at this stage we have no ruckman, thats why snake wasnt delisted
gus needs to to be more effective an duse his size more, i doubt he will last

Angus has been in the system for long enough, he will ensure Coburg is competitive in 2010,

[eliminator]

Vickery is the future

[Gigantor]

Very awkward looking footballer....Hope he makes it but doubt it at this stage

[Ramps]

Vickery is the future

Yep

[jackstar is back again]

We need a ruckman who is going to contribute around the ground, not just stand there with the hands on there hips all night.
If you cant get involved in the game, you aint any good.

[Ramps]

Simmonds Vickery Browne are the options IMHO. Angus has had long enough unfortunately he hasnt shown enough.

[Hellenic Tiger]

Our ruck stocks are thin.

Need to play Vickery there and try Browne at senior level for a few weeks. See which one will be worth perservering with.

Simmonds will retire at the end of the year and one of Browne or Graham will be gone possibly both if they can't cut it.

If indeed as a side we do rise up the ladder the last thing we would need is have a good side with a decent ruckman short ala St Kilda in 2004-05 and cost the club in hindsight a genuine crack at a flag. Need to address this now.

[Stripes]

We may have to trade for a more senior ruck option but without giving up critical draft picks this will be a fairly fruitless exercise. Rucks take years to develop. Maybe Gus or Browne will step up, who knows   

[Infamy]

Since when was he meant to be a world beater?
Hille is 29 years old this year, Ryder was Pick 7 in the 2005 draft, Graham was a rookie pick in the 2005 rookie draft
Its a disgrace that he needs to be our #1 ruckman, not that he isn't at the same level as elite juniors
If he can play like he did against North Melbourne last year then he'll be fine.

[tiga]

Maybe we needed a ready made like Jolly after all...

[Infamy]

Maybe we needed a ready made like Jolly after all...

Not for the draft picks it would cost us
Stop wanting to take short cuts, its what got us where we are in the first place