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Title: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 16, 2012, 03:53:43 PM
I have never seen anything like this before.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: tony_montana on June 16, 2012, 04:02:01 PM
Yep, worst I've seen I reckon
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Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 16, 2012, 04:16:05 PM
Poor guy has been raped today.

Those two in the second the one before the bounce and the deliberate out of bounds have been horrific, considering before the deliberate Power kicked straight out from 30 metres inside the line and nothing was given. :help
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 16, 2012, 05:08:04 PM
Far be it for me to be defending umpires (and I'm not), but he was told to stop and he didn't......stupid ....stupid....footballer.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Ekto on June 16, 2012, 05:12:27 PM
Far be it for me to be defending umpires (and I'm not), but he was told to stop and he didn't......stupid ....stupid....footballer.
What was he told to stop doing?

You are allowed to make contact with an oppostion player as long as it is within the rules.

What rule did Batch transgress?

He did the same again straight after the goal and the maggot did nothing.

Next thing we will see is the umpire telling Tiger players to stop sledging and then paying a free at a crucial moment of a close game.

These maggots are so poor, you wouldn't even put them on a hook when you go fishing.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 16, 2012, 05:14:38 PM
Far be it for me to be defending umpires (and I'm not), but he was told to stop and he didn't......stupid ....stupid....footballer.
What was he told to stop doing?

You are allowed to make contact with an oppostion player as long as it is within the rules.

What rule did Batch transgress?

He did the same again straight after the goal and the maggot did nothing.

Next thing we will see is the umpire telling Tiger players to stop sledging and then paying a free at a crucial moment of a close game.

These maggots are so poor, you wouldn't even put them on a hook when you go fishing.
I know ....I know..... but the point remains that they are the officials on the spot and he should not give them the opportunity to screw us.....yet again!
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: tony_montana on June 16, 2012, 05:20:45 PM
Far be it for me to be defending umpires (and I'm not), but he was told to stop and he didn't......stupid ....stupid....footballer.

sorry mate but he was doing nothing wrong, no open hand, no closed fist, he was using the forearm and it was hardly with what youd call force. Was just needling the fwd, defenders have been doing it for 120years. Biggest load of BS
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 16, 2012, 05:33:04 PM
Far be it for me to be defending umpires (and I'm not), but he was told to stop and he didn't......stupid ....stupid....footballer.

sorry mate but he was doing nothing wrong, no open hand, no closed fist, he was using the forearm and it was hardly with what youd call force. Was just needling the fwd, defenders have been doing it for 120years. Biggest load of BS

Agree Tony. He just had a bad quarter in the second no thanks to some awful decisions and his day did not get any better with that poor kick in third. He'll learn and we'll move on.
That one before the bounce was one of the worst decisions I've seen in my time watching footy.
That as Tony has said has been hapenning since the game began.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Chuck17 on June 16, 2012, 07:51:58 PM
What i find boggling is that a decision like this has never been made before that I have seen and Batch's behaviour is done constantly and consistently by all backman.

That maggot scum umpire believes the game is all about him issuing a decree and not being obeyed.  Should be stood down but wont be coz the giesch is a goose. Strip the effn numbers and strip their colours....disgraces.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Mr Magic on June 16, 2012, 07:56:27 PM
Batch needs a kick in the backside.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 16, 2012, 07:59:12 PM
Batch needs a kick in the backside.
I think his frustration today is indicative of someone who knows his form is slipping.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: bojangles17 on June 16, 2012, 07:59:56 PM
I was a bs free kick for the hoppo bumpo stuff, ffs, there was no high contact that would warrant a free....first time ive ever seen it paid, then again there's been a few of those stupid interpretations ive never seen elsewhere like being to close to player with free kick....anyone ever seen that paid elsewhere :o
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Chuck17 on June 16, 2012, 08:01:53 PM
I abused that number 9 scum effwit ump all day after that.  total goose.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 16, 2012, 08:02:24 PM
I was a bs free kick for the hoppo bumpo stuff, ffs, there was no high contact that would warrant a free....first time ive ever seen it paid, then again there's been a few of those stupid interpretations ive never seen elsewhere like being to close to player with free kick....anyone ever seen that paid elsewhere :o
I seem to recall a similar scenario last year or the year before, but don't ask me who.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: tigs2011 on June 17, 2012, 01:49:50 AM
I abused that number 9 scum effwit ump all day after that.  total goose.

Stevic. Given up caring what that moron pays. Blatant cheat. Knew we were in for a rough day when I opened the paper Friday morning.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: one-eyed on June 17, 2012, 04:18:53 AM
They show the 'contact' and 'free' in the foxsports highlights clip [click on video in link below and goto 0.50 min]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/daniel-connors-comes-in-from-sin-bin/story-e6frf9mx-1226397613397

If that's a free then  :help
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Owl on June 17, 2012, 06:41:38 AM
My thought was the Giants player was backing into him and giving him a bit of elbow and he was giving him a bit right back telling him to get off.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: RollsRoyce on June 17, 2012, 08:33:43 AM
I've been watching the game for over 40 years, and I have to say that was the softest, stupidest, most ridiculous free kick I have EVER seen. When they put the replay up, I was waiting for some footage of Batch either thumping him, putting him in a headlock, or pushing him to the ground. COME ON  UMPIRE! That pushy-shove-y stuff happens between players a hundred times a game, ignore it FFS. You wonder why I HATE them so much :banghead
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on June 17, 2012, 08:46:37 AM
 :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead

Mind you I would have to do that for about two hours to have the same IQ as that umpire.

The game is not about you guys, get out of it.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: tigtuff12 on June 17, 2012, 09:23:26 AM
if they pay that all day, every week the game comes to a grinding standstill...one of the worst decisions in the history of the game (and that includes us hiring Terry Wallets & taking Tambling before Franklin.......)
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Smokey on June 17, 2012, 10:07:55 AM
My thought was the Giants player was backing into him and giving him a bit of elbow and he was giving him a bit right back telling him to get off.

That's how I saw it too Owl.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 17, 2012, 10:24:12 AM
I've been watching the game for over 40 years, and I have to say that was the softest, stupidest, most ridiculous free kick I have EVER seen. When they put the replay up, I was waiting for some footage of Batch either thumping him, putting him in a headlock, or pushing him to the ground. COME ON  UMPIRE! That pushy-shove-y stuff happens between players a hundred times a game, ignore it FFS. You wonder why I HATE them so much :banghead
With you on this one Roycey! Imagine having a friendly argument with a Rugby league supporter about which game is tougher and then that happens?

We have the best game in the world yet it seems we are hell bent on ruining it.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: WA Tiger on June 17, 2012, 10:31:11 AM
Bla stuffing bla.....so what, yes he was hard done by, how did he respond.....like a stuffing kid.....and his overall game was poo....get over it.....worst thread to date FFS....
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: cub on June 17, 2012, 08:08:49 PM
Pnq frig off to fq, what a wanker u r.
Just got home and watched the replay, suggest you go watch the
netball soft bish, umpires over do and are wrecking the game! All after revenge for being the inept c  ts they are!!!!!
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 17, 2012, 08:35:04 PM
if they pay that all day, every week the game comes to a grinding standstill...one of the worst decisions in the history of the game (and that includes us hiring Terry Wallets & taking Tambling before Franklin.......)

Now come on, don't exaggerate that much ;D :lol ;D :lol
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 17, 2012, 08:40:50 PM
The umpires can call a free under rule 15.4.5(e) of the rule book:
Prohibited contact and payment of a free kick.(e) pushes, bumps, holds or blocks an opposition Player when the football is further than 5 metres away from the opposition Player or is out of play;

So TECHNICALLY speaking the umpire was correct.

So why don't they pay all these niggles all of the time?

INCONSISTENCY is what is killing the game!
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: dwaino on June 17, 2012, 08:51:37 PM
The umpires can call a free under rule 15.4.5(e) of the rule book:
Prohibited contact and payment of a free kick.(e) pushes, bumps, holds or blocks an opposition Player when the football is further than 5 metres away from the opposition Player or is out of play;

So TECHNICALLY speaking the umpire was correct.

So why don't they pay all these niggles all of the time?

INCONSISTENCY is what is killing the game!

What's ridiculous though is that straight after it, Batch was doing the same thing with his shoulder in front of the same maggot to prove a point.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: one-eyed on June 17, 2012, 09:59:14 PM
You can twitter @AFL to query any umpiring decisions from the weekend. Put the #YourCall hashtag at the end of your tweet.

@AFL
"What umpiring decisions should we take a look at in the Round 12 episode of #YourCall"


Geisch will answer the ones he only wants to answer though  ::).
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: tigs2011 on June 18, 2012, 12:24:47 AM
You can twitter @AFL to query any umpiring decisions from the weekend. Put the #YourCall hashtag at the end of your tweet.

@AFL
"What umpiring decisions should we take a look at in the Round 12 episode of #YourCall"


Geisch will answer the ones he only wants to answer though  ::).

Yep. They will all be correct too.  :lol
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: eliminator on June 18, 2012, 06:51:04 AM
No free kick. Disgraceful decision.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 18, 2012, 11:15:55 AM
Can someone put the footage of youtube?
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: one-eyed on June 18, 2012, 05:29:46 PM
Even Robbo can't make sense of the free kick ...

Comment From no idea
can you explain the free kick against batchelor 2 days on and I am still confused??

Robbo   
No I can't. man's game..

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/expert-opinion/no-free-to-air-games-on-weekend-an-insult-to-fans/story-fn5937w8-1226398062257
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on June 18, 2012, 07:09:07 PM
Can someone put the footage of youtube?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ABpdwcAOs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

From about 1.13
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: one-eyed on June 19, 2012, 03:44:32 AM
Can someone put the footage of youtube?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ABpdwcAOs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

From about 1.13
Notice Cameron swinging his elbow back into Batch's chest right in front of the ump but that was allowed; yet Batch tapping Cameron's upper arm was penalised :huh  ::). 
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Owl on June 19, 2012, 07:42:40 AM
that is what blew my mind, blind elbow to the solar plexus designed to wind your opponent as opposed to Batch repeatedly fending him off from making body contact....pleeease...
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: tony_montana on June 19, 2012, 07:46:24 AM
I noticed on afl 360, robbo, wade and bomber all thought it was ridiculous, huddo said it was fair enough bc the umpire was warning him and that players shouldn't have to put up with niggling just standing there away from the ball,  :rollin when the 3 of them burst out laughing at least he had the common decency to look embarrassed - clown!  :lol
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Mr Magic on June 19, 2012, 08:34:17 AM
Batch needs a kick in the backside.
I think his frustration today is indicative of someone who knows his form is slipping.

Yep. Been off no doubt.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: one-eyed on June 20, 2012, 01:57:10 PM
Gieschen's response to the Batchelor free on the It's Your Call segment on the AFL website...

"With Batchelor, it's a definite free kick." 

"He did it more than once (4 times) and the umpire would've have told him to stop it."

"We don't want players throwing elbows and forearms."  ::)

"Some may say there's not much force or it's soft but we see this copied at the lower levels and we want to stamp it out."

VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/contentid/460822/invoke/Default.aspx

 ::)
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Post by: Eat_em_Alive on June 20, 2012, 02:04:59 PM
Gieschen's response to the Batchelor free on the It's Your Call segment on the AFL website...

"With Batchelor, it's a definite free kick." 

"He did it more than once (4 times) and the umpire would've have told him to stop it."

"We don't want players throwing elbows and forearms."  ::)

"Some may say there's not much force or it's soft but we see this copied at the lower levels and we want to stamp it out."

VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/contentid/460822/invoke/Default.aspx

 ::)

jees I could scroll over games from the last round and find 20-30 examples, yet it was Richmond once again chosen as scapegoat.
And once again Matt Stevic has awarded this free kick against us  ::)
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: rogerd3 on June 20, 2012, 02:07:33 PM
Gieschen couldnt officiate
a CWA bake off..

long live the Fuhrer!!
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 20, 2012, 02:10:53 PM
Robbo is a moron.

Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: tony_montana on June 20, 2012, 02:39:58 PM
Gieschen's response to the Batchelor free on the It's Your Call segment on the AFL website...

"With Batchelor, it's a definite free kick." 

"He did it more than once (4 times) and the umpire would've have told him to stop it."

"We don't want players throwing elbows and forearms."  ::)

"Some may say there's not much force or it's soft but we see this copied at the lower levels and we want to stamp it out."

VIDEO: http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76/contentid/460822/invoke/Default.aspx

 ::)

had enough of this poo, somebody needs to tape and highlight this happening in every game this week and send it to that smoker and ask why the other 75 incidents over the weekend didnt get called a stuff, enough is enough with this ridiculous over officiating
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Mr Magic on June 20, 2012, 04:11:38 PM

"With Batchelor, it's a definite free kick." 

"He did it more than once (4 times) and the umpire would've have told him to stop it."

Would have or did?

If the umpire did indeed tell Batch to cut it out after the first couple of instances then it's fair enough IMO and Batchelor is an idiot for continuing.
However purely going by the vision, Batch seemed clueless to any direction to stop it and was genuinely shocked when pinged.
I think The Giesh is just making poo up to cover his umpires behind for an overreaction but if Batchelor was directed to stop, he has no one to blame but himself.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 20, 2012, 04:18:05 PM

"With Batchelor, it's a definite free kick." 

"He did it more than once (4 times) and the umpire would've have told him to stop it."

Would have or did?

If the umpire did indeed tell Batch to cut it out after the first couple of instances then it's fair enough IMO and Batchelor is an idiot for continuing.
However purely going by the vision, Batch seemed clueless to any direction to stop it and was genuinely shocked when pinged.
I think The Giesh is just making poo up to cover his umpires behind for an overreaction but if Batchelor was directed to stop, he has no one to blame but himself.
Maybe he couldn't hear him above the crowd noise? ;D
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 20, 2012, 04:41:10 PM
1) why is the magg0t talking to batchelor? Stfu and umpire the game

2) if it is indeed breaking the laws of the game why dont they always pay the free.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: dwaino on June 20, 2012, 05:36:44 PM

2) if it is indeed breaking the laws of the game why dont they always pay the free.

Sheen put it well on On the Couch on Monday. He said that if it justifies a free then why wasn't it paid on first contact? It's either a free or nothing. It's either within the laws or it isn't.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: mightytiges on June 21, 2012, 01:36:59 PM

"With Batchelor, it's a definite free kick." 

"He did it more than once (4 times) and the umpire would've have told him to stop it."

Would have or did?

If the umpire did indeed tell Batch to cut it out after the first couple of instances then it's fair enough IMO and Batchelor is an idiot for continuing.
However purely going by the vision, Batch seemed clueless to any direction to stop it and was genuinely shocked when pinged.
I think The Giesh is just making poo up to cover his umpires behind for an overreaction but if Batchelor was directed to stop, he has no one to blame but himself.
The umps are miked up aren't they? I didn't hear anything on the replay said by the ump to Batch. Giesch just making stuff up to defend the indefensible  ::). In any case if "throwing elbows and forearms" is going to be stamped out then why didn't Batch receive a free first for Cameron swinging his elbow back into Batch's midrift  ::). The idiot even contradicted himself again by saying Batch deserved to be penalised because he niggled Cameron more than once just before they went to the clip of Judd's niggle on Priddis when Judd did it just once before copping 50m against. Giesch then says ...."oh yeah he did it just once in this case but the ump wanted to get the game moving". Giesch is just making it up as he goes along  :banghead. He needs to go NOW as he's as useless as umpires coach as he was as Richmond coach  :banghead.

Did anyone else hear Andy D yesterday saying players and coaches don't receive the scrutiny umpires do?  :huh. Geez they live in fairyland at AFL House. Players and coaches are sacked for repeatedly poor performance and how about Josh Hunt getting bagged for pulling out of a contest a couple of weeks back or our Jack getting bagged after the Essendon game. Andy D must have missed that  :wallywink.
Title: Re: The Batchelor free kick thread.
Post by: Owl on June 21, 2012, 02:02:14 PM
Andy D is a deluded, disconnected clown.  Crap like this makes you wonder if the AFL and the actual sport itself are even related to each other anymore except in name, they have placed themselves in such a high tower to peer down on the rest of us it is hilarious to hear the dribble that comes forth.  They need to start reconnecting to the the sport and stop getting FAT at functions  before they destroy their cash cow.
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Post by: the claw on June 21, 2012, 07:33:59 PM
this is one thing i can agree on with all my fellow supporters not just tiger ones.
the standard of umpiring is abysmal and fundamental interpretaions have been changed to the great detriment of the game and confusion of supporters.

those two carlton tweeters were right the fundamental rule of going in and getting the ball first is out the window. the holding the ball rule is a disgrace the in the back rule is so dumb it could only have come from a mentally impaied person like anderson and that is no disrespect to the mentally impaired who have more sense than anderson and demetriou combined. no more bumps no more this no more that they let scrums form rather than quickly blowing the whistle and balling it up asap. theres no consistency from week to week we have an interchange rule that crucifys sides  we have a deliberate oob rule that changes not only weekly but when the opposition supporters howl loud enough during a game. bloody hell one could go on and on.

im getting on  and so many of my generation have just turned their back on the game most say na its no longer footy and they are right.

the worst of it all is the afl and everything about it is so sterile and heavily censored. you cant say what you think you cant criticise in any way or they rub you out or fine you.
if not for richmond i would gladly never watch another afl game in my life and i have always considered myself a lover of the game first and foremost. there are lots like me.