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Title: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Lozza on April 27, 2013, 08:23:27 AM
Last  night confirmed our need for a goal kicking skilful small forward is an absolute dire urgency. All top 8 sides have at least 1, need one to make and win finals. I cringed every time the ball hit the ground in our forward 50 last night as their tall defenders mopped up when a small forward should have been there. Surely somewhere in this vast land there is a talented Indigenous forward that fits this description, it really has to become our recruiters priority.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Damo on April 27, 2013, 08:46:40 AM
Elusive impact SUB is also a need.

Hoping Foley can fill this void for a few weeks.

Nahas comes on as the sub and had Hill and Ballantyne make him look like he was running in quicksand. How can a so called quickish small forward come onto the ground and be made to look slow when he is supposed to be fresh.

Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Penelope on April 27, 2013, 08:50:16 AM
they dont have to be indigenous though.

we also need a hit up type forward. someone that has a habit of finding space and taking marks inside 50 that has the opposition backmen pointing at each other and supporters going ape droppings wondering how the stuff they found themselves unmarked.

surely other teams supporters should go through what we do.  ::)

our whole forward setup seems haphazard at best.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 27, 2013, 08:52:38 AM
I'd be happy to be in the 22 but young Robin obviously sees being a sub as a stigma.
Todd Elton would have been handy last night instead of Nahas.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 27, 2013, 09:10:40 AM
Well i actually felt that Shed was beginning to make this role his own but last night he was forced up the ground as Tucky was absent and Lids was MIA.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: tigs2011 on April 27, 2013, 09:36:18 AM
Edwards will eventually go back to being one. Need 2 though with one being able to play midfield which is Edwards position. Geez it would have been nice to have pinched Walters 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 27, 2013, 09:39:59 AM
Last  night confirmed our need for a goal kicking skilful small forward is an absolute dire urgency. All top 8 sides have at least 1, need one to make and win finals. I cringed every time the ball hit the ground in our forward 50 last night as their tall defenders mopped up when a small forward should have been there. Surely somewhere in this vast land there is a talented Indigenous forward that fits this description, it really has to become our recruiters priority.

Exactly my thoughts.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on April 27, 2013, 12:19:24 PM
Well i actually felt that Shed was beginning to make this role his own but last night he was forced up the ground as Tucky was absent and Lids was MIA.

So clearly depth is still an issue, need to swap like for like
Edwards would have had more impact in the forward line especially in a tight game  he couldve created a spark.



Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 27, 2013, 12:22:36 PM
we are short a black feller
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: bojangles17 on April 27, 2013, 12:27:50 PM
Elusive impact SUB is also a need.

Hoping Foley can fill this void for a few weeks.

Nahas comes on as the sub and had Hill and Ballantyne make him look like he was running in quicksand. How can a so called quickish small forward come onto the ground and be made to look slow when he is supposed to be fresh.
I thought nahas should have started on the ground , we had no one at fall of the ball all night in the front half
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 27, 2013, 01:26:11 PM
NOHOPEARSE  SHOULE NEVER EVER PLAY AGAIN!
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Yeahright on April 27, 2013, 01:32:54 PM
Last  night confirmed our need for a goal kicking skilful small forward is an absolute dire urgency. All top 8 sides have at least 1, need one to make and win finals. I cringed every time the ball hit the ground in our forward 50 last night as their tall defenders mopped up when a small forward should have been there. Surely somewhere in this vast land there is a talented Indigenous forward that fits this description, it really has to become our recruiters priority.

Why do they have to be Indigenous?
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Lozza on April 27, 2013, 01:39:16 PM
Good question...they just generally seem good at it, sorry that's all I have  ::)
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: gerkin greg on April 27, 2013, 01:55:08 PM
should throw everything at the out of contract Eddie Betts

two birds with one stone, get a top shelf small fwd, **** over Carlton

 :cheers
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Rampstar on April 27, 2013, 01:59:24 PM
should throw everything at the out of contract Eddie Betts

two birds with one stone, get a top shelf small fwd, **** over Carlton

 :cheers

Betts would be an excellent acquisition
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 27, 2013, 02:32:11 PM
Last  night confirmed our need for a goal kicking skilful small forward is an absolute dire urgency. All top 8 sides have at least 1, need one to make and win finals. I cringed every time the ball hit the ground in our forward 50 last night as their tall defenders mopped up when a small forward should have been there. Surely somewhere in this vast land there is a talented Indigenous forward that fits this description, it really has to become our recruiters priority.

Why do they have to be Indigenous?
Excitement. Nothing like it IMO.
It's great for the game.
Imagine if Rioli was ours. How fantastic would that be.
It's probably not that important but it would be great if we had atleast one indigenous player.
Geelong have 4. Hawks have 4 or 5. The scum have 3. Freo have a few.
They add the X factor and excitement I love about this game.

Problem is we as a club we can't seem to recruit, develop or stop any of them successfully. 
I don't know why but this annoys me.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 27, 2013, 02:36:32 PM
Shane Edwards is doing okay Mr Tigra.
Has really looked like he belongs as a good soldier at AFL level last season and a bit. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 27, 2013, 04:16:07 PM
Last  night confirmed our need for a goal kicking skilful small forward is an absolute dire urgency. All top 8 sides have at least 1, need one to make and win finals. I cringed every time the ball hit the ground in our forward 50 last night as their tall defenders mopped up when a small forward should have been there. Surely somewhere in this vast land there is a talented Indigenous forward that fits this description, it really has to become our recruiters priority.

Why do they have to be Indigenous?

A lesbian, hairy arm pit, hippie,  witch white skinned sociology lecture once said to me it was racist to say black people are faster than white. I was then told it was coincidence the 100meter Olympic final was 8 big black gentleman.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 27, 2013, 04:22:02 PM
Last  night confirmed our need for a goal kicking skilful small forward is an absolute dire urgency. All top 8 sides have at least 1, need one to make and win finals. I cringed every time the ball hit the ground in our forward 50 last night as their tall defenders mopped up when a small forward should have been there. Surely somewhere in this vast land there is a talented Indigenous forward that fits this description, it really has to become our recruiters priority.

Why do they have to be Indigenous?

A lesbian, hairy arm pit, hippie,  witch white skinned sociology lecture once said to me it was racist to say black people are faster than white. I was then told it was coincidence the 100meter Olympic final was 8 big black gentleman.
:lol
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 27, 2013, 04:23:37 PM
Shane Edwards is doing okay Mr Tigra.
Has really looked like he belongs as a good soldier at AFL level last season and a bit. :thumbsup
Hes doing ok Tucker's but he'd have to be the worst kick of any indigenous player in the history of the AFL/VFL. He's no Betts as much as I hate to say anything positive about the cheating scum.

....good hands though.

Just love to see some real excitement machine. The X factor we're missing.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 27, 2013, 04:28:43 PM
Willie Rioli: he is one of the last pieces of the puzzle for completing our team.
He has friekish skills.
Give him the no.17 jumper too. We need to promote the Rioli tradition at Richmond.

Go on Tiges, take the chance!
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 27, 2013, 04:32:49 PM
Shane Edwards is doing okay Mr Tigra.
Has really looked like he belongs as a good soldier at AFL level last season and a bit. :thumbsup
Hes doing ok Tucker's but he'd have to be the worst kick of any indigenous player in the history of the AFL/VFL. He's no Betts as much as I hate to say anything positive about the cheating scum.

....good hands though.

Just love to see some real excitement machine. The X factor we're missing.

Lindsay Thomas is a worse kick than Titch. I see what you mean and I agree. :thumbsup
How about Liam Jurrah he'll chop it up in the forward line cutting through opposition defences?
While we are at it we'll take Luis Suarez too so we can add some bite to the forward line also.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: big tone on April 27, 2013, 05:09:32 PM
 Asked a similar question a few years back but the question was 'would you use our first draft pick on the best young small forward  in the land.'
Most said no. Pretty sure it was the year we drafted Conca.
Has people's thoughts changed?
If we had draft pick 9 or 10 at the end of this season, would it be worth going for one then?
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 27, 2013, 05:21:11 PM
As long as its not C Salem of brighton.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Chuck17 on April 27, 2013, 05:31:51 PM
Can we add some more tick boxes;

- hard at it
- tackling machine
- dead eye idiot in front of goals
- kick on both feet

No need to change thread title, Ta
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Damo on April 27, 2013, 06:22:12 PM
A lesbian, hairy arm pit, hippie,  witch white skinned sociology lecture once said to me it was racist to say black people are faster than white. I was then told it was coincidence the 100meter Olympic final was 8 big black gentleman.

Tell the silly cow to stick to what she knows.

It's all to do with bone density and is a proven scientific fact.

Why does she think white people are better swimmers? Also a coincidence?

Again scientific and again to do with bone density.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Penelope on April 27, 2013, 06:39:16 PM
other factors come into play, such as nutritional degeneration over generations of the whites.

In the case of american negroes there is also an artificially induced survival of the fittest.

for a start they selected the fittest and strongest for slaves and then the way they were treated ensured that only the strongest survived.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: bojangles17 on April 27, 2013, 09:43:14 PM
We should have kept Gibson turner with the right development he would have been setting the place a light by now :shh
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 28, 2013, 08:59:54 AM
In the case of american negroes there is also an artificially induced survival of the fittest.

for a start they selected the fittest and strongest for slaves and then the way they were treated ensured that only the strongest survived.

Exactly. And that was past on and reinforced over many generations.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: WA Tiger on April 28, 2013, 09:46:57 AM
This is what we need.....

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=2731.msg29263#msg29263
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on April 28, 2013, 09:51:09 AM
This is what we need.....

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=2731.msg29263#msg29263

Yesss WAT  :clapping
Thats the goal return we need from a nahas or edwards year in year out
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on April 28, 2013, 10:27:50 AM
Ironically we almost has Walters from Freo until Lyon stepped in.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: WA Tiger on April 28, 2013, 11:43:53 AM
This is what we need.....

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=2731.msg29263#msg29263

Yesss WAT  :clapping
Thats the goal return we need from a nahas or edwards year in year out

Yep, been calling this for years, same as we need another couple of experienced KPP's, Chaplin was the start, we now need a Milne type payer, a player other teams hate!! "Ballantine"!!!
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 28, 2013, 11:45:48 AM
This is what we need.....

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=2731.msg29263#msg29263

Yesss WAT  :clapping
Thats the goal return we need from a nahas or edwards year in year out

Yep, been calling this for years, same as we need another couple of experienced KPP's, Chaplin was the start, we now need a Milne type payer, a player other teams hate!! "Ballantine"!!!

You mean an upgrade on Jake King WAT. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: WA Tiger on April 28, 2013, 12:00:39 PM
This is what we need.....

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=2731.msg29263#msg29263

Yesss WAT  :clapping
Thats the goal return we need from a nahas or edwards year in year out

Yep, been calling this for years, same as we need another couple of experienced KPP's, Chaplin was the start, we now need a Milne type payer, a player other teams hate!! "Ballantine"!!!

You mean an upgrade on Jake King WAT. :thumbsup

 :lol...yeah pretty well, but I love Kingy!!
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 28, 2013, 12:18:00 PM
I've been over nanas for a long long time.

I'm more over him now.

A sub should have instant impact when they come on Nanas has more impact when he was sitting on the bench.
We really should've traded him when I suggested it a couple a years ago, when he had some currency.
How good would a player like yarran would be?
Speed, defensive pressure, sublime skills, goal scoring ability....
Just what we're missing.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 28, 2013, 12:20:29 PM
I've been over nanas for a long long time.

I'm more over him now.

A sub should have instant impact when they come on Nanas has more impact when he was sitting on the bench.
We really should've traded him when I suggested it a couple a years ago, when he had some currency.
How good would a player like yarran would be?
Speed, defensive pressure, sublime skills, goal scoring ability....
Just what we're missing.

Last yer he had high currency. In hindsight we maybe should have done something but then again he can kick goals too. GWS was the rumour. He owns AAMI Park and he'll play there against Port in a fortnight.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 28, 2013, 12:26:35 PM
I've been over nanas for a long long time.

I'm more over him now.

A sub should have instant impact when they come on Nanas has more impact when he was sitting on the bench.
We really should've traded him when I suggested it a couple a years ago, when he had some currency.
How good would a player like yarran would be?
Speed, defensive pressure, sublime skills, goal scoring ability....
Just what we're missing.

Last yer he had high currency. In hindsight we maybe should have done something but then again he can kick goals too. GWS was the rumour. He owns AAMI Park and he'll play there against Port in a fortnight.
I dunno Tucker.
I doubt he'll get a game next week and if he doesn't how could he play against Port unless we had an injury?
As a sub we need a player who can instantly impact a game it's just so important now IMO.
He was useless on Friday night when he came on.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 28, 2013, 12:31:25 PM
I've been over nanas for a long long time.

I'm more over him now.

A sub should have instant impact when they come on Nanas has more impact when he was sitting on the bench.
We really should've traded him when I suggested it a couple a years ago, when he had some currency.
How good would a player like yarran would be?
Speed, defensive pressure, sublime skills, goal scoring ability....
Just what we're missing.
The game was too tough for him on Friday. He prefers bruise free football!
Last yer he had high currency. In hindsight we maybe should have done something but then again he can kick goals too. GWS was the rumour. He owns AAMI Park and he'll play there against Port in a fortnight.
I dunno Tucker.
I doubt he'll get a game next week and if he doesn't how could he play against Port unless we had an injury?
As a sub we need a player who can instantly impact a game it's just so important now IMO.
He was useless on Friday night when he came on.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: tdy on April 28, 2013, 01:44:35 PM
Last  night confirmed our need for a goal kicking skilful small forward is an absolute dire urgency. All top 8 sides have at least 1, need one to make and win finals. I cringed every time the ball hit the ground in our forward 50 last night as their tall defenders mopped up when a small forward should have been there. Surely somewhere in this vast land there is a talented Indigenous forward that fits this description, it really has to become our recruiters priority.

Why do they have to be Indigenous?

A lesbian, hairy arm pit, hippie,  witch white skinned sociology lecture once said to me it was racist to say black people are faster than white. I was then told it was coincidence the 100meter Olympic final was 8 big black gentleman.

It's purely culture and opportunity, why are there so few black tennis players or golfers?  What, can't black men swing?  Why so few black swimmers too?  It's a numbers game about opportunity and the culture about any one given sport.  Racial genetics regarding speed are bollocks, black men don't have more fast twitch fibers than white men or Chinese men for that matter. 
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: tdy on April 28, 2013, 01:51:30 PM
I've been over nanas for a long long time.

I'm more over him now.

A sub should have instant impact when they come on Nanas has more impact when he was sitting on the bench.
We really should've traded him when I suggested it a couple a years ago, when he had some currency.
How good would a player like yarran would be?
Speed, defensive pressure, sublime skills, goal scoring ability....
Just what we're missing.

Yarran went top 10 in the draft.  You couldn't have traded for him.  And I'm pretty sure we have just picked the best player available in the draft.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Penelope on April 28, 2013, 02:04:13 PM
Last  night confirmed our need for a goal kicking skilful small forward is an absolute dire urgency. All top 8 sides have at least 1, need one to make and win finals. I cringed every time the ball hit the ground in our forward 50 last night as their tall defenders mopped up when a small forward should have been there. Surely somewhere in this vast land there is a talented Indigenous forward that fits this description, it really has to become our recruiters priority.

Why do they have to be Indigenous?

A lesbian, hairy arm pit, hippie,  witch white skinned sociology lecture once said to me it was racist to say black people are faster than white. I was then told it was coincidence the 100meter Olympic final was 8 big black gentleman.

It's purely culture and opportunity, why are there so few black tennis players or golfers?  What, can't black men swing?  Why so few black swimmers too?  It's a numbers game about opportunity and the culture about any one given sport.  Racial genetics regarding speed are bollocks, black men don't have more fast twitch fibers than white men or Chinese men for that matter.
are you saying that reason why americas fastest sprinters are mostly black is that they more opportunity than whites in this field?

I take it that African Americans don't have the opportunity to run long distance they they do in sprinting?

why is long distance running dominated by africans?
It wouldn't have anything to do with they way these people have hunted for millennia? That is chasing their quarry on foot for long distances? The fact that those that could not do this adequately would have trouble getting a wife and providing for the family, or perish themselves, wouldn't affect their genetics over countless generations?
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Yeahright on April 28, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Last  night confirmed our need for a goal kicking skilful small forward is an absolute dire urgency. All top 8 sides have at least 1, need one to make and win finals. I cringed every time the ball hit the ground in our forward 50 last night as their tall defenders mopped up when a small forward should have been there. Surely somewhere in this vast land there is a talented Indigenous forward that fits this description, it really has to become our recruiters priority.

Why do they have to be Indigenous?
Excitement. Nothing like it IMO.
It's great for the game.
Imagine if Rioli was ours. How fantastic would that be.
It's probably not that important but it would be great if we had atleast one indigenous player.
Geelong have 4. Hawks have 4 or 5. The scum have 3. Freo have a few.
They add the X factor and excitement I love about this game.

Problem is we as a club we can't seem to recruit, develop or stop any of them successfully. 
I don't know why but this annoys me.

I only want white players because they are consistent
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Bengal on April 28, 2013, 05:21:24 PM
Last  night confirmed our need for a goal kicking skilful small forward is an absolute dire urgency. All top 8 sides have at least 1, need one to make and win finals. I cringed every time the ball hit the ground in our forward 50 last night as their tall defenders mopped up when a small forward should have been there. Surely somewhere in this vast land there is a talented Indigenous forward that fits this description, it really has to become our recruiters priority.

Why do they have to be Indigenous?
Excitement. Nothing like it IMO.
It's great for the game.
Imagine if Rioli was ours. How fantastic would that be.
It's probably not that important but it would be great if we had atleast one indigenous player.
Geelong have 4. Hawks have 4 or 5. The scum have 3. Freo have a few.
They add the X factor and excitement I love about this game.

Problem is we as a club we can't seem to recruit, develop or stop any of them successfully. 
I don't know why but this annoys me.

I only want white players because they are consistent

 i hope thats tongue in cheek and not purely racist comments
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Yeahright on April 28, 2013, 06:24:05 PM
Last  night confirmed our need for a goal kicking skilful small forward is an absolute dire urgency. All top 8 sides have at least 1, need one to make and win finals. I cringed every time the ball hit the ground in our forward 50 last night as their tall defenders mopped up when a small forward should have been there. Surely somewhere in this vast land there is a talented Indigenous forward that fits this description, it really has to become our recruiters priority.

Why do they have to be Indigenous?
Excitement. Nothing like it IMO.
It's great for the game.
Imagine if Rioli was ours. How fantastic would that be.
It's probably not that important but it would be great if we had atleast one indigenous player.
Geelong have 4. Hawks have 4 or 5. The scum have 3. Freo have a few.
They add the X factor and excitement I love about this game.

Problem is we as a club we can't seem to recruit, develop or stop any of them successfully. 
I don't know why but this annoys me.

I only want white players because they are consistent

 i hope thats tongue in cheek and not purely racist comments
:shh
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Bengal on April 28, 2013, 07:16:49 PM
 :thumbsup
Last  night confirmed our need for a goal kicking skilful small forward is an absolute dire urgency. All top 8 sides have at least 1, need one to make and win finals. I cringed every time the ball hit the ground in our forward 50 last night as their tall defenders mopped up when a small forward should have been there. Surely somewhere in this vast land there is a talented Indigenous forward that fits this description, it really has to become our recruiters priority.

Why do they have to be Indigenous?
Excitement. Nothing like it IMO.
It's great for the game.
Imagine if Rioli was ours. How fantastic would that be.
It's probably not that important but it would be great if we had atleast one indigenous player.
Geelong have 4. Hawks have 4 or 5. The scum have 3. Freo have a few.
They add the X factor and excitement I love about this game.

Problem is we as a club we can't seem to recruit, develop or stop any of them successfully. 
I don't know why but this annoys me.

I only want white players because they are consistent

 i hope thats tongue in cheek and not purely racist comments
:shh
:thumbsup
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: wayne on April 29, 2013, 01:34:44 PM
um.... this guy i'm thinking of would be very cheap, we play him strictly as a crumbing forward, no stints in the midfield.....

Aaron Davey  :shh

Melbourne have tried to make him a midfielder, we put him back where he belongs, in the F50 at the feet of the big forwards. He applies great defensive pressure, i'd mature age rookie him if he is delisted.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: mightytiges on May 11, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
We are struggling to find one elusive skilful and quick and footy smart small or midsized forward while Geelong have Motlop, Stokes and Christensen running around along with Varcoe still to come back into their side  :-\. Our guys don't know the meaning of being front and square and so rarely have anyone at the fall of the ball from a pack situation in our forward line.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Yeahright on May 11, 2013, 10:14:33 AM
When all our mids are back that'll hopefully leave Edwards to do it
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 11, 2013, 10:28:40 AM
We are struggling to find one elusive skilful and quick and footy smart small or midsized forward while Geelong have Motlop, Stokes and Christensen running around along with Varcoe still to come back into their side  :-\. Our guys don't know the meaning of being front and square and so rarely have anyone at the fall of the ball from a pack situation in our forward line.
It really is frustrating that some teams ie. cats & blues seem to have plenty of those types and we can't seem to find one.
Isn't McDonough supposed to be a goal sneak?

I personally think that an indigenous forward is the most exciting type, someone with pure natural speed too that can do the miraculous things we all pay to see at the footy.
Problem is we just can't seem to find or develop any indigenous players.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Gigantor on May 11, 2013, 10:59:55 AM
you want elusive ,skilful forward?..Add tuff to the list..........and bingo..jake king
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: mightytiges on May 11, 2013, 01:39:32 PM
you want elusive ,skilful forward?..Add tuff to the list..........and bingo..jake king
I wouldn't necessarily associate the word 'skilful' with Kingy. He's not silky skilled; more of a hard nut.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Smokey on May 11, 2013, 07:01:00 PM
We are struggling to find one elusive skilful and quick and footy smart small or midsized forward while Geelong have Motlop, Stokes and Christensen running around along with Varcoe still to come back into their side  :-\. Our guys don't know the meaning of being front and square and so rarely have anyone at the fall of the ball from a pack situation in our forward line.
It really is frustrating that some teams ie. cats & blues seem to have plenty of those types and we can't seem to find one.
Isn't McDonough supposed to be a goal sneak?

I personally think that an indigenous forward is the most exciting type, someone with pure natural speed too that can do the miraculous things we all pay to see at the footy.
Problem is we just can't seem to find or develop any indigenous players.

Doesn't have to be indigenous and not every team has one (or more).  As our "small forward" Kingy goes ok, puts very very good pressure on the ball carrier and has enough tricks to compete.  That position is not our short suit.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Golfprotiger on May 11, 2013, 08:11:36 PM
you want elusive ,skilful forward?..Add tuff to the list..........and bingo..jake king
I wouldn't necessarily associate the word 'skilful' with Kingy. He's not silky skilled; more of a hard nut.

Yep and he has kicked 7 in two weeks :cheers
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 11, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
We are struggling to find one elusive skilful and quick and footy smart small or midsized forward while Geelong have Motlop, Stokes and Christensen running around along with Varcoe still to come back into their side  :-\. Our guys don't know the meaning of being front and square and so rarely have anyone at the fall of the ball from a pack situation in our forward line.
It really is frustrating that some teams ie. cats & blues seem to have plenty of those types and we can't seem to find one.
Isn't McDonough supposed to be a goal sneak?

I personally think that an indigenous forward is the most exciting type, someone with pure natural speed too that can do the miraculous things we all pay to see at the footy.
Problem is we just can't seem to find or develop any indigenous players.

Doesn't have to be indigenous and not every team has one (or more).  As our "small forward" Kingy goes ok, puts very very good pressure on the ball carrier and has enough tricks to compete.  That position is not our short suit.
I know a small forward doesn't have to be indigenous but I just like to see some black magic in our team. There's nothing better in my opinion. As good as Jake "Pins" King has been he hasn't got the x-factor of a black man.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Smokey on May 11, 2013, 08:39:20 PM

 but I just like to see some black magic in our team. There's nothing better in my opinion. As good as Jake "Pins" King has been he hasn't got the x-factor of a black man.

X Factor means unreliable and overrated in my opinion.  Would rather an even effort every week than a flashy BOG every other month or so.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Chuck17 on May 11, 2013, 09:09:14 PM
Brings bad memories black and x factor
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 12, 2013, 12:22:38 PM
When everyone is fit he middle is strong

Deledio  cotchin  martin  foley  conca  Ellis  vlastuin etc.

Shane Edwards forward. Bobs your uncle.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 12, 2013, 12:30:17 PM
Still think a Wilie Rioli would round us off well!
We need a player that can make something out of nothing. That is what I define X factor as.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: eliminator on May 12, 2013, 01:01:19 PM
you want elusive ,skilful forward?..Add tuff to the list..........and bingo..jake king
I wouldn't necessarily associate the word 'skilful' with Kingy. He's not silky skilled; more of a hard nut.

The goals he kicked against Port were of a high standard. His skills have definitely improved under Hardwick and he put in yet another fantastic performance. His work rate in the forwardline is very inspiring.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Gigantor on May 12, 2013, 02:53:13 PM
Kingy has no X factor ,none whatsoever ,what he does have is the G and D factor and the "get out of my way ,because i'm going through you" factor
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Smokey on May 13, 2013, 08:20:35 AM
Kingy has no X factor ,none whatsoever ,what he does have is the G and D factor and the "get out of my way ,because i'm going through you" factor

Which I personally rate about a thousand levels higher than any X factor.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Rampstar on May 13, 2013, 08:23:07 AM
Kingy has no X factor ,none whatsoever ,what he does have is the G and D factor and the "get out of my way ,because i'm going through you" factor

Which I personally rate about a thousand levels higher than any X factor.

I agree with Hash on this. Kings developed into a pretty decent player IMHO.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: gerkin greg on May 13, 2013, 10:40:31 AM
Still think a Wilie Rioli would round us off well!
We need a player that can make something out of nothing. That is what I define X factor as.

Do we have any dibs on him? Cyril's cousin yeah?

Heard he's a bit umm 'stocky', but was BOG in the NTFL granny and been going ok for Sth Freo i think

Be bloody terrific to have a Rioli on the books again – as long as he's not on the turtle burgers
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on May 13, 2013, 11:40:08 AM
I'd take a risk with Dayle Garlett.Should have gone top 10 in last years draft but for off field issues,But with Mark Williams on board i reckon he's worth the risk.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Yeahright on May 13, 2013, 11:45:35 AM
I'd take a risk with Dayle Garlett.Should have gone top 10 in last years draft but for off field issues,But with Mark Williams on board i reckon he's worth the risk.

Only with late round pick
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on May 13, 2013, 01:34:36 PM
Still think a Wilie Rioli would round us off well!
We need a player that can make something out of nothing. That is what I define X factor as.

Do we have any dibs on him? Cyril's cousin yeah?

Heard he's a bit umm 'stocky', but was BOG in the NTFL granny and been going ok for Sth Freo i think

Be bloody terrific to have a Rioli on the books again – as long as he's not on the turtle burgers
:clapping
Awesome to see a Rioli in yellow & black again.

Would hate to see him in any other colour.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: tiga on May 13, 2013, 01:51:27 PM
Still think McDonough if given a bit of time could be the answer. Of the one Coburg game I saw him play v Willy, he looked pretty good.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 13, 2013, 02:01:27 PM
I'll tell u a secret. We have been training salem of Brighton for 2-3 years now and are well keen for him. Personally I certainly wouldn't want to use our first rounder on him.
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: gerkin greg on May 13, 2013, 02:25:58 PM
I'll tell u a secret. We have been training salem of Brighton for 2-3 years now and are well keen for him. Personally I certainly wouldn't want to use our first rounder on him.

another Lebo  :cheers

isn't he a mid though?
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 13, 2013, 02:30:56 PM
Fwd / mid

Was playing hff last championships metro
Title: Re: Elusive skilful forward
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 13, 2013, 03:26:04 PM
Still think a Wilie Rioli would round us off well!
We need a player that can make something out of nothing. That is what I define X factor as.

Do we have any dibs on him? Cyril's cousin yeah?

Heard he's a bit umm 'stocky', but was BOG in the NTFL granny and been going ok for Sth Freo i think

Be bloody terrific to have a Rioli on the books again – as long as he's not on the turtle burgers
You can train out puppy fat.  You cannot teach magic!