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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: WilliamPowell on February 03, 2012, 06:58:25 AM
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Just found this on Twitter
"@MorningGlorySEN
Today on the Glory we have our fave American Bob Green, Tiger's CEO Brendon Gale, Long jumper Mitchell Watt and our own @timwatson32"
Doesn't give a time ;D
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On right now gents
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Summary
* Maher asked Benny about Lids not re-signing being a distraction and how much time does Benny spend dealing with it. Benny said he doesn't spend as much time on it as you would think. Both parties are frank and candid about where they want to go. Media puts petrol on it which can be a distraction. You deal with what you know, make presentations and eventually these things get resolved.
* Not noticing much impact yet due to free agency. Expect to see more impact through the course of the year. We've known free agency was coming in for a couple of years so clubs have been prepapring for it. Fair system for players and admins. Up to clubs to offer an environment that players don't want to leave. We have the ME Bank centre which is first class. We've brought in people of real value to help players get the best out of the themselves. Wouldn't think players would want to leave. In fact would players would want to come to Tigerland.
* Rahul Dravid has been terrific with us (Benny said it didn't help him get many runs though lol). Been working on this Indian plan for a couple of years. Significant Indian population in Australia. The tiger is a important secular symbol in India. We want to build a bridge socially and economically to bring about greater cohesion as well as bring in customers for our club. We've hosted the India team in the international cup and Dravid is patron of our Indian Richmond group. Our sincerity has been shown by us wanting to play an exhibition game in India. It's a long-term play. Feb 2012 was an option this time last year but it got put off for a host of reasons. Need to make travelling party safe and secure and make it not an expensive trip. We wish to take another club with us to play. Further discussions over the next 12 months. Victorian premier Ted Baillieu is going on a trade exhibition to India next month and we'll have a representative going. The AFL is enthusiastic about the idea but it is a cautious approach as there's been some issues due to geo-political problems in recent years. What excites the AFL is there is a significant Indian population in Victoria and across Australia, Indians love sport and AFL is the biggest sport in town. Wouldn't it be great to get them involved, become apart of our community as well as become customers of our club. Andy Maher said SEN would love to be our media partner on any Indian trip (you want a free jaunt overseas Andy lol)
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Problem is most of them want stuff for free and they never wanna pay for products or services they use.
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Put Sachin in the forward pocket.
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A burning effigy of Lids being paraded though the city when he bails. :outtahere
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Problem is most of them want stuff for free and they never wanna pay for products or services they use.
At least partly true.
Cricket and possibly hockey aside, Indians aren't really renowned for their willingness to embrace new sports.
Culturally they are quite different to traditional Aussies.
No doubt that they are much more heavily focussed on education than sport and yes they are tight with their money. Certainly value their coin.
It's a valiant attempt by Benny to tap into a new market but I do wonder how much actual benefit the club will actually get out of it for the amount of work we put in.
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http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/128511/default.aspx
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Snip :banghead
Enough with the petty insults and personal sniping
Topic -> back to it >:(
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Here's the audio of Benny Gale's interview:
http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio/Richmond-CEO-Brendon-Gale/3822
The Herald-Sun has also been busy:
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2012/02/03/1226261/715386-rotate-jack-new.jpg)
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.......It's a valiant attempt by Benny to tap into a new market but I do wonder how much actual benefit the club will actually get out of it for the amount of work we put in.
What was the estimate of Richmond supporters is Australia?? Some 500,000. So on a population of 24million that is around 2%
2% of the population of India is some 24 million. You are talking big numbers so the club only has to be moderately successful to double memberships or merchandise purchases
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Gracie you ol bastard.
How the weather up there mate?
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Is this 65's maths class?
Snip :banghead
Enough with the petty insults and personal sniping
Topic -> back to it >:(
I missed it. Davey has been behaving since his return. whoa, look out :shh
Put Sachin in the forward pocket.
TBR would approve
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The Herald-Sun has also been busy:
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2012/02/03/1226261/715386-rotate-jack-new.jpg)
Amateurs! Anyone can see in this photo that the Sun is at a completely different angle to the shadow effect they have put below Jack!
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Here's the audio of Benny Gale's interview:
http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio/Richmond-CEO-Brendon-Gale/3822
The Herald-Sun has also been busy:
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2012/02/03/1226261/715386-rotate-jack-new.jpg)
The Taj Mahal has a better tan.
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rangas dont get tans
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rangas dont get tans
They also can't digest curry. Only burgers rings and razz sunny boys.
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:lol
careful :shh
the red mist is everywhere.
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.......It's a valiant attempt by Benny to tap into a new market but I do wonder how much actual benefit the club will actually get out of it for the amount of work we put in.
What was the estimate of Richmond supporters is Australia?? Some 500,000. So on a population of 24million that is around 2%
2% of the population of India is some 24 million. You are talking big numbers so the club only has to be moderately successful to double memberships or merchandise purchases
True Gracie. As unlikely it is to gain members living India we'd only need a tiny fraction of the total population to show interest and it will still result in big numbers by Australia's size.
The 'G is packed so even getting a chunk of Australian Indians in the crowd tonight to follow us in the footy during the winter would add a few thousand new members. Nothing to sneeze at. If you discover a Y&B heart then you're welcome no matter where you come from :thumbsup.
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2% of the population of India is some 24 million. You are talking big numbers so the club only has to be moderately successful to double memberships or merchandise purchases
How many club memberships do you think Richmond is going to sell to Indians in India Gracie seriously?
They love cricket over there, yet no one even attends the Test matches.
Australian Football. What?
A lot of finances would be used up in trying to gain any genuine sort of a foothold.
A big punt IMO. I'm not surprised it was knocked on the head.
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I applaud the initiative :clapping , way to go TIGERS...for starters we should be looking to introduce yellow & black saris and turbans into the merchandise range, Id wear one...what a crack up if 60,000 fans turned up in Y&B turbans :lol...would be NEWS right around the globe...and the marketing spin from that would be phenominal :shh
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I applaud the initiative :clapping , way to go TIGERS...for starters we should be looking to introduce yellow & black saris and turbans into the merchandise range, Id wear one...what a crack up if 60,000 fans turned up in Y&B turbans :lol...would be NEWS right around the globe...and the marketing spin from that would be phenominal :shh
Yeah wouldn't that be great :help we should get the whole 60,000 to paint there faces black as well, imagine the global spin that would cause :lol :lol
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Yeah wouldn't that be great :help we should get the whole 60,000 to paint there faces black as well, imagine the global spin that would cause :lol :lol
:lol :lol :lol
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careful , i didnt mean sending them up ya dill, I was trying to make them feel part of the team :lol
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'Like a Tigerrrrrr'
How many Indian players are there in the AFL?
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The EPL clubs are all making a big push in India as well.
There's no internationally renowned Indian soccer players either.
Arsenal, Barcelona, Man U all have memberships (about $50) that provide access to exclusive web content. Arsenal has 57000 +/- members who have game/seat access. They're aiming at millions without game access and only "web/club membership".
If you don't try and sructure some form of membership, well you'll get zero dollars. If you try and build something then at least you have a chance.
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Ive seen these indian supporters on TV tonight at the cricket. Anyone wanting those idiots to become our supporters need their heads read. Seriously if a few thousand of these clowns start rocking up to our games they'll stuff up the whole club.
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Ive seen these indian supporters on TV tonight at the cricket. Anyone wanting those idiots to become our supporters need their heads read. Seriously if a few thousand of these clowns start rocking up to our games they'll stuff up the whole club.
Why? They are no more passionate/feral than our own Grog Squad and Cheer Squad. When we are up and about our supporter base and large crowds intimidate everyone else including Collingwood supporters. When we finally start winning and making finals regularly the AFL won't know what hit it ;D.
As for making an impact in India, we'd be basically pioneers. Aussie Rules has barely got a presence anywhere even at amateur level unlike say in the USA or in some European countries where there are regular amateur comps. Apparently according to Wikipedia there's some starter clubs in Kolkata which provided some players combined with Australian-based Indians for the International Cup.
The West Australian Football League toured India in 1969, playing a series of exhibition matches between East Perth and Subiaco Football Clubs, which attracted large crowds and interest.[13]
Australian rules football began in India with the creation of the Indian Amateur Australian Football Association in 2001. The organisation was based in Delhi, but disbanded in 2004.[14]
The potential for the game has several times attracted interest from Australia, with the WAFL proposing an exhibition match for Mumbai.[15]
The next appearance of organised Australian rules in India came with the visit of Brian Dixon to Calcutta in 2006 which resulted in the formation of starter clubs in the city and a platform for the development of an Indian team for the 2008 Australian Football International Cup. The first Indian national team was drawn from players recruited by the AFL India in Kolkata, as well as Indian nationals living in Melbourne.[16][17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_rules_football_in_Asia#India
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How many Indian players are there in the AFL?
Only 5 with Indian decent have played a VFL/AFL game:
Daniel Kerr (Anglo-Indian father)[16]
Jordan McMahon[17]
Clancee Pearce[18]
Fred Pringle[17]
Alex Silvagni (Anglo-Indian Mother)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VFL/AFL_players_with_international_backgrounds#India
From the Australian newspaper - 6/6/2009:
THE debut of Docker Clancee Pearce tonight against Port Adelaide is another example of the code's penetration into non-traditional breeding grounds, AFL talent manager Kevin Sheehan believes.
The 18-year-old is the fifth player of Indian heritage to be associated with an AFL club, according to the league, and tonight joins champion Eagle Daniel Kerr and Jordan McMahon, who last night played for Richmond against his old club the Bulldogs, in reaching the elite level.
The only other player of Indian descent to have played with a current AFL club was Jack Pringle, who stepped out for the Blues back in 1923, while Balraj Singh was on Adelaide's list but did not play a senior game.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/melting-pot-rookie-clancee-pearce-comes-to-the-boil/story-fna7dq6e-1225724032225
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At least we wouldn't need to outsource the clubs call centre on our way to reaching our new target of 500,000 members.
Despite what others are saying, we would have no troubles filling a ground with our new found Indian friends. They turn up in their thousands just to see the opening of a lunch box.
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Proctor & Gamble or Unilever may rock up as well to become a major sponsor HAHAHAHAHA :lol
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Sponsorship is one area where it realistically could become beneficial. As India grows economically, Indian companies who want to promote their goods/services in Australia may choose the RFC to do so via sponsorship(s).
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The EPL clubs are all making a big push in India as well.
There's no internationally renowned Indian soccer players either.
behindnal, Barcelona, Man U all have memberships (about $50) that provide access to exclusive web content. behindnal has 57000 +/- members who have game/seat access. They're aiming at millions without game access and only "web/club membership".
If you don't try and sructure some form of membership, well you'll get zero dollars. If you try and build something then at least you have a chance.
behindnal :lol gets me every time ;D
And how dare you! Indias keeper is sweet. He trained with behindnal for a while
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The EPL clubs are all making a big push in India as well.
There's no internationally renowned Indian soccer players either.
behindnal, Barcelona, Man U all have memberships (about $50) that provide access to exclusive web content. behindnal has 57000 +/- members who have game/seat access. They're aiming at millions without game access and only "web/club membership".
If you don't try and sructure some form of membership, well you'll get zero dollars. If you try and build something then at least you have a chance.
I take your point & like I said it's an admirable goal by Benny, I just have major doubts it will work at any sustainable level for the amount of dollars it would take to gain a foothold there.
You have to remember that soccer is a high profile global game already well establish across the western world before pressing into India.
It doesn't need to market itself.
Our sport on the other hand is still a novelty even to those in most Western countries.
It's hardly fair draw a comparison between AFL and the EPL on that basis.
I'm not knocking the club for looking to establish the connection, far from it. I just have my doubts as to whether the amount of sweat it will take, will reap genuine rewards.
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Ive seen these indian supporters on TV tonight at the cricket. Anyone wanting those idiots to become our supporters need their heads read. Seriously if a few thousand of these clowns start rocking up to our games they'll stuff up the whole club.
you're kidding right, just imagine a group of saucy belly dancers strutting their stuff after ea GOAL :cheers
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Sponsorship is one area where it realistically could become beneficial. As India grows economically, Indian companies who want to promote their goods/services in Australia may choose the RFC to do so via sponsorship(s).
you mean companies like Telstra? ;D
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Sponsorship is one area where it realistically could become beneficial. As India grows economically, Indian companies who want to promote their goods/services in Australia may choose the RFC to do so via sponsorship(s).
you mean companies like Telstra? ;D
Realistically mobs like Kingfisher Airlines and the like who are pushing to become international airlines soon. Theres a rule in India you have be a domestic airline for so many years before you can become an international. These mobs are getting to that line. They'll be like Air Asia and Ryan Air.
Its quite a visionary move by Benny Gale and it may pay off in 5 or 10 years time, given India's growth rate of 7% and 1.2 billion people. Though very few of them are rich enough to pay the sort of money Aussies do as supporters. An add in an airport I saw when I was there in 2010 said "Advertise to the 30 million who can afford to fly", so that's the size of the "rich" market in India.
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It has paid off for Melbourne in China with some good sponsorship coming through.
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I played against some Indian football players in Singapore when I was in the navy, they have a team called the Singapore Wombats, was mixed nationality with some expats. I think HKTiger knows something bout that? That aside, you would treat the Indian market differently, price accordingly, after all, many more punters mean it all evens out.
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HKTiger's wife was the trainer for the Singapore Wombats. Chances are HK could give us some good info about them.
The EPL clubs are all making a big push in India as well.
There's no internationally renowned Indian soccer players either.
behindnal, Barcelona, Man U all have memberships (about $50) that provide access to exclusive web content. behindnal has 57000 +/- members who have game/seat access. They're aiming at millions without game access and only "web/club membership".
If you don't try and sructure some form of membership, well you'll get zero dollars. If you try and build something then at least you have a chance.
I take your point & like I said it's an admirable goal by Benny, I just have major doubts it will work at any sustainable level for the amount of dollars it would take to gain a foothold there.
You have to remember that soccer is a high profile global game already well establish across the western world before pressing into India.
It doesn't need to market itself.
Our sport on the other hand is still a novelty even to those in most Western countries.
It's hardly fair draw a comparison between AFL and the EPL on that basis.
I'm not knocking the club for looking to establish the connection, far from it. I just have my doubts as to whether the amount of sweat it will take, will reap genuine rewards.
Good post, MM.
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I played against some Indian football players in Singapore when I was in the navy, they have a team called the Singapore Wombats, was mixed nationality with some expats. I think HKTiger knows something bout that? That aside, you would treat the Indian market differently, price accordingly, after all, many more punters mean it all evens out.
Who knows, for a game we could change the design of our sash to resemble a garlic naan .....These sorts of ideas seem to be all the rage these days.
We could even let our Indian friends into our games for half price, the sealer could be a complimentary bowl of jungle curry.
Ive seen these indian supporters on TV tonight at the cricket. Anyone wanting those idiots to become our supporters need their heads read. Seriously if a few thousand of these clowns start rocking up to our games they'll stuff up the whole club.
All you whiteys have to pay full price though :thumbsup
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I've played footy against Singapore and other international teams in a tournament in Bali. There is a fair bit of interest.
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I think it's a great idea from Benny to tap into the Indian population. There are already heaps of second generation boys & girls born here so why not get them excited about the yellow & black. He should also look to get Russell Peters on board too.
.... But he'd better hurry up before the kangas decide to steal our idea.
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I applaud the initiative :clapping , way to go TIGERS...for starters we should be looking to introduce yellow & black saris and turbans into the merchandise range, Id wear one...what a crack up if 60,000 fans turned up in Y&B turbans :lol...would be NEWS right around the globe...and the marketing spin from that would be phenominal :shh
Whoa, thats classic bojangleberg! :bow
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I've played footy against Singapore and other international teams in a tournament in Bali. There is a fair bit of interest.
is that the bali nines comp?
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It is indeed.
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Been thinking a bit more about this over the weekend.
Even if the club has no intention of getting a game up in India, it's still very good PR for the local Indian community to believe that we are interested in playing a game there eventually. If nothing else that might attract some locals to the footy club.
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Butter Chicken pregame at the social club.
Players can't beat the opposition,our arses will.
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these idiots who were at the cricket if they come to RFC games to support the Tigers they better not be sitting next to me and behaving like the idiots they seem to be. I have no time to be putting up with idiots.
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these idiots who were at the cricket if they come to RFC games to support the Tigers they better not be sitting next to me and behaving like the idiots they seem to be. I have no time to be putting up with idiots.
What did they do to upset you Ramps?
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barracked for india ? :rollin
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:lol
What's the current sitrep re: your breeders vaporising, Al?
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dad and uncle smokey are such great blokes.
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no more disappearances at this stage smokey.
I'm hoping the culprit tries one of the fat fools and chokes next time.
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no more disappearances at this stage smokey.
I'm hoping the culprit tries one of the fat fools and chokes next time.
;D
Could probably have said the same about some of our recent lists!
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back to the topic ppl!
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these idiots who were at the cricket if they come to RFC games to support the Tigers they better not be sitting next to me and behaving like the idiots they seem to be. I have no time to be putting up with idiots.
What did they do to upset you Ramps?
Indians and Sri Lankans give me the shtz
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these idiots who were at the cricket if they come to RFC games to support the Tigers they better not be sitting next to me and behaving like the d***heads they seem to be. I have no time to be putting up with idiot curry munchers.
What did they do to upset you Ramps?
Indians and Sri Lankans give me the shtz
more than silly wog's who drape themselves in italian, Greek, Croatian flags???
Nothing gives me more of the poos than seeing that.
Indy's, Sri Lankans annoying and a touch smelly, but harmless
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these idiots who were at the cricket if they come to RFC games to support the Tigers they better not be sitting next to me and behaving like the idiots they seem to be. I have no time to be putting up with idiots.
What did they do to upset you Ramps?
Indians and Sri Lankans give me the shtz
I think your mixing this Tigers football forum up for one of your ubermensch chatrooms Ramps.
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these idiots who were at the cricket if they come to RFC games to support the Tigers they better not be sitting next to me and behaving like the idiots they seem to be. I have no time to be putting up with idiots.
What did they do to upset you Ramps?
Indians and Sri Lankans give me the shtz
I think your mixing this Tigers football forum up for one of your ubermensch chatrooms Ramps.
*cough cough*
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these idiots who were at the cricket if they come to RFC games to support the Tigers they better not be sitting next to me and behaving like the idiots they seem to be. I have no time to be putting up with idiots.
What did they do to upset you Ramps?
Indians and Sri Lankans give me the shtz
I think your mixing this Tigers football forum up for one of your ubermensch chatrooms Ramps.
:lol
All in all, welcome to the "The World Is A Wonderful, Joyous, Harmonious, Tolerant Place Filled With A Kaleidoscope Of Colours" thread.
;D
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i like gaylords :cheers
do you like gaylords? :cheers
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i like gaylords :cheers
do you like gaylords? :cheers
I like gaylords. Do you like gypsies?
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i like gaylords :cheers
do you like gaylords? :cheers
I like gaylords. Do you like gypsies?
I like gaylords too (Graham Norton is hilarious, must be something about the camp Irish accent) but I've never met a gypsy.
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these idiots who were at the cricket if they come to RFC games to support the Tigers they better not be sitting next to me and behaving like the d***heads they seem to be. I have no time to be putting up with idiot curry munchers.
What did they do to upset you Ramps?
Indians and Sri Lankans give me the shtz
more than silly wog's who drape themselves in italian, Greek, Croatian flags???
Nothing gives me more of the poos than seeing that.
Indy's, Sri Lankans annoying and a touch smelly, but harmless
Don't you think wogs are a touch smelly too?
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Leave out the negative racial stereotypes ppl (don't we all want to be judged as individuals?!) and get back to the topic!
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I just went to the toilet and it smells like fresh flowers.
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I just went to the toilet and it smells like fresh flowers.
Sweet. I might have to have a piece of that action. You didn't flush did you?