Yarran Cut from list...official

[The Machine]

Who'd want to play under hardwick.

Blame that stuffn loser

Not to mention the other liars at the club like Gale.
Told the members at the AGM last year that Yarran's payout was in last years TPP and he was not on the list for 2017.
Both LIES.
He is on the list for 2017 and as such cannot be paid out in last years TPP.

While the figures remain confidential they can LIE as much as they like and get away with it.
Good governance? What a joke.

Move on

[taztiger4]

Who'd want to play under hardwick.

Blame that stuffn loser

Not to mention the other liars at the club like Gale.
Told the members at the AGM last year that Yarran's payout was in last years TPP and he was not on the list for 2017.
Both LIES.
He is on the list for 2017 and as such cannot be paid out in last years TPP.

While the figures remain confidential they can LIE as much as they like and get away with it.
Good governance? What a joke.

I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort

Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.

What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.

Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media

Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for October:

Thursday 6 October to Sunday 9 October – AFL Draft Combine
Friday 7 October – Free Agency Period commences
Monday 10 October – Trade Period commences
Sunday 16 October – Free Agency Period closes
Thursday 20 October – Trade Period closes
Monday 31 October – First list lodgement due
Key dates for November:

Tuesday 1 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Tuesday 8 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Wednesday 9 November – Second list lodgement due
Thursday 10 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Friday 18 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Friday 25 November – National Draft in Sydney
Monday 28 November – Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Chris who?

I was hoping to close that chapter and move on but others want to keep it simmering as if that will somehow help the club be a premiership contender.

Some people just can't let go. You need to learn to do that in life. You'll be happier for it too.

[big tone]

Who'd want to play under hardwick.

Blame that stuffn loser

Not to mention the other liars at the club like Gale.
Told the members at the AGM last year that Yarran's payout was in last years TPP and he was not on the list for 2017.
Both LIES.
He is on the list for 2017 and as such cannot be paid out in last years TPP.

While the figures remain confidential they can LIE as much as they like and get away with it.
Good governance? What a joke.

I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort

Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.

What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.

Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media

Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for October:

Thursday 6 October to Sunday 9 October – AFL Draft Combine
Friday 7 October – Free Agency Period commences
Monday 10 October – Trade Period commences
Sunday 16 October – Free Agency Period closes
Thursday 20 October – Trade Period closes
Monday 31 October – First list lodgement due
Key dates for November:

Tuesday 1 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Tuesday 8 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Wednesday 9 November – Second list lodgement due
Thursday 10 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Friday 18 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Friday 25 November – National Draft in Sydney
Monday 28 November – Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due

Why is it poor form to call someone a liar on social media?
Not trying to be smart but if you think they are lying why not say it??

[Tigeritis™ฉฎ]

Hardwick is a liar.

[(•))(ฉ™]

Who'd want to play under hardwick.

Blame that stuffn loser

Not to mention the other liars at the club like Gale.
Told the members at the AGM last year that Yarran's payout was in last years TPP and he was not on the list for 2017.
Both LIES.
He is on the list for 2017 and as such cannot be paid out in last years TPP.

While the figures remain confidential they can LIE as much as they like and get away with it.
Good governance? What a joke.

I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort

Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.

What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.

Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media

Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for October:

Thursday 6 October to Sunday 9 October – AFL Draft Combine
Friday 7 October – Free Agency Period commences
Monday 10 October – Trade Period commences
Sunday 16 October – Free Agency Period closes
Thursday 20 October – Trade Period closes
Monday 31 October – First list lodgement due
Key dates for November:

Tuesday 1 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Tuesday 8 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Wednesday 9 November – Second list lodgement due
Thursday 10 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Friday 18 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Friday 25 November – National Draft in Sydney
Monday 28 November – Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due

Why is it poor form to call someone a liar on social media?
Not trying to be smart but if you think they are lying why not say it??

It's not as bad as lying on/In social media/media

[RedanTiger]

I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort

Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.

What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.

Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media

Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for November:
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due

At the AGM a member on the far side asked whether anyone had been held responsible for the Yarran decision. Peggy dismissed the question. That member then left the AGM.
I then asked specifically whether Yarran's payout was in this year's TPP and if he would be on the list for next year (ie 2017)
As said (and I listened closely since I asked the question) Gale replied that he was paid out in 2016 and not have a place next year.

You say that you "heard nothing of the sort" so you are saying that I am lying.
Poor form or just alternative facts?

[YellowandBlackBlood]

I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort

Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.

What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.

Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media

Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for November:
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due

At the AGM a member on the far side asked whether anyone had been held responsible for the Yarran decision. Peggy dismissed the question. That member then left the AGM.
I then asked specifically whether Yarran's payout was in this year's TPP and if he would be on the list for next year (ie 2017)
As said (and I listened closely since I asked the question) Gale replied that he was paid out in 2016 and not have a place next year.

You say that you "heard nothing of the sort" so you are saying that I am lying.
Poor form or just alternative facts?

My understanding was that he has been paid out but we were unable to delist him as the last list lodgement date had passed. So maybe his payment was included in the 2016 TPP but he had to remain on the list.
If that is the case, who cares?

Move on and enjoy our 4-0 start playing attacking footy.

[taztiger4]

I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort

Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.

What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.

Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media

Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for November:
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due

At the AGM a member on the far side asked whether anyone had been held responsible for the Yarran decision. Peggy dismissed the question. That member then left the AGM.
I then asked specifically whether Yarran's payout was in this year's TPP and if he would be on the list for next year (ie 2017)
As said (and I listened closely since I asked the question) Gale replied that he was paid out in 2016 and not have a place next year.

You say that you "heard nothing of the sort" so you are saying that I am lying.
Poor form or just alternative facts?

not alternative facts at all, Balme had said a week previous to the AGM that Yarran was on the list in 2017, anyone with basic knowledge of the rules would know that to be the case , I certainly did.
Gale didnt say what you say he did, I'm not calling you a liar, maybe you misunderstood his answer.

It would appear you are attempting to rewrite history to suit an agenda ?

[taztiger4]

Who'd want to play under hardwick.

Blame that stuffn loser

Not to mention the other liars at the club like Gale.
Told the members at the AGM last year that Yarran's payout was in last years TPP and he was not on the list for 2017.
Both LIES.
He is on the list for 2017 and as such cannot be paid out in last years TPP.

While the figures remain confidential they can LIE as much as they like and get away with it.
Good governance? What a joke.

I dont know what you heard but I also was there & heard nothing of the sort

Also Balmey had made it pretty clear before the AGM, that there was NO mechanism to delist Yarran at the time as the delisting periods had passed.so pretty clear that he was on the list for 2017.

What Gale did say, was that yes there would be a payout to Yarran as part of the contract settlement, Peggy also said the same.

Also pretty poor form calling people liars on social media

Here are the dates, remember Yarran was released on the 22nd November
Key dates for October:

Thursday 6 October to Sunday 9 October – AFL Draft Combine
Friday 7 October – Free Agency Period commences
Monday 10 October – Trade Period commences
Sunday 16 October – Free Agency Period closes
Thursday 20 October – Trade Period closes
Monday 31 October – First list lodgement due
Key dates for November:

Tuesday 1 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Tuesday 8 November – First Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Wednesday 9 November – Second list lodgement due
Thursday 10 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences
Friday 18 November – Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period concludes
Friday 25 November – National Draft in Sydney
Monday 28 November – Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Wednesday 30 November – Final list lodgement due

Why is it poor form to call someone a liar on social media?
Not trying to be smart but if you think they are lying why not say it??

It's not as bad as lying on/In social media/media

Pardon ?

[RedanTiger]

My understanding was that he has been paid out but we were unable to delist him as the last list lodgement date had passed. So maybe his payment was included in the 2016 TPP but he had to remain on the list.
If that is the case, who cares?

Move on and enjoy our 4-0 start playing attacking footy.

Since Yarran is a 2017 listed player then his payments must go into the 2017 Total Player Payments.
The AFL limits club lists by both total number and Player Payments.
In the Yarran case we have given up both a list spot AND his payout for the 2017 season for NO return.

Very hard for me to move on when we could have had a contributor for the entire 2017 season, like a Rockliff.
Great that we are 4-0 but will this limit us toward the end of the season? Of course.   

[tony_montana]

My understanding was that he has been paid out but we were unable to delist him as the last list lodgement date had passed. So maybe his payment was included in the 2016 TPP but he had to remain on the list.
If that is the case, who cares?

Move on and enjoy our 4-0 start playing attacking footy.

Since Yarran is a 2017 listed player then his payments must go into the 2017 Total Player Payments.
The AFL limits club lists by both total number and Player Payments.
In the Yarran case we have given up both a list spot AND his payout for the 2017 season for NO return.

Very hard for me to move on when we could have had a contributor for the entire 2017 season, like a Rockliff.
Great that we are 4-0 but will this limit us toward the end of the season? Of course.

Not just a coincidence that the dirty prick waited till the final list lodgement date had passed before he pulled the plug.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

My understanding was that he has been paid out but we were unable to delist him as the last list lodgement date had passed. So maybe his payment was included in the 2016 TPP but he had to remain on the list.
If that is the case, who cares?

Move on and enjoy our 4-0 start playing attacking footy.

Since Yarran is a 2017 listed player then his payments must go into the 2017 Total Player Payments.
The AFL limits club lists by both total number and Player Payments.
In the Yarran case we have given up both a list spot AND his payout for the 2017 season for NO return.

Very hard for me to move on when we could have had a contributor for the entire 2017 season, like a Rockliff.
Great that we are 4-0 but will this limit us toward the end of the season? Of course.

Nothing stopping us saying his 2017 payment was $1.
They came to an agreement with a "payout" figure so I would imagine something like what I have suggested would have occurred.
On the case of Rockliff, no other club wanted him because of his "reputation". Even though he is a very good footballer, his personality allegedly may have undermined team harmony.

[WilliamPowell]

Nothing stopping us saying his 2017 payment was $1.

FWIW

They did say at the AGM and again at another function I was at where Balme was the main speaker that yes there was a "small" financial settlement but it isn't the total value of his contract, it is less than his contract

It was payment to assist him in his move back to Perth

[MintOnLamb]

COAS, wouldn't you think that the AFL would give us some wriggle room on our list on the basis of our compassionate attitude towards Chris and adherence to the AFL PLAYERS ASSOC. Code of conduct for clubs.

I know the bull had left the pen and probably Chris was trying to come good but wasn't up to it in the end.

Ultimately RFC has been disadvantaged by doing the right thing.

Perhaps we could have been given an option to select a non afl player we may have had our eye on after the trade period had closed.

We are not the only club affected by this and Chris not the only player at RFC to not play or reach their potential due to mental issues.

Any thoughts or could clubs use this as some sort of loophole?