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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 18, 2010, 07:49:27 PM
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Brad Helbig
Player statistics
* Former club:West Adelaide / Waikerie
* DOB:28/02/1992
* Height:185cm
* Weight:79kg
* Position:Midfielder
Video:
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/314425/richmond-pick-47-brad-helbig/
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/305454/bradley-helbig/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0xdMlKg2f8
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/helbig_bradley.jpg)
Player assessment
Average-sized midfielder who finds his own ball and uses it well. Won the Corey Siemers Memorial Award (Riverland Player of the Year) in 2010 while playing for West Adelaide.
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Can play!!
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Looks more like a small forward from video
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Here's video of Helbig
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/314425/richmond-pick-47-brad-helbig/
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/305454/bradley-helbig/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0xdMlKg2f8
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Another tough, good ball user.
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2010 National Draft - Brad Helbig Pick 47
DOB: 28/02/1992
H: 185.1cm
W: 85.1kg
Club: West Adelaide FC (SANFL)
Type: Inside Midfielder, Half forward
WATCH BRAD HELBIG HIGHLIGHTS: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/314425/default.aspx
What the RFC recruiters say:
Brad hails from the strong football nursery of the Riverland in South Australia, the recruiting zone for the West Adelaide Bloods. In 2009, Brad moved from Waikerie to Adelaide to further his football and schooling, taking up a position at the Henley High School. Henley is renowned for its AFL curriculum and also hosted fellow 2010 draftees Scott Lycett and Jared Polec.
Brad played the majority of 2010 season with the West Adelaide U18 side that ultimately went down to Glenelg in the Grand Final. Brad was named 2nd best player for his side in the final after bravely playing through the final series with a fractured rib suffered in a few weeks earlier. He played 14 U18 games in 2010 through the midfield kicking 18 goals as he pushed forward. He was named in his sides best players 9 times and was rewarded with 4 reserves games later in the year and his league debut in round 22.
Brad displayed tremendous ball winning ability and had a high clearance rate when playing in the midfield but also shone with his strong overhead marking when pushing forward. Brad is already developing a strong body that will cope with the rigours of AFL while has also been identified as having the kicking skill and penetration coach Hardwick demands.
The club will give Brad the time he needs to develop his body and game under the guidance of our midfield coaches. His ability to mark strongly and kick the ball with depth will also allow him to play off half back or half forward.
In his own words:
What type of player are you?
I am an in-and-under player who loves to run with the ball.
Which AFL player do you feel you resemble and why?
Joel Selwood. I can win my own ball but also run and take on the game.
What are your strengths as a footballer?
I feel my strengths are my execution (kicking, handballing), ball-winning ability and my workrate eachway - forward and defensively.
What parts of your game would you like to improve?
I would like to improve my fitness and also my reading of the play.
Which AFL team do you support and how did you come to barrack for them?
Adelaide Crows. My whole family does so I was brought up also following them .
Who has been the biggest influence on your career so far, and why
West Adelaide senior coach Andrew Collins. He has pushed me and worked me hard to make me a better player and a better person.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/News/2010NationalDraftNews/BradHelbig/tabid/15519/Default.aspx
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Someone who can get the hard ball. Good. Good luck to him
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Nice to see that Andrew Collins has had some impact here :thumbsup
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From Dominos to Punt Rd
* Kym Morgan
* From: The Messenger
* November 18, 2010 9:09PM
WHILE the nation's best young footballers sat nervously in front of their TVs watching the AFL national draft tonight, West Adelaide utility Bradley Helbig was at Dominos, Arndale, eating a pizza with his girlfriend.
That was where Helbig, 18, was when he received a call from the Bloods' under-18 assistant coach Andrew Marks to say he'd been picked up by Richmond with pick No. 47.
"I decided not to watch it to try to ease the nerves a little bit. I was with my girlfriend eating a pizza at Dominos Arndale and I got a phone call halfway through," Helbig said.
"Andrew Marks called me before the draft and told me he was going to watch it and that he would contact me as soon as he heard anything. He called me and gave me the news.
"It couldn't have happened in a weirder place I guess."
An in-and-under onballer, Helbig grew up in Waikerie on the Riverland and came down to Richmond three years ago.
He attended Henley High last year and was one of four players from the school - along with Jared Polec, Brodie Smith and Scott Lycett - taken in the draft.
Helbig said it was a surreal moment learning he had been drafted and receiving a phone call from Richmond coach and former Power premiership player Damian Hardwick.
"They spoke to me on Monday and said they were interested but there were no guarantees ...
"He (Damian Hardwick) called me about 15 minutes ago. It was all just surreal."
Helbig, who spent the past year working in the kitchen at the Bloods' function room, The Venue, will speak to the Tigers tomorrow to discuss the logistics of his move to Melbourne.
The ball-finder, who idolises Geelong star Joel Selwood, said he couldn't wait to enter the AFL system.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/from-dominos-to-punt-rd/story-fn525un5-1225955966161
WELCOME to the Henley production line.
A school where talented young footballers arrive pimply-faced and starry-eyed and leave as polished performers with the world at their feet.
In what looms as an Australian first, SA's Henley High School could deliver an extraordinary 10 players to AFL clubs this year.
Brad Helbig
Age: 18. Height: 186cm. Weight: 78kg. Position: Midfielder/forward. Club: West Adelaide. Origin: Waikerie.
Draft projection: Rookie draft, 2010
Paul Whaley (Hawthorn scout): "Has an outstanding workrate and has shown a lot of improvement late in the season in being able to win the footy and use it with precision. Goes hard for four quarters and would be a nice development prospect.''
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/a-sea-of-talent/story-e6freckc-1225907479052
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Another pre-draft article .....
Brad’s shot at the big time
Sport|Wednesday, Nov 17 2010
By NICK DILLON
Murray Pioneer
(http://www.murray-pioneer.com.au/images/articles/1/7797.jpg)
Helbig is a strong chance to be selected in Thursday’s AFL draft after a standout season with West Adelaide.
The former Magpie was one of the Bloods’ best under 18 players this year, and made his league debut against South Adelaide in August.
West Adelaide Football Club country zone co-ordinator Allan Brand said Helbig was "flying at the moment".
"Most of the clubs have spoken to and interviewed ‘Helbs’," Mr Brand said. "Freo flew Brad over there last week so there’s quite a bit of interest in him.
"He’s played centre half forward, down back and had a run on the ball so he’s pretty versatile.
"He’s in immaculate nick and his second half of the year was sensational.
"We’re pretty hopeful that he’ll get picked up."
http://www.murray-pioneer.com.au/sport/7797-bradE28099s-shot-at-the-big-time/
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Summary from Inside Football...
BRAD HELBIG
midfield
West Adelaide, SA
Born: 18yo
Ht: 186cm
Wt: 82kg
"Brad did state screening and is an elite kick of the footy with both feet. Good pace, played one game of league footy this year and is very good overhead. Can play through the midfield and also go forward and be damaging. A powerful player." -West Adelaide football manager Scott Turner
Helbig's stats for 2010
SANFL U18s: 14 games, 19 goals, 9 times in bests
SANFL ressies: 4 games, 1 goal, 3 times in bests
SANFL seniors: 1 game, 0 goals
http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=190801586&client=1-3289-35002-113897-5123172&ocompID=103283 (http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=190801586&client=1-3289-35002-113897-5123172&ocompID=103283)
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He looks alright doesn't he? Helyeah! big discrepancy in weights reported, 79 kg-85.1 kg lol
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Just found out Helbs has been given the number 32.
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Hell of a big talent
richmondfc.com.au
By Tony Greenberg
Mon 22 Nov, 2010
Andy Collins has been a well-credentialled, much-respected figure in the football world over the past quarter of a century . . . 200-plus games of league football, triple Hawthorn premiership player, Hawk Best and Fairest winner, All-Australian representative, Box Hill coach, Coburg coach, and coach of SANFL club West Adelaide for the past three years.
When Collins speaks publicly, those in the industry listen intently. So, his glowing assessment of Richmond’s third pick in last week’s 2010 National Draft, Brad Helbig, certainly carries a good deal of weight.
Helbig is an 18-year-old, 185cm, 85kg, industrious, inside midfielder, with the capacity to push forward and be productive. He worked his way impressively through the ranks at West Adelaide in 2010, starting the season in the under-18s, before earning promotion to the reserves, and then making his senior debut in round 22.
“He’s from Waikerie, where the famous Mark Ricciuto is from. The people in and around Waikerie are very excited about the talent of young Brad Helbig coming through the AFL system, and they think that he is an absolute steal at draft pick No. 47,” Collins said.
“I first saw him as a 15-year-old and was impressed straight away . . . He’s unbelievably balanced right and left-sided, has great natural aggression, likes the physical side of the game, is a good kick, and terrific overhead. He also can play a role as a medium forward because of his marking strength and the fact he enjoys kicking a goal.
“Brad’s a bit of a larrikin - but in a really nice way. He’s a beauty . . . a really teachable kid and always respectful.
“He reminds me very much, personality-wise, of a young Luke Hodge . . . his team-mates just like being around him.
“He was the only under-18 that came into our senior program this year to play senior footy.
“Obviously, we tried to keep him here for selfish reasons. But he’s a really nice talent going forward. He’ll play AFL footy - no doubt!”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/105517/default.aspx
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Think we have a beauty on our hands here.
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For those who have trouble accessing bigpond video, 'Toadvine' on BF has put vision of Helbig and the others on the youtube
Brad Helbig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O3xLRRwv1E&feature=player_embedded
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“He’s from Waikerie, where the famous Mark Ricciuto is from.
so he'll wear cuzzy and roo's number
if he can be half as good as those two...
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Think we have a beauty on our hands here.
Kicks a 50m goal on the right early on in the highlights video, then not long after bangs one through from 50 on the left.
Does look like he can play.
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He can be the Humungous
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Don't dream it's over - Brad Helbig gets his chance in the AFL
Matt Windley
Herald Sun
November 26, 2010
WHILE hundreds of young footballers sat glued to their TV screens last week, waiting to learn their fate in the AFL draft, Brad Helbig was at a pizza shop with his girlfriend.
Citing nerves, Helbig said he couldn't bring himself to watch the telecast and instead waited for a phone call from a former coach to tell him that he'd been drafted to Richmond with pick No. 47.
"We were just at Domino's," Helbig said this week.
"I was getting into the old creamy chicken and cherry tomatoes. She goes all right.
"I relied on a phone call to give me the news, which is pretty strange I guess. I thought it'd be best not to watch to ease the nerves a bit, but in the end it ended up cutting dinner a bit short.
"(Pizza) is something I'll definitely have to cut back on now. We thought on draft night we could go out and treat ourselves a bit. But now I'll have to get the skin folds down and start eating healthy."
The 18-year-old admitted to feeling a tinge of sadness at the thought of moving away from Adelaide, but said he accepted the realities of shifting base to follow his AFL dream.
It's a dream that seemed far from reality, however, when Helbig failed to make the cut for the South Australian under-18 team this year.
But instead Helbig made the most of the setback and caught the eye of the Tigers by making a name for himself as a tough inside midfielder for SANFL club West Adelaide.
"I was always at training, but I just never got selected to play a game," he said of his omission from the national championship side.
"But I talked to a lot of people and was surprised by the amount of players that had been drafted that didn't get a gig in the national championships.
"Not getting picked for SA meant I could go back to West Adelaide. I played reserves and then eventually played seniors so it was a silver lining, I guess, not getting picked."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dont-dream-its-over/story-e6frf9jf-1225961128186
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So now with the recruiting of Helbig and MacDonald I realise why we could aford to trade Collins..
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Hislop? Mcdonald. DEa. Helbig. Hicks. Nason. Houli. White. Nahas. Webberly. Batcholer. Orielly...
Enough Collins cover IMO
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Can this kid Kick or what!! He makes kicking goals from outside 50 look easy. :thumbsup
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One positive from Jack being subbed off early was Helbig coming on and showing some good signs in only his second game especially in the third quarter. He was running to the right spots to find the footy. He's still got a long way to go I know but I liked the glimpses I saw from him tonight. Nice long goal in the second quarter as well.
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His goal in the second was great . Good long kick from 50. Nice prospect and have not been disappointed with his first two games. Did enough tonight also to warrant selection next week. :thumbsup
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Brad might have found his spot, looked good across half back.
He has a lethal handball. A couple of the had some heat and sliced the dons open.
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Thought he did well tonight and showed he had a place in AFL footy in time. One of the few positives along with Griffiths.
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yeah he went alright tonight, just has to make sure he completes his marks and doesn't spend em too early. He was doing that in early games trying to do the fast play on thing, looking away too quick and fumbling but he did a lot better tonight. Griff is rolls royce, we get him up and running full time...look out.
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Good game from the youngster. Showed more experienced players how it is done.
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looked a whole lot better on HBF
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Good comments RE: Brad.
Was really good.
One of few positives.
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May have found his place. Thought he was excellent tonight and took some great marks under pressure too. :thumbsup
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Class of '10 is looking ok already.....................Conca, Batchelor, Helbig, Grimes
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Class of '10 is looking ok already.....................Conca, Batchelor, Helbig, Grimes
IMO the class of 2007,08,09 is shaping up okay as well.
Cotchin, Rance, Vickery, Martin, Griffo, Astbury & Post (fingers x'ed).
Just need to clear the landfill and stop trading for ordinary players from other clubs. It seems to be working for the Eagles. :thumbsup
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Out of the draft video: Brad Helbig
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/404239/default.aspx
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Brad the latest Tiger to join the twittersphere...
https://twitter.com/BradHelbig32
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Not sure about Helbig. Doesn't have a great kick on him that I have seen so far.
Will be interesting to see how he goes this year.
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Under the Tigerscope - Brad Helbig
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/417978/default.aspx
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Helbig hit with injury
richmondfc.com.au
Tue 03 Apr, 2012
Promising, young Richmond midfield prospect, Brad Helbig, will be sidelined for at least eight weeks with a torn ligament in his left foot.
Helbig, 20, sustained the injury while playing for the Club’s VFL affiliate, Coburg, against Casey Scorpions last Saturday.
He will undergo surgery tomorrow (Wednesday, April 4) and is expected to be placed on Richmond’s long-term injury list while he recuperates.
“Unfortunately Brad got caught in a tackle and his foot caught underneath him. It has torn one of the ligaments in the mid foot, which will require surgery,” Richmond Elite Performance Manager Matt Hornsby told Roar Vision.
“It’ll be a longer term injury for Brad. He’ll be in a boot initially, and non weight-bearing.
“It gives us an opportunity to focus on his strength, which he has been working hard on anyway.
“It will be really clear what Brad needs to do in his rehab. He’ll have a start point and an end point, and a lot of hard work in between,” Hornsby said.
Full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/132193/default.aspx
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Out for a few months
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Out for a few months
Did u just wake up
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yep..... i didnt see any thread :shh
sorry oe
:outtahere
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yep..... i didnt see any thread :shh
sorry oe
:outtahere
;D
It's mentioned in the Brad Helbig thread Coach
See: http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=12192.msg289223#msg289223
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good morning coach
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No one even posted about the poor kid, Wilbur. I was just trying to make him feel important.
X should hang his head in shame.
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(http://th558.photobucket.com/albums/ss26/CSBDan/Smilies/th_notyet.gif)
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Bit annoying that tuck and miller get games. Would prefer to play helbig and Griffiths even if they hardly do anything. But those 2 players have been interrupted this year.
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... with the Tigers placing Brad Helbig (foot) on the long-term injury list.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/137816/default.aspx
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Bad news for Helbig. I wonder if that was to make way for another player to be elevated :huh
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it was to allow A.Maric to stay elevated
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.... or miller ;D
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.... or miller ;D
Nope A Maric as per the RFC website ;D
"Addam Maric, who initially had replaced Moore on the Club’s primary list, will remain there, with the Tigers placing Brad Helbig (foot) on the long-term injury list."
Link: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/137816/default.aspx
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Cheers :cheers
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Good luck to Brad in his recovery. :thumbsup
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x2
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Promising, young Richmond midfield prospect, Brad Helbig, has been transferred from the Club’s long-term injury list, back on to the primary playing list, as he prepares for his first game in more than three months.
His place on the Tigers’ long-term injury list has been taken by forward-ruckman Ty Vickery, who will be sidelined for the rest of the season following shoulder surgery.
Read full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/141170/default.aspx
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good on the kid. :thumbsup
lets hope he is able to gain a place
in the team before the end of the year.
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Fantastic news. Have high hopes for him. Hope he plays really soon.
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good on the kid. :thumbsup
lets hope he is able to gain a place
in the team before the end of the year.
the things are going all he has to is stay injury free for 2 or weeks and he's in :-\
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good on the kid. :thumbsup
lets hope he is able to gain a place
in the team before the end of the year.
the things are going all he has to is stay injury free for 2 or weeks and he's in :-\
yep looks like it as the players
go down, isnt there a couple more
to miss this week. :pray
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Missed him loads.
Likes like fight. Mid size forward (not midget or skinny) eith some skill
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all for giving him and arnot as many games as possible for the rest of the season.
thing is while i think he has talent i dont get the expectations on him. he will come into the team and much like last yr play more for the experience than any real impact he may have.
his first yr was a learning experience his second has been destroyed by injury. hes still on the undersized side and he has a fair bit to work on which wont be fixed in the short term.
all im saying is yep lets play him when hes ready but ffs dont expect too much atm from him.
personally i would like to see him get a run off hb hes quick hes accountable a good kick and hes hard at it. that would probably mean houli goes into midfield rotations.
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Playing Coburg reserves today. Be great if he can get back to the seniors before seasons end.
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Brad tweeted this morning that he hadn't been up so early for a game since the U13s lol. Hopefully he got through today okay.
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Was named as one of Coburg 2nds best players.
Good signs for the kid.
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Will be in the seniors in 3-4 weeks I reckon.
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Was named as one of Coburg 2nds best players.
Good signs for the kid.
Good to hear. He should get promoted to the Coburg seniors next week as even underdone he couldn't be any worse than what Coburg has running around today.
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Good news. Play him in Coburg seniors next match
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VIDEO: Brad Helbig returns to the seniors this week and speaks about his comeback ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roarvisionarchive/tabid/11454/contentid/475425/default.aspx
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Does anyone know bad Helbig's ankle injury is? Hopefully it's only a sprain and he's fine for the start of preseason.
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/486323/Helbig%20injury/
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i reckon he gas busted his foot again
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Did anyone see him come back on?
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I'm not sure if he came back on?
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He was told 3 weeks ago his season was over so no, he didn't come back on....
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kids mates told me he didnt come back on
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Pepper your Angus people, coz I just got confirmation he didn't come back on
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kids mates told me he didnt come back on
Yeah but if Greg White had of been playing he would have come back on for sure...
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kids mates told me he didnt come back on
Yeah but if Greg White had of been playing he would have come back on for sure...
Greg white was told 3 weeks ago that he would have come back on....
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brad helbig @BradHelbig32 twitter:
"Go under the knife again tomoro..... Will be worth it tho to get this stinking plate out if my foot!!!"
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brad helbig @BradHelbig32 twitter:
"Go under the knife again tomoro..... Will be worth it tho to get this stinking plate out if my foot!!!"
hope this kid gets a go at it next year. :thumbsup
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Horrible disposal
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Might kick better with the metal out of his foot. :scream
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Might kick better with the metal out of his foot. :scream
Or worse
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Helbig getting into the spirit of Mo-vember ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7IkGBDCQAAhac9.jpg)
https://twitter.com/BradHelbig32/status/266315013738872832/photo/1
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to me hes a defensive mid we should be grooming him as jacksons replacement asap.
hes quick hard at it and contests and tackles well. finds his own ball with decent skills, will be a real good size in a few more seasons. injuries and size people just be patient theres a bit to work with.
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Helbig getting into the spirit of Mo-vember ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7IkGBDCQAAhac9.jpg)
https://twitter.com/BradHelbig32/status/266315013738872832/photo/1
Gee, talkabout a set of cannons, i can see the influence of Burgo already :shh
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:fishing
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Helbig getting into the spirit of Mo-vember ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7IkGBDCQAAhac9.jpg)
https://twitter.com/BradHelbig32/status/266315013738872832/photo/1
Gee, talkabout a set of cannons, i can see the influence of Burgo already :shh
"Burgo" joined Port
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to me hes a defensive mid we should be grooming him as jacksons replacement asap.
hes quick hard at it and contests and tackles well. finds his own ball with decent skills, will be a real good size in a few more seasons. injuries and size people just be patient theres a bit to work with.
this is what i think Mr Craw. :thumbsup
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Now we can go after lyndan dunn and have twin creeps... :shh
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to me hes a defensive mid we should be grooming him as jacksons replacement asap.
hes quick hard at it and contests and tackles well. finds his own ball with decent skills, will be a real good size in a few more seasons. injuries and size people just be patient theres a bit to work with.
Agree
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poo kick
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Now we can go after lyndan dunn and have twin creeps... :shh
and Dennis Armfield.
Triple MO creeps
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to me hes a defensive mid we should be grooming him as jacksons replacement asap.
hes quick hard at it and contests and tackles well. finds his own ball with decent skills, will be a real good size in a few more seasons. injuries and size people just be patient theres a bit to work with.
:clapping
I agree with this, I like the kid, I think he'll be ok.
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Likes how Helbig goes about it.His disposal can be a bit iffy at times but there is plenty of upside in him.Would be an improvement on Jackson.
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Sign long term. Not crows
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I'd like to see him come on because he is someone we generally don't include in our list of mids going forward so for him to make it would be a bonus.
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Helbig getting into the spirit of Mo-vember ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7IkGBDCQAAhac9.jpg)
https://twitter.com/BradHelbig32/status/266315013738872832/photo/1
Gee, talkabout a set of cannons, i can see the influence of Burgo already :shh
"Burgo" joined Port
Isnt our guy , peter burge ::)
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Now we can go after lyndan dunn and have twin creeps... :shh
and Dennis Armfield.
Triple MO creeps
Dunn looks like a creep, but armfield is a different unit altogther.
More on the p******le type look :shh
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Now we can go after lyndan dunn and have twin creeps... :shh
and Dennis Armfield.
Triple MO creeps
Dunn looks like a creep, but armfield is a different unit altogther.
More on the p******le type look :shh
They all look like that including Hlbig and Ivn Maric with that moulee
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They all look like that including Hlbig and Ivn Maric with that moulee
Are you lumping Ivan and his glorious mullet with those freaks?
:(
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Sheesh I hope not, I have nothing against dunn or armfield but a year round movember tribute is just a lil scary- like what are you hiding under that mostache?? :shh
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They all look like that including Hlbig and Ivn Maric with that moulee
Are you lumping Ivan and his glorious mullet with those freaks?
:(
Yes.
Looks like one of those _________ mentioned before.
Hope he doesn't do a mo for movember
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Ivan will get you for this.
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Ivan will get you for this.
Ivan the terrible.
Should make a horror/slasher/creep/weirdo movie with that moulee
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Helbig getting into the spirit of Mo-vember ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7IkGBDCQAAhac9.jpg)
https://twitter.com/BradHelbig32/status/266315013738872832/photo/1
Gee, talkabout a set of cannons, i can see the influence of Burgo already :shh
"Burgo" joined Port
Isnt our guy , peter burge ::)
The stuff is Pete Burge? :lol
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poo kick
aka ≤h1†kiçker
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Helbig getting into the spirit of Mo-vember ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7IkGBDCQAAhac9.jpg)
https://twitter.com/BradHelbig32/status/266315013738872832/photo/1
Gee, talkabout a set of cannons, i can see the influence of Burgo already :shh
"Burgo" joined Port
Isnt our guy , peter burge ::)
The stuff is Pete Burge? :lol
the bloke who replaced Matt Hornsby.
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poo kick
aka ≤h1†kiçker
Affirmative
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Helbig getting into the spirit of Mo-vember ...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7IkGBDCQAAhac9.jpg)
https://twitter.com/BradHelbig32/status/266315013738872832/photo/1
Gee, talkabout a set of cannons, i can see the influence of Burgo already :shh
"Burgo" joined Port
Isnt our guy , peter burge ::)
The stuff is Pete Burge? :lol
the bloke who replaced Matt Hornsby.
We couldn't get Burgess so we decided to find some random guy with a similar name?
Typical Richmond :banghead
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:shh
65 Brad Helbig: Liked brads game alot. Played the sweeper role really well. Dont remember him having such a good skill set. Hitting targets all day. Important first or second link in the chain pressing forward. Needs a bit more time in the gym. Copped a knocked and was hobbling in the last, told the trainer he was fine, but looked sore. I think ankle. Happy with what i saw for his future prospects.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/practice-match-coburg-v-northern-blues.995632/page-7
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Think we have a beauty on our hands here.
:cheers
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Thats my mail too :shh
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I want to see this bloke playing, lives and breathes the tiger of old mentality but there is one problem...
Who do we drop? That is when you know that the depth is getting pretty good here ! :gotigers
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Like Astubry, played well for Coburg :clapping
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Good news
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Good news
Great news.
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Brad Helbig
Had a fine game in the midfield, picking up 26 disposals. Also used the ball really well between the arcs. Was a significant factor in our offensive game.
:clapping
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-07-23/coburg-report-round-14
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Would be a great addition to the team moving forward. Tough hard at it player will add to our group moving forward. Don't know who makes way for him ATM but i would find space.
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Takes no poo like arnot
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Like to see 3 or 4 good games in a row first at vfl, has disappointed in the past at afl level , doesn't have the poise and cool head of a petterd. Step in the right direction though :shh
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kid can play and he does have good skills. he is tough and he can run. still think he would make a great hbf in the morris mould. when playing for us id play him there easing him into midfield roles over time.
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He s played 1 or 2 decent games at afl, both as a HBF
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kid can play and he does have good skills. he is tough and he can run. still think he would make a great hbf in the morris mould. when playing for us id play him there easing him into midfield roles over time.
:thumbsup
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I like him as a HFF
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Me too
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:-*
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In good form. Natural footballer.
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Good to hear in best. Needs to find consistency.
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Needs a clean run with his body :pray
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Often forget this bloke even exists.
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Takes no poo like arnot
Often forget this bloke even exists.
Good footballer has gonads too
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Richmond also has yet to recommit to young player Brad Helbig. He is managed by Greg Size of Deliver Sports Management, who said he was keen to stay at Punt Road. Size said several other clubs had expressed interest in him as a big-bodied midfielder.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/watts-set-to-stay-at-melbourne-20130910-2tid8.html#ixzz2eVUTOsl6
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Would sign him up
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Would think if they can get a good trade deal from him (late 2nd rounder or early 3rd rounder) they'd do that sort of deal
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Would think if they can get a good trade deal from him (late 2nd rounder or early 3rd rounder) they'd do that sort of deal
Hasn't quite come on as hoped, had a lot of promise. If they could get what you've said that would be some effort considering he was drafted as a 3rd rounder (IIRC)?
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Only 21 yoa.
Another that it'd be better to keep.
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Only 21 yoa.
Another that it'd be better to keep.
They may still keep him all depends on what's on offer doesn't it?
he's not an "untouchable"
If GWS, Melbourne or the Bulldogs were to offer their 3 round draft pick for him the club would be crazy not to consider it
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2nd rounder, don't think I'd take a 3rd
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2nd rounder, don't think I'd take a 3rd
2nd round would be perfect
But just thinking their 3rd rounders are clsoe to our 2nd round pick ;D
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I would. Newer recruits have gone past him. Always injured and has contributed zip. May as well get the pick back we spent on him, reload and try again.
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I don't rate 3rd rounders.
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You're a third rounder.
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Big bodied? Thought he was still skinny.
I'd give him another year. Good skills. Otherwise a wasted investment unless we get a good pick.
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Peptides were keen on him when drafted.
Straight swap.Joe Daniher.
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I don't rate 3rd rounders.
Don't rate these at all?
Matty Arnott, Luke McGuane, Bachar Houli (was a 3rd rounder when picked by Essendon)
A few from other clubs:
Nathan Vardy (Geelong)
Rory Sloane (adel)
Ben Stratton (Hawks)
Sam Reid (Syd)
And what about 4th rounders? Ryan O'Keffe of Sydney an absolute gun player he was a 4th rounder
Plenty of gems out there just have to find them and more importantly be able to develop them
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Still, the chances of finding a player like that in the 3rd round aren't great.
Combination of research, development and luck. However Richmond had improved in that regard so who knows...?
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Helbig is not skinny. His form warranted games as did McBean (Lonergan, Grigg, Pettard, McGaune, Aaron Edwards). List management has been poor and I fear for the future evolution of the list under Hardwick and co.
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I don't rate 3rd rounders.
Don't rate these at all?
Matty Arnott, Luke McGuane, Bachar Houli (was a 3rd rounder when picked by Essendon)
A few from other clubs:
Nathan Vardy (Geelong)
Rory Sloane (adel)
Ben Stratton (Hawks)
Sam Reid (Syd)
And what about 4th rounders? Ryan O'Keffe of Sydney an absolute gun player he was a 4th rounder
Plenty of gems out there just have to find them and more importantly be able to develop them
let's not forget Shane Tuck was taken at pick #73
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drafting has become more precise since the drafts of shane tuck and ryan okeefe
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Helbig is not skinny. His form warranted games as did McBean (Lonergan, Grigg, Pettard, McGaune, Aaron Edwards). List management has been poor and I fear for the future evolution of the list under Hardwick and co.
Helbig's form warranted games?
When he got his chance he was like a fish out of water and played poorly
Then he got injured (again)
Happy to give him another season but if a good offer comes along that moves us higher in the draft order we have to look at it. If the offer doesn't suit us then sign for another season but that has to be it.
Same goes for most on our list, it's harsh but it is the reality of list management
Our problem for too long is we've held onto some blokes a season or two too long. I know every player is different and their development times vary but at some point you have to say times up and make a call on them.
McBean didn't get an AFL game this because the defensive side of his game wasn't ready for AFL. That's why Edwards A & McGuane were played ahead of him; defensively their inside 50 presuure was far superior as it should be BTW. It wasn't because he wasn't going to kick goals but because defensively as a 1st year player he wasn't ready. (Was told this at a pre-match briefing)
I would think the fact we no longer rush kids in for the sake of it and that they have to earn their spots by ticking ALL boxes is a positive sign for the future. The fact that Arnott had to wait a season and half to play AFL footy and was ready re all facets of the game shows that our development strategdy is working.
And no doubt it will be further enhanced when we have our own VFL side next year where it wont be about results but development and teaching kids to play
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Agreed. I think the VFL team will be excellent for the younger players and returning injured stars.
Very keen to go watch some of the games too!
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1 more year to see if he can string games together, he has talent.
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Would sign him up
yep me too. hes a good size. he does have good skills good pace knows where to go to get the ball. and hes tough.
could become a decent player. always reluctant to draw a line thru any player who has primarily struggled thru injury.
should be given one more yr but if theres no real improvement after that he would have to go.
other thing is imo we need to build on the number of mids we have not cut into the number. i reckon we were 3 or 4 mids short this yr as it was. tucks retirement only makes it worse.
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You're a third rounder.
Ouch
Don't rate these at all?
Matty Arnott, Luke McGuane, Bachar Houli (was a 3rd rounder when picked by Essendon)
A few from other clubs:
Nathan Vardy (Geelong)
Rory Sloane (adel)
Ben Stratton (Hawks)
Sam Reid (Syd)
And what about 4th rounders? Ryan O'Keffe of Sydney an absolute gun player he was a 4th rounder
Plenty of gems out there just have to find them and more importantly be able to develop them
Was expecting this. Some good names can be picked up 3rd round and after but they are more often than not spuds, especially for us. :lol at putting Vardy in there
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You're a third rounder.
Ouch
Don't rate these at all?
Matty Arnott, Luke McGuane, Bachar Houli (was a 3rd rounder when picked by Essendon)
A few from other clubs:
Nathan Vardy (Geelong)
Rory Sloane (adel)
Ben Stratton (Hawks)
Sam Reid (Syd)
And what about 4th rounders? Ryan O'Keffe of Sydney an absolute gun player he was a 4th rounder
Plenty of gems out there just have to find them and more importantly be able to develop them
Was expecting this. Some good names can be picked up 3rd round and after but they are more often than not spuds, especially for us. :lol at putting Vardy in there
would love for us to get our hands on nathan vardy. the only thing that has held him back is injury. lets see 3rd rounders at geelong. vardy, christensen, s motlop, j hunt, t hunt, enright,
reckon most sides could name there fair share. imo 3rd rounders are very valuable id sure as hell rather a pick around 37 - 54 than after.
geez adam goodes, sam mitchell and dane swan were all 3rd rounders swan might have been 4th even.
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So you think you'd be happy swapping Helbig for a 3rd rounder? Some quality can come out of the 3rd round but I'd rather keep a player that's shown a bit than take another punt in the 3rd round
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So you think you'd be happy swapping Helbig for a 3rd rounder? Some quality can come out of the 3rd round but I'd rather keep a player that's shown a bit than take another punt in the 3rd round
If you were to get GWS's 3rd rounder then you are a pick only a half a dozen or so after our 2nd rounder, would think that would be a pretty decent pick to have
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So you think you'd be happy swapping Helbig for a 3rd rounder? Some quality can come out of the 3rd round but I'd rather keep a player that's shown a bit than take another punt in the 3rd round
If you were to get GWS's 3rd rounder then you are a pick only a half a dozen or so after our 2nd rounder, would think that would be a pretty decent pick to have
Each to there own :thumbsup
Maybe I should of said I don't rate our picks in the 3rd round (yes it's a bit contradicting when Helbig was there abouts wasn't he? And our most recent ones look good).
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Wasn't McBean taken with our 3rd rounder?
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Wasn't McBean taken with our 3rd rounder?
:lol :lol
Yep - good point ;D
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Wasn't McBean taken with our 3rd rounder?
:lol :lol
Yep - good point ;D
Plenty of quality in the 3rd round, 4th round and beyond is more speculative.
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Wasn't McBean taken with our 3rd rounder?
Bit early to make a call on him. Alright I'll start throwing some names around and you tell me how quality they are
2004 draft. Judging by this forum Mcguanes a dud, LeCras is good, Travis Cloke was a F/S so ignore that, people seem to think Maric is good (one year wonder so far). So we'll say 2-3? Bats deep doesn't it
3 36 Luke McGuane Broadbeach Football Club Richmond
3 37 Mark LeCras West Perth Football Club West Coast Eagles
3 38 Damien McCormack Dandenong Stingrays Western Bulldogs
3 39 (F/S) Travis Cloke Eastern Ranges Collingwood
3 40 Ivan Maric Calder Cannons Adelaide
3 41 (F/S) Luke Blackwell Swan Districts Football Club Carlton
3 42 (F/S) Jesse W. Smith Calder Cannons Kangaroos
3 43 Michael Newton Murray Bushrangers Melbourne
3 44 (F/S) Mitch Morton Claremont Football Club West Coast Eagles
3 45 Justin Sherman Clarence Football Club Brisbane Lions
3 46 Henry Slattery West Adelaide Football Club Essendon
3 47 David Spriggs Geelong Sydney Swans
3 48 (F/S) Nathan Ablett Modewarre Geelong
3 49 Mark McGough Collingwood St Kilda
3 50 Jayden Attard Dandenong Stingrays Brisbane Lions
3 51 Ben Eckermann Sturt Football Club Port Adelaide
2005 draft 1 maybe 2 good players there
3 36 Jake Edwards Western Jets Carlton
3 37 Jack Anthony Northern Knights Collingwood
3 (F/S) 38 Travis Tuck Dandenong Stingrays Hawthorn
3 (F/S) 39 Jay Neagle Gippsland Power Essendon
3 40 Travis Casserly Swan Districts Richmond
3 41 Rhan Hooper Mt Gravatt Brisbane Lions
3 42 Robert Warnock Sandringham Dragons Fremantle
3 43 Andrew Swallow East Fremantle Kangaroos
3 44 Alipate Carlile Murray Bushrangers Port Adelaide
3 45 Kasey Green West Coast Kangaroos
3 46 Travis Baird Brisbane Lions Western Bulldogs
3 47 Ryan Gamble Glenelg Geelong
3 48 Alan Obst Central District Adelaide
3 49 Michael Rix Coburg St Kilda
3 50 Sam Lonergan Tassie Mariners Essendon
More recent its gotten better you ask? Here's 2010 (2011 and 12 bit early to call). Fasolo good, Helbig everyone seems adament that trading for 3rd round is good so he musn't be that good, Pods good, McDonald seems good, Alex Johnson good. So 4 good players?
3 45 Alex Fasolo East Fremantle WAFL Collingwood
3 46 Daniel Farmer Sandringham Dragons TAC Cup Collingwood
3 47 Bradley Helbig West Adelaide SANFL Richmond
3 48 Alex Browne Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Essendon
3 49 Jacob Gillbee Lauderdale TFL Gold Coast
3 50 Troy Davis Geelong Falcons TAC Cup Melbourne
3 51 Dean MacDonald Gippsland Power TAC Cup Richmond
3 52 Cameron O'Shea Eastern Ranges TAC Cup Port Adelaide
3 53 Tom McDonald North Ballarat Rebels TAC Cup Melbourne
3 54 Jordan Schroder Calder Cannons TAC Cup Geelong
3 55 Angus Litherland Claremont WAFL Hawthorn
3 56 Josh Mellington Murray Bushrangers TAC Cup Fremantle
3 57 Alex Johnson Oakleigh Chargers TAC Cup Sydney
3 58 James Podsiadly (Promoted rookie) Geelong
3 59 Tom Ledger Claremont WAFL St Kilda
3 60 Kirk Ugle Swan Districts WAFL Collingwood
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Bump
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So you think you'd be happy swapping Helbig for a 3rd rounder? Some quality can come out of the 3rd round but I'd rather keep a player that's shown a bit than take another punt in the 3rd round
If you were to get GWS's 3rd rounder then you are a pick only a half a dozen or so after our 2nd rounder, would think that would be a pretty decent pick to have
Not in this year's draft. Very shallow after 35ish.
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I'd give him another year given his injury history, but tbh, apart from being a good size and hard at it, I don't see much in him.
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I'd give him another year given his injury history, but tbh, apart from being a good size and hard at it, I don't see much in him.
Can give the ball a decent hoist at goal on both feet. Don't know about his field kicking though
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reckon you have to look at each draft differently each yr. some are full of top end talent and drop away quickly some run deep.
i still think you can pick up good talent anywhere in the draft if you have the right criterias set in place.
2006 id say about half of the 3rd rounders could be described as servicable at worst.
mark austin, alwyn davey, goldstein, nathan krakouer went okay until he lost interest at gc, josh kennedy, tom hawkins, houli, houlihan. garland, reimers, mckay schofield.
2008 shiels, smith, zac clarke, broadbent, steven motlop, mitch robinson, banfield , sloane, stanley, t hunt, lisle.
of course the backend of the third round is harder the further you go into any draft it is harder.
just my opinion but i reckon theres enough talent in most third rounds to warrant participation. 1st 2nd and 3rd rounders should be reserved for mainly kids.
not certain but 1st rounders go at over 75% 2nd 60 and third round is about 50%
. the overall succees rate for drafts is over 60% that was a fair while ago. could be higher now days as drafts and clubs and junior systems become more and more refined.
just to show how picking individual drafts can skew things just look at 2004. you would be lucky to depending on opinion find 15 good players give or take a few in the entire first 3 rounds of that draft. the whole draft in fact.
yet we as a club invested heavily in that draft and continued after to trade for payers from it.
imo the worst draft for talent in the last 15 yrs at least and 2003 wasnt far behind it.
finally i dont think we can lose sight of the fact that more and more kids are playing the game and like i said above the systems for identifying kids gets better and better 3 rd rounders will become more and more important. failing to regularly participate in the third round ids fraught with danger.
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Brad Helbig in focus
richmondfc.com.au
October 29, 2013
Tim Clarke says: “If you look at the games he played and didn’t play throughout the year, it’s all about continuity for Brad.
He plays one or two good games, then he gets injured. Or, he plays one or two good games, and then plays a half before being injured.
That’s the story of his year.
Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-29/brad-helbig-in-focus
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Tigers re-sign injury-hit midfielder
afl.com.au
November 15, 2013 9:30 PM
RICHMOND has reaffirmed its faith in Brad Helbig, with the injury-plagued midfielder set to re-sign with the Tigers for 2014.
As Richmond finalises its 2014 list ahead of the December 2 deadline, AFL.com.au understands it has agreed to terms with Helbig for next season, with a contract expected to be signed next week.
Helbig, 21, came out of contract at the end of the 2013 season, a year when he played just one senior game, in round five against Fremantle.
Helbig suffered a hamstring injury in that game that ruled him out for the next three rounds and he spent the remainder of the season in the VFL.
He was on the verge of breaking back into the Tigers' team as the finals approached, having been named an emergency for their round 21 clash with Carlton, but suffered a season-ending ankle injury in the VFL a week later.
Helbig has played just 16 games in three seasons at Richmond since being selected with pick No.47 in the 2010 NAB AFL Draft.
When fit, the South Australian is quick, courageous and a fierce tackler.
He made his debut in round one, 2011, and went on to play 10 games in an encouraging first season.
In 2012, an early-season left foot injury sidelined Helbig for two months before he returned to play the Tigers' final five games of the year.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-15/tigers-show-faith-in-helbig
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Can't kick. Happy to give him 1 or 2 more years to prove me wrong
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Can't kick. Happy to give him 1 or 2 more years to prove me wrong
Doesn't play within his limitations. Tries for all-or-nothing kicks. When they come off, it looks great. When they don't, they're absolute shanks.
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Really needs to pay the club back for this "faith"..... :-\
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What a coup :shh
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You would think that 2014 is Brads last Hoorah,if he doesn't step up
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Good signing. Hard nut with great foot skills. Just needs to get the rig in order. :thumbsup
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Can kick
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Really needs to pay the club back for this "faith"..... :-\
Are you implying he hasn't fully applied himself yet?
If you are, to be fair to the young fella his body has failed him. Perhaps it's a bit of luck he needs to repay the faith WAT.
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Can kick
prfft
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Helbig has a new tatt ....
(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/457499675-brad-helbig-shows-off-a-new-tattoo-on-his-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QU330d%2fiGQNuV8bp2fmWAcT4ASKBgHfX8GCZPE6Pn4tfzruAzTSbde%2bE45a9Btweog%3d%3d)
http://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/brad-helbig-shows-off-a-new-tattoo-on-his-shoulder-during-a-news-photo/457499675
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Will go past houli
Bookmark it
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Judge you must really see something in Brad,because the countless reserve games I have seen he has shown to be a consistant ball winner and hard it too,but currently he seems light years away from Houli.one area in particular he seems miles behind is his run and carry
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I think he's got spunk. I reber an early game someone triedto go him and he jumped up like a cut snake
He is a good kick and I was apprehensively posting that due to the run and carry part of the game.
Outside lids houli is maybe our best - perhaps we will evolve to hawthorn style lethal kicking and houli won't be essential. I still think he's too soft for the back line , butbhes got talent
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Wasn't McBean taken with our 3rd rounder?
nope the beaner was taken at pick 33 a second rounder.
im pleased to see helbig given another yr.hopefully he has an injury free preseason and 2014 season and he can prove he belongs on the list.
lets face it brad is 22 before a ball is bounced it is time to put up or get the chop.
i do like him as a player and he just needs to make the transition from vfl to afl if possible.
i would dearly have loved for us to play him off hb when we first got him. i still think he would make a good defender or run with player.
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He was our third selection ...
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Wasn't McBean taken with our 3rd rounder?
nope the beaner was taken at pick 33 a second rounder.
Great. Now claw's racist too.
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Confident he will become a good player at a freo or Sydney / port
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Put him in for Hampson
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Got some spunk about him this guy
A real shame to be delisted without seeing what he can do
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I'd be happy to let him go TBH. His toughness is his only above average attribute. McDo and Lennon much better.
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I concur I'd prioritise Lennon and donuts in the starring 18/21. They should be developing next to miles vlastuin conca martin etc.
However I don't think helbig would be going for the same spot in the side, or list. Geigg. Houli. Foley. Pettard. Thomas. Types come to mind. Helbig may only be slightly above average toughness. But we got a fair few below average
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plays like his coached.
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Good first qtr then pettered out. Would rather give a new draftee a go
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Makes Lonergan & Thomas look like silk. Positively JON-like.