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Title: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on September 09, 2013, 11:00:05 AM

Thought I would start a thread to keep track of the loonies who will control the Senate and make Tony's life hell.

First up is the Liberal Democrat David Leyonhjelm

 
NSW sends pro-gun Liberal Democrat David Leyonhjelm to Senate

By state political reporter Liz Foschia and Mhairi McClymont


The man elected to take one of six Senate seats in New South Wales says allowing the general public to carry weapons is one way of curbing gun crime   in western Sydney.

Voters in New South Wales have chosen Liberal Democrat David Leyonhjelm for the Senate after the party appeared in the top left hand corner of ballot papers.

The seldom-mentioned party gained 8.89 per cent of the initial vote allocation, ahead of the Greens' 7.77 per cent.

The party, which believes in social libertarianism, a free market economy and small government now joins a key group of minor party and independent senators set to hold the balance of power after July next year.

David Leyonhjelm is a former vet who runs an agribusiness consulting company in Sydney.

His biography says he has been a member of Young Labor, the Liberals and the Shooters Party since getting into politics in the early 1970's.

He left the Liberals because of John Howard's crackdown on guns following the Port Arthur Massacre, describing it as "a disgraceful attack on law-abiding citizens."
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Chuck17 on September 09, 2013, 11:26:22 AM
Grrreeeeaaatttt Thanks for that 65
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 09, 2013, 12:07:36 PM
merge with the american guns thread
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2013, 01:12:54 PM
Waiting for your post on the fine "nutjobs" representing the Assange party

Did they even get a senate seat  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on September 09, 2013, 01:42:46 PM

and now the Senator representing the Motoring Enthusiast Party: Ricky Muir


Likely senator dodges questions about kangaroo poo fight video
 
Date September 9, 2013 - 12:56PM

Jonathan Swan
 
Senator for poo fights?

Two days after the poll that could put little know Victorian Ricky Muir in the Senate, he's dealing with his first 'scandal'; a video that appears to show him engaged in a poo fight.

Thanks to the quirks of minor party preferences some unconventional candidates appear to be headed for the upper house in Canberra. With some of these likely senators dodging the media, journalists are left to piece together their backgrounds from the scraps available online.

Ricky Muir, the likely Victorian senator from the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party, who would take his place in July next year, appears to have a more colourful past than most.

In a video taken from his YouTube account, which was made private soon after the election on Saturday night, Mr Muir appears to be filmed taking part in a backyard kangaroo faeces fight.

The video, titled "Family Fight in Australia", appears to depict the likely senator, who sports a thick moustache and goatee, running around a garden with his friends, who are hurling kangaroo faeces and laughing hysterically.

We know it is kangaroo faeces because the person holding the video camera picks up a brown pellet, examines it, and says: "This is kangaroo poo. Yum yum."

In another scene in the video, a man who bears a striking resemblance to Mr Muir, perches on the roof of a four-wheel drive and spits in the direction of the camera.

At yet another point, the same man creeps up behind his friend and pulls down the man's pants. Later in the video, he strikes his friend with jousting sticks


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/likely-senator-dodges-questions-about-kangaroo-poo-fight-video-20130909-2tf8j.html#ixzz2eMQcQ8L8
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: tiger101 on September 09, 2013, 02:47:10 PM
Its a joke that minority parties get such such a low % of the vote yet still get into the senate via secret preference deals. They need to reform the senate voting system. Allow us to give our own preference to each party above the line. Its also ridiculous at how many people can get on the ballot.

Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2013, 02:57:11 PM
Its a joke that minority parties get such such a low % of the vote yet still get into the senate via secret preference deals. They need to reform the senate voting system. Allow us to give our own preference to each party above the line. Its also ridiculous at how many people can get on the ballot.

totally agree

The senate voting paper was at least a metre and half long  :rollin
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: mightytiges on September 09, 2013, 03:42:58 PM
Its a joke that minority parties get such such a low % of the vote yet still get into the senate via secret preference deals. They need to reform the senate voting system. Allow us to give our own preference to each party above the line. Its also ridiculous at how many people can get on the ballot.

totally agree

The senate voting paper was at least a metre and half long  :rollin
By law the Senate voting paper can not be longer than that a metre and half or whatever it is. They've actually had to reduce the font size to fit all the candidates on the white ballot paper. That's why there are magnifying glasses provided now days. Visually impaired groups are complaining to the AEC about it.

As for the preference deals, there now professional consultants that these minor parties go to to maximise their possible quota vote. Then you have the guntotting Liberal Democrat candidate getting in only because nearly 10% of NSW voters confused him as being a Liberal or they just put in a donkey vote and he was first name on the ballot paper. 
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: mightytiges on September 09, 2013, 04:06:26 PM

Thought I would start a thread to keep track of the loonies who will control the Senate and make Tony's life hell.
Here's the full six ...

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/six-people-you-won8217t-believe-could-be-elected/story-e6frfkp9-1226715202378#mm-breached

They won't make Tony's life hell though as they are conservative nutjobs and will support him on most things such the abolition of any form of Carbon pricing. In fact the only way they can make things difficult for Abbott is by making ultra-conservative demands to try and push the Libs towards the far-right such demanding the Libs make austerity cuts which Abbott has promised not to. Some will also oppose his PPL scheme which isn't a bad thing but politically it could put Abbott in a bind if he fails to get it through the Senate given he's promised it. Opposed to that though is Family First who not only want taxpayers to pay for Tony's PPL scheme but also a similar overly-generous scheme for all families (where the money is coming from is anyone's guess?).
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on September 09, 2013, 04:37:39 PM
Some will also oppose his PPL scheme which isn't a bad thing but politically it could put Abbott in a bind if he fails to get it through the Senate given he's promised it.

What isn't a bad thing?

Tony's PPL scheme or that some will oppose it?

 :cheers
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on September 09, 2013, 05:06:39 PM

This one reckons she's worse than Pauline Hanson.

 :lol

'I don't back down': PUP's Tasmania candidate Jacqui Lambie warns Tony Abbott

Jacqui Lambie doesn't have a Senate seat yet, but already the former military policewoman from Tasmania has her sights fixed on Prime Minister-elect Tony Abbott.

"If he thinks that Pauline Hanson was a pain in the rear end, Tony Abbott better look out," she said. "He hasn't come up against Jacqui Lambie."

and...

The one-time Liberal supporter said from her home in Burnie: "It's far too much of a boys' club in the Liberals."

and...

"Tony Abbott will find out that, because of my military training, I don't back down," Ms Lambie said. "I was a military policewoman, and so before I make a decision I want to see all the facts on the table."

Her sights are currently set on policies such as the Coalition's paid parental leave scheme.

"This is absolutely ridiculous," Ms Lambie said. "You've got pensioners around me living off dog food, and who can't afford heating. It makes me wild."

At least the Coalition could take comfort from the space between the election result and the new Senate as Ms Lambie champs at the bit.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/i-dont-back-down-pups-tasmania-candidate-jacqui-lambie-warns-tony-abbott-20130909-2tfnk.html#ixzz2eNQV8rXo
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2013, 06:07:28 PM
Waiting for your post on the fine "nutjobs" representing the Assange party

Did they even get a senate seat  ;D

Still waiting for an answer
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on September 09, 2013, 06:18:02 PM
Waiting for your post on the fine "nutjobs" representing the Assange party

Did they even get a senate seat  ;D

Still waiting for an answer

Sorry, are you talking to me?

 :huh
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2013, 06:27:07 PM
Waiting for your post on the fine "nutjobs" representing the Assange party

Did they even get a senate seat  ;D

Still waiting for an answer

Sorry, are you talking to me?

 :huh

Yes
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Yeahright on September 09, 2013, 06:36:34 PM
There's already a politics thread. Merge
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on September 09, 2013, 06:37:44 PM
There's already a politics thread. Merge

Thread has been hijacked by rogue elements with agendas

 :lol

 :cheers

WP, what do you want?
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 09, 2013, 06:39:59 PM
There's already a politics thread. Merge

Thread has been hijacked by rogue elements with agendas

 :lol

 :cheers

WP, what do you want?

You are posting about "senate nut jobs" I want to when we can expect your post about the nut jobs representing the Assange Party

Or didnt they win a seat
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on September 09, 2013, 06:43:50 PM
There's already a politics thread. Merge

Thread has been hijacked by rogue elements with agendas

 :lol

 :cheers

WP, what do you want?

You are posting about "senate nut jobs" I want to when we can expect your post about the nut jobs representing the Assange Party

Or didnt they win a seat

Didn't even come close.

and they are amongst the worst of the nut cases.

This thread, I thought, might be an on-going analysis of those who did get into the senate.

 :cheers
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Smokey on September 10, 2013, 08:23:38 AM

"This is absolutely ridiculous," Ms Lambie said. "You've got pensioners around me living off dog food, and who can't afford heating. It makes me wild."

I always laugh at wankers who trot this line out.  It's more expensive to buy cans of pet food than it is cans of human food so in reality all they are saying is that "I'm too stupid to eat human food".   :wallywink
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 10, 2013, 08:40:07 AM

"This is absolutely ridiculous," Ms Lambie said. "You've got pensioners around me living off dog food, and who can't afford heating. It makes me wild."

I always laugh at wankers who trot this line out.  It's more expensive to buy cans of pet food than it is cans of human food so in reality all they are saying is that "I'm too stupid to eat human food".   :wallywink

 :lol

Seriously though I agree with you. As you know we have 3 dogs; 3 large dogs and their fortnight food bill is bigger than our fortnightly meat & vegies bill.  :thumbsup ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on September 10, 2013, 08:50:51 AM

Yes, one would think twice about owning dogs if they drank as much alcohol as us.

 :lol

 :cheers
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on September 10, 2013, 08:57:51 AM
Just how did Ricky Muir win a $190,000 job in the Senate?

Here's how. (for those interested)


How did we get here?

14.29% is the quota for election to the Senate.

How could 0.52% win a seat for Ricky Muir of the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party?

First preference votes (Monday morning)

Coalition 39.55% = 2 seats + 10.97% to be distributed

Labor 33.16% = 2 seats + 4.58%

Greens 11.03%

Another 37 groups have a total of 16.26%

Ricky Muir is 13th with 0.52%

 

Lowest-placed candidates are eliminated

Ricky Muir picks up preferences from:

Bank Reform Party (.05%); Fishing party (0.46%); HEMP (Marijuana) party (0.59%); Shooters party (0.80%); Senator on Line (0.23%); Stable Population (0.12%); Bullet Train (0.14%)

Eight remain

Greens 11.18%; Liberal 10.99%; Sex Party 4.67%; ALP 4.60%; Palmer Party 4.25%; Ricky Muir 2.91%; Rise Up Australia 2.20%; Family First 2.05%

Family First goes out. Preferences from it and the far-right Citizens Electoral Council go to Ricky Muir

Greens 11.18; Liberal  10.99; Sex Party 4.67; ALP 4.6%; Ricky Muir 4.49%; Palmer Party 4.25%; Rise Up Australia 2.67%

Rise Up Australia goes out. Its preferences and those from the NoCarbon Tax Climate Sceptics and Building Australia go to Ricky Muir

Liberal 11.46%; Greens 11.18%; Ricky Muir 5.69%; Sex Party 4.98%; Palmer 4.94; ALP 4.60%

ALP goes out and its preferences elect the Greens to the fifth spot. Greens surplus is then distributed

Liberal 11.49%; Sex party 6.45%; Ricky Muir 5.7%; Palmer Party 4.94%;

Palmer Party goes out. Its preferences and those of the DLP and Katter’s Australian Party go to Ricky Muir

Liberal 11.49%; Ricky Muir 10.94%; Sex Party 6.45%

Sex party then goes out. Its preferences and those of Wikileaks, Animal Justice, Australian Independents, Drug Law Reform, Australian Voice and Stop CSG then elect Ricky to the sixth spot.

Ricky Muir 15.02%


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/greens-push-to-fix-senate-vote-process-20130909-2tgcf.html#ixzz2eRHUN9E3
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: mightytiges on September 14, 2013, 05:28:03 PM
Some will also oppose his PPL scheme which isn't a bad thing but politically it could put Abbott in a bind if he fails to get it through the Senate given he's promised it.

What isn't a bad thing?

Tony's PPL scheme or that some will oppose it?

 :cheers
Opposing the PPL scheme would be a good thing. Taxpayer-funded welfare should only go to those that desperately need it.

As for the Senate vote with its proportional voting quotas, well we all knew the rules before this election and elections past. Too late to complain about it now as democracy is about accepting the electoral rules going into an election and then the electorate's decision even if you don't like the result  :P and even if you think afterwards the rules and a number of voters are stupid ;D. That especially goes for anti-republicans who say the constitution is perfect as is and doesn't need any reform or change whatsoever  :wallywink.

At least Sophie Mirabella lost her seat. One less nutter in parliament lol.
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on September 14, 2013, 06:06:32 PM

This looks like a fun senator...

Sex Party senate hopeful's $100m marijuana pitch 
Date September 14, 2013 - 3:33PM

Phillip Thomson
 
A Sex Party candidate who lives in Canberra is in the running to become a senator for Tasmania on a platform of making it Australia’s marijuana capital.

(http://images.canberratimes.com.au/2013/09/14/4747618/art729-swan1-620x349.jpg)

A distance of 1100km did not stop Robbie Swan from putting himself forward as a Senate candidate and campaigning for the island state to be turned into the nation’s ‘‘mull bowl’’

‘‘This would be worth $100 million a year just for Tasmania and it could be worth $2.4 billion - it was a serious policy,’’ Mr Swan said.

As of Friday Mr Swan was battling it out for the final Tasmanian Senate position, although experts considered him an outsider after polling less than 1.5 per cent and was most likely to be beaten at the post by the Palmer United Party’s Jacqui Lambie or Liberal Sally Chandler.

Tasmania already grows large quantities of poppies for morphine production.

The Sex Party candidate and long time territory resident said numerous states in America were loosening marijuana laws and Australia would soon be left behind.


Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/sex-party-senate-hopefuls-100m-marijuana-pitch-20130914-2tra9.html#ixzz2eqtwURq0
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: mightytiges on September 15, 2013, 01:01:18 AM
Marijuana is de-criminalised in the A.C.T. so all the dope-heads can go there if they want. Same goes for those who want to buy fireworks. About the only 'activities' that exist after hours in Canberra :yep.
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: dwaino on September 15, 2013, 01:24:57 AM
I actually voted Sex Party in the senate  :cheers
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: tiga on September 16, 2013, 10:57:36 AM

"This is absolutely ridiculous," Ms Lambie said. "You've got pensioners around me living off dog food, and who can't afford heating. It makes me wild."

I always laugh at wankers who trot this line out.  It's more expensive to buy cans of pet food than it is cans of human food so in reality all they are saying is that "I'm too stupid to eat human food".   :wallywink

You know Damn right Smokey!  ;D My Dog costs me a friggin fortune!
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 16, 2013, 11:07:33 AM
You know Damn right Smokey!  ;D My Dog costs me a friggin fortune!

With ya tiga

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Penelope on September 16, 2013, 11:11:50 AM
y'all obviously buying the wrong food for your dogs
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: tiga on September 16, 2013, 11:15:46 AM
y'all obviously buying the wrong food for your dogs
Chicken necks for Brekkie, Supercoat dry for Din din's and assorted dog bones as a treat.
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Penelope on September 16, 2013, 11:20:25 AM
you're on the right path with the necks tiga  :thumbsup

a box of chicken frames per week for about 18 bucks keeps a large and medium dog well fed and healthy.
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: tiga on September 16, 2013, 11:23:24 AM
you're on the right path with the necks tiga  :thumbsup

a box of chicken frames per week for about 18 bucks keeps a large and medium dog well fed and healthy.

al what are Chicken frames? Carcasses? necks cost me 4 bucks a kilo and he gets half a kilo for brekkie. How many kilo's in a box of frames?
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 16, 2013, 12:06:13 PM
y'all obviously buying the wrong food for your dogs

No

Super Coat dry food for Brekkie = low fat for Jonty & Flame and Puppy mix for Nisha  :thumbsup

Premium quality gourmet dog food for "din dins"

1kg bags of Beef mince with cooked Pasta, rice, vegetables, garlic and assortment of vitamins and minerals  :thumbsup

Cost us about $6.30 a bag. Every dog we've had has been on this food (the mince) and all lived long healthy lives  :thumbsup

We buy 21 bags a fortnight. 1.5kgs a night between the 3 of them. The 2 large dogs the Mal and Lab get the most and the Aussie Shepherd (medium size) get's a smaller serving

Chuck in plenty of exercise

Pigs ears are a weekly treat, marrow bones for their teeth once a month

And bingo



Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Penelope on September 16, 2013, 12:21:59 PM
you're on the right path with the necks tiga  :thumbsup

a box of chicken frames per week for about 18 bucks keeps a large and medium dog well fed and healthy.

al what are Chicken frames? Carcasses? necks cost me 4 bucks a kilo and he gets half a kilo for brekkie. How many kilo's in a box of frames?
yeah chicken carcasses. i get them from lennards. I think there may be 8kg to a box.

I was feeding a 20kg dog 2 and the large girl (35kg) 5 every two days, but the vet suggested i go to daily feeding for the old girl so now the little bloke gets 1 a day and she gets 2-3 each day. a box feeds them for just over a week.

A few years ago  we though the old girl was on her last legs. she had two strokes in about 6 months and then later just started losing weight. no matter how much i fed her she would not put it back on. changed to the carcasses and she hasnt looked back.

despite an unnatural diet of dried food and marrow bones ( which stuffed her teeth as well as suffering skin problems) when she was young she is now over 12, which is very old for a dog her size. had some probably cancerous lumps cut out the other day, but she still runs about like a fool when its tucker time.
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: tiga on September 16, 2013, 01:21:27 PM
Thanks al,

I think this thread has been officially hijacked.  ;D But it has proven that we love our pets and we all try to do our best for them. Although WP when I read what you were feeding your four legged clan, I was about to ask for an invite to dinner.  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Penelope on September 16, 2013, 01:31:24 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 16, 2013, 01:35:56 PM
Thanks al,

I think this thread has been officially hijacked.  ;D But it has proven that we love our pets and we all try to do our best for them. Although WP when I read what you were feeding your four legged clan, I was about to ask for an invite to dinner.  ;D

 :lol :lol

It's actually award winning dog food  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Penelope on September 16, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
sorry to say this billy, but it is unadulterated crap. actually that's not true, it is adulterated crap.
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 16, 2013, 01:48:09 PM
sorry to say this billy, but it is unadulterated crap. actually that's not true, it is adulterated crap.

 :lol :lol

Each to their own al.

It's good stuff, the dogs love it and more than happy to pay what it costs us.

The bloke who makes the food is a breeder of champion German Shepherds. He's a dog behavouralist, has set up one of the best "Pet Resorts" in Vicotria. We've done all our pupply kinder and dog training with all of our dogs with him. He's spent his entire life in the dog industry, he knows what he is doing and his reputation cannot be questioned.

As I said we are happy to pay what it costs and as long as the four legged kids are happy and healthy it's worth ever cent, Yep we spoil them and we wouldn't have it any other way   :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Penelope on September 16, 2013, 02:22:55 PM
just a quick question billy, where in the dogs evolution did their digestive system adjust to eating grain processed under high pressure and temperature?

breeder of champion german shepards you say? are they the dogs that used to be the pride of germany but are now bred with back legs too short, walk like crabs and end up with spinal problems.
i know exactly the type of person you describe. one who knows how to make a buck by exploiting well meaning but gullible pet owners. the industry is full of them.

i'd be willing to bet i have as good a knowledge about dog behavior as anyone who uses that pox label on themselves.it's not that difficult really. the problem is that to change a dog's behavior you need to change the owners behavior, something I discovered was near on impossible in the long term, particularly for those that have pets as surrogate children.
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: tiga on September 16, 2013, 02:38:34 PM
al is there enough meat on the chicken frames for a full sized very active Border Collie or do I have to supplement it?
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Penelope on September 16, 2013, 02:48:53 PM
to be honest i couldn't say for sure. it probably depends on exactly how active. dogs are pretty efficient at converting protein into energy and chicken is an easily digested source of protein ( which is why i think it was so good for my old girl) if you did have to suppliment it wouldn't be with much. Fish is also good if they will eat it, i just couldn't be bothered driving all the way to the fish mongers for the cheaper fish these days.

further to the last post, if anyone wants to learn about dog behavior Turid Ruggass is a name to remember .
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 16, 2013, 03:13:13 PM
Marijuana is de-criminalised in the A.C.T. so all the dope-heads can go there if they want. Same goes for those who want to buy fireworks. About the only 'activities' that exist after hours in Canberra :yep.

adelaide too

the law is retarrted. weed has zero recorded fatalities. its a weed hence its hard to tax hence its not legal

grog and tabbaco are killing millions but are taxable hence legal
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 16, 2013, 03:36:06 PM
just a quick question billy, where in the dogs evolution did their digestive system adjust to eating grain processed under high pressure and temperature?

breeder of champion german shepards you say? are they the dogs that used to be the pride of germany but are now bred with back legs too short, walk like crabs and end up with spinal problems.
i know exactly the type of person you describe. one who knows how to make a buck by exploiting well meaning but gullible pet owners. the industry is full of them.

i'd be willing to bet i have as good a knowledge about dog behavior as anyone who uses that pox label on themselves.it's not that difficult really. the problem is that to change a dog's behavior you need to change the owners behavior, something I discovered was near on impossible in the long term, particularly for those that have pets as surrogate children.

al, it's clear that it doens't matter what I say you are going to think this bloke is dodgy and we are am some sort of gullible pet owners. We aren't.

We put alot of time and effort into what we do food wise, training wise, breed selection etc.

We were maticulous in who we chose to do training with. We were/are maticulous in deciding on the diet of our first Malamaute, we sort advice from our vet because werne't happy with what the advice given to us by so called Malamute experts. Our vet who've I known since I was in high school recommended the beef mince that we buy and that's how we got onto this bloke. Our first Mal lived until she was 13 which is an incredible age for a Malamute seeing their average age is 9-10. We never had problems with her weight so I reckon we got her diet right

As I said we are maticulous regarding the training we've undertaken and the methods this bloke has taught us work. We rarely walk the 2 older ones on lead. Nisha being only 9 months hasn't graduated to off lead walking as yey but his training for that will start in the next few weeks. They walk beside us, they dont wander. When people walk towards us we move to one side sit the dogs down and they don't move. If they see another dog they don't run off, they stay with us. We are always being stopped in the street while we are walking and being told how well behaved our dogs are. So I reckon we've done ok with the choices we've made for them.

I've underlined something you wrote; that is about to change a dogs behaviour you need to change the owners behaviour. You are correct and this is one of the things this bloke teaches us as owners.

I will back this bloke in every day of the week. He is one of the most reputable people in the canine industry not only here in Victoria but in other states as well.

 
 

Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Penelope on September 16, 2013, 05:13:21 PM
its not so this bloke is dodgy, but the whole industry.

I have no doubt that you have been meticulous, but unless you get the right advise/knowledge to start with then it doesn't matter.

dried dog food in particular is an absolute scourge, but very few vets will ever tell you that. most of them have signs up all over their surgery and sell the stuff.

do yourself and your dogs a favour and do some research into raw feeding. try to mimick what the dogs have evolved to eat. the beef mince with pasta and veges and multivitamins is not so bad, but still is a lot of money to pay when you can feed them just as healthily for cheaper.

It does sound like you have your dogs under control, but i do hope you let them run and frolic and generally enjoy themselves a bit.

what is this dudes name and does he have a name for the methods he teaches?
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 16, 2013, 06:21:45 PM

It does sound like you have your dogs under control, but i do hope you let them run and frolic and generally enjoy themselves a bit.

Absolutely, we take them to the big off lead area down near Altona beach all the time. They are. Free to run and go crazy. But when we call them back they comeback.

Trust me they are incredibly spoilt  :laugh:

We are off on holidays in October to Bright and they come with us. We will have them down at the river for fun a dames
 
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what is this dudes name and does he have a name for the methods he teaches?

His main focus in training he hates it when we use that word, is socialised walking and voice control 

I'll go through Ll the paperwork we've accumulated over the years and try find the correct name for it

:thumbsup
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Penelope on September 16, 2013, 06:30:38 PM
just his name will do billy

did he ever talk about bears?
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 16, 2013, 06:40:38 PM
just his name will do billy

did he ever talk about bears?

Nah

Vern Ryan
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on September 21, 2013, 04:46:00 PM
Not a Senator but certainly a nutjob.

I wonder if he realises that his vote will mean absolutely nothing.

I have corrected the Age's spelling error (unlike the Age)



Clive Palmer wins Fairfax by just 36 votes

Mining giant Clive Palmer has narrowly won the seat of Fairfax by just 36 votes, in a knife-edge result destined for a recount.

At 2.30pm, the Australian Electoral Commission finished its count, announcing Mr Palmer had won the seat by three dozen votes, after clawing back from an earlier margin of just 22 votes.

If the margin of votes at the completion of the distribution of preferences is less than 100, a recount will be automatically triggered. The Australian Electoral Commission will waste no time, beginning its recount on Monday.

''There will be a full distribution of preferences which is a fresh count in any case,'' AEC spokesman Phil Diak said.

Mr Palmer had led the count by 111 overnight.

Early on Saturday, scruinteers   scrutineers began the final stage of counting for the seat, tallying some 450 votes that had yet to be counted, plus any late-arriving postal votes.

Mr Palmer is overseas and on Thursday tweeted that he had been having tests of a ''Titanic II'' model conducted at a facility in Germany.

But he has already indicated that he would demand a recount whatever the result, accusing authorities of ''tampering'' with ballots earlier in the week.

''I'll formally request a recount in the seat of Fairfax due to evidence of tampering of the ballots and discrepancies with the count,'' he said.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/clive-palmer-wins-fairfax-by-just-36-votes-20130921-2u65o.html#ixzz2fVUv9utx
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on October 06, 2013, 08:41:44 PM

Liberal Democrats nutcase senator

 :lol

Leyonhjelm proposes asylum seeker tariff

Liberal Democrats senator-elect David Leyonhjelm has proposed an open door asylum seeker policy that would charge people $50,000 for permanent residency in Australia.

Mr Leyonhjelm, who will join the Senate on July 1, will be one of eight senators from minor parties who will hold the balance of power in the upper house.

He wants to keep access to welfare and other benefits exclusive to Australian citizens and then open up the nation's front door to asylum seekers - at a cost of $50,000.

"People are coming to Australia, they don't have work skills but they still find it attractive from a welfare point of view," he said.

Advertisement "(Under the proposed policy) when you get here you're allowed to work, you don't get locked up, but you don't have access to welfare."

It would then become an economic consideration for asylum seekers, he said.

"If you don't think you can get a job and support yourself, you don't come," he said.

"They would say to themselves: 'Is it worth my while spending $50,000 to come here, knowing that if I can't get a job it's money down the drain'?".



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/leyonhjelm-proposes-asylum-seeker-tariff-20131006-2v1u7.html#ixzz2gvvnkaFr
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: Chuck17 on October 06, 2013, 08:43:45 PM
FFS go make up some poo and post it in the trades thread
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: 1965 on October 07, 2013, 10:09:20 PM

This one hasn't even started and his own party is at war with itself.

Motoring Enthusiasts in chaos as Queenslanders sack Victorian arm
Date October 7, 2013 - 5:35PM

Heath Aston

The political party behind 4WD-loving senator-elect, Ricky Muir, has descended into civil war.

The Queensland-based founders of the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party have sacked the leadership of the Victorian arm of the party - effectively leaving the 32 year-old media-shy father of five representing a party that does not currently exist in that state.

In a letter sent over the weekend to 290 Motoring Enthusiast members in Victoria, party chairman Tony Standfield said the central executive, run out of Queensland, would take on a caretaker role before a new federal state council can be voted into existence.

The executive, which includes party founder and national secretary Keith Littler, raised six points justifying the decision to terminate the five-member Victorian hierarchy.

They included the establishment of an unauthorised Facebook page by the Victorian branch, correspondence with the media against the party's strict guidelines and policy announcements that did not square with the executive's position.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/motoring-enthusiasts-in-chaos-as-queenslanders-sack-victorian-arm-20131007-2v427.html#ixzz2h27beZVZ
Title: Re: 2014 Senate nutjobs
Post by: tiga on October 17, 2013, 12:09:59 PM
Wow...And people wonder why we only have two major political parties.