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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #870 on: September 09, 2018, 09:41:11 AM »
Is McGovern going to Carlton. Ignore this Baloon Head, Carlton hatred for Richmond

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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #871 on: September 09, 2018, 09:49:56 AM »
Tanking for priority picks good, FA bad apparently.
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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #872 on: September 09, 2018, 09:52:44 AM »
Mark Maclure on Tom Lynch:

Our system is wrong, the AFL needs to do something about it. Free agency was for player movement not to help the reigning premier win more premierships

https://twitter.com/abcgrandstand/status/1037625711199059968

Tom Lynch to Richmond is player movement. He isn't a prize for finishing on top of the ladder, he wants to come to us.

There were 3 teams, all top 4, everyone knew this. Why not furore then? One top 4 side was going to get Lynch, but it's only unfair for us to get him?
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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #873 on: September 09, 2018, 03:40:42 PM »
A bit rich coming from a Buy-a-Flag Blues flog..... :shh
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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #874 on: September 09, 2018, 04:30:16 PM »
A bit rich coming from a Buy-a-Flag Blues flog..... :shh

But lets not let history stand in the way of a good whinge.

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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #875 on: September 09, 2018, 06:16:16 PM »
Didnt hear any complaining when we got the golden Yarran trade.

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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #876 on: September 09, 2018, 06:53:03 PM »
Didnt hear any complaining when we got the golden Yarran trade.

Or the ruckman of the Century in Hammer

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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #877 on: September 09, 2018, 06:56:51 PM »
I've changed my view on Lynch now.

Anyone that whinges about him coming to us doesn't care about equalisation or the competition, they just hate Richmond and can't handle it that we're the biggest destination club in the league.

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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #878 on: September 09, 2018, 07:02:33 PM »
The AFL Rover's rant: Free agency is free for all, so stop the whingeing.

Tom Lynch's likely move to Richmond has everyone crying foul, but only when it suits them.

Now that Tom Lynch has unofficially-officially declared Richmond as his next home, the only thing left to complete the year-long saga is the inevitable carry-one from all angles over the fairness of the free agency system.


Or the unfairness.

Lynch hasn’t actually nominated a club yet, but there’s already many saying star players shouldn’t be allowed to go to good clubs.

Why this has waited till now is confusing, considering the star forward has been juggling Richmond, Hawthorn and Collingwood – arguably the three strongest clubs in the land – for the past four months.

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“Should last year’s premier and possibly this year’s premiers be able to pick up one of the best players in the competition under free agency, is that the system that we want?” Mark Robinson asked on Fox Footy’s AFL 360 on Wednesday night.

“It’s not how free agency was conceived, it’s not how it was sold and not how it was implemented,” Gerard Whateley added.

“How Tom Lynch can leave the Gold Coast Suns for a team like the Richmond Football Club in free agency just isn’t fair,” Kane Cornes told FIVEaa’s Sportsday SA program.

Cornes cranked it up further – as Kane Cornes is wont to do – on Friday morning when he told SEN free agency is a “farce” and that it “threatens the integrity of the competition”.

And on and on and on it goes.

Of course good players want to go to good clubs. Bad players want to go to good clubs too, but the love and desire doesn’t tend to be reciprocated.

What do Cornes and Robinson and Whateley suggest be done instead?

We’ve got a salary cap, we’ve got a soft cap on off-field spending, we’ve got a draft system designed to reward the mediocre, we’ve got compensation picks, we’ve got priority picks, we’ve got a fixture based on the previous year’s ladder positions.

Do they suggest players get a rating from one to 788, and the bottom quarter can only move to top-four clubs, while the best 197 are restricted to trading to cellar dwellers.

Even better, they’re forcibly moved to struggling sides.

Why not deregister every player at the end of every season, put them all back in the pool and do one almighty, week-long draft.

On live TV.

And everyone gets paid the same amount, and all the names go into a hat and when Bang and Olufsen or Toyota or Kelvinator or Glenelg IGA want a fancy AFL footballer to do a product endorsement they do a lucky dip and hope they get Dustin Martin rather than Cam Ellis-Yolmen.



Maybe the mish-mash of new rule changes should be applied depending on ladder positions: last year’s wooden spooner can have starting line-ups in whatever position they please and eight men up in the ruck if it takes their fancy, while the reigning premier is restricted to zones not just for the starting bounce, but throughout the game.

And there’s a little 4 x 4 box in the forward pocket where Dustin Martin and Paddy Dangerfield have to stay.

It’s not a fair and even playing field and the truth is the advantages generally lie with the struggling clubs.

Use the draft and the salary cap to your advantage and establish a winning culture – all of a sudden there’ll be big names on the phone. Get good administrators that know a smart buy and before you know it there’ll be more managers at the door asking about next year’s opportunities.

No one argued against the fairness of the system when Gary Ablett went to Gold Coast, Dayne Beams to Brisbane, Tom Boyd to the Bulldogs or Buddy to the Swans.

Well, we might have had a bit of a cry about Franklin, but then he was going to the one club that had an extra million to spend.

Are Robinson and Whateley and everyone else with a microphone going to complain when Andrew Gaff signs at super-club St Kilda?

No.

But then I don’t recall Cornes kicking up a fuss when his alma mater brought two-time Lions best and fairest winner Tom Rockliff across from the wooden spoon winning Brisbane as a free agent.

Strange that.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/the-afl-rovers-rant-free-agency-is-free-for-all-so-stop-the/kwparibtj0g61mgp1vp8ehr7k


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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #879 on: September 09, 2018, 07:42:03 PM »
Massive tears FMD

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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #880 on: September 09, 2018, 08:16:39 PM »
Last year was the best, but I want this BAD

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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #881 on: September 09, 2018, 08:28:40 PM »
To be honest I’m getting sick of the peeing and morning about our club. We have worked hard to get into this position and it’s basically taken 37 years and now every idiot with a microphone is saying how unfair it is that we might get a free hit.

Eventually our run will be over and FA will want to go elsewhere and we will have to work even harder to turn things around again.

This is a competition, why do the better clubs have to bend over to just because the crap teams haven’t got their poo together??

The salary cap is the equaliser IMO, all clubs get to spend the same amount, so clubs can spend it how they like and on who they like.

What I don’t actually like about FA is the compo pick. I cannot understand how all other clubs get disadvantaged by going down the draft order when the compo pick gets added.

You need to create an environment where people want to come but just as importantly, players want to stay.

Like the article says, we continually rewards the unsuccessful teams.

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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #882 on: September 09, 2018, 08:54:21 PM »
I personally don't like Free Agency.

I was against it when it was introduced, and my opinion hasn't changed. I have always felt that FA is not for the betterment of anyone except a very few superstar players.

I assume the big name Free Agents are almost certainly going to join stronger clubs because for the greater majority, the decision does not seem to be about money. It is about chasing some success.

Most of the gun players at successful clubs seem prepared to take unders to stay where they are, particularly where the culture is strong. The gun players at poorer clubs are hardly likely to go to another struggling club, even for more money.

So what does that leave. The odd player like Polec who gets an offer way out of proportion to what the are probably worth, and it could be argued he is going to a club looking for some success as well.


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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #883 on: September 09, 2018, 09:47:06 PM »

Mark Maclure on Tom Lynch:

Our system is wrong, the AFL needs to do something about it. Free agency was for player movement not to help the reigning premier win more premierships

https://twitter.com/abcgrandstand/status/1037625711199059968


 :huh3

Yes it is about player movement.... and last time I checked this is what this is

A player has decided to move, a move he is entitled to make under the rules of the competition. But now the rule is wrong because the player is choosing to go to a stronger successful side...

Give me a spell  :banghead

Said it the other day, this is the way FA was always going to work. Anyone who though otherwise and is shocked by this is a fool
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Re: Tom Lynch to be a Tiger [update]
« Reply #884 on: September 09, 2018, 10:16:32 PM »
I personally don't like Free Agency.

I was against it when it was introduced, and my opinion hasn't changed. I have always felt that FA is not for the betterment of anyone except a very few superstar players.

I assume the big name Free Agents are almost certainly going to join stronger clubs because for the greater majority, the decision does not seem to be about money. It is about chasing some success.

Most of the gun players at successful clubs seem prepared to take unders to stay where they are, particularly where the culture is strong. The gun players at poorer clubs are hardly likely to go to another struggling club, even for more money.

So what does that leave. The odd player like Polec who gets an offer way out of proportion to what the are probably worth, and it could be argued he is going to a club looking for some success as well.
Why is it so wrong for a player to want to play in a successful side after, like some, have been playing for a crap club?
You even said it, players will play for less money to be successful. So it obviously means more than money to some.

I understand you don’t like FA, but do you see a player asking for a trade any different if he is not eligible as a FA?
It’s player movement and nothing more!

I don’t really see what has changed this year compared to other years?