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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #75 on: October 05, 2022, 01:00:41 PM »
Separate question but related to the Hopper discussion as GWS have said they are considering him ...

What would Soldo be worth alone in a trade on the open market?

A third rounder like Nank was?

A second rounder like CCJ was? [Thanks Norf]  ;D
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #76 on: October 05, 2022, 01:32:50 PM »
Lol why would we give up 12 & 19 on the very first day if we didn’t have some sort of understanding with gws that what we had left would be enough to satisfy them? Otherwise we would have kept them and tried to manoeuvre with other clubs to improve/add to those picks to give us more assets to trade.

Media just filling in time until the trade happens.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #77 on: October 05, 2022, 02:43:15 PM »
"If a Hopper deal isn't reached, could they look to keep him and sacrifice salary cap space elsewhere? I understand the Giants would be open to conversations on Lachie Whitfield and Nick Haynes. The Giants want more off the Tigers for Hopper.

- @CalTwomey

https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1577470386396332032
Here's the Twomey discussion.

Asked if St Kilda or Hawthorn with salary cap space jump in to poach someone else off GWS.

Watch here: https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1577491011802202115

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"Lachie Whitfield is not going anywhere, so there won't be any movement there."

"In an ideal world, I think GWS would like to move Nick Haynes on as part of their reset."

Sam Edmund on Lachie Whitfield and Nick Haynes

https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1577494335406604288

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #78 on: October 05, 2022, 05:14:44 PM »
Apparently, Damian Barrett on Trade Radio this arvo said he's hearing the deal will be our Future 1st plus Soldo.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #79 on: October 05, 2022, 05:39:35 PM »
Apparently, Damian Barrett on Trade Radio this arvo said he's hearing the deal will be our Future 1st plus Soldo.

That would be a significant win

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #80 on: October 05, 2022, 05:42:11 PM »
That’s fair , hopper has proved he will be an A grader yet

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #81 on: October 05, 2022, 05:51:56 PM »
2 years we will be out of the first round through unless we have something planned not great.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #82 on: October 05, 2022, 05:53:49 PM »
Apparently, Damian Barrett on Trade Radio this arvo said he's hearing the deal will be our Future 1st plus Soldo.
really, any links ?

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #83 on: October 05, 2022, 05:56:52 PM »
2 years we will be out of the first round through unless we have something planned not great.

Taranto and Hopper are SIGNIFICANT ins

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #84 on: October 05, 2022, 05:58:25 PM »
Guys, we could have drafted another RCD or Cellis with these picks!!...


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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #85 on: October 05, 2022, 06:04:37 PM »
Guys, we could have drafted another RCD or Cellis with these picks!!...

Yep
Plenty of other misses as well

Worked out ok getting Prestia

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #86 on: October 05, 2022, 06:24:48 PM »
Apparently, Damian Barrett on Trade Radio this arvo said he's hearing the deal will be our Future 1st plus Soldo.
really, any links ?
n.b. I did say "apparently" as it was second hand info.

Quote from: fargothegreat
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It's going to be a future first + Soldo - seems painfully obvious now.
Barrett just said on Trade Radio that's he's hearing the deal will be exactly that.

I wouldn't call him a reliable source though.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #87 on: October 05, 2022, 06:28:34 PM »
If that is true it's a bargain. Our future first will likely be around 16-20 and I no longer rate Soldo since his injury. Watching him live against Collingwood last season was particularly painful.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #88 on: October 05, 2022, 08:24:49 PM »
2 years we will be out of the first round through unless we have something planned not great.

I think we might be planning on winning another premiership  ;D
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #89 on: October 05, 2022, 08:36:19 PM »
Am i correct in assuming we only have pick 30 left in the ND?
Scares the bejeezus out of me when we totally ignore drafts. And if a Future 1st and pick 30 plus a ruckman is what they want then we not only knock depth around but indeed virtually ignore the ND.

Look at our last four ND.
2018 pick 20 then pick 43, Atm pick 20 looks a bust. its hardly an early pick anyway.
2019 pick 21 then pick 43 atm pick 21 looks doubtful.Again 21 is hardly a real early pick.
2020 Pick 40 then pick 51.
2021 pick 9, 17, Both these picks already look like great picks for us yet here we are already trading out similar picks.
2022 ???? atm just pick 30 and we most likely going to trade it leaving virtually no picks and taking us out of the early part of 2023 as well.

Yep im concerned you ignore the ND at your long term peril.
In saying all that if Hopper does get to us well hes a good player and id be happy to have him but is it the right way to go.

In all honesty what is Hopper worth. Yes a type we need and he would give us that badly needed depth in big inside players that we have lacked but we have Taranto. Are  his numbers worth what we are going to have to give up. He is a good player but to have no nd picks this year and not have at the very least a first rounder next year is playing with fire

As one who has been screaming for bigger good mids um one who is torn by this. In so many ways id rather we ignore this trade and use ordinary blokes like Soldo to get back into the draft where we can Target say a young KPF!!! and a big bodied type like hopper.

Next year a midfield of Taranto, Prestia, Bolton, Sonsie, with the two old boys in Cotchin and Dusty is nothing to be sneezed at.