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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Dubstep Dookie on May 19, 2012, 11:27:27 PM
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Where will they come from?
9. Hawthorn MCG Home Sat May 26 1.45pm SEVEN
10. St Kilda Etihad Stadium Away Fri June 1 7.50pm Night SEVEN
11. Fremantle MCG Home Sat June 9 1.40pm FOX
12. GWS Skoda Stadium Away Sat June 16 2.10pm FOX
13. Bye
14. Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away Sat June 30 1.40pm CST FOX
15. Melbourne MCG Away Sat July 7 2.10pm FOX
16. Gold Coast Cazalys Stadium Home Sat July 14 4.40pm Twilight FOX
17. North Melb MCG Home Sun July 22 3.15pm SEVEN
18. Carlton MCG Away Sat July 28 7.40pm Night SEVEN
19. Brisbane 'Gabba Away Sat Aug 4 7.40pm Night FOX
20. Bulldogs MCG Home Sun Aug 12 3.15pm SEVEN
21. Fremantle Patersons Stadium Away Sat Aug 18 2.40pm WST FOX
22. Essendon MCG Home Fri Aug 24 7.50pm Night SEVEN
23. Port Adelaide MCG Home TBA
http://www.afl.com.au/fixtures/tabid/10586/default.aspx
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Hopefully 1 from the next 2 weeks.
Win against Freo, hopefully it's a cold day at the G, make them even more dis-interested.
GWS
Melbourne
Gold Coast
Norf
Lions
Dogs
Poort
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Teams will need 13 wins plus a good percentage to make the finals this year IMO. So we'll need to win another 10 :-\. For mine we won't be playing finals this year. Next year barring a number of key injuries we should. We need to hit this next draft and trade period and free agency and fill those last holes by adding more classier players.
Having said that, for us to win another 10 games:
St Kilda
Fremantle
GWS
Melbourne
Gold Coast
North Melbourne
Brisbane
Bulldogs
Port Adelaide
Plus one of either Hawthorn or the Essendon rematch which will be a home game. Freo even away on current form may be gettable.
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Grimes gone, it's all over.....sorry guys we can win 6 more at best!
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CAN THE TIGERS STILL MAKE THE EIGHT?
Glenn McFarlane
From: Herald Sun
May 20, 2012
Realistically, it's going to be tough from here, but their 3-5 win-loss tally should be better than it is.
Gallant performances against Essendon, West Coast and Geelong have ended in disappointment. But being gallant doesn't pay the bills, and that's the frustration for Richmond supporters. It's been close, but not enough cigars.
The improvement is undoubtedly there, with more to come. The next three weeks will tell the story of 2012 - with critical contests against Hawthorn, St Kilda and Fremantle. The Tigers need to claim at least two of those scalps.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/what-dreamtime-means-for-the-bombers-and-tigers/story-fnd00whc-1226361276913
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Highly doubtful now
Was doubtful before but we need to win more than we lose not sure we can
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I think we can still make the finals. Normally if we were 3 - 5 in a season we would have a terrible percentage after being belted by the better teams and have fallen over the top of some poor teams. This year the draw is lop sided. We have started the season playing all the best sides from last year and this in the first 11 weeks (don't get me started on the draw! :banghead). With a normal draw we would have won at least 2 more games giving us a more balance view of where we are really at.
To make the eight we just need to get on a roll against the poorer sides and just play with the same intensity we have shown so far this season. The hardest part with be covering injuries but we can still do it. Beat the Hawks and/or the Saints and we will make the 8 without a doubt.
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i look at it from another angle. the top 7 as of now is wce, ad, ess, all have 7 wins and barring a collective broken leg will make the 8. sydney nd collingwood have 6 wins and lets face it should make the 8 needing just 6 from 14. hawthorn carlton and freo have 5 wins i have no doubt hawthorn and carlton will at the least make the 8.
that leaves freo as the vulnerable side imo. but they have a massive home ground advantage. the question i ask is, can the home ground advantage overcome their draw. they have 5 wins and only need 7 from 14.
they play wce, adelaide at ps, rich at the g. ess at ps. coll at the g. they really could lose all 5 and face being 5 and 8. our game against them could be pivotal. we could really put the skids under them. to me they have 7 very winnable games after rnd 14.
to top it all off we have geelong stkilds north and the dogs to get get past who are also currently out of the 8.
very tough ask to make it especially when depth is taken into it we wont escape without injuries as we have done to date.
clear improvement has occured but i will say again the bottom half dozen or so in the 22 are not great yet alone having good playeres ready to come in.
our mids in the main have been great this yr we cant honestly expect a lot more from them its all the other areas we need to step up and i think we all agree we dont have the players or they just arent ready.
imo we need to find at least 4 mids yep 4 two of high quality. we need a very good YOUNG RUCKMAN. We need a proven kpf to help jack and maybe win us a game or two. we definately need a big powerful kpd. we definately need at the least one more likely two good medium sized forwards and ditto with the small forwards.
i really really hope we all dont lose sight of the FACT while its nice if we make finals this yr its still more about next yr or the yr after.
to me we are at a cross roads we can either recognise the work that still needs to be done and step into a real future or we can do what we have always done let the now dominate what we do when we arent quite there to be doing it.
yep we are on the right path but we cant lose sight of what has actually got us on that path. sheesh 30 yrs of pain and we are close this off season will be a watershed for us.
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i look at it from another angle. the top 7 as of now is wce, ad, ess, all have 7 wins and barring a collective broken leg will make the 8. sydney nd collingwood have 6 wins and lets face it should make the 8 needing just 6 from 14. hawthorn carlton and freo have 5 wins i have no doubt hawthorn and carlton will at the least make the 8.
that leaves freo as the vulnerable side imo. but they have a massive home ground advantage. the question i ask is, can the home ground advantage overcome their draw. they have 5 wins and only need 7 from 14.
they play wce, adelaide at ps, rich at the g. ess at ps. coll at the g. they really could lose all 5 and face being 5 and 8. our game against them could be pivotal. we could really put the skids under them. to me they have 7 very winnable games after rnd 14.
to top it all off we have geelong stkilds north and the dogs to get get past who are also currently out of the 8.
very tough ask to make it especially when depth is taken into it we wont escape without injuries as we have done to date.
clear improvement has occured but i will say again the bottom half dozen or so in the 22 are not great yet alone having good playeres ready to come in.
our mids in the main have been great this yr we cant honestly expect a lot more from them its all the other areas we need to step up and i think we all agree we dont have the players or they just arent ready.
imo we need to find at least 4 mids yep 4 two of high quality. we need a very good YOUNG RUCKMAN. We need a proven kpf to help jack and maybe win us a game or two. we definately need a big powerful kpd. we definately need at the least one more likely two good medium sized forwards and ditto with the small forwards.
i really really hope we all dont lose sight of the FACT while its nice if we make finals this yr its still more about next yr or the yr after.
to me we are at a cross roads we can either recognise the work that still needs to be done and step into a real future or we can do what we have always done let the now dominate what we do when we arent quite there to be doing it.
yep we are on the right path but we cant lose sight of what has actually got us on that path. sheesh 30 yrs of pain and we are close this off season will be a watershed for us.
Outsatanding post, exactly what needs to happen although i'd like 2kpd ;D
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WINS IN THE BANK
Rd 12 ...GWS
Rd 15....Melbourne
Rd 16...Gold Coast
Rd 19...Brisbane
Rd 23 ...Port
So that take us to a minimum of 8 wins.
GAMES WE SHOULD WIN ON CURRENT FORM
Rd 10 St Kilda
Rd 11 Freo (MCG)
Rd 17 North Melb
Rd 20 Bulldogs
takes us to possibly 11 wins :pray
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO JAG A COUPLE OF THE FOLLOWING
Rd 9 Hawks
Rd 14 Adelaide
Rd 18 Carlton
Rd 21 Freo (away)
Rd 22 Essenden
CONCLUSION....This could be the greatest Richmond team to ever finish 9th :banghead :banghead
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We'll beat the Hawks and roll the Bumsniffers the second time out
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While we seem certain that the current top 8 will stay relatively the same, I'm not convinced. In the past when the fixture was more balanced, I would have agreed with you but this year the fixture is as compromised as the past two drafts and for very much the same reason - to assist in making the new teams competitive.
We are correctly focusing on our draw and how we can secure enough games to contend but I think it would be worth having a look at the other sides in the eight's draw too. Some teams have a dream draw (Adelaide and North) while others a more difficult draw (Collingwood and Hawks I believe). Ours will get easier after this week while some of the other teams above us will get much harder.
This is why I don't think you can right us off yet.
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Grimes gone, it's all over.....sorry guys we can win 6 more at best!
I have a bad feeling that this is correct. :(
We've had a good run with injury so far but our lack of depth is exposed when key players go down.
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We are on the way up.
Either we will make the 8 or just miss.
WE can spend the whole preseason working on getting the forward line right.
Nothing can stop the Tigers now.
NOT EVEN McBURNEY or BANNISTER!
Great times ahead.
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I have 13 wins plus a decent percentage making the finals after using the ladder predictor on the AFL website.
Win this week against the Hawks and we are a chance, lose and it's all over unless we can beat one of Carlton, Essendon, Freo (away) !!! And that's assuming we win the games we should which of course we won't!!!
In my scenario the Swans were 7th with 14 wins and Geelong were 9th with 13 wins. We were 8th but I might have been biased in a few games...
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I will cry if we come ninth again
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I just completed that ladder generator myself and we did come in 9th :o The thing is though, we have no idea how well we will or won't go let alone how the other teams perform.
I won't be surprized if Collingwood and/or Hawthorn don't make the finals and I'm calling it early.....Geelong won't make the 8! :outtahere
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Since 1994, when the league returned to a 22-round home-and-away season, there have been seven instances of teams being in a comparable position to Richmond, at the same time of the year, with five of them going on to make the finals.
Full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/136499/default.aspx
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See guys - have hope! We're not out of the race yet. Our percentage is the most important thing not just for ladder position but also to demonstrate how competitive we have been against the best opposition in the competition. :pray
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I don't think we are out of the race. Not by a long shot.
Key is winning one of the next two. Either Hawthorn or St.Kilda. Both would be nice though and make things a little easier.
Assume we win one of the next two. Leaves us 4-6.
Freo at home. We beat them most time here at the G. 5-6
GWS away. We don't win this and forget finals 2012. 6-6
Adelaide AAMI We'll be brave but I can't see us knocking them off 6-7
Melbourne Away. Another one of these if they haven't one by then they may think they may knock us off. Danger game but it's in our hands 7-7.
Gold Coast@ Cairns. Surely we have learnt our lesson. Hopefully we don't fall into complacency given the quality of opponent we have faced in the first half of the season 8-7.
Nought Melbourne home MCG. We can't lose to these gypsies. At the G we can expose them for pace. 9-7.
Carlton away G. Given our recent record against them-loss 9-8.
Brisbane Lions Away Given our recent record against them win 10-8
Dogs Home at G. Time we put the puppies to sleep. It's been long enough. 11-8
Win one these next two and finals is a cert
Freo away or Essendon home game at the G. Leaves us 12-9.
Last game is Port at home. Should be a win but we have been burnt before. SHould win despite my reservations. Leaves us 13-9.
Percentage shoud not be that much of a problem given where we sit now.
Of course injuries psyche and complacency is something the coaching staff and the players need to look at. Can't afford to let our guard down once we start playing the weaker sides.
Ultimately it is in our hands. How much do we want it how much can our leadership group and next tier players take us as well as our bottom 6-8 and can they have a positive impact.
As I said it's in our hands still and given the way we have played I think we can. Another factor is if we get close enough to make the 8 are the team sufficiently prepared mentally to embrace that or will they drop a game or two in the run in they shouldn't and add the pressure and make their equation much harder with a must win in Perth against Freo or Essendon at the G.
Would rather we need to beat Port to make the 8 in Round 23 or better yet beat Essendon in Round 22 and seal our place. I think we can still make it. :thumbsup
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See guys - have hope! We're not out of the race yet. Our percentage is the most important thing not just for ladder position but also to demonstrate how competitive we have been against the best opposition in the competition. :pray
i think the most important thing is depth thus i dont think we can make it. still not without a chance i suppose.
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Heaps of clubs fall away quick after 20-25. Any quality depth players are either swooped on by opposition clubs or they walk for greener pastures. I agree that we could use a few more back up blokes though. But by recruiting for upgrades then blokes currently starting every week get pushed back to the twos and effectively become depth.
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See guys - have hope! We're not out of the race yet. Our percentage is the most important thing not just for ladder position but also to demonstrate how competitive we have been against the best opposition in the competition. :pray
i think the most important thing is depth thus i dont think we can make it. still not without a chance i suppose.
If we don't win this week or at the very least against the Saints the week after we won't make the finals
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See guys - have hope! We're not out of the race yet. Our percentage is the most important thing not just for ladder position but also to demonstrate how competitive we have been against the best opposition in the competition. :pray
i think the most important thing is depth thus i dont think we can make it. still not without a chance i suppose.
If we don't win this week or at the very least against the Saints the week after we won't make the finals
True Stripes. If we don't win one of the next two then we'll have no chance of being all square at the midseason break which IMO will be the bare minimum to stay in the hunt. On the positive side, today is an opportunity to set ourselves up to be 7-5 at the break with Freo at the 'G and GWS to come after the Saints.
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Well we got one
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If we win next week then itll be on for young and old. Win next week and we are right in this.
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Eight to go. Have to win next Friday night. We need the Swannies to beat up on the Aints bad today. Need to make them sore. Three six day breaks breaks in a row for the Aints, ain't it?
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Eight to go. Have to win next Friday night. We need the Swannies to beat up on the Aints bad today. Need to make them sore. Three six day breaks breaks in a row for the Aints, ain't it?
Not playing amazingly but still giving a Sydney a bath at the moment. Ruckless and a bit of a mix-and-match sort of team. I reckon we're red hot to knock them off.
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after today i am forced to give them a bit more credit than i have and concede we are a genuine chance for the 8. still have misgivings about depth and if injury hits we will battle.
i think our depth improved just a tad today with griffiths i reckon hes capable of holding down chb going by his performance today. if thats the case it frees grimes up to be third man up and give both griffiths and rance a chop out when needed.
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The great thing about Grimes is his speed and ability to play small. Griffiths (assuming he can replicate and develop on today's form) and Rance are more than capable to hold the token two tall forwards. None of them are cumbersome and it suits our attacking style. Chuck in Dea, Batchelor, and Morris and all the sudden we stack up pretty well as a solid, yet mobile, defensive unit. The less Newman and Houli have to actually 'defend' the better, as their kicks are more valuable in rebound and attack.
If we cop too many injuries we'll just have to suck it up. Most teams are like this. Today even without Grimes and Batchelor we were able to get the job done. With a squad of mostly under 25s we won't have the luxury of back up ready depth for a little while longer. As we trade, buy, and draft for upgrades the depth will just happen by itself.
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One down eight to go. Thirteen games remaining. Oh and a reasonable % given who we have played so far. :thumbsup
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8 more wins should definitely get us into the finals.
Freo - W
GWS (A) - W
--------------------------- BYE ...... hopefully it doesn't break the momentum we have going now.
Adel (A) - 50/50 ...... will be a good test although the Pies showed you can win over there.
Melb - W
GC (Cairns) - W
North - W
Carl - 50/50 .... on current form and with their injuries we'd win
Bris (A) - W
Dogs - W
Freo (A) - 50/50 ..... on current form we'd win
Ess - 50/50 ...... should have Rance, Griffs and Grimes back in defence against their tall forwards.
Port - W
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Hawks, Blues and Cats all on 6 wins now so we're only a game out.
Carlton play Geelong and the Eagles in Perth over the next two weeks. So they could fall out of the Eight and let us in :thumbsup.
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Hawks, Blues and Cats all on 6 wins now so we're only a game out.
Carlton play Geelong and the Eagles in Perth over the next two weeks. So they could fall out of the Eight and let us in :thumbsup.
Would be amazing. I think we are a big chance to knock them off next time too. They have Hawks and Pies after Eagles. :lol :lol :lol :lol :pray :pray
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Hawks, Blues and Cats all on 6 wins now so we're only a game out.
Carlton play Geelong and the Eagles in Perth over the next two weeks. So they could fall out of the Eight and let us in :thumbsup.
Would be amazing. I think we are a big chance to knock them off next time too. They have Hawks and Pies after Eagles. :lol :lol :lol :lol :pray :pray
Need to capitalise on our solid % now and have good solid wins against Freo and GWS to push our % to 115+. Furthermore games against Melbourne and Gold Coast should see us as a priority get the 4 points but continue to build our percentage to get to a level where we can compete on a win loss ratio only with the sides around us who have already played the minnows of the comp whose % is sitting at 120+. Imperative we remain focused now that the calibre of opposition appears weaker.
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still think we are a small injury run away from missing. but as every week goes by and we stay healthy and the easier the draw becomes one has to concede we are now a real chance.
really hope we can gift another few young players games like griffiths and they step up and we can pencil in a few more pieces of the puzzle.
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still think we are a small injury run away from missing. but as every week goes by and we stay healthy and the easier the draw becomes one has to concede we are now a real chance.
really hope we can gift another few young players games like griffiths and they step up and we can pencil in a few more pieces of the puzzle.
I think if we can get Astbury up and running we may have solved a few KPP issues. :thumbsup
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Hawks, Blues and Cats all on 6 wins now so we're only a game out.
Carlton play Geelong and the Eagles in Perth over the next two weeks. So they could fall out of the Eight and let us in :thumbsup.
Carlscum out and us in that would be a dream come true.
I would love to play them next week we would smash 'em.
But I still reckon that would happen next time and hopefully that game slams the door shut on any finals action for those cheats. :birthday
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We probably cannot expect to continue at this level for the remainder of the year.
If we can jag a couple of wins when playing poorly and avoid an Essendon like defeat we might just sneak in.
I wonder if we might rue missing one or two wins when playing Eagles, Cats and even Bombers as they were all winnable games
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My final eight is, in this order:
West Coast
Adelaide
Collingwood
Essendon
Richmond
Hawthorn
Carlton
Sydney
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Reckon we will end up 4th or 5th.
Easy draw ahead
No more games at Etihad .
Destiny is in our hands as most of the teams above us either play each other (look at next weeks draw) and or will self destruct, as the Bombers and Carlton will.
Might add we will beat both these teams later in year ;)
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Hawks, Blues and Cats all on 6 wins now so we're only a game out.
Carlton play Geelong and the Eagles in Perth over the next two weeks. So they could fall out of the Eight and let us in :thumbsup.
Carlscum out and us in that would be a dream come true.
I would love to play them next week we would smash 'em.
But I still reckon that would happen next time and hopefully that game slams the door shut on any finals action for those cheats. :birthday
Its not as much a pipe dream as you would think, they have a much tougher draw from here than many other teams and if they dont get Murphy and Carazzo back they might just be F!@#$ed
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Hawks, Blues and Cats all on 6 wins now so we're only a game out.
Carlton play Geelong and the Eagles in Perth over the next two weeks. So they could fall out of the Eight and let us in :thumbsup.
Carlscum out and us in that would be a dream come true.
I would love to play them next week we would smash 'em.
But I still reckon that would happen next time and hopefully that game slams the door shut on any finals action for those cheats. :birthday
Its not as much a pipe dream as you would think, they have a much tougher draw from here than many other teams and if they dont get Murphy and Carazzo back they might just be F!@#$ed
and how sweet would that be?? muhahahaha :birthday :birthday
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After the break the top 8 will start beating up on each other. Carlton will probably drop their next two, but St Kilda have GC next week and will move in before us, but have Adelaide at AAMI the week after when we have GWS. Us, St Kilda and Carlton have byes the same week which is handy. Having Adelaide at AAMI the week after might hurt and we'll really need to knock off Carlton and Essendon IMO to get in otherwise we'll be stuck a game outside the 8. Really can't afford to drop danger games like the Bumdogs.
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My final eight is, in this order:
West Coast
Adelaide
Collingwood
Essendon
Richmond
Hawthorn
Carlton
Sydney
Lol we would be 50/50 to make a Granny with that draw provided Adelaide beat Collingwood in the first week.
vs Sydney at MCG
vs Essendon at MCG
vs Adelaide at AAMI
Granny vs West Coast at MCG :lol
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Reckon we will end up 4th or 5th.
Easy draw ahead
No more games at Etihad .
Destiny is in our hands as most of the teams above us either play each other (look at next weeks draw) and or will self destruct, as the Bombers and Carlton will.
Might add we will beat both these teams later in year ;)
I tell you what ... if we can finish 4th and miss having to play the pies in the finals and we continue to improve then anything could happen.
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one week at a time. :cheers
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one week at a time. :cheers
Yep massive game this week against Freo
Get through that first
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Drop our guard/intensity & anything could happen as evidenced
last night , keep it and we will seriously pants the purple wankers
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one week at a time. :cheers
Yep massive game this week against Freo
Get through that first
spot on.
said we would hunt the hawks down and that was
the style of game we won with.
said last week would would just win (not unlike your 8 point prediction)
this week is an even bigger test i reckon.
will Rossy go full on defensive?
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will Rossy go full on defensive?
Could be our downfall if we play into their hands, stick to our game
and we will be fine
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will Rossy go full on defensive?
Could be our downfall if we play into their hands, stick to our game
and we will be fine
exactly, there are certain sides that we match up well with
and i reckon the frockers we do...but it can quickly go the other way
if they arent mentally switched on.
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My final eight is, in this order:
West Coast
Adelaide
Collingwood
Essendon
Richmond
Hawthorn
Carlton
Sydney
Lol we would be 50/50 to make a Granny with that draw provided Adelaide beat Collingwood in the first week.
vs Sydney at MCG
vs Essendon at MCG
vs Adelaide at AAMI
Granny vs West Coast at MCG :lol
My thoughts exactly :shh
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Ok we need eight more wins to make the eight.
Win-able games are in red
12. GWS Skoda Stadium Away Sat June 16
13. Bye
14. Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away Sat June 30
15. Melbourne MCG Away Sat July 7
16. Gold Coast Cazalys Stadium Home Sat July 14
17. North Melb MCG Home Sun July 22
18. Carlton MCG Away Sat July 28 7.40pm
19. Brisbane 'Gabba Away Sat Aug 4 7.40pm
20. Bulldogs MCG Home Sun Aug 12 3.15pm
21. Fremantle Patersons Stadium Away Sat Aug 18
22. Essendon MCG Home Fri Aug 24 7.50pm
23. Port Adelaide MCG Home
That's seven games so we need to win one of Adelaide, Carlton, Freo and Essendon.
Hmmmm.
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We need to beat the Bombers and Carlton to deserve to be there.
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Any chance we can get in with 12 wins?
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Any chance we can get in with 12 wins?
there's no way in my opinion.
I reckon we'll finish ninth or tenth.
But if we beat carlscum the season will be a positive one. :thumbsup
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For mine its simple, seeing as we are competing with Carlton for the final spot we must beat them. 8 point game. We win the 8 games highlighted and beat Carlton then we play finals.
Our 9 wins must include beating Carlton.
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For mine its simple, seeing as we are competing with Carlton for the final spot we must beat them. 8 point game. We win the 8 games highlighted and beat Carlton then we play finals.
Our 9 wins must include beating Carlton.
or essendon
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Any chance we can get in with 12 wins?
there's no way in my opinion.
I reckon we'll finish ninth or tenth.
But if we beat carlscum the season will be a positive one. :thumbsup
Could not care less who we beat whether its Filth or Bums. The way I see things is we may still win one we are not supposed to and lose to a Nought or Dogs.
For me the critical 2 weeks is Freo away and Essendon in Round 21 and 22.
Furthermore Port in Round 23 is no pushover either. They have ruined our party in the last two seasons and complacency in that game will be fatal.
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What a stuffing miserable time it's going to be if we drop a game to Port or the Dogs or N0rt.
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On the Couch about to talk about if the Dockers have doomed us to ninth again.
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What a stuffing miserable time it's going to be if we drop a game to Port or the Dogs or N0rt.
Can you imagine we miss the 8 because of a loss to Nought? :help
A narrow loss to Nought. :banghead
To add insult to injury they win 8 or 9 games for the year. :help
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The reality is that have the ability to beat anyone including the Blues, Dons, Adelaide and definitely Freo (as long as it isn't wet and the umpires haven't been paid off :shh)....and we have the ability to lose to everyone too :'(.
We've said it before but our season is in our hands. If we drop intensity we get done. The conditions played into their hands and against ours yesterday. I have no doubt that if the weather was better we would have won that game even with the biased umpiring. But as they always say, both teams played in the same conditions so there should be no excuses. :P
I still think we can do this but if we drop another game against an easier side then we can kiss our chance goodbye :banghead
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What a stuffing miserable time it's going to be if we drop a game to Port or the Dogs or N0rt.
Can you imagine we miss the 8 because of a loss to Nought? :help
A narrow loss to Nought. :banghead
To add insult to injury they win 8 or 9 games for the year. :help
Yeah especially if 50% of those wins are already against GWS and GC (shakes head)
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we wont make the 8
saints and freo will end up ahead of us
we will drop from here
next yr is the yr we will maybe get in
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we wont make the 8
saints and freo will end up ahead of us
we will drop from here
next yr is the yr we will maybe get in
yep couldnt agree more
reality set in after the Freo loss
Not that we arent good enough just think we need to find too many wins as well as not having a Saturday like brainfade in any games against Buldogs, Demons, Nought, Port or Suns.
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we wont make the 8
saints and freo will end up ahead of us
we will drop from here
next yr is the yr we will maybe get in
yep couldnt agree more
reality set in after the Freo loss
Not that we arent good enough just think we need to find too many wins as well as not having a Saturday like brainfade in any games against Buldogs, Demons, Nought, Port or Suns.
I think the last game was the exception not the rule. The conditions hurt us on the weekend and may actually sting us into action. We are a real chance of beating Adelaide after the bye too. Don't lose faith yet :angel:
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pipe dreaming
even if we beat adelaide we wont make it
freo and saints have a super easy draw and have more wins already and a higher percentage
same as geelong
when u rely on other teams losing esp 3 teams there is no stuffing chance
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What a stuffing miserable time it's going to be if we drop a game to Port or the Dogs or N0rt.
Could be an idea for the few glass half empty types here to do some pre-emptive medicating.....
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As if we will only lose 3 more games for the rest of the season..
It won't happen... Even if we have 12 wins going into the Port game (which I would bet my life on that we won't) we will find a way to lose it.
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That's it, I'm grabbing the script pad.....
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freo and saints have a super easy draw and have more wins already and a higher percentage
same as geelong
when u rely on other teams losing esp 3 teams there is no stuffing chance
I agree with those comments, not that I'm gonna get hung up on using the "bailey ladder predictor" but if you use it you will see based on freo, saints and cats wins/losses we drop in and out from 8-10th spot. For this reason regardless of 13 wins... Which is what I think well get. We need this freo game to give us 14 wins.
13 wins plus highest percentage for 8th spot
14 wins for 7th and etc
Top spot needs 19 wins plus . It will be collingwood
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What a stuffing miserable time it's going to be if we drop a game to Port or the Dogs or N0rt.
Could be an idea for the few glass half empty types here to do some pre-emptive medicating.....
You know a place where everything is great ;D
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I watch games and I don't trust the administration of them anymore, they are like scripted for an outcome and the umpires appear determined to unravel us early. All the going in hard crap that people say Freo were doing, we did early on and were penalised for, when Freo did it, they were rewarded for fouls. When we dominated in the forward 50 at the end of the game, we couldn't buy a free despite the many infringements but he plucks one out of his arse for Freo as soon as it even looks vaguely viable to kill the game for us. It stuffing stinks and it makes our players second guess and hesitate and it is a tactic used against us in several games where the powers that be have chalked us down to fail because the other mob are tracking poorly on memberships and are crap clubs, ie Freo, St.kilda (where we beat them anyway). Hold onto your hats fellas, because they have probably set us up as GWS scalp.
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I watch games and I don't trust the administration of them anymore, they are like scripted for an outcome and the umpires appear determined to unravel us early. All the going in hard crap that people say Freo were doing, we did early on and were penalised for, when Freo did it, they were rewarded for fouls. When we dominated in the forward 50 at the end of the game, we couldn't buy a free despite the many infringements but he plucks one out of his behind for Freo as soon as it even looks vaguely viable to kill the game for us. It stuffing stinks and it makes our players second guess and hesitate and it is a tactic used against us in several games where the powers that be have chalked us down to fail because the other mob are tracking poorly on memberships and are crap clubs, ie Freo, St.kilda (where we beat them anyway). Hold onto your hats fellas, because they have probably set us up as GWS scalp.
I've never blamed the umpires for a loss but in the Freo game they were terrible to the point of seeing one sided. The Saints game was bad too. I'm not about to put tin foil around my head just quite yet but I certainly hear you owl!
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Im all foiled up and angry and twitchy, Ill admit it lol
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So if we can knock off the Giants this week, and other results go according to plan (West Coast and Adelaide win) we move ahead of Freo on % and onto equal points and equal 8th with St. Kilda and Carlton.
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So if we can knock off the Giants this week, and other results go according to plan (West Coast and Adelaide win) we move ahead of Freo on % and onto equal points and equal 8th with St. Kilda and Carlton.
and imagine we upset Adelaide after the bye
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we'll beat the Crows
Edwards 100th, they'll rename King William Street after him
King Edwards Street
lock it in Eddy
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I reckon we'll beat adelaide also, because we will be switched on
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Fair point about the giants, ive tipped em too
stuffed around with that ladder calculator again, have us with 12 wins, 10 losses and 106.7% thats a great effort it was also ninth place
I was hard on us but you need to be realistic not optimistic when setting these things up
final ladder was:
collingwood 18 wins 124%
hawthorn 17
west coast 16
adelaide 16
sydney 15
carlton 14
essendon 13
geelong 12 107.6
richmond 12 106.7%
st kilda 11
fremantle 11
nought 10 96.7 (dream run and still stuff it up)
hawthorn and collingwood grand final
As you can see imo we can still make finals but it depends on how we beat teams?? do we just beat em or get runs on the board?? diff between making it and not may be less than 1% tragic I know
fwiw the tigers losses imo if we miss out are these: north 12 pts, blues 30 pts, freo 12 pts, essendon 12 pts
Another point I want to make is in rd 22 we play essendon if we lose by 12 pts they finish 7th, cats finish 8th.
If we win by 12 pts we finish 7th essendon finish 8th and cats get knocked out ;D its as tight as that!!
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Fair point about the giants, ive tipped em too
stuffed around with that ladder calculator again, have us with 12 wins, 10 losses and 106.7% thats a great effort it was also ninth place
I was hard on us but you need to be realistic not optimistic when setting these things up
final ladder was:
collingwood 18 wins 124%
hawthorn 17
west coast 16
adelaide 16
sydney 15
carlton 14
essendon 13
geelong 12 107.6
richmond 12 106.7%
st kilda 11
fremantle 11
nought 10 96.7 (dream run and still stuff it up)
hawthorn and collingwood grand final
As you can see imo we can still make finals but it depends on how we beat teams?? do we just beat em or get runs on the board?? diff between making it and not may be less than 1% tragic I know
fwiw the tigers losses imo if we miss out are these: north 12 pts, blues 30 pts, freo 12 pts, essendon 12 pts
Another point I want to make is in rd 22 we play essendon if we lose by 12 pts they finish 7th, cats finish 8th.
If we win by 12 pts we finish 7th essendon finish 8th and cats get knocked out ;D its as tight as that!!
if we lost to either Nought or buldogs il consider this year as a minimal upgrade to last year.
Those 2 wins are a non negotiable and a loss to either will officially end our year and we might as well tank with kids than finish 9th.
If we cant make finals then we need to get games into Elton, Astbury etc etc
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Ok we need seven more wins to make the eight.
Win-able games are in red
12. GWS Skoda Stadium Away Sat June 16 Win :rollin
13. Bye
14. Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away Sat June 30
15. Melbourne MCG Away Sat July 7
16. Gold Coast Cazalys Stadium Home Sat July 14
17. North Melb MCG Home Sun July 22
18. Carlton MCG Away Sat July 28 7.40pm
19. Brisbane 'Gabba Away Sat Aug 4 7.40pm
20. Bulldogs MCG Home Sun Aug 12 3.15pm
21. Fremantle Patersons Stadium Away Sat Aug 18
22. Essendon MCG Home Fri Aug 24 7.50pm
23. Port Adelaide MCG Home
That's six games so we need to win one of Adelaide, Carlton, Freo and Essendon.
Hmmmm.
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I think we need to win 1 of Adel, Carl or Freo.
Then its all up to the Essendon game as a Final itself. Most likely will be if Richmond win they can play finals and make the 8 with a win over Port the following week. If Essendon win they get a home final, maybe even top 4.
Enormous game. 90k+.
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All our remaining games are winnable
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All our remaining games are winnable
Yep, especially if we fancy ourselves as finalists.
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The team works in blocks of 4. So they'll be looking at being at least 3-1 from the next 4 (Adel, Melb, GC, North) and 3-1 from the 4 after that (Carl, Bris, Dogs, Freo). That would leave us breaking at least even across the Essendon and Port games to secure a finals spot (13 wins). 12 wins could sneak us in but we would need to flog a few bottom sides along the way to pump up our percentage.
After the last couple of weeks where our intensity and goalkicking accuracy fell away badly, we really can't look any further than the Adelaide game and rediscovering the mojo we had as a team against Hawthorn and St Kilda.
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The big question.... Can we win those games we "should" win?
A big loss to Adelaide might just smash us mentally and the wheels could fall off.
Or we may go great against Adelaide and lose the unloseable against the kangas or dogs.
As tiger supporters would we be suprised if this happened?
Confidence, belief & want are keys to where we end up. We need every player on board and playing their role. No passengers allowed.
Personally i'm not expecting finals at all this year. So if it doesn't happen it's not the end of the world.
But I have one last wish this year.....
.... To smash carlscum round 18 right out of the finals race. If this happens this year is a positive one.
:thumbsup :gotigers
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Tiges will be fresh as after the bye..
Crows only get a 5 day break.
Dunno if it will work in our favour though.
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How often do things work in our favour?? well hope for the best
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Mitch Clark out for the season with broken foot should we now pencil in a win against the Dees?
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Mitch Clark out for the season with broken foot should we now pencil in a win against the Dees?
I already had it pencilled in, Rance was always going to limit Clark's effectiveness.
:thumbsup
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Mitch Clark out for the season with broken foot should we now pencil in a win against the Dees?
I already had it pencilled in, Rance was always going to limit Clark's effectiveness.
:thumbsup
Going to have his work cut out for him against..... Dunn? :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin
Look out, Watts the mighty swingman might go forward :o :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Dun laugh Dwaino, it's players like Dunn, Bate, Rivers etc that traditionally do a number on us ;D
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Yeah that's true lol. Chuck Watts on that list too :banghead
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Dun laugh Dwaino, it's players like Dunn, Bate, Rivers etc that traditionally do a number on us ;D
Dunn came on as sub and kicked 2 in the last quarter and had a hand in another two. Julian Knight always seems to bob up for a few against us.
We've got them covered.
Someone like Stefan Martin might trouble us though if he plays.
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Don't knock the dees to early, they always fire up against us
They may also have some new recruits on the day... Mcburny or stevic I believe :shh RFC fans brace yourselves
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Adelaide is the key. We win that and we should be top 6 at worst.
After Adelaide we have 6 games atthe G in which we should be favourite in 4 and 50/50 in the other two plus Brisbane and Gold Coast away.
Fremantle away is the only game where we would be outsiders.
However if we beat Adelaide, there is a strong argument that we could be 13 - 6 when we play Freo (Melb, GC, NM, Carl, Bris, WB). With that momentum behind you anything is possible
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Dun laugh Dwaino, it's players like Dunn, Bate, Rivers etc that traditionally do a number on us ;D
Dunn came on as sub and kicked 2 in the last quarter and had a hand in another two. Julian Knight always seems to bob up for a few against us.
We've got them covered.
Someone like Stefan Martin might trouble us though if he plays.
lmao Julian Knight
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Don't knock the dees to early, they always fire up against us
They may also have some new recruits on the day... Mcburny or stevic I believe :shh RFC fans brace yourselves
stuff me I hope not...
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However if we beat Adelaide, there is a strong argument that we could be 13 - 6 when we play Freo (Melb, GC, NM, Carl, Bris, WB). With that momentum behind you anything is possible
We've never won more than 4 in a row under Dimma
Can't see us rolling out 7 or 8 on the trot TBH
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With us, Blues and Freo losing that means one of St Kilda or North will be a game ahead in the Eight by the end of the round. Geelong should be two games ahead.
Tempting to hope North beats the Saints tomorrow so we won't be a game plus percentage out.
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With us, Blues and Freo losing that means one of St Kilda or North will be a game ahead in the Eight by the end of the round. Geelong should be two games ahead.
Tempting to hope North beats the Saints tomorrow so we won't be a game plus percentage out.
If North win tomorrow, lose to the Eagles next week, the tankers lose to the pies and the Bums beat the Saints we should be in the 8 next week if we beat Melbourne.
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need to win 7 of 9 the ask is getting harder. will deserve to make it if we can win those 7. hopefully we can have at least one more win against one of the fancied teams.
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need to win 7 of 9 the ask is getting harder. will deserve to make it if we can win those 7. hopefully we can have at least one more win against one of the fancied teams.
Yeah fair call Ill agree with deserving to make finals if we win 7 0f 9 because that would be a feat, but to be brutally honest its not going to happen
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Were not getting pumped so any game is winnable but yeh 7 out 9 sux
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Seasons on life support right now
But can I say kick 8 goals in a qtr and lose you don't deserve to play finals IMHO
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Seasons on life support right now
But can I say kick 8 goals in a qtr and lose you don't deserve to play finals IMHO
Bingo
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maybe l should enter the draft & bring back the biff ;D
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Seasons on life support right now
But can I say kick 8 goals in a qtr and lose you don't deserve to play finals IMHO
Smacks of the Gold Coast game last year when we kicked 6.8 to 1.2 in the first and kicked 3 more majors for the rest of the match.
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Ok we need seven more wins to make the eight.
Win-able games are in red
12. GWS Skoda Stadium Away Sat June 16 Win :rollin
13. Bye
14. Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away Sat June 30 loss but not unexpected
15. Melbourne MCG Away Sat July 7
16. Gold Coast Cazalys Stadium Home Sat July 14
17. North Melb MCG Home Sun July 22
18. Carlton MCG Away Sat July 28 7.40pm
19. Brisbane 'Gabba Away Sat Aug 4 7.40pm
20. Bulldogs MCG Home Sun Aug 12 3.15pm
21. Fremantle Patersons Stadium Away Sat Aug 18
22. Essendon MCG Home Fri Aug 24 7.50pm
23. Port Adelaide MCG Home
That's six games so we need to win one of Carlton, Freo and Essendon.
Hmmmm.
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We are capable of winning all 3 of those '65.
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We are capable of winning all 3 of those '65.
Win all nine and we finish 5th. Hardwick gets another five years.
Lose all nine and we finish 16th. We are looking for a coach and cull another 10 players.
I, as always, will enjoy the ride.
:cheers
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:lol
I don't know what I'm laughing at actually - the fact that it's funny or it's true - both of which are correct!
:thumbsup
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The run home
By Ben Guthrie
afl.com.au
Mon 02 Jul, 2012
11. Richmond
24 points (six wins, seven losses) 106.23 per cent
The run home:
Rd 15: Melbourne at the MCG
Rd 16: Gold Coast at Cazaly's Stadium (Cairns)
Rd 17: North Melbourne at the MCG
Rd 18: Carlton at the MCG
Rd 19: Brisbane Lions at the Gabba
Rd 20: Western Bulldogs at the MCG
Rd 21: Fremantle at Patersons Stadium
Rd 22: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 23: Port Adelaide at the MCG
The Tigers' best is very good, but they need to find a way to grind out victories. Fortunately, their run home offers ample opportunity. Essendon is the only top-six side the Tigers confront between now and September. Carlton and Fremantle (away) are their next toughest assignments, while the Suns, Lions, Power and Demons present chances for both wins and potentially vital percentage boosts.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/140169/default.aspx
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Ben Guthrie trolling Norf :lol
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We are capable of winning all 3 of those '65.
Win all nine and we finish 5th. Hardwick gets another five years.
Lose all nine and we finish 16th. We are looking for a coach and cull another 10 players.
I, as always, will enjoy the ride.
:cheers
in all honesty with either outcome we are looking to cull 8 or 10 anyway. lose all 9 and what 13th 14th beckons id say.
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Freo have done nothing since beating us. North have suprised and now Brisbane are starting to play well.
This season is turning out to be a beauty especially the fact that carlscum continue to fail. :birthday
i'm not expecting to make it but I do expect to win those games we "should" win. This will be a tick in the improvement column for this season and that includes a big PAYBACK, nail in the coffin win against those cheating scum.
Finals is still a dream for us unfortunately.
Let's beat that discusting scum cheating rabble round 18 and we can all party till next year. :gotigers
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melb, GC, WB and Port are certain wins(4), the remaining 5 are 50/50 yes even the lions at the Gabba. we'll probably win 1-2 of those
We'll end up with 12 wins, miss out on the 8 by percentage or a game
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melb, GC, WB and Port are certain wins(4), the remaining 5 are 50/50 yes even the lions at the Gabba. we'll probably win 1-2 of those
We'll end up with 12 wins, miss out on the 8 by percentage or a game
Would hate to need to beat Port in the last game to make the finals.
They have ruined our party before although playing at the G has just increased our chances in that game. I think you may be right TM we might get to 12 but we will just miss. :-\
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13 wins gets us in definitely
13 wins however is unlikely as it means we need 7 wins from 9 games
Get through the next 2 weeks with wins and round 17 against N0rt becomes the classic 8 point game
12 wins will get someone into 8th spot but its % that will decide it and with a couple of teams having/had a free whack %wise thanks to the draw I don't think it will be us
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13 wins gets us in definitely
13 wins however is unlikely as it means we need 7 wins from 9 games
Get through the next 2 weeks with wins and round 17 against N0rt becomes the classic 8 point game
12 wins will get someone into 8th spot but its % that will decide it and with a couple of teams having/had a free whack %wise thanks to the draw I don't think it will be us
No chance!
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13 wins gets us in definitely
13 wins however is unlikely as it means we need 7 wins from 9 games
Get through the next 2 weeks with wins and round 17 against N0rt becomes the classic 8 point game
12 wins will get someone into 8th spot but its % that will decide it and with a couple of teams having/had a free whack %wise thanks to the draw I don't think it will be us
No chance!
;D ;D
I've said all season we needed absolutely everything to go our way to play finals are you now agreeing with me? ;D :cheers
Obviously our depth has been exposed big time in the last few weeks
Seriously, though Freo game is the one we shot where we shot ourselves in the foot.... that and the Eagles = Costly costly costly
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Vickery out for the season, King and Grimes out for at least 4 weeks, Jackson suspended for 2 weeks, Foley suffering a mystery injury.....finals is starting to seem less and less likely.
Collingwood and co have had their depth tested and found some gems as a result. Do we have any hidden gems left?
Melbourne and then Gold Coast couldn't have come at a better time.....or did I just jinx us now :-X :gotigers
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lets hope it goes down to the wire :thumbsup
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Collingwood and co have had their depth tested and found some gems as a result. Do we have any hidden gems left?
We're going to get a good look at what is actually on the list the back half of the year.
No point sugar coating it at this stage if it still needs work. Which of course it does.
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youth time.
Our second tall options are Gus and Browne.
Season over.
Numbers don't work.
2013 will b good.
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Anyone ever missed with 12 wins?
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Anyone ever missed with 12 wins?
Yep us! 94 and 98
Will check other years too
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How much wins did the bums get in with last year?
Frickin lucky club that lot.
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Well at least every other club sitting on 6-7 need to win 7 out of the last 9
Guess that means Carlton are stuffed :cheers
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How much wins did the bums get in with last year?
Frickin lucky club that lot.
They got in with 10 under Knighta. We missed out from 11 wins and a draw the year before under Wallet.
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6 from 8 now!
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still heaps to play out
some have peaked too early (dons)
some have struggled all year (cats)
browpaperbaggers injuries and form
tiges pretty consistent all year really
no harsh maulings.
goyoutigers.
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How much wins did the bums get in with last year?
Frickin lucky club that lot.
They got in with 10 under Knighta. We missed out from 11 wins and a draw the year before under Wallet.
Just our luck!
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The Run Home
By Ben Guthrie
afl.com.au
July 9, 2012
10. Richmond
28 points (seven wins, seven losses) 107.70 per cent
The run home:
Rd 16: Gold Coast at Cazaly's Stadium (Cairns)
Rd 17: North Melbourne at the MCG
Rd 18: Carlton at the MCG
Rd 19: Brisbane Lions at the Gabba
Rd 20: Western Bulldogs at the MCG
Rd 21: Fremantle at Paterson Stadium
Rd 22: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 23: Port Adelaide at the MCG
Following a tumultuous week off the field, the Tigers posted an uninspiring win against Melbourne at the weekend. They will expect a handsome win against the Suns this week, before regaining Dustin Martin for huge encounters with North Melbourne and then Carlton that could decide the race for eighth spot. Percentage boosts in games against the Lions, the Dogs and the Power will be vital. Needless to say if they drop those games, their finals hopes will be on thin ice.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/140847/default.aspx
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We need at least 6 more wins and good percentage to make it.
Gold Coast - win, 30 points plus
North - win, any margin
Carlton - loss, slim margin
Brisbane - win, slim margin
Bulldogs - win, 30 points plus
Freo - loss, slim margin
Ess - win, slim margin
Port - win, 30 points plus
This, and we are in the eight. If we drop any of our 'wins' then we must beat Carlton and/or Freo, which I think will be beyond us the way we are playing ATM. The games against North, Carlton and Essendon will determine if we make it or not.
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We need at least 6 more wins and good percentage to make it.
Gold Coast - win, 30 points plus
North - win, any margin
Carlton - loss, slim margin
Brisbane - win, slim margin
Bulldogs - win, 30 points plus
Freo - loss, slim margin
Ess - win, slim margin
Port - win, 30 points plus
This, and we are in the eight. If we drop any of our 'wins' then we must beat Carlton and/or Freo, which I think will be beyond us the way we are playing ATM. The games against North, Carlton and Essendon will determine if we make it or not.
If we can't beat Carlton and Freo then frankly we don't deserve to play finals. We need to lift for these games. We need to show some character. Frankly I'd be more concerned about losing to these two than the Gold Coast because a loss to Gold Coast would just be a debacle. You can fix a debacle pretty quickly. However there is no short term fix for a teams inability to lift for important games against clubs that we need to beat if we are to go beyond the first week of finals.
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Results
12 GWS (A) Won 6-6
13 Bye
14 Adelaide (A) Loss 6-7
15 Melbourne (A) Won 7-7
16 Gold Coast (H) 7-8
My Predictions
17 North Melbourne (H) MCG L 7-9
18 Carlton (A) MCG L 7-10
19 Brisbane (A) Gabba L 7-11
20 Western Bulldogs (H) MCG W 8-11
21 Fremantle (A) Patersons Stadium L 8-12
22 Essendon (H) MCG L 8-13
23 Port Adelaide (H) MCG W 9-13
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Results
12 GWS (A) Won 6-6
13 Bye
14 Adelaide (A) Loss 6-7
15 Melbourne (A) Won 7-7
My Predictions
16 Gold Coast (H) Cazalys Stadium W 8-7
17 North Melbourne (H) MCG L 8-8
18 Carlton (A) MCG L 8-9
19 Brisbane (A) Gabba W 9-9
20 Western Bulldogs (H) MCG W 10-9
21 Fremantle (A) Patersons Stadium L 10-10
22 Essendon (H) MCG L 10-11
23 Port Adelaide (H) MCG W 11-11
I think that's a fair estimate of what may happen, although I would like to be pleasantly surprised
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If we beat GC we will beat the Dogs and maybe Port, that's about it IMO.
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If we beat GC we will beat the Dogs and maybe Port, that's about it IMO.
The Sky is falling :lol
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If we beat GC we will beat the Dogs and maybe Port, that's about it IMO.
The Sky is falling :lol
So what now I can't have an opinion, that's my thoughts, everyone has had their say that's mine. Stop being a clown TFT, thought we had moved on.
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If we beat GC we will beat the Dogs and maybe Port, that's about it IMO.
The Sky is falling :lol
So what now I can't have an opinion, that's my thoughts, everyone has had their say that's mine. Stop being a clown TFT, thought we had moved on.
Just fishing buddy ;D
I believe we will loose this weekend but beat the Dogs, Port, Norh and one of Carlton and the Bombers. But hats just my thoughts also.....
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If we beat GC we will beat the Dogs and maybe Port, that's about it IMO.
The Sky is falling :lol
So what now I can't have an opinion, that's my thoughts, everyone has had their say that's mine. Stop being a clown TFT, thought we had moved on.
Just fishing buddy ;D
I believe we will loose this weekend but beat the Dogs, Port, Norh and one of Carlton and the Bombers. But hats just my thoughts also.....
North are on fire, Carlton will get stronger after the win against the Pies, I just cant see it, but hey you never know.
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If we beat GC we will beat the Dogs and maybe Port, that's about it IMO.
The Sky is falling :lol
So what now I can't have an opinion, that's my thoughts, everyone has had their say that's mine. Stop being a clown TFT, thought we had moved on.
Just fishing buddy ;D
I believe we will loose this weekend but beat the Dogs, Port, Norh and one of Carlton and the Bombers. But hats just my thoughts also.....
North are on fire, Carlton will get stronger after the win against the Pies, I just cant see it, but hey you never know.
North are far from on fire :lol :lol go back through and look who hey have beaten and who they have been beaten by ;)
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north on fire?
what about mentally weak?
we give up a 1/4 time lead of 30 points and we are mentally week, north give up a 1/2 time lead of 35 points and they are on fire?
please explain?
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If we beat GC we will beat the Dogs and maybe Port, that's about it IMO.
The Sky is falling :lol
So what now I can't have an opinion, that's my thoughts, everyone has had their say that's mine. Stop being a clown TFT, thought we had moved on.
Just fishing buddy ;D
I believe we will loose this weekend but beat the Dogs, Port, Norh and one of Carlton and the Bombers. But hats just my thoughts also.....
North are on fire, Carlton will get stronger after the win against the Pies, I just cant see it, but hey you never know.
North are far from on fire :lol :lol go back through and look who hey have beaten and who they have been beaten by ;)
Should of beaten WC, bar umpiring and flogged the Crows......I have watched their games and their run and carry is great...we will see!
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If we beat GC we will beat the Dogs and maybe Port, that's about it IMO.
The Sky is falling :lol
So what now I can't have an opinion, that's my thoughts, everyone has had their say that's mine. Stop being a clown TFT, thought we had moved on.
Just fishing buddy ;D
I believe we will loose this weekend but beat the Dogs, Port, Norh and one of Carlton and the Bombers. But hats just my thoughts also.....
North are on fire, Carlton will get stronger after the win against the Pies, I just cant see it, but hey you never know.
North are far from on fire :lol :lol go back through and look who hey have beaten and who they have been beaten by ;)
Should of beaten WC, bar umpiring and flogged the Crows......I have watched their games and their run and carry is great...we will see!
Yep ad they have done that all year :lol :lol 100 odd point flogging by Hawthorn a few weeks back, soundly beaten by the bulldogs and port :lol yep a team on fire.....we will see ;)
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I hope Carlton beat them up this weekend to douse any hope they have the week after of playing finals.
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Yeah Dwaino and this would give the blues more of a reason to beat us
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Hope nought smash them
The season for me is not a total waste as long as we can knock Carlton out of the finals race and Bombers from the top 4 spot
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On the run home
afl.com.au
Monday, July 16 2012
11. Richmond
28 points (seven wins, eight losses) 107.02 per cent
The run home:
Rd 17: North Melbourne at the MCG
Rd 18: Carlton at the MCG
Rd 19: Brisbane Lions at the Gabba
Rd 20: Western Bulldogs at the MCG
Rd 21: Fremantle at Paterson Stadium
Rd 22: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 23: Port Adelaide at the MCG
Saturday night's upset in Cairns was a great story for everyone but Tiger fans. Karmichael Hunt's after-the-siren winner leaves Richmond reeling. They will regain Dustin Martin, following his off-field indiscretion, for must-win games against the Roos and Carlton, both rivals for eighth spot. Needless to say if the Tigers drop those games their finals hopes will be in tatters.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141551/default.aspx
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On the run home
afl.com.au
Monday, July 16 2012
11. Richmond
28 points (seven wins, eight losses) 107.02 per cent
The run home:
Rd 17: North Melbourne at the MCG
Rd 18: Carlton at the MCG
Rd 19: Brisbane Lions at the Gabba
Rd 20: Western Bulldogs at the MCG
Rd 21: Fremantle at Paterson Stadium
Rd 22: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 23: Port Adelaide at the MCG
Saturday night's upset in Cairns was a great story for everyone but Tiger fans. Karmichael Hunt's after-the-siren winner leaves Richmond reeling. They will regain Dustin Martin, following his off-field indiscretion, for must-win games against the Roos and Carlton, both rivals for eighth spot. Needless to say if the Tigers drop those games their finals hopes will be in tatters.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141551/default.aspx
No chance. We'll lose at least 4 of those.
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On the run home
afl.com.au
Monday, July 16 2012
11. Richmond
28 points (seven wins, eight losses) 107.02 per cent
The run home:
Rd 17: North Melbourne at the MCG
Rd 18: Carlton at the MCG
Rd 19: Brisbane Lions at the Gabba
Rd 20: Western Bulldogs at the MCG
Rd 21: Fremantle at Paterson Stadium
Rd 22: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 23: Port Adelaide at the MCG
Saturday night's upset in Cairns was a great story for everyone but Tiger fans. Karmichael Hunt's after-the-siren winner leaves Richmond reeling. They will regain Dustin Martin, following his off-field indiscretion, for must-win games against the Roos and Carlton, both rivals for eighth spot. Needless to say if the Tigers drop those games their finals hopes will be in tatters.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141551/default.aspx
No chance. We'll lose at least 4 of those.
We lose what we should win and win what we should lose. We'll win the next two weeks now, because that is how Richmond roll . . .
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Doubt it !
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Where will your team finish on the AFL ladder?
Matt Windley
From: Herald Sun
July 17, 2012 10:00PM
MATT Windley pulls apart every club's run home and predicts where your team will finish on the ladder.
11. RICHMOND
28pts 107.02%
R17: North Melbourne, MCG
R18: Carlton, MCG
R19: Brisbane Lions, Gabba
R20: Western Bulldogs, MCG
R21: Fremantle, Paterson Stadium
R22: Essendon, MCG
R23: Port Adelaide, MCG
Matt says: Richmond may just be cooked after its last-minute capitulation against Gold Coast in Cairns at the weekend - lose to North Melbourne on Sunday and the Tigers are officially done and dusted. Should Damien Hardwick's men conjure a victory on the weekend then next week's clash with Carlton is another mini-final against another team jostling for eighth spot. Win both of those then the Tiger Army may just be up and about again, leaving Richmond with the task of having to beat one of Fremantle (away) and Essendon to have a shot at a long-awaited finals berth. September is still a possibility, but there are a lot of ifs, buts and maybes.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/st-kilda-could-be-pipped-at-post-for-a-spot-in-top-eight/story-e6frf9jf-1226428351979
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I wish I had more faith in beating North but I just can't see us doing it the way they run, spread and play a man-on-man defense. With Ziebell and Adams out and the small possibility that Petrie is injured, it will help but I keep going back to the absence of Foley, Vickery and Grimes. Makes a huge difference to our team.
We can win this but we will need the Mullet to play and either Derickx or McGuane/Miller to have a big game. I hope Griffiths is fine :-\
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Geelong winning tonight and gaining a chunk of percentage was bad news for the sides just outside the Eight. Realistically it means all these sides are now fighting for just the last spot in the finals. It would be tough enough if we were in the form we were in back in the first half of the season and with close to our best 22 on the park but right now we look no chance and look to have run our race. Even if were to upset North on Sunday it could be all in vain anyway. We would need to win the next 4 just to stay in the race. Right now I can only see us beating the Dogs and Port on the run home.
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we've been cooked since Saints game
just managed to squeeze a couple
of wins.
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Geelong winning tonight and gaining a chunk of percentage was bad news for the sides just outside the Eight. Realistically it means all these sides are now fighting for just the last spot in the finals. It would be tough enough if we were in the form we were in back in the first half of the season and with close to our best 22 on the park but right now we look no chance and look to have run our race. Even if were to upset North on Sunday it could be all in vain anyway. We would need to win the next 4 just to stay in the race. Right now I can only see us beating the Dogs and Port on the run home.
Yep, there goes our season (what we were clinging to anyway)
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In vain or not, must win against north and break the hoodoo on the blues
Must break the hoodoo on the doggies too
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we've been cooked since Saints game
just managed to squeeze a couple
of wins.
Yep too many best 22 outs and too many forced changes each and every week has unsettled the side and exposed our total lack of depth. We needed everything to go our way to have any chance of finals and we didn't get it. Without some miraculous turnaround in form I can't see us sticking with the sides currently around us on the ladder. Not totally a bad thing mind you as say another top 8 pick will make us a better side next year and beyond when we are seriously contending for the finals and top 4.
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Thats our fault for not taking the Freo game and one of the close losses at the start of the season or the Adelaide game. We blew our chances, and unlike n0rf, we don't get a second chance.
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Results
12 GWS (A) Won 6-6
13 Bye
14 Adelaide (A) Loss 6-7
15 Melbourne (A) Won 7-7
16 Gold Coast (H) Loss 7-8
My Predictions
17 North Melbourne (H) MCG L 7-9
18 Carlton (A) MCG L 7-10
19 Brisbane (A) Gabba L 7-11
20 Western Bulldogs (H) MCG W 8-11
21 Fremantle (A) Patersons Stadium L 8-12
22 Essendon (H) MCG L 8-13
23 Port Adelaide (H) MCG W 9-13
BUMP
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Results
12 GWS (A) Won 6-6
13 Bye
14 Adelaide (A) Loss 6-7
15 Melbourne (A) Won 7-7
16 Gold Coast (H) Loss 7-8
My Predictions
17 North Melbourne (H) MCG L 7-9
18 Carlton (A) MCG L 7-10
19 Brisbane (A) Gabba L 7-11
20 Western Bulldogs (H) MCG W 8-11
21 Fremantle (A) Patersons Stadium L 8-12
22 Essendon (H) MCG L 8-13
23 Port Adelaide (H) MCG W 9-13
BUMP
On the money !
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torch's predictions are not far from the mark on our current form. Oh well at least we'll get a good first round pick if it goes that way.
Thats our fault for not taking the Freo game and one of the close losses at the start of the season or the Adelaide game. We blew our chances, and unlike n0rf, we don't get a second chance.
Yep. We've definitely improved this year (our best 22 is a decent side now) but we're still not good enough to join the big boys yet over 22 rounds. Every side has a tipping point and it doesn't take too many injuries to reach ours. The rot seemed to set in once Foley and Grimes went down :-\.
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torch's predictions are not far from the mark on our current form. Oh well at least we'll get a good first round pick if it goes that way.
Thats our fault for not taking the Freo game and one of the close losses at the start of the season or the Adelaide game. We blew our chances, and unlike n0rf, we don't get a second chance.
Yep. We've definitely improved this year (our best 22 is a decent side now) but we're still not good enough to join the big boys yet over 22 rounds. Every side has a tipping point and it doesn't take too many injuries to reach ours. The rot seemed to set in once Foley and Grimes went down :-\.
We played some of our best footy without Grimes see round 9-10 this year.
As much as Grimes straightens us up defensively as a quality third tall defender its Foley's run and carry in and under spread and pace that we have really missed in the last few weeks.
Come draft time we need to find a few mids preferebally one with Axel attributes. We've missed his presence heaps. Somehow I don't think we would have dropped the Freo Adel and GC games with Foley in the side. That's how close we could have been to finals if the injury plague had hit a lesser type than a piston in our engine.
Right now we would be 10-5 if that was the case. Such is the closeness of the comp and the footy we have played for the majority of the year. :-\
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Right on Tucker and MT. While recently it has been the same old, for most of the first half we played some ripper footy and showed we are on the right track.
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The run home
By Ben Guthrie
Mon 23 Jul, 2012
12. Richmond
28 points (seven wins, nine losses) 106.24 per cent
The run home:
Rd 18: Carlton at the MCG
Rd 19: Brisbane Lions at the Gabba
Rd 20: Western Bulldogs at the MCG
Rd 21: Fremantle at Paterson Stadium
Rd 22: Essendon at the MCG
Rd 23: Port Adelaide at the MCG
Tiger fans would have hoped for two wins in the past eight days, but their finals dreams have faded following a remarkable loss to the Suns and Sunday's thrilling defeat by North Melbourne. Saturday night's blockbuster against Carlton is now a must-win for both clubs. Essendon and Fremantle (in Perth) are Richmond's next two biggest hurdles.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/142290/default.aspx
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Results
12 GWS (A) Won 6-6
13 Bye
14 Adelaide (A) Loss 6-7
15 Melbourne (A) Won 7-7
16 Gold Coast (H) Loss 7-8
17 North Melbourne (H) Loss 7-9
My Predictions
18 Carlton (A) MCG L 7-10
19 Brisbane (A) Gabba L 7-11
20 Western Bulldogs (H) MCG W 8-11
21 Fremantle (A) Patersons Stadium L 8-12
22 Essendon (H) MCG L 8-13
23 Port Adelaide (H) MCG W 9-13
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torch's predictions are not far from the mark on our current form. Oh well at least we'll get a good first round pick if it goes that way.
Thats our fault for not taking the Freo game and one of the close losses at the start of the season or the Adelaide game. We blew our chances, and unlike n0rf, we don't get a second chance.
Yep. We've definitely improved this year (our best 22 is a decent side now) but we're still not good enough to join the big boys yet over 22 rounds. Every side has a tipping point and it doesn't take too many injuries to reach ours. The rot seemed to set in once Foley and Grimes went down :-\.
I am on the TANK now! be fantastic if we end up with Pick 6 or 7!!!
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We can still make it!
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We can still make it!
Coburg has more chance of making top 4
Season over go for the tank
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We can still make it!
Coburg has more chance of making top 4
Season over go for the tank
F tanking! Win at any cost!
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Where will your team finish on the AFL ladder?
Matt Windley
From: Herald Sun
July 24, 2012 10:00PM
MATT Windley pulls apart every club's run home and predicts where your team will finish on the ladder.
12. RICHMOND
28pts 106.24%
R18: Carlton, MCG
R19: Brisbane Lions, Gabba
R20: Western Bulldogs, MCG
R21: Fremantle, Paterson Stadium
R22: Essendon, MCG
R23: Port Adelaide, MCG
Matt says: Gone. Gallant, but gone. Five losses by less than 12 points hurts - and the manner of the last two hurts more. Richmond has been in the hunt in EVERY SINGLE GAME it has played this year, so it will be of some comfort to its rivals that it is out of the finals hunt. Anyone disagree that finals hopes are gone? OK, well, say the Tigers win every game for the rest of the season that will put them on 13 wins and, by our reckoning, level with eighth-placed Essendon - at best - and that's assuming the Bombers stumble. Tigers fans can dare to dream for the next few weeks if they do as expected and knock off Carlton, Brisbane Lions and Western Bulldogs, but the death knell should officially sound at Patersons Stadium against Fremantle in Round 21. Then they'll be left to rue Karmichael Hunt and the bouncing ball from Shaun Grigg on the weekend that refused to go through the big sticks.
MATT WINDLEY'S PREDICTED LADDER
1. Adelaide 18-4
2. Sydney 17-5
3. Collingwood 17-5
4. Hawthorn 16-6
5. West Coast 16-6
6. Geelong 15-7
8. North Melbourne 14-8
6. Essendon 13-9
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9. St Kilda 12-10
10. Fremantle 12-10
11. Richmond 11-11
11. Carlton 10-12
13. Brisbane Lions 9-13
14. Port Adelaide 6-16
15. Western Bulldogs 5-17
16. Melbourne 4-18
17. Gold Coast 2-20
18. Greater Western Sydney 1-21
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/where-will-your-team-finish-on-the-afl-ladder/story-e6frf9jf-1226433762342
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So disappointing but, excepting a minor miracle, time to look to the trade table and draft day again :'(
If we can knock off the Blues then I will be slightly contented despite the disappointment of coming so close.
North doesn't deserve their place in the finals. They were gifted a soft draw based on playing low crowd drawers and to hide the ineptitude of the new teams at small stadiums and during low ratings time slots. They will be off to Tasmania soon once the AFL can kick the Hawks out anyway.
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Funny how all the commentators have dropped off Essendon ;D
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Geelong getting back to its best and North having a cushy draw which also boosts their % will make it hard for everyone outside the Eight to get in. The Bombers are in free fall and are now the only ones looking like falling out but we are 4 games behind them. The past two weeks and the Freo loss really have hurt us big time even if we were to win tonight.
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It will never happen as once you need to rely on other teams losing you're gone and it's not in our long term interests for us to chase finals yet finish ninth :-X but when Dimma wouldn't rule out finals in his press conference he must have been thinking about this crazy scenario:
Richmond wins the remaining 4 games - Dogs, Freo, Ess & Port.
Freo lose to Adelaide and North away and we beat them in an upset at Subi.
Essendon lose to North, Coll and us.
Saints lose to Geel and Carl
Carlton lose to Ess
We just need all that happen and we'll be in the finals by % on 12 wins ;D
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It will never happen as once you need to rely on other teams losing you're gone and it's not in our long term interests for us to chase finals yet finish ninth :-X but when Dimma wouldn't rule out finals in his press conference he must have been thinking about this crazy scenario:
Richmond wins the remaining 4 games - Dogs, Freo, Ess & Port.
Freo lose to Adelaide and North away and we beat them in an upset at Subi.
Essendon lose to North, Coll and us.
Saints lose to Geel and Carl
Carlton lose to Ess
We just need all that happen and we'll be in the finals by % on 12 wins ;D
It will all happen except for Carltank beating Saints. lol
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Mathematically possible but highly improbable
The Dimwit should be preparing for the big spring clean rather than dreaming the impossible
He has a lot to do between now and rd1 next year
All the rookies must go with at least 8 senior players
He must rookie Willie wheeler Asa foley sub
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Must rookie Wheeler?
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