Mitch Farmer

[Infamy]

I'm not saying we should offer draft picks for him, not at all, player swap or PSD only
It really does depend on the quality of the draft though in the 4th-5th round

[Ramps]

We havent had a decent Back Pocket for years. If he can dispose of the footy properly by foot and hand and he comes cheap - then why not?

[WA Tiger]

We havent had a decent Back Pocket for years. If he can dispose of the footy properly by foot and hand and he comes cheap - then why not?

I have a decent back pocket but it's from Target...... shouldn't we be looking for a Vercace back pocket for a change????

[tdy]

Agree with Daniel - we have more pressing needs at the moment.

I wasnt too happy with A. T. and wouldnt be that happy with this one either...

If you want to pick up re-cycled players...have a look at who the Saints have picked up:
(a) Ray #4 pick who def can play but didnt fit in with the doggies;
(b) King (for a song) Premiership ruckman
(c) Gardiner - AA and has played in a GF;
(d) Sneider- played in 2 GFs (i think - maybe just one).

These are players who have played plenty of footy, been high draft picks, AA, Grand Finals experience etc...so they draft re-cycled players with quality...did i miss anyone...oh yes...Dempster (they cut Fiora too).

They also picked up Fiora too, who had many problems as a player and many games for clubs to see those problems, so they aren't all knowing gods of football either at St Kilda.

[tdy]

How many games has he played at Port??

Last time i checked Port wasn't in the finals so i would've thought playing the kids would have been a priority.

Maybe he is not good enough

It must also be said this Mitch Farmer is a whopping 180 cms and wait for it. 77 kgs.

Yep sorry my mistake exactly what we need at our club

i think we have other needs at the moment more important than a reject from another club who cant string a game together

So are you happy keeping Dean Polo as our back pocket to play on small defenders? Or is he one of the many duds you want to give the ass?
We always get cut up by small forwards, Dean has done ok this year but we need more in this position. I'm not saying we should trade picks for him, however if he wants to come home as reported and the trade can help facilitate the delisting of one of our (potentially contracted) duds, then I'm all for it.

If if came down to getting nothing for Hughes, or keeping Schulz instead of getting a young well skilled victorian defender from the 2007 draft, which would you choose?

if they want one of Schulz or Hughes as a direct swap then yes of course i would be for it but not if it means Farmer would occupy a spot ahead of another kid from the draft who hasnt had 3 years in the system. The money we save from a first year we can hire another development coach. I know which option i would choose

Morton is the only recycled player in the last 10 years i can think of that has paid off for us. What does that tell you.

The failures
Mclovin
Knobel
Kingsley
Brown due to injury a failure none the less
Morrison
P Bowden
Graham
Thompson??
Hislop
Blumfield
Nichols

Lets just focus on the draft and only the draft for a few years and see how we go Its something that we dont do and then some wonder why we cant get it right

As for your comments regarding Polo. Well IMHO he is not a back pocket player at all. He should play forward from next year. Polo is a good player for us.

That's a damning list.  But don't forget we got Kane Johnson during the Frawley era.  They probably over paid for him but not all transfers fail.  But I have to agree with a number of the other pundits here, grabbing recycled players who can't make the other teams regularly or even the Sturt firsts seems a bit silly.  You would want to get someone who is at least pushing the edges of selection.

[Francois Jackson]

How many games has he played at Port??

Last time i checked Port wasn't in the finals so i would've thought playing the kids would have been a priority.

Maybe he is not good enough

It must also be said this Mitch Farmer is a whopping 180 cms and wait for it. 77 kgs.

Yep sorry my mistake exactly what we need at our club

i think we have other needs at the moment more important than a reject from another club who cant string a game together

So are you happy keeping Dean Polo as our back pocket to play on small defenders? Or is he one of the many duds you want to give the ass?
We always get cut up by small forwards, Dean has done ok this year but we need more in this position. I'm not saying we should trade picks for him, however if he wants to come home as reported and the trade can help facilitate the delisting of one of our (potentially contracted) duds, then I'm all for it.

If if came down to getting nothing for Hughes, or keeping Schulz instead of getting a young well skilled victorian defender from the 2007 draft, which would you choose?

if they want one of Schulz or Hughes as a direct swap then yes of course i would be for it but not if it means Farmer would occupy a spot ahead of another kid from the draft who hasnt had 3 years in the system. The money we save from a first year we can hire another development coach. I know which option i would choose

Morton is the only recycled player in the last 10 years i can think of that has paid off for us. What does that tell you.

The failures
Mclovin
Knobel
Kingsley
Brown due to injury a failure none the less
Morrison
P Bowden
Graham
Thompson??
Hislop
Blumfield
Nichols

Lets just focus on the draft and only the draft for a few years and see how we go Its something that we dont do and then some wonder why we cant get it right

As for your comments regarding Polo. Well IMHO he is not a back pocket player at all. He should play forward from next year. Polo is a good player for us.

That's a damning list.  But don't forget we got Kane Johnson during the Frawley era.  They probably over paid for him but not all transfers fail.  But I have to agree with a number of the other pundits here, grabbing recycled players who can't make the other teams regularly or even the Sturt firsts seems a bit silly.  You would want to get someone who is at least pushing the edges of selection.

thats the most important line of your post.

We have constantly picked up players who have struggled for selection at their club and all but Morton have failed at Punt Road

This may be another example of a reject from another club.

Our needs are tall strong bodied players not skinny players who are one trick pony's

[Judge Roughneck]

How many games has he played at Port??

Last time i checked Port wasn't in the finals so i would've thought playing the kids would have been a priority.

Maybe he is not good enough

It must also be said this Mitch Farmer is a whopping 180 cms and wait for it. 77 kgs.

Yep sorry my mistake exactly what we need at our club

i think we have other needs at the moment more important than a reject from another club who cant string a game together

So are you happy keeping Dean Polo as our back pocket to play on small defenders? Or is he one of the many duds you want to give the ass?
We always get cut up by small forwards, Dean has done ok this year but we need more in this position. I'm not saying we should trade picks for him, however if he wants to come home as reported and the trade can help facilitate the delisting of one of our (potentially contracted) duds, then I'm all for it.

If if came down to getting nothing for Hughes, or keeping Schulz instead of getting a young well skilled victorian defender from the 2007 draft, which would you choose?

if they want one of Schulz or Hughes as a direct swap then yes of course i would be for it but not if it means Farmer would occupy a spot ahead of another kid from the draft who hasnt had 3 years in the system. The money we save from a first year we can hire another development coach. I know which option i would choose

Morton is the only recycled player in the last 10 years i can think of that has paid off for us. What does that tell you.

The failures
Mclovin
Knobel
Kingsley
Brown due to injury a failure none the less
Morrison
P Bowden
Graham
Thompson??
Hislop
Blumfield
Nichols

Lets just focus on the draft and only the draft for a few years and see how we go Its something that we dont do and then some wonder why we cant get it right

As for your comments regarding Polo. Well IMHO he is not a back pocket player at all. He should play forward from next year. Polo is a good player for us.

That's a damning list.  But don't forget we got Kane Johnson during the Frawley era.  They probably over paid for him but not all transfers fail.  But I have to agree with a number of the other pundits here, grabbing recycled players who can't make the other teams regularly or even the Sturt firsts seems a bit silly.  You would want to get someone who is at least pushing the edges of selection.

thats the most important line of your post.

We have constantly picked up players who have struggled for selection at their club and all but Morton have failed at Punt RoadThis may be another example of a reject from another club.

Our needs are tall strong bodied players not skinny players who are one trick pony's

Like Kane Johnson?

 

[one-eyed]

[Farmer] Has been told he's going to be delisted.

Probably the greatest source there is on the topic.

Mitch Farmer.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=635588&page=5

[Infamy]

Wouldn't surprise me to see him as a late draft pick up or a PSD selection after training with us then

[Francois Jackson]

Like Kane Johnson?

 

The drafting of Kane Johnson was a failure of the highest order.

i think you will find the kids we could have picked up instead of Kane Johnson in that draft would put us is in a better position than we are in now.

Mcintosh, Winderlick, Minson, Sellwood, Gilham the list goes on

Where are they and where is Kane.

The 2002 draft for the Richmond football club was perhaps worse than the 2005 draft.

Kane Johnson-Adelaide
Tim Fleming-Blues
Billy Nichols-Hawks
Jay Schulz-Dud

3 out of 4 of those were from other clubs. As i said the recruiting of Morton was a big win for our club.

Every other player we have recruited in the last 10 years who cant get a game elsewhere turns into a dud. FACT!!!

This system does not work for the RFC and it has been proven time and time again.

We have to recruit via the draft and any cash left over spent on developing their body and skills.

Choco has a great eye for talent and is a premiership coach, and if he doesn't find anything in this kid then what makes you think Francis Jackson will.

[one-eyed]

Richmond is considering a trade for Port Adelaide's small defender Mitch Farmer.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/ultimatum-to-lake/2009/10/06/1254701019830.html


FWIW Emma Quayle rated Farmer in her top 25 before the 2007 draft. She rated Cotchin No.1

25. MitchFarmer

(Calder Cannons. 18. 180cm, 77kg) Farmer, who captained the Cannons through the TAC Cup fi nals, is a feisty little player who I'm not sure will play as a full-time AFL midfi elder, but may surprise.

You'll know what you'll get from him every single week; he'll bring guaranteed grunt, and has enough skill to go with it.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/general/draft-day-is-like-christmas-for-16-afl-clubs/2007/11/17/1194767026939.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2

[bushranger]

That alone sounds to be promising.

[Hes My Hero]

Here are a few vids of young Mitch.

http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/195057
 Showed a bit running back with the flight a couple of times .

http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/60221
 A couple of nice tackles in this one.

http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/122216
Some nice deliveries here.

[tigerfan1961]

Found this in an old Big Footy Draft profile- shows he was mainly a back pocket type, but seemed to be fairly well rated by most

Mitch Farmer (BP) - 4 January 1989, 179cm 76kg. Vic Metro/Calder/Craigieburn
"Weaver: Farmer was unlucky last season as he showed he was a composed back-pocket very much at home in the modern rebounding role. He hits targets by foot, makes good decisions, and shuts down opponents. Probably would have liked to seen better midfield performances. Specialist back-pockets are hardly sought-after on draft day - and Dangerfield and Browne might have him covered.
"
"Matt Burgan: Farmer shone as a small rebounding defender in Vic Metro's first win of the championships. He sent the ball out of the back half eight times, while he collected 20 touches for the match. He also plucked seven marks and gained seven loose-ball gets.
"
"Alan McConnell: From the back-pocket, Farmer read the ball exceptionally well. He had a great game and nullified his opponent. He generated plenty of run for the Vic Metro team out of defence.
"
"ant555: Mitchell Farmer-179cm, 76kg-Calder Cannons. Hard to rat this bloke as a midfielder as he plays a lot as a small defender. Rebounds well from defence and has good kicking skills. Seems to have a decent motor as he doesn’t stop running from defence. Hard to know where he may go due to back pockets not being overly popular in the draft.
"

[WA Tiger]

Ok just saw my first bit of this kid on the video footage provided in this thread, I may have to back peddle a bit here but I will still reserve judgement until the season starts but........... can anyone else see a bit of Tarkyn Lockyer in this kid????