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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 06, 2013, 05:02:44 PM
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Ivan hopefully will be back :pray
Fire away ....? :help
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Injuries ?
Jackson
Ellis
Bring in Arnott and Tuck for these two. Bring in Astbury for Batch
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Out Jackson (inj) Stephenson,Batchelor and White all ommitted
In - Anybody prepared to have a fair dinkum crack
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We've already lost next week's game
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We've already lost next week's game
If we lose next week their will be no finals for us in 2013 :'(
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Out Jackson (inj) Stephenson,Batchelor and White all ommitted
In - Anybody prepared to have a fair dinkum crack
Would agree with all those bar White, who had a crack. Would add Vlaustin to the outs if his form today was caused by a lingering injury.
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We've already lost next week's game
If we lose next week their will be no finals for us in 2013 :'(
We'll lose... It's our destiny
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McBean and Arnots in
Take your pick for outs
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Out: Stephenson, Dea, Jackson, McBean
In: I.Maric, Houli, Tuck, Edwards
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Have a horrid feeling that Arnot/Tuck will get injured tomorrow. After watching todays games it how our luck is running, couldn't take a trick today.
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Out: Hardwick
In: John Northey
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Out: Stephenson, Dea, Jackson, McBean
In: I.Maric, Houli, Tuck, Edwards
Sheesh, McBean is stiff!
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Out: Stephenson, Dea, Jackson, McBean
In: I.Maric, Houli, Tuck, Edwards
Sheesh, McBean is stiff!
:lol
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Where was houli today? Injured? Got to the game 5 mins in and saw dea running Around instead
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Can you drop 18 no make that 22 :banghead
INS: Maric, Tuck, Houli, Arnot
OUTS: Stephenson, Dea, Bathelor, Jackson (inj)
Alot of blokes are very lucky
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Out Jackson (inj) Stephenson,Batchelor and White all ommitted
In - Anybody prepared to have a fair dinkum crack
White was prob amongst our best with 19 possies and 2 goals...did you see the game ::)
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Out: Stephenson, Dea, Jackson, McBean
In: I.Maric, Houli, Tuck, Edwards
Sheesh, McBean is stiff!
Lol, very stiff lol
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Can you drop 18 no make that 22 :banghead
INS: Maric, Tuck, Houli, Arnot
OUTS: Stephenson, Dea, Bathelor, Jackson (inj)
Alot of blokes are very lucky
Thought of you today WP. I know how much you hate North.
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Out White
In - Anybody prepared to have a fair dinkum crack
Gee Ramps, think that's harsh.
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Out White
In - Anybody prepared to have a fair dinkum crack
You've got to be joking Ramps
Matty White is one player who always has a crack, did again today pity some of his more credentialed team mates didn't show the same the same intensity
Thought of you today WP. I know how much you hate North.
Was a very bad day. Could see a loss coming 20 minutes into the 1st qtr but not that sort of loss
Pathetic
Terrific, just terrific TM
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If anything Matty white derserves a full game and at the least the supersub spot.
Would hope to bring in maric, houli, tuck, arnott, mcbean/griff and a better attitude
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Outs. Stephenson, Dea , Batchelor Vlastin
Ins. Maric , Houli Petterd Tuck.
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I understand people wanting to bring in Griff.he has all the attributes,tall,strong,thumping kick etc.All I ask is that people go and watch him in the magoos,he cant get near the pill.I reckon if they shoved a heat seeking device in the blasted thing he would still avoid it.
More than anyone on our playing list I hope he makes it, because talls that can roost the pill 60 metres all the time ,only come along once every decade or so I reckon
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Out Jackson (inj) Stephenson,Batchelor and White all ommitted
In - Anybody prepared to have a fair dinkum crack
White was prob amongst our best with 19 possies and 2 goals...did you see the game ::)
White is not good enough to play 25% + game time
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out
white
king
jackson
orren
grigg
aaron edwards
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After playing North with 4 goal Tarrant 24y/o and 3 goal Black 22y/o as well as 15 mark Hansen 24y/o teaching our team a valuable lesson;
It pays to play youngsters & give them games.
Lockup has done ok but it's a waste of time and yesterday showed us why.
We still don't know if Griffiths, Elton are worth persisting with.
With Petrie in his 30s North don't have those questions about their youngsters.
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Although he doesnt deserve it according to his VFL form ( havent heard from the latest game ) I recon it might be worth bringing Griffiths up for batch, were going to have to see what hes made of at some time right?
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If anything bring Elton up,hes shown more than griff
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Did
Hansen
Black
Tarrent
have to prove them self at VFL?
I doubt it.
They were played cause high draft picks
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Out Jackson (inj) Stephenson,Batchelor and White all ommitted
In - Anybody prepared to have a fair dinkum crack
White was prob amongst our best with 19 possies and 2 goals...did you see the game ::)
White is not good enough to play 25% + game time
And thats the exact reason why he needs to go back to Coburg. IMHO you cant have a player who is a specialist sub which is what he is becoming. You need someone who can do good things over the course of the match. Not just the last quarter ans Matty has never been able to do it over the course of whole games on a consistent basis.
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Maric, Houli, Tuck and biscuit in
Out Ellis(inj), A Edwards, Stephenson and Dea
There is merit in dropping Batchelor but who do you bring in . If Batchelor is dropped would consider Griffiths Astbury or Elton.
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Out White
In - Anybody prepared to have a fair dinkum crack
You've got to be joking Ramps
Matty White is one player who always has a crack, did again today pity some of his more credentialed team mates didn't show the same the same intensity
Thought of you today WP. I know how much you hate North.
Was a very bad day. Could see a loss coming 20 minutes into the 1st qtr but not that sort of loss
Pathetic
Terrific, just terrific TM
Coming out and running through the banner I quipped with a friend they had no intensity.
Some where laughing and talking to one another and walked through the banner.
Terrible.
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Did Hansen. Black? Torrent have to prove them self?
I doubt it.
They were played cause high draft picks
I agree. Sometimes you just have to play them.
Elton 20y/o round 1 pick 26 (2011) 1 games.
Griffiths 21y/o round 2 pick 19. (2009) 19 games
Black 22 y/o round 2 pick 25 (2009) 14 games
Vickery 23 y/o round 1 pick 8 (2008) 67 games
Tarrant 23 y/o round 1 pick 15 (2007) 30 games
Rance 23 y/o round 1 pick 18 (2007) 80 games
Hansen 24 y/o round 1 pick 3 (2006) 91 games
Riewoldt 24 y/o round 1 pick 13 (2006) 126 games.
Some guys just get games even when sometimes they struggle and lets face it we've seen it from Vickery and Rance.
It's time to put some games into the youngens. Griff is Ready.
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Maric, Houli, Tuck and biscuit in
Out Ellis(inj), A Edwards, Stephenson and Dea
There is merit in dropping Batchelor but who do you bring in . If Batchelor is dropped would consider Griffiths Astbury or Elton.
Petterd
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Lol at peturd bombing it in with those precision helicopter kicks, just what we need
Dr Jack is back in da house
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Maric, Houli, Tuck and biscuit in
Out Ellis(inj), A Edwards, Stephenson and Dea
There is merit in dropping Batchelor but who do you bring in . If Batchelor is dropped would consider Griffiths Astbury or Elton.
Petterd
Get real
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nothing hs changed for me.
structure needs to be the following and it doesnt neccesarily have to be the following tall players.
b/ #### - chaplin - astbury
hb/ #### - rance - #### so that is one tall in astbury in. would play morris vlastuin and dea as the sml/med backs.
hf #### - riewoldt - #### .
f/ vickery - griffiths/mcguane/mcbean - #### . in one of griffiths,mcguane,or mcbean, vickery plays as the floating ruckman forward. when hes in the ruck we at the least maintain two genuine kpfs. we could then use aaron edwards as a medium.
would look to have s edwards play more as a sml forwrd and seeing as there are no other options kingy is the best of a bad lot to keep his place.
r/ maric - #### - #### obviously in ivan who changes with his ruck partner vickery both forward and on the bench.
mids onballers
cotchin, deledio, tuck,martin,foley, ellis, newman, conca, arnot, houli.
ins would go - astbury, maric,tuck houli one of griffiths, mcbean,mcguane.
outs would go batchelor, white, stephenson, jackson grigg.
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Out: Stephenson, Dea, Ellis (inj.)
In: Maric, Houli, Tuck
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Did Hansen. Black? Torrent have to prove them self?
I doubt it.
They were played cause high draft picks
I agree. Sometimes you just have to play them.
Elton 20y/o round 1 pick 26 (2011) 1 games.
Griffiths 21y/o round 2 pick 19. (2009) 19 games
Black 22 y/o round 2 pick 25 (2009) 14 games
Vickery 23 y/o round 1 pick 8 (2008) 67 games
Tarrant 23 y/o round 1 pick 15 (2007) 30 games
Rance 23 y/o round 1 pick 18 (2007) 80 games
Hansen 24 y/o round 1 pick 3 (2006) 91 games
Riewoldt 24 y/o round 1 pick 13 (2006) 126 games.
Some guys just get games even when sometimes they struggle and lets face it we've seen it from Vickery and Rance.
It's time to put some games into the youngens. Griff is Ready.
The strange thing is these stats counter your argument.
The blokes you have listed have averaged more games per year of service than these blokes you reckon didnt have to earn their spot in the seconds for north.
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In: Petterd, Arnot, Griffiths
Out: Cotchin, Dea, Riewoldt
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Ellis should play. Big boy Mcevoy copped a heaver knock and played. Don't get soft Tigers
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Out: Stephenson, Dea, Ellis (inj.)
In: Maric, Houli, Tuck
My choices too. Only question mark I have is Ellis is an outside runner while Tuck is an inside extractor. Maybe just a couple of role swaps on the day but otherwise good selections for mine.
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Did Hansen. Black? Torrent have to prove them self?
I doubt it.
They were played cause high draft picks
I agree. Sometimes you just have to play them.
Elton 20y/o round 1 pick 26 (2011) 1 games.
Griffiths 21y/o round 2 pick 19. (2009) 19 games
Black 22 y/o round 2 pick 25 (2009) 14 games
Vickery 23 y/o round 1 pick 8 (2008) 67 games
Tarrant 23 y/o round 1 pick 15 (2007) 30 games
Rance 23 y/o round 1 pick 18 (2007) 80 games
Hansen 24 y/o round 1 pick 3 (2006) 91 games
Riewoldt 24 y/o round 1 pick 13 (2006) 126 games.
Some guys just get games even when sometimes they struggle and lets face it we've seen it from Vickery and Rance.
It's time to put some games into the youngens. Griff is Ready.
The strange thing is these stats counter your argument.
The blokes you have listed have averaged more games per year of service than these blokes you reckon didnt have to earn their spot in the seconds for north.
Your probably right Al. :lol
But my point is that some guys are given games ie. Reiwoldt, Vickery, Hansen, early in their careers despite having poor performances.
Who thought Jack was ever going to be more than a third tall? I didn't.
Vickery is still frustrating. Hansen despite poor performances has finally showed something down back.
Scott said if they didn't give his guys a shot they'd be still playing reserves. That's why they made the decision to trade Lockup. Actually the decision was made after they got thrashed by the dawks last year. Now because of this they are forced to play those guys and ultimately they develop quicker.
The same could be said for Roughhead at the dawks and Hawkins at Geelong. It took them a while but they were better off playing regular senior footy.
Lockup may get us to finals but after he's finished we are still waiting on Griffiths/Elton/McBean.
IMO Griffiths should be tried as the third tall to fast track his development and help the team dynamics for the future.
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We need Dylan Grimes back desperately. That is all.
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Richmond's reality-check defeat to North Melbourne was compounded by an ankle injury to Daniel Jackson, the late withdrawal of Bachar Houli with a hamstring issue, and the accidental concussion of promising youngster Brandon Ellis.
The trio is in doubt for the Tigers' clash with Gold Coast at Cazaly's Stadium, where they are winless from two encounters with the Suns.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-08/out-or-doubt-for-stars
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Richmond's reality-check defeat to North Melbourne was compounded by an ankle injury to Daniel Jackson, the late withdrawal of Bachar Houli with a hamstring issue, and the accidental concussion of promising youngster Brandon Ellis.
The trio is in doubt for the Tigers' clash with Gold Coast at Cazaly's Stadium, where they are winless from two encounters with the Suns.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-08/out-or-doubt-for-stars
Lol no Ellis, Houli or Jacko. Might as well not show up.
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two squibs and a dud, my how things have changed
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The Barometer - Round 16
Herald-Sun
Monday, July 8 2013
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK:
Brandon Ellis was substituted out of the heavy loss to the Roos with concussion. He must pass tests this week but should be deemed fit to face the Suns. Nick Vlastuin returned but struggled to have an impact, while Matt Dea didn’t have his best day. Orren Stephenson will only survive if Maric doesn’t come up.
ON THE CUSP:
IF Damien Hardwick wants a good, solid big-bodied midfielder to strengthen his engine room against the young Suns then Shane Tuck is his man. The veteran collected 30 disposals for Coburg in the VFL and again impressed with his attitude and leadership. Luke McGuane booted a pair of goals while Maric is an outside chance of returning from a groin strain. Houli said on Sunday he should be fine to return for Multicultural Round.
SAM LANDSBERGER’S FORECAST:
PAUL Roos reckons the Tigers played the worst 47 seconds in footy history 12 months ago when they somehow squandered a lead against Gold Coast in Cairns. The Tigers are 0-2 against the Suns at the tropical spot and Saturday will end their deal to play home games up there for good. If it ends in another loss the Tigers will lose a huge chunk of credibility – and it could spell trouble with Sydney (away) and Hawthorn to follow.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-barometer-whos-hurt-and-whos-in-line-stuff-1226675920493
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two squibs and a dud, my how things have changed
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I don't suppose Richo could come into our forward line to provide another marking option?
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Ivan, Houli and Jacko expected to be right to play this week; Ellis to be tested.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-07-08/key-tigers-in-the-frame-for-gold-coast-clash
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Richmond's reality-check defeat to North Melbourne was compounded by an ankle injury to Daniel Jackson, the late withdrawal of Bachar Houli with a hamstring issue, and the accidental concussion of promising youngster Brandon Ellis.
The trio is in doubt for the Tigers' clash with Gold Coast at Cazaly's Stadium, where they are winless from two encounters with the Suns.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-08/out-or-doubt-for-stars
Straight swaps.
Jackson for Tuck
Houli for Petterd
Ellis for Arnot
Also Maric for Stephenson.
Doubt it would happen though. Those changes would be picking a team on form rather than the pets.
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two squibs and a dud, my how things have changed
Good comment Coach
:lol
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Richmond's reality-check defeat to North Melbourne was compounded by an ankle injury to Daniel Jackson, the late withdrawal of Bachar Houli with a hamstring issue, and the accidental concussion of promising youngster Brandon Ellis.
The trio is in doubt for the Tigers' clash with Gold Coast at Cazaly's Stadium, where they are winless from two encounters with the Suns.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-08/out-or-doubt-for-stars
Straight swaps.
Jackson for Tuck
Houli for Petterd
Ellis for Arnot
Also Maric for Stephenson.
Doubt it would happen though. Those changes would be picking a team on form rather than the pets.
Petterd didn't play against Nort Reds. You mean Dea. :laugh:
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RFC site states
"And in-form midfielder Daniel Jackson is expected to be fit to play the Suns, despite being hampered by an ankle injury in the match against the Kangaroos."
Thank god. We may as well put Nahas and McGuane back in as well.
For my money if Tuck doesn't play this week they can stick their club up their back side. Arnott should be in as well. We were as weak as urine last week. My grandmother has more fight in her and she's been dead 3 years.
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They will make Tuck retire 10 years early.
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In the mix: round 16
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
Tuesday, July 9, 2013
Richmond
Half-back Bachar Houli, who was a late withdrawal against the North Melbourne, is expected to return from hamstring soreness for Saturday night's clash against Gold Coast in Cairns. Ruckman Ivan Maric is also set for inclusion after two weeks on the sidelines because of a groin strain. Stoppage specialist Shane Tuck has returned from a shoulder injury through the VFL and appears ready for an AFL recall, while Matthew Arnot and Ricky Petterd have pressed strong claims with Coburg. Brandon Ellis will need to pass a concussion test this week, while Daniel Jackson (ankle) is expected to be fit.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-09/afls-in-the-mix-round-16
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In the mix: round 16
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
Tuesday, July 9, 2013
Richmond
Half-back Bachar Houli, who was a late withdrawal against the North Melbourne, is expected to return from hamstring soreness for Saturday night's clash against Gold Coast in Cairns. Ruckman Ivan Maric is also set for inclusion after two weeks on the sidelines because of a groin strain. Stoppage specialist Shane Tuck has returned from a shoulder injury through the VFL and appears ready for an AFL recall, while Matthew Arnot and Ricky Petterd have pressed strong claims with Coburg. Brandon Ellis will need to pass a concussion test this week, while Daniel Jackson (ankle) is expected to be fit.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-09/afls-in-the-mix-round-16
Any idea how they do the concussion test?
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Any idea how they do the concussion test?
All the players do the test prior to the season IIRC to calibrate their "normal" state. So when they do the test again after suffering concussion, the doctor can compare and see if the player has suffered any ill effects from a knock to the head.
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Any idea how they do the concussion test?
All the players do the test prior to the season IIRC to calibrate their "normal" state. So when they do the test again after suffering concussion, the doctor can compare and see if the player has suffered any ill effects from a knock to the head.
And Chappy failed it after the pies game?
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.... and Ramadan started today, so that will impact Houli in the Cairns heat ....
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.... and Ramadan started today, so that will impact Houli in the Cairns heat ....
I remember him (Houli) mentioning last year that under certain conditions in particular with regard to employment and being able undertake his job properly he can get special permission to break the fasting for short periods
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b/ morris - chaplin - rance
hb/ ellis - astbury - vlastuin
c/ deledio - tuck - ellis
hf/ newman - riewoldt - martin
f/ vickery - mcbean - s edwards
r/ maric - cotchin - foley
int/ a edwards - arnot - conca - houli
wont happen.
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b/ morris - chaplin - rance
hb/ ellis - astbury - vlastuin
c/ deledio - tuck - ellis
hf/ newman - riewoldt - martin
f/ vickery - mcbean - s edwards
r/ maric - cotchin - foley
int/ a edwards - arnot - conca - houli
wont happen.
Good team claw.
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nothing hs changed for me.
structure needs to be the following and it doesnt neccesarily have to be the following tall players.
b/ #### - chaplin - astbury
hb/ #### - rance - #### so that is one tall in astbury in. would play morris vlastuin and dea as the sml/med backs.
hf #### - riewoldt - #### .
f/ vickery - griffiths/mcguane/mcbean - #### . in one of griffiths,mcguane,or mcbean, vickery plays as the floating ruckman forward. when hes in the ruck we at the least maintain two genuine kpfs. we could then use aaron edwards as a medium.
would look to have s edwards play more as a sml forwrd and seeing as there are no other options kingy is the best of a bad lot to keep his place.
r/ maric - #### - #### obviously in ivan who changes with his ruck partner vickery both forward and on the bench.
mids onballers
cotchin, deledio, tuck,martin,foley, ellis, newman, conca, arnot, houli.
ins would go - astbury, maric,tuck houli one of griffiths, mcbean,mcguane.
outs would go batchelor, white, stephenson, jackson grigg.
I agree with the need for three proper talls at each end.
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.... and Ramadan started today, so that will impact Houli in the Cairns heat ....
I remember him (Houli) mentioning last year that under certain conditions in particular with regard to employment and being able undertake his job properly he can get special permission to break the fasting for short periods
From God?
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b/ morris - chaplin - rance
hb/ ellis - astbury - vlastuin
c/ deledio - tuck - ellis
hf/ newman - riewoldt - martin
f/ vickery - mcbean - s edwards
r/ maric - cotchin - foley
int/ a edwards - arnot - conca - houli
wont happen.
This is my overall best 22.
If Grimes was fit I would play him but I like Astbury as the first replacment.
If Knights was fit he would get Aaron Edwards spot. Given the current situation I would Helbig or McDonut.
b/ morris - chaplin - rance
hb/ ellis - astbury/or Grimes - vlastuin
c/ deledio - tuck - ellis
hf/ newman - riewoldt - martin
f/ vickery - mcbean/or Griffiths - s edwards
r/ maric - cotchin - foley
int/ - arnot - conca - houli
no aaron edwards -
great minds think alike.. 8)
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b/ morris - chaplin - rance
hb/ ellis - astbury - vlastuin
c/ deledio - tuck - ellis
hf/ newman - riewoldt - martin
f/ vickery - mcbean - s edwards
r/ maric - cotchin - foley
int/ a edwards - arnot - conca - houli
wont happen.
:-X
Rance - Grimes - Morris
Ellis - Chaplin - Houli
Vlastuin - Tuck - Conca
S Edwards - Riewoldt - Arnot
McBean - Vickery - Martin
Maric - Deledio - Cotchin
Knights - NEwman - Foley
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In: Cousins
Out: Cotchin
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/events/tommy-hafey-club.workstation
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nothing hs changed for me.
structure needs to be the following and it doesnt neccesarily have to be the following tall players.
b/ #### - chaplin - astbury
hb/ #### - rance - #### so that is one tall in astbury in. would play morris vlastuin and dea as the sml/med backs.
hf #### - riewoldt - #### .
f/ vickery - griffiths/mcguane/mcbean - #### . in one of griffiths,mcguane,or mcbean, vickery plays as the floating ruckman forward. when hes in the ruck we at the least maintain two genuine kpfs. we could then use aaron edwards as a medium.
would look to have s edwards play more as a sml forwrd and seeing as there are no other options kingy is the best of a bad lot to keep his place.
r/ maric - #### - #### obviously in ivan who changes with his ruck partner vickery both forward and on the bench.
mids onballers
cotchin, deledio, tuck,martin,foley, ellis, newman, conca, arnot, houli.
ins would go - astbury, maric,tuck houli one of griffiths, mcbean,mcguane.
outs would go batchelor, white, stephenson, jackson grigg.
good post
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Why are observers (myself included) differing so much from the selection panel.......ipso facto - game-plan first, players to suit that game-plan second. We haven't bought into the current game-plan as it hasn't reaped rewards against quality sides. The next 4 weeks will tell if it lives or dies.
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Why are observers (myself included) differing so much from the selection panel.......ipso facto - game-plan first, players to suit that game-plan second. We haven't bought into the current game-plan as it hasn't reaped rewards against quality sides. The next 4 weeks will tell if it lives or dies.
I would argue that due to injury and selection decisions - we at time at missing half our our best 22.
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Richmond v Gold Coast
Coming off their worst loss of the season expect Damien Hardwick to ring the changes for the trip to Cairns to take on bogey side Gold Coast. Brandon Ellis is touch and go after being concussed, while Matt Dea was quiet and Daniel Jackson is battling an ankle issue. First-year player Nick Vlastuin appears to have hit a wall and looks likely to be sent back to the VFL. Big inclusions with Bachar Houli, Shane Tuck and Ivan Maric all set to play.
An even bigger inclusion for the Suns though with captain Gary Ablett to play after missing last week's loss with a calf injury. Sam Day will miss with a groin injury with Matthew Warnock and Seb Tape in line to replace the key position player.
http://www.sportal.com.au/news-display/afl-team-whispersround-16-243232
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Coburg have a bye this weekend due to the VFL split round. So whoever gets dropped will be having the weekend off along with the rest of our non-22ers.
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Richmond v Gold Coast
Coming off their worst loss of the season expect Damien Hardwick to ring the changes for the trip to Cairns to take on bogey side Gold Coast. Brandon Ellis is touch and go after being concussed, while Matt Dea was quiet and Daniel Jackson is battling an ankle issue. First-year player Nick Vlastuin appears to have hit a wall and looks likely to be sent back to the VFL. Big inclusions with Bachar Houli, Shane Tuck and Ivan Maric all set to play.
An even bigger inclusion for the Suns though with captain Gary Ablett to play after missing last week's loss with a calf injury. Sam Day will miss with a groin injury with Matthew Warnock and Seb Tape in line to replace the key position player.
http://www.sportal.com.au/news-display/afl-team-whispersround-16-243232
Afl website saying Houli going to miss
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