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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 18, 2011, 01:49:57 PM
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Tiger players dig deep for Fighting Tiger fund
* Jon Ralph
* From: Herald Sun
* March 18, 2011 11:39AM
RICHMOND's Fighting Tiger Fund last night crashed through the $2.5 million mark, aided by a hefty donation from the playing list.
The club held its gala fundraising dinner at its new $20 million elite training facility at Punt Rd, with the Tigers raising about $1.5 million.
The board, playing list and staff last night pledged $250,000 towards debt relief and football department investment, with $125,000 coming directly from the players.
That figure adds up to $2500 a player, with the Richmond playing list eager to be involved in the funding of their own future.
Club legend Kevin Bartlett last night delivered an impassioned plea to members and supporters.
"Instead of surviving, it's about winning," Bartlett said. "We want to be winners. (Coach Damien) Hardwick and his team deserve the chance to be winners, not survivors."
Richmond president Gary March also used the event to launch a June 10 testimonial for key Save Our Skins figure Neville Crowe, who has been battling ill health and financial difficulties.
March said he wanted Richmond to be hated and feared by rivals again, and bridging the gap in football department spending was a start.
"We want to be the best, the most successful, and the most loathed club in the AFL," he told the crowd of 200, which included club greats Tommy Hafey and Francis Bourke.
"We want to be arrogant and the envy of all clubs. I want to be disliked. I want to be loathed."
With last night's financial commitments and several big donations from Richmond figures determined to remain anonymous, the Tigers are nearly halfway towards their goal of raising $6 million.
Richmond captain Chris Newman also welcomed Tigers champion Matthew Knights back to the club.
"I played some footy with Knighter and got the honour of chairing him off in his last game against Essendon. Having ex-players and their influence around the club can only be a positive going forward," Newman said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tiger-players-dig-deep-for-fighting-tiger-fund/story-e6frf9jf-1226023873501?from=public_rss
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I'm close to loathing Gary March already, not far to go Gaz :thumbsup
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It's a great contribution by the players, there was absolutly no obligation for them to contribute to the fund especially when you take into consideration the amount of young people with smallish contracts on our list, it is a commendable effort.
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It's a great contribution by the players, there was absolutly no obligation for them to contribute to the fund especially when you take into consideration the amount of young people with smallish contracts on our list, it is a commendable effort.
Agree with Rog on this. Players made a fantastic showing. Would rather we just had Brett Deledio, Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin and Chris Newman just sign say 100 jumpers each preferably with the new Jeep logo over a period of some week (1 signature on 1 jumper only) and for the club to sell each jumper for say $500. I think this raises about $250,000. Id buy a jumper, Im sure plenty of others would as well.
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Tigers investing in future
Melissa Woods
17:33 AEST Fri Mar 18 2011
Richmond players are invested in their own futures by contributing to the club's Fighting Tiger Fund, says chief executive Brendon Gale.
With an ambitious target of $6 million for the year, the Tigers got off to an impressive start at a function on Thursday night, reaching approximately $2.3 million.
The fundraiser attracted some of Richmond's alltime greats including Kevin Bartlett, Francis Bourke, Neville Crowe, Tom Hafey and Matthew Knights.
Reigning Coleman medallist Jack Riewoldt announced on behalf of the current playing group that they would contribute $125,000.
Gales said he was impressed by the players' initiative.
"I was blown away to be honest," he said on Friday.
"I had an indication they were going to contribute but it wasn't something they were told to do or asked to do.
"They're collectively a pretty young group so to contribute $125,000 is fantastic.
"The board, the staff and the players, we've all got skin in the game and I think that's really important."
Half the money will be used to pay off existing debt of $4.5 million while the rest will be invested in the football department to ensure the Tigers keep up with the AFL pace-setters.
Premiers Collingwood are believed to have spent over $2 million more than Richmond on their football department last year.
"The fund-raising's about being as good as we can be," said Gale.
"Investment in the football department really matters these days and we've got to get with the program."
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8225828
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The thing that strikes me about the players donating is that some will not be around to reap the benefits.
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I wonder what Matty Knights donated
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Bachar Houli ?
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I wonder what Matty Knights donated
lets hope it wasnt his coaching skills.
Gladly take him back and accept his donations but lets face it he was one of the worst coaches of the last 10 years
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Took an average list to the finals and taught them an attacking brand of footy that was good enough to beat top 4 sides. If he'd done that at Richmond you'd hail him as a messiah. Knighta deserves more respect.
Hopefully he tipped in some of his Bombers payout into the FTF :lol
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Took an average list to the finals and taught them an attacking brand of footy that was good enough to beat top 4 sides. If he'd done that at Richmond you'd hail him as a messiah. Knighta deserves more respect.
Hopefully he tipped in some of his Bombers payout into the FTF :lol
True. Essendon were one of the few sides to contsantly crack st kildas defensive zones. It's just that for some inexplicable reason he went down the path of offence first then defence. The board that appointed him has to take as much, if not more responsibility for this.
considering the trouble we had in the pre season in breaking the defensive zones I'd be more than happy to have his input in this area.
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can anyone tell what our salary cap is ?
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can anyone tell what our salary cap is ?
reportedly 92.5% and we are paying the minimum. front loading contracts has also been rumoured which Im sure some other clubs also do, everyones starting to prepare for free agency.
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can anyone tell what our salary cap is ?
reportedly 92.5% and we are paying the minimum. front loading contracts has also been rumoured which Im sure some other clubs also do, everyones starting to prepare for free agency.
What the club is looking at is not front loading Flags, it's called "Pre-paying" alot of clubs are doing it these days
Under the current AFL rules if a club isn't paying 100% of the salary cap then they have room to prepay some of the following seasons contract
Eg if a player is one $200k a year they can be paid the $200k in 2011 plus say another $50K out of next years contract, it frees up more salary cap space as the $50k is counted in the 2011 cap rather than the 2012 cap.
We are not doing this yet but we want to
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question 92% of what ?
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question 92% of what ?
Not sure what the total cap is Jack - think it is near $7mil
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lets say 6.4 mill then is paid to players
That would mean the players donated on an average approx 2% of there salary. $125,000 ?
Thats not taking into account the $$$$$$$$ they get paid for marketing.
Considering there managers take(they give ) an average of 5% of there salary to there managers, and a further 25% of money they get from marketing.
And we should also consider sportsmans nights and cash appearances.
I would not of thought that $125,000 was a huge sum in the context of things
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Unbelievable jack.
For someone on say $50k (not talking footballers here, average joes) 2% would be $1000
If every supporter donated 2% of their income we would wipe the debt out real quick (which aint gunna happen), yet you think it is not enough for the players to donate 2%, when a number of those players will not even be around to reap the benefits.
What % of your income have/will you donate?. I know I wont get near 2%
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lets say 6.4 mill then is paid to players
That would mean the players donated on an average approx 2% of there salary. $125,000 ?
Thats not taking into account the $$$$$$$$ they get paid for marketing.
Considering there managers take(they give ) an average of 5% of there salary to there managers, and a further 25% of money they get from marketing.
And we should also consider sportsmans nights and cash appearances.
I would not of thought that $125,000 was a huge sum in the context of things
where were you sitting jack? I was looking for you and the table you bought all night
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my suggestion is that AFL players are on the average are grossly overpaid.
I know of several who do sportsmans nights for 1500 a gig -cash.
Also,they choose to have player managers who take a min 5%.
lets use an example of last year, Jordon McMahon, $330,000 a year.
2% relates to $6600 when he would of given his manager a min of $16,500 .
I rest my case
Only using Jordon as an example.
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lets say 6.4 mill then is paid to players
That would mean the players donated on an average approx 2% of there salary. $125,000 ?
Thats not taking into account the $$$$$$$$ they get paid for marketing.
Considering there managers take(they give ) an average of 5% of there salary to there managers, and a further 25% of money they get from marketing.
And we should also consider sportsmans nights and cash appearances.
I would not of thought that $125,000 was a huge sum in the context of things
where were you sitting jack? I was looking for you and the table you bought all night
Due to troubles overseas. I did not attend.
More important issues in the world.
I have donated
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Salary cap is near enough to $8 million
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so we pay $7,360,000 to play payments its fair to assume.
plus marketing dollars on top.
Which I beleive is where the managers take 25% of player payments
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my suggestion is that AFL players are on the average are grossly overpaid.
I know of several who do sportsmans nights for 1500 a gig -cash.
Also,they choose to have player managers who take a min 5%.
lets use an example of last year, Jordon McMahon, $330,000 a year.
2% relates to $6600 when he would of given his manager a min of $16,500 .
I rest my case
Only using Jordon as an example.
No one forces anyone to donate and people donate what they want. Personally I wasnt expecting the players to donate at all. That they did is a credit to them all IMHO. :cheers
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my suggestion is that AFL players are on the average are grossly overpaid.
I know of several who do sportsmans nights for 1500 a gig -cash.
Also,they choose to have player managers who take a min 5%.
lets use an example of last year, Jordon McMahon, $330,000 a year.
2% relates to $6600 when he would of given his manager a min of $16,500 .
I rest my case
Only using Jordon as an example.
No one forces anyone to donate and people donate what they want. Personally I wasnt expecting the players to donate at all. That they did is a credit to them all IMHO. :cheers
Agreed
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No one forces anyone to donate and people donate what they want. Personally I wasnt expecting the players to donate at all. That they did is a credit to them all IMHO. :cheers
Spot On :thumbsup
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all i am saying is that the parasites in the sport( the managers ) are taking big dollars out of the game
Its likely that the joint payment to the managers of say Lids and Jack would be over $125,000, if you take into account marketing dollars
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all i am saying is that the parasites in the sport( the managers ) are taking big dollars out of the game
Its likely that the joint payment to the managers of say Lids and Jack would be over $125,000, if you take into account marketing dollars
The managers are the ones who actively source these marketing deals so getting a decent cut from this part is reasonable.
This is the part the managers actually have to work for
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unreasonable
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so you think that if example being that Jack Riewoldt is wanted by say coke to appear in an ad and he gets $100,000 for it, that he should give flying start $25,000?
You are on drugs.
Managers to nothing for AFL.
Even stupid Marty Paske is now a player agent.
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let you into a secret re Flying Start.
They have been running this "'scholarship squad "" for kids say 12-14.
It includes 4 sessions with the likes of Nick Riewoldt etc.
Charge parents $2000 for the experience
They have 200 kids attend. =$400,000 in the coffers.
Good rort I say. Players get $2000 a session for turning up
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I don't get your point
People are happy to pay this, they provide the service, who's losing out here?
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all i am saying that there is alot more money in the system , that possibly could of come our way. -re player donation. Move on shall we
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Well, its made me reconsider and put more in.
Made me proud that the all in the club were putting their money where there mouth is.
Did anyone read the the article on our recruiting back when we had no money. Having a recruiter who was coaching local footy on Saturdays would have been a tough gig.
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all i am saying that there is alot more money in the system , that possibly could of come our way. -re player donation. Move on shall we
lol. ::)
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all i am saying that there is alot more money in the system , that possibly could of come our way. -re player donation. Move on shall we
lol. ::)
jacky you are a funny bloke
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I think what Jack is getting at that: the more success generated from the influx of money into the football department means an increase in player salaries resulting in more money in the agent,s pocket.
a donation to the fund by the players managers sounds like a good investment to me.
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Except the problem with that argument is that player managers get very very little % from their client's AFL salary. This is understandable as all they do for this cut is the negotiation process with the club (or seeking out offers from other clubs)
Their big bucks are from where they go out and seek advertising (or similar) jobs for them. They are the ones who found that work for them so they take a bigger cut.