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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 19, 2009, 04:48:30 PM
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Rumour on BF's Port board that "Farmer has been traded to tigers 2yr deal be made offical 5/10/09"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=633736&highlight=Farmer
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Mitch Who ?
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Rumour on BF's Port board that "Farmer has been traded to tigers 2yr deal be made offical 5/10/09"
yeah I saw that as well, I would think perhaps a trade for Hughes, the lad hasnt done a hell of a lot since being drafted with quite a wrap as a small defender/mid with grunt and a good kick
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Which thread is it in guys? im on the port board now but i cant find it!
I was a big fan of hopeing the tigers would draft him a couple years ago but port snared him!
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Mitch Farmer:
DOB: 4/1/1989
HT: 180cm
WT: 82kgs
"A tough an fiesty half back in the Michael Wilson mould" (from the Pre-season record that I've just found while clenaing out the study :rollin)
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Can you guys who saw the thread on ports board please post a link, i have read every page of the player trade thread and there is no thread with a title named after it!.
Cheers guys!
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I would be disapointed if we gave up a draft pick, he cant be much otherwise Port wouldn't give him up
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Oops! I've now added the BF link in the OP. Hawthorn are showing interest in Farmer as well apparently.
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/_port_images/09 player images/09_mitch_farmer_246a.jpg)
Number 13
Height 180cm
Weight 77kg
DOB 04-01-1989
Junior Clubs: Craigieburn
Recruited from: Calder Cannons, VIC
Clubs: Port Adelaide (2007 National Draft, pick 49)
AFL Debut: Round 18, 2008 v St Kilda @ Etihad Stadium
Progressed dramatically in his first season with the Power, starting the year with Sturt in the SANFL where he made a good impression and then playing three AFL games from rounds 18-20. A tough and feisty half-back in the Michael Wilson mould, he is a mid to long-term prospect, but gave an indication of his potential with 14 disposals and five marks against Carlton in round 19.
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/players/playerprofile/mitchellfarmer/tabid/8475/playerid/18343/category/senior/season/2009/selected/bio/default.aspx
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Well if we are only giving up Hughes I will take the trade with bells on!!
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Farmer fits a need we have. We have struggled to develop a small defender to take on small forwards. In his draft year Farmer was highly rated. I would do a straight trade for either Hughes or Schulz but no picks.
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I saw Farmer play in the U18 champs for Vic Metro against SA at Princes Park in 2007. In the same team as Cotch. He had an impressive game playing out of a back pocket. No real tricks but looked a natural footballer as far as reading the play, clean skills and rebounding from defence. It was a wet day so the weather suited smalls.
"Farmer - was the surprise packet today in a back pocket/small rebounding defender role. Totally dominated back there and got a heap of it."
He's small (180cm, 77kg) which would be the knock on him and has only put on a kilo in 2 years since the U18s. Not sure what Port have done development and conditioning wise. You would've thought 80kgs would be his AFL playing weight for his height.
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Could be a swap for Hughes or Schulz.
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Does anyone know why he could not crack a game in 2009 ?
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Does anyone know why he could not crack a game in 2009 ?
he's poohouse?
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This is really funny as they have said that he is a small forward at 180cm.
When I was a young fella that was a ruckman now can only manage to be a small forward.
I'm 178cm so what section would I be classed as a shrimp forward.
When I played as a kid I was a ruck rover then on the wing. And I was one of the talls then.
How times have changed.
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Does anyone know why he could not crack a game in 2009 ?
Obviously struggled this year but apparently he had some problem(s) while playing at Sturt (I don't know what they were) and he had to change SANFL clubs to South Adelaide where his form apparently picked up after the change.
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Farmer info from the Port website:
News and video
On the Rise: Mitch Farmer 10/4/2008 - http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6038/newsid/57702/default.aspx
PTV: Future Star Mitch Farmer - Sturt vs Norwood 15/6/2008 - http://bigpondvideo.com/afl/60221
Farmer looks to be a 'keeper' 4/8/2008 - http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6038/newsid/64734/default.aspx
Meet Mitch Farmer 20/4/2009 - http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/122216
PTV: SANFL action - Mitch Farmer for Sturt ressies 29/5/2009 - http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/170501
PTV: SANFL action - #15 Mitch Farmer for South Adelaide 23/7/2009 - http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/195057
2009 SANFL reports from Port's development coaches
R23: Mitch Farmer (for South v North @ Prospect) – Mitch played half back and on the ball, showing some real drive at the ball, but not consistently enough. He needs to get more of the ball to have a greater impact. He used the ball well with 7 kicks and 6 handballs.
R22: Mitch Farmer (for South v Port @ Noarlunga) – Mitch was again good playing half back and on the ball. He had 8 kicks, 5 marks, 10 handballs and a goal. He linked well moving out of defence and used the ball well. He pushed forward late in the game to kick a goal that helped the Panthers get across the line.
R21: Mitch Farmer (for South v Central @ Elizabeth) – Another good effort from Mitch, who has steadily improved since making the switch to South. Starting to win a bit more of the ball at the stoppages and providing some good rebound from defence. He finshed with 20 possessions and 4 tackles.
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images_port_promos/AS_FarmerDebut_08_news.jpg)
R20: MITCH Farmer’s move to South Adelaide is starting to reap the rewards, with the feisty defender showing speed and toughness rebounding from the Panthers’ backline and in the process winning the Cibo Glenelg SANFL Player of the Week Award for Round 20. The award is judged by Power development coaches, Darren Trevena and Stuart Cochrane, and is announced exclusively at PortAdelaideFC.com.au each week.
Cibo Glenelg SANFL Player of the Week
Mitch Farmer (for South v Eagles @ Thebarton) – An impressive game from Mitch, showing some of the speed we saw from him last year, rebounding from defence. He had 13 kicks, 6 handballs, 2 marks and 5 tackles. He worked up the ground to go inside 50 and give his teammates some scoring opportunities. He’s starting to find a nice mixture of defence and attack in his game and he’s slowly improving each week since moving to South.
R18: Mitch Farmer (for South v West @ Richmond) – Mitch worked hard in a side that was getting beaten pretty convincingly, with some good spoils in the backline. He provided some good run at times before moving to full back in the second half on a bigger opponent and did a good job. Finished with 12 possessions and 7 tackles.
R17: Mitch Farmer (for South v Norwood @ the Parade) – Mitch played on ex-Sydney player Simon Phillips and held him to just one goal. He worked hard on him and probably won his position in the end. He’s starting to get back to the level he was at towards the end of 2008.
R16: Mitch Farmer (for South v Sturt @ Noarlunga) – Probably Mitch’s best game for the year. He played down back and attacked the footy and the man hard, showing some good speed, something we haven’t really seen since lasty year. He beat his man all day, played some desperate footy – smothering and tackling – and was back closer to the level we expect of Mitch. Finished with 10 kicks, 4 marks, 4 handballs and a goal.
R15: Mitch Farmer (for South v Port @ Alberton) – A good game for Mitch after a slow start. He had 21 possessions, 5 tackles and a goal playing half back and a bit in the middle. He had some good in and under clearance work and looked very controlled down back for the Panthers.
R14: Mitch Farmer (for South v Glenelg @ the Bay) – Played half back and in the midfield and had an impact straight away when he came on. He tackled and chased hard but he needs to work on his endurance and also winning more of his own ball. Finished with 6 kicks, 5 handballs and an impressive 8 tackles.
R13: Mitch Farmer (for South v Central @ Noarlunga) – Mitch played his first league game for his new club, playing half forward and on the ball. His pressure all over the ground was good, chasing hard and applying 8 tackles. He’s still learning the structures of his new team but he regularly got to the right spots. He wasn’t always used but it was good to see he kept presenting. Finished with 1.1 and he’ll be looking to have a real impact for South for the remainder of the season.
R12: Mitch Farmer (for South reserves v Eagles reserves @ Noarlunga) – Mitch moved from Sturt to South to give himself a better opportunity to play league football and develop as a player. He played his first game for the Panthers on the weekend and impressed with 18 kicks, 6 handballs, 9 marks and 1.3 playing in the midfield and half forward. He showed some good intensity at the contest and could have topped his game off had he kicked a bit straighter.
R9: Mitch Farmer (for Sturt reserves v Norwood reserves @ the Parade) – Mitch’s best game for the year by a fair way. He played in the midfield and across the half forward stuff, collecting 14 kicks, 6 handballs and taking 12 marks, to go with a very impressive 4.1. We were really impressed with his work ethic and if he can perform like that for a couple of weeks in a row, he’ll be up playing league.
R8: Mitch Farmer (for Sturt reserves v South reserves @ Unley) – Another good game from Mitch this week, playing a bit more up forward and finishing with 3 goals to go with 16 touches and 5 marks. He was intense at the contest and if he can play another few weeks like that, he’ll be up playing league, which is where we think he should be playing considering his talent.
R7: Mitch Farmer (for Sturt reserves v Eagles reserves @ Woodville) – A 17 touch game from Mitch, and although he started slowly, he worked his way into the game and played some tough footy with some good, hard tackling. He played on the ball and at half back and had a good impact at the stoppages. Will be looking for league selection soon.
R6: Mitch Farmer (for Sturt reserves v Port reserves @ Alberton) – Mitch’s best game for the year and it really started to look like the Farmer that we saw last year. Played in the middle and up forward, he ran hard, chased hard and looked lively. He finished with 14 kicks, 7 marks, 5 handballs and 2 goals. That’s the standard we expect of him and we’ve done a bit of extra work with him in showing him how he played last year and the things he needed to change to turn his form around. It’s pleasing to see him implement those things and if he can keep up that sort of form he’ll be back in the league side sooner rather than later.
R5: Mitch Farmer (for Sturt reserves v North reserves @ Unley) – Mitch handled the ball very well in some shocking conditions. Had limited opportunities to impact the game from the half back line, but did his best to rebound from defence finishing with 13 possessions and 3 tackles.
R3:
Mitch Farmer (for Sturt reserves v West reserves @ Unley) – Mitch played a bit on the back stuff and also on ball. It was a clear improvement on last week and he’s now improving each week. He started to win a bit more of his own ball and also used the ball efficiently. If he can play four quarters of that football, he’ll be pushing for a league spot. Finished with 12 kicks, 6 marks and 5 handballs.
R2: Mitch Farmer (for Sturt reserves v Norwood reserves @ Unley) – Didn’t have a big influence in the first half but worked his way into the game in the second half when he started to win his own ball and link up well through the midfield. If he plays four quarters like that he’ll be pushing for league selection, which is where he’s capable of playing.
R1: Mitch Farmer (for Sturt reserves v Glenelg reserves @ the Bay) – Mitch played half back and wing and had 17 possessions in a solid game. He had a good influence whenever he was around the ball – going very hard at the contest – but we’d just like him to make a few more contests.
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Could be a swap for Hughes or Schulz.
Yep makes sense Tucky. A direct swap with Sarge would advantageous as he's contracted for 2010. Cleve will be delisted anyhow if he isn't traded.
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An article on Farmer from two months ago. Has he changed his mind since?
Farmer playing for his career
22 Jul 09 by Reece Homfray
POWER-listed midfielder Mitch Farmer says he is playing to save his AFL career after switching SANFL clubs mid-season.
After starring for Sturt and playing three AFL games with Port Adelaide last year, Farmer walked out on the Double Blues to join South Adelaide last month.
He requested a transfer after spending the first three months of the season in Sturt’s Reserves side.
The 20-year-old is out of contact with the Power at the end of the year and is desperate to remain with the club.
``I definitely want to stay at Port,’’ he said.
``It’s a great club and there’s a lot of guys coming through together.
``I want to prove a point that me changing (from Sturt to South) was for the better.’’
The No.49 pick from the Calder Cannons in the 2007 National Draft played against his old Sturt teammates for the first time on Saturday and said there were no ill-feelings.
``The main thing was that if I wanted to pursue an AFL career, I had to play League,’’ Farmer said.
``It was hard (leaving Sturt) because they’re all a great bunch of guys.
``And there’s definitely no hard feelings.
``On Saturday one of the Sturt supporters said `good luck Mitch’ to me in the warm up before the game and it put a smile on my face to hear that from someone at Sturt.
``And after the game I had a chat to the guys and wished them luck for the finals.’’
Farmer doesn’t blame Sturt for missing League selection this season, saying it was a combination of his poor form and the Double Blues’ depth that kept him out of the senior side.
``I won’t be the person who will say my form was the best or as good as it could have been,’’ he said.
``But making the change I’m playing League and finding my feet.
``And that (Sturt’s midfield depth) was another situation I had to deal with.
``To their (Sturt) credit they’ve got a great side and are going to go far in the finals.
``But at South I’m definitely getting that (League) opportunity.’’
Farmer is playing in defence for the Panthers and said he was happy at his new SANFL club.
``All the boys have been good and Clay (Sampson) has been great.
``He always rings during the week to see how the body pulled up and looking forward to the next game.’’
http://messenger-news.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/farmer-playing-for-his-career/
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wouldn't be surprised if he did change his mind.
i mean brock mclean changed his mind pretty quickly, from forking out $10000 to save the dees to walking out on the club.
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Dont get sucked in again by Port - we are their bitch - Thompson, Roden etc - not worth trading with.
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Dont get sucked in again by Port - we are their bitch - Thompson, Roden etc - not worth trading with.
We never traded with Port for Rodan, we delisted him
Nothing wrong with Mitch, he'd be a good pickup
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stay at Port Adelaide Mitch!
:)
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Please Richmond no
nothing wrong with him i hear some people say.
yes of course nothing wrong with Mclovin and Thompson either.
Rubbish players from other clubs that will get us real far wont it
Pass
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Please Richmond no
nothing wrong with him i hear some people say.
yes of course nothing wrong with Mclovin and Thompson either.
Rubbish players from other clubs that will get us real far wont it
Pass
I'm happy for them to do it, if it's a player for player trade.
McMuffin/Hughes/Pattison for Farmer would be fine.
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Please Richmond no
nothing wrong with him i hear some people say.
yes of course nothing wrong with Mclovin and Thompson either.
Rubbish players from other clubs that will get us real far wont it
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Stupid attitude, you can't rule out every trade because a couple were duds.
There was always PLENTY wrong with McMahon & Thomson had known flaws too, you should know this more than anyone (however plenty of time for Thomson to prove himself still)
Mitch is a hard at it back pocket with good skills. We need one of those. If we can get him at the same time as trading away someone like Hughes or Schulz then I'd think you'd be dancing a jig, not bagging the club. Although I know how much you like bagging the club.
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How many games has he played at Port??
Last time i checked Port wasn't in the finals so i would've thought playing the kids would have been a priority.
Maybe he is not good enough
It must also be said this Mitch Farmer is a whopping 180 cms and wait for it. 77 kgs.
Yep sorry my mistake exactly what we need at our club
i think we have other needs at the moment more important than a reject from another club who cant string a game together
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Agree with Daniel - we have more pressing needs at the moment.
I wasnt too happy with A. T. and wouldnt be that happy with this one either...
If you want to pick up re-cycled players...have a look at who the Saints have picked up:
(a) Ray #4 pick who def can play but didnt fit in with the doggies;
(b) King (for a song) Premiership ruckman
(c) Gardiner - AA and has played in a GF;
(d) Sneider- played in 2 GFs (i think - maybe just one).
These are players who have played plenty of footy, been high draft picks, AA, Grand Finals experience etc...so they draft re-cycled players with quality...did i miss anyone...oh yes...Dempster (they cut Fiora too).
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How many games has he played at Port??
Last time i checked Port wasn't in the finals so i would've thought playing the kids would have been a priority.
Maybe he is not good enough
It must also be said this Mitch Farmer is a whopping 180 cms and wait for it. 77 kgs.
Yep sorry my mistake exactly what we need at our club
i think we have other needs at the moment more important than a reject from another club who cant string a game together
So are you happy keeping Dean Polo as our back pocket to play on small defenders? Or is he one of the many duds you want to give the ass?
We always get cut up by small forwards, Dean has done ok this year but we need more in this position. I'm not saying we should trade picks for him, however if he wants to come home as reported and the trade can help facilitate the delisting of one of our (potentially contracted) duds, then I'm all for it.
If if came down to getting nothing for Hughes, or keeping Schulz instead of getting a young well skilled victorian defender from the 2007 draft, which would you choose?
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How many games has he played at Port??
Last time i checked Port wasn't in the finals so i would've thought playing the kids would have been a priority.
Maybe he is not good enough
It must also be said this Mitch Farmer is a whopping 180 cms and wait for it. 77 kgs.
Yep sorry my mistake exactly what we need at our club
i think we have other needs at the moment more important than a reject from another club who cant string a game together
So are you happy keeping Dean Polo as our back pocket to play on small defenders? Or is he one of the many duds you want to give the ass?
We always get cut up by small forwards, Dean has done ok this year but we need more in this position. I'm not saying we should trade picks for him, however if he wants to come home as reported and the trade can help facilitate the delisting of one of our (potentially contracted) duds, then I'm all for it.
If if came down to getting nothing for Hughes, or keeping Schulz instead of getting a young well skilled victorian defender from the 2007 draft, which would you choose?
if they want one of Schulz or Hughes as a direct swap then yes of course i would be for it but not if it means Farmer would occupy a spot ahead of another kid from the draft who hasnt had 3 years in the system. The money we save from a first year we can hire another development coach. I know which option i would choose ;)
Morton is the only recycled player in the last 10 years i can think of that has paid off for us. What does that tell you.
The failures
Mclovin
Knobel
Kingsley
Brown due to injury a failure none the less
Morrison
P Bowden
Graham
Thompson??
Hislop
Blumfield
Nichols
Lets just focus on the draft and only the draft for a few years and see how we go :thumbsup Its something that we dont do and then some wonder why we cant get it right
As for your comments regarding Polo. Well IMHO he is not a back pocket player at all. He should play forward from next year. Polo is a good player for us.
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I'm not saying we should offer draft picks for him, not at all, player swap or PSD only
It really does depend on the quality of the draft though in the 4th-5th round
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We havent had a decent Back Pocket for years. If he can dispose of the footy properly by foot and hand and he comes cheap - then why not?
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We havent had a decent Back Pocket for years. If he can dispose of the footy properly by foot and hand and he comes cheap - then why not?
I have a decent back pocket but it's from Target...... shouldn't we be looking for a Vercace back pocket for a change????
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Agree with Daniel - we have more pressing needs at the moment.
I wasnt too happy with A. T. and wouldnt be that happy with this one either...
If you want to pick up re-cycled players...have a look at who the Saints have picked up:
(a) Ray #4 pick who def can play but didnt fit in with the doggies;
(b) King (for a song) Premiership ruckman
(c) Gardiner - AA and has played in a GF;
(d) Sneider- played in 2 GFs (i think - maybe just one).
These are players who have played plenty of footy, been high draft picks, AA, Grand Finals experience etc...so they draft re-cycled players with quality...did i miss anyone...oh yes...Dempster (they cut Fiora too).
They also picked up Fiora too, who had many problems as a player and many games for clubs to see those problems, so they aren't all knowing gods of football either at St Kilda.
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How many games has he played at Port??
Last time i checked Port wasn't in the finals so i would've thought playing the kids would have been a priority.
Maybe he is not good enough
It must also be said this Mitch Farmer is a whopping 180 cms and wait for it. 77 kgs.
Yep sorry my mistake exactly what we need at our club
i think we have other needs at the moment more important than a reject from another club who cant string a game together
So are you happy keeping Dean Polo as our back pocket to play on small defenders? Or is he one of the many duds you want to give the ass?
We always get cut up by small forwards, Dean has done ok this year but we need more in this position. I'm not saying we should trade picks for him, however if he wants to come home as reported and the trade can help facilitate the delisting of one of our (potentially contracted) duds, then I'm all for it.
If if came down to getting nothing for Hughes, or keeping Schulz instead of getting a young well skilled victorian defender from the 2007 draft, which would you choose?
if they want one of Schulz or Hughes as a direct swap then yes of course i would be for it but not if it means Farmer would occupy a spot ahead of another kid from the draft who hasnt had 3 years in the system. The money we save from a first year we can hire another development coach. I know which option i would choose ;)
Morton is the only recycled player in the last 10 years i can think of that has paid off for us. What does that tell you.
The failures
Mclovin
Knobel
Kingsley
Brown due to injury a failure none the less
Morrison
P Bowden
Graham
Thompson??
Hislop
Blumfield
Nichols
Lets just focus on the draft and only the draft for a few years and see how we go :thumbsup Its something that we dont do and then some wonder why we cant get it right
As for your comments regarding Polo. Well IMHO he is not a back pocket player at all. He should play forward from next year. Polo is a good player for us.
That's a damning list. But don't forget we got Kane Johnson during the Frawley era. They probably over paid for him but not all transfers fail. But I have to agree with a number of the other pundits here, grabbing recycled players who can't make the other teams regularly or even the Sturt firsts seems a bit silly. You would want to get someone who is at least pushing the edges of selection.
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How many games has he played at Port??
Last time i checked Port wasn't in the finals so i would've thought playing the kids would have been a priority.
Maybe he is not good enough
It must also be said this Mitch Farmer is a whopping 180 cms and wait for it. 77 kgs.
Yep sorry my mistake exactly what we need at our club
i think we have other needs at the moment more important than a reject from another club who cant string a game together
So are you happy keeping Dean Polo as our back pocket to play on small defenders? Or is he one of the many duds you want to give the ass?
We always get cut up by small forwards, Dean has done ok this year but we need more in this position. I'm not saying we should trade picks for him, however if he wants to come home as reported and the trade can help facilitate the delisting of one of our (potentially contracted) duds, then I'm all for it.
If if came down to getting nothing for Hughes, or keeping Schulz instead of getting a young well skilled victorian defender from the 2007 draft, which would you choose?
if they want one of Schulz or Hughes as a direct swap then yes of course i would be for it but not if it means Farmer would occupy a spot ahead of another kid from the draft who hasnt had 3 years in the system. The money we save from a first year we can hire another development coach. I know which option i would choose ;)
Morton is the only recycled player in the last 10 years i can think of that has paid off for us. What does that tell you.
The failures
Mclovin
Knobel
Kingsley
Brown due to injury a failure none the less
Morrison
P Bowden
Graham
Thompson??
Hislop
Blumfield
Nichols
Lets just focus on the draft and only the draft for a few years and see how we go :thumbsup Its something that we dont do and then some wonder why we cant get it right
As for your comments regarding Polo. Well IMHO he is not a back pocket player at all. He should play forward from next year. Polo is a good player for us.
That's a damning list. But don't forget we got Kane Johnson during the Frawley era. They probably over paid for him but not all transfers fail. But I have to agree with a number of the other pundits here, grabbing recycled players who can't make the other teams regularly or even the Sturt firsts seems a bit silly. You would want to get someone who is at least pushing the edges of selection.
thats the most important line of your post.
We have constantly picked up players who have struggled for selection at their club and all but Morton have failed at Punt Road
This may be another example of a reject from another club.
Our needs are tall strong bodied players not skinny players who are one trick pony's
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How many games has he played at Port??
Last time i checked Port wasn't in the finals so i would've thought playing the kids would have been a priority.
Maybe he is not good enough
It must also be said this Mitch Farmer is a whopping 180 cms and wait for it. 77 kgs.
Yep sorry my mistake exactly what we need at our club
i think we have other needs at the moment more important than a reject from another club who cant string a game together
So are you happy keeping Dean Polo as our back pocket to play on small defenders? Or is he one of the many duds you want to give the ass?
We always get cut up by small forwards, Dean has done ok this year but we need more in this position. I'm not saying we should trade picks for him, however if he wants to come home as reported and the trade can help facilitate the delisting of one of our (potentially contracted) duds, then I'm all for it.
If if came down to getting nothing for Hughes, or keeping Schulz instead of getting a young well skilled victorian defender from the 2007 draft, which would you choose?
if they want one of Schulz or Hughes as a direct swap then yes of course i would be for it but not if it means Farmer would occupy a spot ahead of another kid from the draft who hasnt had 3 years in the system. The money we save from a first year we can hire another development coach. I know which option i would choose ;)
Morton is the only recycled player in the last 10 years i can think of that has paid off for us. What does that tell you.
The failures
Mclovin
Knobel
Kingsley
Brown due to injury a failure none the less
Morrison
P Bowden
Graham
Thompson??
Hislop
Blumfield
Nichols
Lets just focus on the draft and only the draft for a few years and see how we go :thumbsup Its something that we dont do and then some wonder why we cant get it right
As for your comments regarding Polo. Well IMHO he is not a back pocket player at all. He should play forward from next year. Polo is a good player for us.
That's a damning list. But don't forget we got Kane Johnson during the Frawley era. They probably over paid for him but not all transfers fail. But I have to agree with a number of the other pundits here, grabbing recycled players who can't make the other teams regularly or even the Sturt firsts seems a bit silly. You would want to get someone who is at least pushing the edges of selection.
thats the most important line of your post.
We have constantly picked up players who have struggled for selection at their club and all but Morton have failed at Punt RoadThis may be another example of a reject from another club.
Our needs are tall strong bodied players not skinny players who are one trick pony's
Like Kane Johnson?
:sleep
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[Farmer] Has been told he's going to be delisted.
Probably the greatest source there is on the topic.
Mitch Farmer.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=635588&page=5
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Wouldn't surprise me to see him as a late draft pick up or a PSD selection after training with us then
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Like Kane Johnson?
:sleep
The drafting of Kane Johnson was a failure of the highest order.
i think you will find the kids we could have picked up instead of Kane Johnson in that draft would put us is in a better position than we are in now.
Mcintosh, Winderlick, Minson, Sellwood, Gilham the list goes on
Where are they and where is Kane.
The 2002 draft for the Richmond football club was perhaps worse than the 2005 draft.
Kane Johnson-Adelaide
Tim Fleming-Blues
Billy Nichols-Hawks
Jay Schulz-Dud
3 out of 4 of those were from other clubs. As i said the recruiting of Morton was a big win for our club.
Every other player we have recruited in the last 10 years who cant get a game elsewhere turns into a dud. FACT!!!
This system does not work for the RFC and it has been proven time and time again.
We have to recruit via the draft and any cash left over spent on developing their body and skills.
Choco has a great eye for talent and is a premiership coach, and if he doesn't find anything in this kid then what makes you think Francis Jackson will.
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Richmond is considering a trade for Port Adelaide's small defender Mitch Farmer.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/ultimatum-to-lake/2009/10/06/1254701019830.html
FWIW Emma Quayle rated Farmer in her top 25 before the 2007 draft. She rated Cotchin No.1
25. MitchFarmer
(Calder Cannons. 18. 180cm, 77kg) Farmer, who captained the Cannons through the TAC Cup fi nals, is a feisty little player who I'm not sure will play as a full-time AFL midfi elder, but may surprise.
You'll know what you'll get from him every single week; he'll bring guaranteed grunt, and has enough skill to go with it.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/general/draft-day-is-like-christmas-for-16-afl-clubs/2007/11/17/1194767026939.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2
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That alone sounds to be promising.
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Here are a few vids of young Mitch.
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/195057
Showed a bit running back with the flight a couple of times .
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/60221
A couple of nice tackles in this one.
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/122216
Some nice deliveries here.
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Found this in an old Big Footy Draft profile- shows he was mainly a back pocket type, but seemed to be fairly well rated by most
Mitch Farmer (BP) - 4 January 1989, 179cm 76kg. Vic Metro/Calder/Craigieburn
"Weaver: Farmer was unlucky last season as he showed he was a composed back-pocket very much at home in the modern rebounding role. He hits targets by foot, makes good decisions, and shuts down opponents. Probably would have liked to seen better midfield performances. Specialist back-pockets are hardly sought-after on draft day - and Dangerfield and Browne might have him covered.
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"Matt Burgan: Farmer shone as a small rebounding defender in Vic Metro's first win of the championships. He sent the ball out of the back half eight times, while he collected 20 touches for the match. He also plucked seven marks and gained seven loose-ball gets.
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"Alan McConnell: From the back-pocket, Farmer read the ball exceptionally well. He had a great game and nullified his opponent. He generated plenty of run for the Vic Metro team out of defence.
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"ant555: Mitchell Farmer-179cm, 76kg-Calder Cannons. Hard to rat this bloke as a midfielder as he plays a lot as a small defender. Rebounds well from defence and has good kicking skills. Seems to have a decent motor as he doesn’t stop running from defence. Hard to know where he may go due to back pockets not being overly popular in the draft.
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Ok just saw my first bit of this kid on the video footage provided in this thread, I may have to back peddle a bit here but I will still reserve judgement until the season starts but........... can anyone else see a bit of Tarkyn Lockyer in this kid????
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He is certainly more 'robust' than our normal twig-thin draftees.
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To me he looks like he will work out alright for us.
So I'm in favour of taking him on with us.
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done deal for Sarge:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/85866/default.aspx
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Glad to see the end of Shulzs good riddens
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Welcome to Tigerland Mitch :)
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Apparently we are the 4th club involved with the Burgoyne trade with us getting PA's pick 40 for our 49 ???
Dont know why they just wouldnt have done this with our players swap.
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Apparently we are the 4th club involved with the Burgoyne trade with us getting PA's pick 40 for our 49 ???
Dont know why they just wouldnt have done this with our players swap.
Geelong is being touted as the 4th team now by bigfooty.
I was trying to understand how we played a role at all because we weren't mixing our picks between any of the other clubs, weird.
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Here are a few vids of young Mitch.
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/195057
Showed a bit running back with the flight a couple of times .
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/60221
A couple of nice tackles in this one.
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/122216
Some nice deliveries here.
stuff this kids not bad!! reminds me of Daniel Rich.. some nice tackles and looks to be a good kick. Welcome to Tigerland Champ!!!
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Very good Mitch, well done & welcome to the Tigers, you will get out what you put in!!!!!!!
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yep my dislike for Schulz has seen me welcome this kid with open arms. Good Luck pal
we can have 22 players on the field again. You beauty!!
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Welcome Mitchell Farmer!
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i hope you turn out to be a GREAT Back Pocket player like your new coach!
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Welcome Mitchell Farmer!
:)
i hope you turn out to be a GREAT Back Pocket player like your new coach!
:)
Yep me to.
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Welcome Mitchell Farmer!
:)
i hope you turn out to be a GREAT Back Pocket player like your new coach!
:)
Yep me to.
What do you mean Bushy? You want to turn out to be a great back pocket player like our new coach or you want Farmer to turn out to be a great back pocket player like you?? ;D
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Jay Schulz to Port Adelaide for Mitch Farmer and pick 72
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Jay Schulz to Port Adelaide for Mitch Farmer and pick 72
Oops beat me to it wayne :thumbsup
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Jay Schulz to Port Adelaide for Mitch Farmer and pick 72
What use is pick 72 to us in a shallow draft. It's our 7th pick ???
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Jay Schulz to Port Adelaide for Mitch Farmer and pick 72
What use is pick 72 to us in a shallow draft. It's our 7th pick ???
I agree its a joke really.
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We've finally gotten a mobile player who is also built like a tank! Welcome to Tigerland Mitch. :thumbsup
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Pick 72 = Josh Free.
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Jay Schulz to Port Adelaide for Mitch Farmer and pick 72
What use is pick 72 to us in a shallow draft. It's our 7th pick ???
I agree its a joke really.
I think we should of done better but to me it points to the fact many players are going to be delisted and we are going to use that many picks.
Is this a good thing ? Well if I read your Sig right you seem to think so.
Personally I think we sould pick as many kids as possible even in a so called "shallow draft". You just never really know what diamonds you may turn up.
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Pick 72 = Josh Free.
That would make sense if that ends up occuring, it appears to be a throw away take a chance type pick.
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i think Hardwick will use every Draft Pick Richmond has!
if we are delisting Adam Pattison, that takes our "Free Spots" to Eight, (i think ???)
:)
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Pick 72 will be used so it's better than another round later.
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Welcome Mitchell Farmer!
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i hope you turn out to be a GREAT Back Pocket player like your new coach!
:)
Yep me to.
What do you mean Bushy? You want to turn out to be a great back pocket player like our new coach or you want Farmer to turn out to be a great back pocket player like you?? ;D
No just to say welcome to the club that is all.
Though what I did see from those links that were put up he will be okay I hope.
So it is really just that. nothing else.
I hope this has covered what I posted for above.
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Welcome Mitchell Farmer!
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i hope you turn out to be a GREAT Back Pocket player like your new coach!
:)
Yep me to.
What do you mean Bushy? You want to turn out to be a great back pocket player like our new coach or you want Farmer to turn out to be a great back pocket player like you?? ;D
No just to say welcome to the club that is all.
Though what I did see from those links that were put up he will be okay I hope.
So it is really just that. nothing else.
I hope this has covered what I posted for above.
I was having a laugh with you Bushy. And on Farmer - I agree totally, I liked what I saw but like all of us nowadays and in the immortal words of Jerry MacGuire - "show me the money"!
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Welcome Mitch See ya Schulz.
Hopefully Mitch can supersede anything Jay has ever done as a minimum. Come to think of it he already has. I have some hope. :thumbsup Welcome Mitch. :bow
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Photoshop job on the RFC site:
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/images_richmond/2009 player pics/farmer_246.jpg)
The 20-year-old, originally from Craigieburn Football Club, captained the Calder Cannons in their 2007 TAC Cup grand final victory, represented Vic Metro in the AFL under-18 Championships the same year, and was named in the back pocket in the ’07 TAC Cup Team of the Year.
He made a promising debut late in the 2008 season for the Power, playing three games (Rounds 18-20), but did not manage a senior AFL appearance in ’09, spending the year in the SANFL, where he caught the eye of the Tiger talent scouts with a series of impressive performances.
He is renowned for his kicking skills, pace and football ‘smarts’.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/players/playerprofile/mitchellfarmer/tabid/8473/playerid/20177/category/senior/season/2009/selected/bio/default.aspx
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Looks the part, I really hope he lives up to his "potential" and is not just another fringe player. I hope he gives the pre-season a real shake up, performs better than expected in the NAB Cup and then surpasses all expectations in the season proper... :thumbsup
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Photoshop job on the RFC site:
Mitch has got a big head I see. :lol
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The RFC site says Farmer has been given guernsey #15
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/players/tabid/7689/season/2009/category/senior/default.aspx
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The RFC site says Farmer has been given guernsey #15
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/players/tabid/7689/season/2009/category/senior/default.aspx
And Kayne Pettifer has No. 15 too :rollin
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And Kayne Pettifer has No. 15 too :rollin
I'm presuming not anymore ;)
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Would have thought he'd take #25 as he's commented in an interview that it was his favoured number as a junior
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Farmer has had an op to remove a small cyst from his knee. He'll be back into full training in December.
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A couple of pics of Mitch Farmer. He was facing the other way so that's why the second one is from the back.
Click to enlarge
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_041109/farmer1_thumb.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_041109/farmer1.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_041109/farmer2_thumb.jpg) (http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/team/training_041109/farmer2.jpg)
Mitch Farmer
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Was going to ask you about him OE, why is he not training, and no I am not stalking you tonight..... :lol
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Once again it's only preseason games and not the real stuff but nevertheless a promising start for Mitch in Y&B so far. I liked him in the U18s out of a back pocket for Vic Metro. A bonus if he can do the same role for us as we've been crying out for a small defender for some time. The test for him will come when he has to play on little runts like Milne who always seem to have a day out against us.
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No good.
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Who cares, we got Farmer & Nason for Schulz who was going to get delisted anyway
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Yep if Farmers only benefit of coming to Richmond was that we didn't have to watch Schulz in the yellow and black I am a happy man
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Who cares, we got Farmer & Nason for Schulz who was going to get delisted anyway
if you think replacing one dud with another is of benefit to the club then good luck to you.
Farmer is of no benefit to this club. Nason i have time for.
He was recruited to contain the small forwards was he not...hahahaha He has been average all year actually pathetic more like it and Jetta among others showed him up for the fraud he is.
You will find him dumped this week im sure of it
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Who cares, we got Farmer & Nason for Schulz who was going to get delisted anyway
if you think replacing one dud with another is of benefit to the club then good luck to you.
Farmer is of no benefit to this club. Nason i have time for.
He was recruited to contain the small forwards was he not...hahahaha He has been average all year actually pathetic more like it and Jetta among others showed him up for the fraud he is.
You will find him dumped this week im sure of it
farmer wont be dumped and u will find once his fitness is up he will play in the guts , good players look poo when they play alongside poo
he will be a very good player once he has good footy players around him
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Most on here should be happy - I think Mitch will out next week ....suspended, gave Hurley a nice elbow to the back of the head in the first qtr
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I to think he will be warming the bench next week to.
But it was well timed.
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Most on here should be happy - I think Mitch will out next week ....suspended, gave Hurley a nice elbow to the back of the head in the first qtr
Agreed, will get a week or two for that I reckon
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That fumble in the second when metres in the clear was shocking. He even had three go's at it before the Essendon player forced a throw in such was the time he had available to him. Shocking bit of play. >:(
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That fumble in the second when metres in the clear was shocking. He even had three go's at it before the Essendon player forced a throw in such was the time he had available to him. Shocking bit of play. >:(
ive seen more than enough Tucker :chuck :chuck His constant fumbles on at least 4 occasions when no one was around him was enough for me to safely say he is rubbish.
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He's still only played 10 AFL games
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He's still only played 10 AFL games
That's a cop out Infamy.
Skills, running to position, age, smaller body, adjusting to the pace of a game can affect a player early in his career but fumbling the way he does when in the clear in unacceptable. You can still be short of brains and still play the game effectively but if your hands are letting you down well then that's another issue Infamy.
I'm not going to say I hope he improves all I'm saying what he dished up last night was unacceptable and his hit on Hurley is probably a bi product of where he is at currently in his mind regarding his footy.
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He's still only played 10 AFL games
Nason has played less and is more of a player than Farmer. The sole reason for recruiting him was to stop little Milne type forwards that destroy us every year, and with Farmer i am not confident at all when he goes near the ball nor stopping the small forward types.
Another rubbish draft selection we could've done without.
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He's still only played 10 AFL games
Nason has played less and is more of a player than Farmer. The sole reason for recruiting him was to stop little Milne type forwards that destroy us every year, and with Farmer i am not confident at all when he goes near the ball nor stopping the small forward types.
Another rubbish draft selection we could've done without.
He wasn't a draft selection you drop kick, we got him for getting rid of Schulz, which you wanted
Plus we got the draft pick that got us Nason
FFS :banghead
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He's still only played 10 AFL games
Nason has played less and is more of a player than Farmer. The sole reason for recruiting him was to stop little Milne type forwards that destroy us every year, and with Farmer i am not confident at all when he goes near the ball nor stopping the small forward types.
Another rubbish draft selection we could've done without.
He wasn't a draft selection you drop kick, we got him for getting rid of Schulz, which you wanted
Plus we got the draft pick that got us Nason
FFS :banghead
i know exactly what he was you dumb stuff and you can word it whichever way you want if it makes you feel better. But his selection prevents us picking up another kid from the draft so thats a waste IMO.
Farmer is not much better than Schulz believe me.
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He's still only played 10 AFL games
Nason has played less and is more of a player than Farmer. The sole reason for recruiting him was to stop little Milne type forwards that destroy us every year, and with Farmer i am not confident at all when he goes near the ball nor stopping the small forward types.
Another rubbish draft selection we could've done without.
He wasn't a draft selection you drop kick, we got him for getting rid of Schulz, which you wanted
Plus we got the draft pick that got us Nason
FFS :banghead
Shot down! That kind of factual post making is not welcome here :lol
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He's still only played 10 AFL games
Nason has played less and is more of a player than Farmer. The sole reason for recruiting him was to stop little Milne type forwards that destroy us every year, and with Farmer i am not confident at all when he goes near the ball nor stopping the small forward types.
Another rubbish draft selection we could've done without.
He wasn't a draft selection you drop kick, we got him for getting rid of Schulz, which you wanted
Plus we got the draft pick that got us Nason
FFS :banghead
i know exactly what he was you dumb eff and you can word it whichever way you want if it makes you feel better. But his selection prevents us picking up another kid from the draft so thats a waste IMO.
Farmer is not much better than Schulz believe me.
How, exactly did his trade stop us from drafting a young player? BTW Mitch Farmer is still young! We still ended up with the same amount of draft picks that we had before the trade period! Not certain we could have got a decent pick for Shulz on its own!
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I havent seen much to get too enthused about Farmer, too often he fumbles under pressure be it implied or physical, no bloody way should he be in the team ahead of polo..in any case he'll get at least 2 weeks for the elbow to the head
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not good
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Hardwick said you won't be playing in the team if you can't win your own ball.
.....See ya Farmer.
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LMAO at how slow farmer is off the mark. As soon as the sheerin is in hands i have visions of a white version of JON.
Milne was streets ahead of him when he played on him, and surely we cant persist with him. He has played one descent game all year(last week)
seen enough
hack
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agree, he is just not up to it :( cant beat his man
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Milne towelled up Thursfield too so Farmer wasn't alone on this. If anything he had to cover for another players failure.
That being said, I don't know what Farmer was doing playing 7-8 meters off Milne... not smart.
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Poor again.
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The guy is useless!!!!
I just hope he doesn't become the coaches pet. It will like Frawley/Fiora or Wallace/shultz all over again. :banghead
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poofter version of leon cameron.
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mitch farmer, ben mason, shane edwards are too small
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mitch farmer, ben mason, shane edwards are too small
I don't know how many times this needs to be disproved, but it has nothing to do with size, it's about quality
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mitch farmer, ben mason, shane edwards are too small
I don't know how many times this needs to be disproved, but it has nothing to do with size, it's about quality
That is the bottom line. Despite that it is often the small forwards that tear us a new one, some keep sprouting this line.
All three of the players mentioned by torch are taller than Milne, so does that mean he is too small too?
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mitch farmer, ben mason, shane edwards are too small
I don't know how many times this needs to be disproved, but it has nothing to do with size, it's about quality
how many clubs play with the size of Nason, King, Nahas, White, Farmer, Edwards all in the one team. not many im guessing.
too many of the same in 1 team. open your eyes and you will see it too. It wasnt wet like last week it was a dry ground and we played too small.
FLMAO at Farmer replacing Schulz on our list. Schulz is actually a better player.lol
i call Farmer footsteps as every time he touched the ball he fumbles like someone who is going to bend him over from behind and pound his sorry arse
little sissy. Dimma drop him and put us out of our misery
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mitch farmer, ben mason, shane edwards are too small
Would agree.
Seen Nason get crunched a ripper by Del Santo last night ( who is hardly a tough player )
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mitch farmer, ben mason, shane edwards are too small
Would agree.
Seen Nason get crunched a ripper by Del Santo last night ( who is hardly a tough player )
add king to that list as well. with tambling in the side ... its way to small.
edwards is improving and has put on some size and tambling should be the only midgets in the side, if we need a 3rd Nason should play ahead of Nahaaaaaa ;D
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mitch farmer, ben mason, shane edwards are too small
I don't know how many times this needs to be disproved, but it has nothing to do with size, it's about quality
how many clubs play with the size of Nason, King, Nahas, White, Farmer, Edwards all in the one team. not many im guessing.
Byrnes, Stokes, Chapman, Wojinski, Ablett, Selwood.
Bateman, Hooper, Brown, Rioli, Osbourne, Mitchell, Sewell.
Betts, Joseph, Murphy, Yarran, Garlett, Armfield.
Campbell, Harvey, Garlett, Adams, Ross, Urquhart, Wells, Thomas
Montagna, Milne, McQualter, Scheider, Baker.
I can't be stuffed going through the rest but there are 5 teams that suggest we are pretty close to the same amount of "midgets" playing as anyone else.
It's about body size and quality that gets us at the moment because of where our list is at.
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Milne stats:
kicks 16, handballs 5, marks contested 2, marks uncontested 9, tackles 3, clearences 3, goals 5.
Farmer stats:
poo himself 15, unaccountable 9, soft 21, shephards 0, tackles 1.
1 tackle 2 weeks in a row is consistant I say! :thumbsup
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Milne stats:
kicks 16, handballs 5, marks contested 2, marks uncontested 9, tackles 3, clearences 3, goals 5.
Farmer stats:
poo himself 15, unaccountable 9, soft 21, shephards 0, tackles 1.
1 tackle 2 weeks in a row is consistant I say! :thumbsup
To be fair, Farmer only played on Milne for some of the 2nd half
Thursfield was on him in the first half and got smashed also
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well im going to go against the grain and openly state I've seen a few good signs from farmer the past 2 weeks and think long term he'll make it. Hasnt been impressive to date, but just the way he selflessly and naturally leaves his man to be a chop out, his hardness has impressed me and his kicking seems more to be a confidence thing bc mechanically it looks ok to me and he can really roost it. Got to remember hes only played about 10 or so games so hes going to have that "rabbit in headlights" look about him for another 20 or so games. Reckon he'll be ok
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well im going to go against the grain and openly state I've seen a few good signs from farmer the past 2 weeks and think long term he'll make it. Hasnt been impressive to date, but just the way he selflessly and naturally leaves his man to be a chop out, his hardness has impressed me and his kicking seems more to be a confidence thing bc mechanically it looks ok to me and he can really roost it. Got to remember hes only played about 10 or so games so hes going to have that "rabbit in headlights" look about him for another 20 or so games. Reckon he'll be ok
I agree with you 100%. I think he has looked really good at times. He has set up some great plays too, some good drive out of defence and attack further up the field. He will only get better. People are judging him like a player who has been around for years, he is pretty new at this level.
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well im going to go against the grain and openly state I've seen a few good signs from farmer the past 2 weeks and think long term he'll make it. Hasnt been impressive to date, but just the way he selflessly and naturally leaves his man to be a chop out, his hardness has impressed me and his kicking seems more to be a confidence thing bc mechanically it looks ok to me and he can really roost it. Got to remember hes only played about 10 or so games so hes going to have that "rabbit in headlights" look about him for another 20 or so games. Reckon he'll be ok
I agree with you 100%. I think he has looked really good at times. He has set up some great plays too, some good drive out of defence and attack further up the field. He will only get better. People are judging him like a player who has been around for years, he is pretty new at this level.
you guys crack me up. He isn't hard, he isn't impressive and he hasn't looked good. He looks scared and nervous. He doesn't shepherd nor does he tackle enough. Send him to Coburg until he can actually do the things you write. The guy is just a younger version of another overated hack...... Hislop.
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(http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2007/02/19/previews/Elle%20MacPherson-SPX-005137.jpg)
his mum must look something like this because there isn't any other logical reason he's getting a game.
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Farmer was very poor against St. Kilda. Looked very slow and failed to man up
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I like Farmer.
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Think he'll find himself back at Coburg this week with better options coming back into the side.
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mitch farmer, ben mason, shane edwards are too small
I don't know how many times this needs to be disproved, but it has nothing to do with size, it's about quality
how many clubs play with the size of Nason, King, Nahas, White, Farmer, Edwards all in the one team. not many im guessing.
too many of the same in 1 team. open your eyes and you will see it too. It wasnt wet like last week it was a dry ground and we played too small.
FLMAO at Farmer replacing Schulz on our list. Schulz is actually a better player.lol
i call Farmer footsteps as every time he touched the ball he fumbles like someone who is going to bend him over from behind and pound his sorry behind
little limpgot. Dimma drop him and put us out of our misery
you can add cousins webberley and tambling to that lot as well. and foley as well when fit. wheres the quality take out cousins whos a shadow of his former self and its not only midgetsville its mediocreville. then throw in the fact they are regularly going in with just 6 talls it aint going to work. the only time its worked was in monsoonal conditions against port.
if the smalls were classy and damaging and could find plenty of the ball you could live with a few extra smalls but they are none of those things they are in the main glass half fulls and their size means far to often they cant even give a decent contest. the ones that do usually murder the ball.
we need to learn from other clubs and do what makes them successful. bigger stronger faster and skilled is something that regularly kills us.
theres nothing wrong with going into games with 3 or 4 smalls even half a dozen as long as it doesnt detract from structure and they are quality. its bigger players with bigger bodies that enable you to compete players like jackson and tuck who lack polish but do a job for you mainly because of their big bodies and in tucks case his ability to win the footy.
i keep saying it but imo in a purely height size scenario we need to be looking at a side that goes like this.
b/ newman/thursfield - gourdis/thursfield - connors/tambling
hb/ deledio - post - moore/dea
c/ collins - martin - cotchin
hf/ nason - riewoldt- morton/taylor
f/ astbury - griffiths/polak - quality small forward, we dont have one.
r/ graham - tuck - foley
int/ browne/vickery - jackson - cousins webberley.
we really dont have a need to play so many runts who are glass half fulls. theres 5 possibly 6 in that lot anyway.
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mitch farmer, ben mason, shane edwards are too small
I don't know how many times this needs to be disproved, but it has nothing to do with size, it's about quality
how many clubs play with the size of Nason, King, Nahas, White, Farmer, Edwards all in the one team. not many im guessing.
too many of the same in 1 team. open your eyes and you will see it too. It wasnt wet like last week it was a dry ground and we played too small.
FLMAO at Farmer replacing Schulz on our list. Schulz is actually a better player.lol
i call Farmer footsteps as every time he touched the ball he fumbles like someone who is going to bend him over from behind and pound his sorry behind
little limpgot. Dimma drop him and put us out of our misery
you can add cousins webberley and tambling to that lot as well. and foley as well when fit. wheres the quality take out cousins whos a shadow of his former self and its not only midgetsville its mediocreville. then throw in the fact they are regularly going in with just 6 talls it aint going to work. the only time its worked was in monsoonal conditions against port.
if the smalls were classy and damaging and could find plenty of the ball you could live with a few extra smalls but they are none of those things they are in the main glass half fulls and their size means far to often they cant even give a decent contest. the ones that do usually murder the ball.
we need to learn from other clubs and do what makes them successful. bigger stronger faster and skilled is something that regularly kills us.
theres nothing wrong with going into games with 3 or 4 smalls even half a dozen as long as it doesnt detract from structure and they are quality. its bigger players with bigger bodies that enable you to compete players like jackson and tuck who lack polish but do a job for you mainly because of their big bodies and in tucks case his ability to win the footy.
i keep saying it but imo in a purely height size scenario we need to be looking at a side that goes like this.
b/ newman/thursfield - gourdis/thursfield - connors/tambling
hb/ deledio - post - moore/dea
c/ collins - martin - cotchin
hf/ nason - riewoldt- morton/taylor
f/ astbury - griffiths/polak - quality small forward, we dont have one.
r/ graham - tuck - foley
int/ browne/vickery - jackson - cousins webberley.
we really dont have a need to play so many runts who are glass half fulls. theres 5 possibly 6 in that lot anyway.
forget about Morton Claw. Another Petrified Mark 2. Selfish player we dont need.
after seeing taylor today i would play him for the entire season and see how he goes. I mean guys like farmer are getting a go whilst playing poor so cant see no reason why he cant play the back half of the year.
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mitch farmer, ben mason, shane edwards are too small
I don't know how many times this needs to be disproved, but it has nothing to do with size, it's about quality
how many clubs play with the size of Nason, King, Nahas, White, Farmer, Edwards all in the one team. not many im guessing.
too many of the same in 1 team. open your eyes and you will see it too. It wasnt wet like last week it was a dry ground and we played too small.
FLMAO at Farmer replacing Schulz on our list. Schulz is actually a better player.lol
i call Farmer footsteps as every time he touched the ball he fumbles like someone who is going to bend him over from behind and pound his sorry behind
little limpgot. Dimma drop him and put us out of our misery
you can add cousins webberley and tambling to that lot as well. and foley as well when fit. wheres the quality take out cousins whos a shadow of his former self and its not only midgetsville its mediocreville. then throw in the fact they are regularly going in with just 6 talls it aint going to work. the only time its worked was in monsoonal conditions against port.
if the smalls were classy and damaging and could find plenty of the ball you could live with a few extra smalls but they are none of those things they are in the main glass half fulls and their size means far to often they cant even give a decent contest. the ones that do usually murder the ball.
we need to learn from other clubs and do what makes them successful. bigger stronger faster and skilled is something that regularly kills us.
theres nothing wrong with going into games with 3 or 4 smalls even half a dozen as long as it doesnt detract from structure and they are quality. its bigger players with bigger bodies that enable you to compete players like jackson and tuck who lack polish but do a job for you mainly because of their big bodies and in tucks case his ability to win the footy.
i keep saying it but imo in a purely height size scenario we need to be looking at a side that goes like this.
b/ newman/thursfield - gourdis/thursfield - connors/tambling
hb/ deledio - post - moore/dea
c/ collins - martin - cotchin
hf/ nason - riewoldt- morton/taylor
f/ astbury - griffiths/polak - quality small forward, we dont have one.
r/ graham - tuck - foley
int/ browne/vickery - jackson - cousins webberley.
we really dont have a need to play so many runts who are glass half fulls. theres 5 possibly 6 in that lot anyway.
forget about Morton Claw. Another Petrified Mark 2. Selfish player we dont need.
after seeing taylor today i would play him for the entire season and see how he goes. I mean guys like farmer are getting a go whilst playing poor so cant see no reason why he cant play the back half of the year.
think morton a talented player. i still think he should be transformed into a mid. but hes soft lacks a defensive side and with his attitude i dunno if these things can be turned around. sort of in the same boat as tambling as far as development goes. at 23 24 have to ask just how much can he learn and improve.
on taylor imo just to skinny atm was way out of his depth early on. has good skills and smarts dont think there is a need to rush him. needs to be able to compete physically to a degree.
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think morton a talented player. i still think he should be transformed into a mid. but hes soft lacks a defensive side and with his attitude i dunno if these things can be turned around.
Agree.
Dimma has thrown Morton the challenge. So far, not so good..
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morton > Pettifer
imo
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Farmer happy drought is over
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
Mon 05 July, 2010
MITCH Farmer is symbolic of the rebuilding process that is happening at Punt Rd.
Traded by Port Adelaide - after playing just three games there in 2008 - as part of the deal at the end of 2009 that saw Jay Schulz leave Richmond and go to the Power, he has slotted in beautifully at the Tigers, missing just two games this season.
The 21 year old has impressed with his skills and his decision-making, and was again good in Sunday's win over the Sydney Swans, racking up 14 touches (five contested), laying three tackles, putting it inside 50 twice, kicking a goal and missing another after a four-bounce run through the middle.
The win is the Tigers fourth in the past five games, and lifts the Tigers off the bottom of the ladder, where they had been since round two.
Farmer said in the rooms after the match that it was hard to take it all in.
"It's surreal, to be honest - obviously starting off the season so poorly, we just stuck to our game plan and we can obviously see that it's starting to pay off," he told richmondfc.com.au after the match.
"We do what we've got to do in the game, and obviously the results speak for themselves.
"Four out of five - it's obviously a great achievement from where we've come from at the start of the year to where we are right now.”
The Tigers fell away badly in the middle of the second term, but got going again on the back of an Andy Collins goal midway through the third.
Small forward Collins was then knocked unconscious midway through the last term, but came back on to boot the final two goals of the match.
Farmer paid tribute to the 21-year-old when asked where the Tigers got their belief from to enable them to stand up and win it.
"Andy Collins, maybe? I don't know - like I said, everyone just stuck to the game plan and we just thought we had nothing to lose and everything to gain, so we just hit our kicks and did what we had to do, I guess.
"Andy has been really good the last couple of weeks - he's stepped up when we've needed him.
"He always puts in a four-quarter effort, but a couple of goals at the end there always helps.
"We've got another player up there, Ben Griffiths, who always provides a good contest for us, but Jack is on fire at the moment - he's leading the Coleman at the moment - so other sides are going to go to him more, so it's always good that we've got someone else to step up when we need them."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/97502/default.aspx
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Has copped it unfairly on here for mine. Thought he was brilliant. Has alot to work on but I see a really really good player in him. Has great pace, good foot skills, plays with guts and a huge kick.
He had some clangers, with the fresh air hand pass and over running a ball which resulted in a goal but he works hard and is linking up perfectly and his inside 50s are really dangerous.
Great game tonight, wrapped for him.
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Mitch is playing his part in Richmonds revival.
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There was a moment in the last quarter in our forward line where he didn't go anywhere near hard enough at the ball which ended up in a Freo goal but overall he deserves his place in the side at the moment.
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More a what are they doing at the moment post but anyway Mitch Farmer is catching up with ex-Port teammates in Adelaide and posting about it on his new twitter page.
http://twitter.com/mitchF15
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Mitch a fan of Adelaide cuisine?! :D
"Wouldn't mind loosing a spare tyre or two very quickly"
http://twitter.com/mitchF15
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Mitch Farmer on twitter.....
"solid swim n weights session fingers crossed i can start running again monday"
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Mitch says his injury is nothing serous just a little hiccup and will be fine! Knock to the ankle I think!
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From Mitch Farmer's twitter:
"fingers crossed I can get back out there running tomorrow it's been such a long time in rehab"
http://twitter.com/mitchF15
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Mitch on his twitter today:
"Heel NOT ankle a little sore this morning scans this Arvo hopefully it's going to be all good news"
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No major damage but Mitch just tweeted tonight that he will miss a couple of weeks...
"Results not ideal but could have been worse only bruising of the fat pad hopefully be back in a few weeks. #19dayswouldbehandy"
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Good effort today especially in the second half. Showed composure in defence and had his direct opponent was subbed off. The way he played today reminded me of the way he played in the U18s. Nothing flashy but as a back pocket just did the right things.
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Good effort today especially in the second half. Showed composure in defence and had his direct opponent was subbed off. The way he played today reminded me of the way he played in the U18s. Nothing flashy but as a back pocket just did the right things.
agree Farmer is worth persisting with. I think he's a confidence player and if he can string out consistant effort and performance he'll be a good player in the long run.
Hislop is a waste of time. :banghead
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he reads the play well and understands how to defend a zone, which i believe is why from early on the coaches have liked him.
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Thought his 2nd half was good his first half poor/average
Seems to like the wet does Mitch
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Thought his 2nd half was good his first half poor/average
Seems to like the wet does Mitch
Agree WP, not a massive MF fan but really liked his work yesterday. Certainly looked AFL standard yesterday.
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Thought his 2nd half was good his first half poor/average
Seems to like the wet does Mitch
Agree WP, not a massive MF fan but really liked his work yesterday. Certainly looked AFL standard yesterday.
Actually Pope, Mitch's best games for us have been yesterday in the rain and against Port Adel last year at AAMI - both wet weather games
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Doc Larkins says Mitch copped a corky in the thigh and will be tested this week.
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Doc Larkins says Mitch copped a corky in the thigh and will be tested this week.
If it is a general football aptitude test I reckon he will be out for the season.
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Too slow for today's game
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Every game he has played in recent times he has a habit of handballing to a guy who is going to get smashed.
Generally we cope a goal and the momentum shifts massivly.
Ffs suck it up and take the hit yourself or kick the stuff thing as far as you can instead if giving it to a bloke standing still with someone up his knacker.
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If he hadn't of kicked those 2 goals I wouldn't have known he was playing ...honestly
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If he hadn't of kicked those 2 goals I wouldn't have known he was playing ...honestly
Played like the game was foreign to him
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Looks to have done enough for another contract. I'm liking him more in the back pocket. Skills, decision making and fitness have improved after a shocking form slump during the mid season. Is thinking through it better- he is picking the right time to go for a trot up the ground and pressure his opponent. Has bulked up heaps. Is in our best side and well done to him.
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Needs to lose some fat but has a crisp boot on him
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Lazy little pig is foreveer letting his opponent run off him to space or stuffing things up himself.
Wouldnt get a look at most other clubs
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Has an arse as rotund as a wombat.
When will RFC get a BP that can consistently shut down the small forwards ?
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I reckon he goes alright, has some positives to work with.
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I reckon he goes alright, has some positives to work with.
i reckon you have absolutely NFI. Just saying
if you think Farmer is any good you probably think the Pear and Edwards go allright too.
Framer with a body like a duck couldnt run faster than a 50 year old.
Delist
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A shocking nothing footballer. Has a good kick THAT's IT, cant run, cant lockdown small fwds and would get torn to shreds against the likes of cyril betts and co. Cant play fwd or midfield. This guy is a spud.
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I reckon he goes alright, has some positives to work with.
i reckon you have absolutely NFI. Just saying
if you think Farmer is any good you probably think the Pear and Edwards go allright too.
Edwards has played well the last 3 weeks, has allot more upside than Farmer!
Edwards is a keeper.......
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I reckon he goes alright, has some positives to work with.
i reckon you have absolutely NFI. Just saying
if you think Farmer is any good you probably think the Pear and Edwards go allright too.
Edwards has played well the last 3 weeks, has allot more upside than Farmer!
Edwards is a keeper.......
No i have to correct you Edwards has played better, certainly wouldnt use the word well. He also played well at the business end a few years back and everyone was full of praise but he threw it back in our faces.
Edwards is the type of player who is most definately your bottom 6. He was well defeated by his opponent on Sunday, i think Reilly or Danger, cant remember
We would certainly not miss him or his duck mate Farmer.
Issue is out of those 3 Edwards has some small amount of currency so i say he has got to go.
4 years in the system 100 games and we are still waiting for him to be something im affraid he never will be.
A battler at best
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I reckon he goes alright, has some positives to work with.
i reckon you have absolutely NFI. Just saying
if you think Farmer is any good you probably think the Pear and Edwards go allright too.
Framer with a body like a duck couldnt run faster than a 50 year old.
Delist
:lol
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Believe the club will delist farmer
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they should just use him as a gimp at the club functions
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li'l fat piggy boy that everyone humiliates when they're drunk ;D
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New name- Bacon.
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Bacon & Beefcake
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I reckon he goes alright, has some positives to work with.
i reckon you have absolutely NFI. Just saying
if you think Farmer is any good you probably think the Pear and Edwards go allright too.
Framer with a body like a duck couldnt run faster than a 50 year old.
Delist
For a long time on here Daniel you have bemoaned the waif-like stick figures that look like an under 13 girls team that have run out for Richmond. I agree with you on this. We've got a bloke with a bit of bulk and you can't stand him why because he is slow. OK he aint gonna win the 100 metre sprint but he gets involved in a lot of packs and that would be his job.
I think Farmer could be useful against this new breed of smaller CHF'/taller HFF's like Crameri, Edwards, Walker
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I reckon he goes alright, has some positives to work with.
i reckon you have absolutely NFI. Just saying
if you think Farmer is any good you probably think the Pear and Edwards go allright too.
Framer with a body like a duck couldnt run faster than a 50 year old.
Delist
For a long time on here Daniel you have bemoaned the waif-like stick figures that look like an under 13 girls team that have run out for Richmond. I agree with you on this. We've got a bloke with a bit of bulk and you can't stand him why because he is slow. OK he aint gonna win the 100 metre sprint but he gets involved in a lot of packs and that would be his job.
I think Farmer could be useful against this new breed of smaller CHF'/taller HFF's like Crameri, Edwards, Walker
slow and small.
I was always sceptical when he couldnt get a game with a struggling Port, and with Choco as coach.
No way would i use Farmer on any of those blokes. They are 10 cms plus taller and would send him to the cleaners.
As much as i would like to see him gone, in all fairness he probably needs another year to prove himself. We dont have to much to gain by getting rid of him as he is worthless.