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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Coach on February 14, 2014, 10:08:12 PM
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What an outrageous result.
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What an outrageous thread... :thumbsup
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coach has produced another stunning thread which we can all use for the next 10 years. well done coachy! :clapping
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Rebuild on the verge of failure.
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Sack the coach
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Rebuild on the verge of failure.
that too ;D
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Do Not want
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Where do we go from here?
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Where do we go form here?
the vfa
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After all the pre-season hype they serve up this...outrageous! I'm shocked! No, I'm outraged!
What an outrages thread... :thumbsup
Considering the fact I am saving Alaska I do find it outrageous. Say it with me WAT, OUTRAEGOUS
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I heard GWS went on to great things after touching up Sydney last NAB cup.
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I'd suggest tonight was a worse loss than round 6, 2007.
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Where do we go from here?
Promote grigg to leadership group
Modern day
Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov
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To my fellow posters,
Good night and good luck. Until next time.
Che
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Che bro
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I can't believe that more people aren't peed off with tonight's performance. Practice match or not, that effort stunk like a truckload of rotten fish.
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The last 5 minutes of the match concerned me gfar more than the first 115. I actually though it was good the match was close and that we Melbourne hit the front at the last change and saw as an opportunity to step up a gear and practice winning tight ones and coming from behind. Really should have put a side like Melbourne away instead of dropping our bundle in a disturbingly all-too-familiar way. My kingdom for a smart, composed Richmond side.
There were other concerns too, but it's a practice match so I'll just leave it at that. Until the real stuff starts we can't really leap to too many conclusions, as tempting as it is. Also hope there's maybe a bit of cat & mouse at play here.
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Claw was right, we are the Dees bunnies.
Start tanking for draft picks
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After all the pre-season hype they serve up this...outrageous! I'm shocked! No, I'm outraged!
What an outrages thread... :thumbsup
Considering the fact I am saving Alaska I do find it outrageous. Say it with me WAT, OUTRAEGOUS
Who wants to bump on Saturday 15th March? You or me? :lol
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I can't believe that more people aren't peed off with tonight's performance. Practice match or not, that effort stunk like a truckload of rotten fish.
Preseason game where one team turned up to play at full on 100% while the other (us) had a number of players mostly jog around in 2nd gear not giving a stuff about the result. It really was bruise free footy from our part. We played like 18 individuals at times - any loose ball or spoil and we didn't have a teammate backing-up to gain possession. It didn't help that we had too many talls. Az Edwards plays like a tall so effectively we were playing with a 4 tall forward line (hello no crumbers) and a 3 tall defence against a small and quick Melbourne forward line. We would never set-up like that in a real game.
Apparently we played with only 4 on the bench for the whole night in readiness for the real stuff while Melbourne played according the NAB rules of 6 interchange and 2 subs. Word is we are also in a heavy training phase. So that might explain the lethargy. We did the same last year or the year before from memory against the Dogs in a preseason game and looked slow as treacle in that game too.
That interchange infringement was also a momentum killer. Az Edwards was about to collect the ball on our forward 50 yet the umps took the infringement from where the kick out of the centre took place, then added the 50m, giving Melbourne a freebie shot and goal. It was effectively a 100m penalty. It's a joke of rule! Imagine losing a Grand Final due to crap like that that has nothing to do with what is going onfield.
I hate losing but I remember us with a team of cubs flogging the Cats at Yea by 10 goals in a preseason game. These games and results mean nothing. If we are playing like last night against both Collingwood and Essendon then I might start to worry but not yet.
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No it is not good enough!
We are supposedly palying for a top 4 spot, Melbourne won 2 games last year!
Look what the Hawks did to Brisbane!
Dont think we have the killer mentality and still those underlying demons of the past that we have to shake!
Going to have to be a massive turn around to get into that top bracket!
It is just the first hitout of the year the only saving grace!
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I still cant believe we didnt jag a win....
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Claw was right, we are the Dees bunnies.
Start tanking for draft picks
Do you ever have anything to say other than absolute poo?? Honestly I have been reading every post from you and there is nothing constructive, ever!!
Why don't you just stuff off to Bigfooty and stay there, your comments are becoming lame, boring and pathetic. Your not funny your just a knob!
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Who's your daddy?
Did we lose? I was watching the cricket :lol
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Who's your daddy?
Did we lose? I was watching the cricket :lol
Cricket was great!!
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Well it may mean nothing, change the scenario, we whip them by 50 points, would that help our membership?
me so sad
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Although it would have been nice to win, I actually think losing may have been a better outcome for us in a strange way.
Some of the boys look like they think they are a shoe in for a top 8 position. A loss to the Dees will make them think they are not as good as they are assuming and that they have to bring their A grade game every time to the park if they want a decent result.
Dimma will let them know this in no uncertain terms.
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Didn't think we'd miss Mcguane this much.
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Didn't think we'd miss Mcguane this much.
:lol
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Didn't think we'd miss Mcguane this much.
All jokes aside A Edwards is not the answer. He misses the important goals and is far too easily beaten when matched up against taller defenders. Love to see rather Lloyd, McBean or Guff claim this spot
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My membership is now a shrinky dink
looks pretty cool actually...
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I can't believe that more people aren't peed off with tonight's performance. Practice match or not, that effort stunk like a truckload of rotten fish.
They played like they didn't care, so why should I ;D
Praccy game, not switched on, didn't give a you know whatski
that was last night
Oh and based on last night serious questions remain about our "depth" ;D
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Didn't think we'd miss Mcguane this much.
All jokes aside A Edwards is not the answer. He misses the important goals and is far too easily beaten when matched up against taller defenders. Love to see rather Lloyd, McBean or Guff claim this spot
Agree on Edwards.Would rather get game time in someone younger as you mentioned.
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What does it all mean...very little
Hawks lost every game in the Nab Cup last year ...got beaten by Gold Coast and the Western Bulldogs ( who were on a 12 game losing streak) . Despite this Hawthorn went on and had a pretty decent year.
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Best player Miles by a mile.....
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What does it all mean...very little
Hawks lost every game in the Nab Cup last year ...got beaten by Gold Coast and the Western Bulldogs ( who were on a 12 game losing streak) . Despite this Hawthorn went on and had a pretty decent year.
Hawthorn aren't mentally rooted though. They're a class outfit
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What does it all mean...very little
Hawks lost every game in the Nab Cup last year ...got beaten by Gold Coast and the Western Bulldogs ( who were on a 12 game losing streak) . Despite this Hawthorn went on and had a pretty decent year.
Of course it all means diddly squat, it's a freakin pre season match to give match practice END OF STORY.
Players will not go their hardest into a tackle simply because they don't want to miss the start of the season because of injury.
The pace of the game can dwindle for the same reasons, who wants to tear a hammy in a bloody practice match.
It's not much difference to an intra club game that doesn't go full tilt.
There's no points, there's no demoralising feeling through loss (oh ok maybe brissy now has that lol).
This will in NO WAY affect the way our season will go.
I love to see the Tigers win ANYTHING and EVERYTHING all the time, but if you get upset and read to much into a loss or a win in a match like this, then you need to go back, lock yourself in a room and have a big long think about reality.
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Didn't think we'd miss Mcguane this much.
All jokes aside A Edwards is not the answer. He misses the important goals and is far too easily beaten when matched up against taller defenders. Love to see rather Lloyd, McBean or Guff claim this spot
Agree on Edwards.Would rather get game time in someone younger as you mentioned.
The concern with Edwards is that he was only ever good a two things at North - marking and accuracy in front of goal. Hasn't even managed that at Richmond.
Still living off the Le Cras tackle and not being McGuane - who he's rapidly turning into anyway with every dropped sitter and missed soda.
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I'd rather play Griffiths than Edwards up forward. At least the former can kick goals from 60m out.
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I can't believe that more people aren't peed off with tonight's performance. Practice match or not, that effort stunk like a truckload of rotten fish.
Preseason game where one team turned up to play at full on 100% while the other (us) had a number of players mostly jog around in 2nd gear not giving a stuff about the result. It really was bruise free footy from our part. We played like 18 individuals at times - any loose ball or spoil and we didn't have a teammate backing-up to gain possession. It didn't help that we had too many talls. Az Edwards plays like a tall so effectively we were playing with a 4 tall forward line (hello no crumbers) and a 3 tall defence against a small and quick Melbourne forward line. We would never set-up like that in a real game.
Apparently we played with only 4 on the bench for the whole night in readiness for the real stuff while Melbourne played according the NAB rules of 6 interchange and 2 subs. Word is we are also in a heavy training phase. So that might explain the lethargy. We did the same last year or the year before from memory against the Dogs in a preseason game and looked slow as treacle in that game too.
That interchange infringement was also a momentum killer. Az Edwards was about to collect the ball on our forward 50 yet the umps took the infringement from where the kick out of the centre took place, then added the 50m, giving Melbourne a freebie shot and goal. It was effectively a 100m penalty. It's a joke of rule! Imagine losing a Grand Final due to crap like that that has nothing to do with what is going onfield.
I hate losing but I remember us with a team of cubs flogging the Cats at Yea by 10 goals in a preseason game. These games and results mean nothing. If we are playing like last night against both Collingwood and Essendon then I might start to worry but not yet.
Spot on MT, sums up my thoughts exactly. I knew it would be a Chicken Little free for all among the usual suspects on here after we lost but it is just not relevant to the season proper so expending any energy on doom and gloom after that is just a waste of breath. Interesting to hear about the training phase too - I said the exact same thing last night, looked like we were playing with lead in our soles and that is usually a dead giveaway of a team in a heavy training phase.
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Geez, it must just be mismanagement on the clubs behalf.... ::)
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This thread is pure trollolololol
Ignore them all WAT. They are all taking the pee. WGAF about a trial match. There's a long season ahead. We are the Tantric Tigers and Melbourne has already blown their load. ;D
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Seriously though contrast to Hawthorn is stark.
More so when you consider the finals loss should have been in our guts all summer.
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I love to see the Tigers win ANYTHING and EVERYTHING all the time,
What do you do when theirs an intra club? ;)
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I love to see the Tigers win ANYTHING and EVERYTHING all the time,
What do you do when theirs an intra club? ;)
Simple, WIN WIN dude :thumbsup :lol :thumbsup :cheers :gotigers
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The thing I cannot understand is after a huge preseason, how do you come out and give that effort. You have been busting your balls for months to get fitter and stronger and that's what they serve up. Surely there is more than half a side that needs to show the coach they can preform at that level. What a waste for most players on the cusp.
What it really showed me is those players we all have question marks over, have not improved. And more than likely never will.
Players like Griffiths, Astbury, Helbig, and even Aaron Edwards were IMO very disappointing! These guys have had a taste of AFL footy and know what is needed but still serve up what they did. IMO all four of these blokes will never be a part of anything good at Tigerland. They have all been on our list or another but struggle at every opportunity.
The other thing I think gets missed in all this is our membership drive, we are traveling so well with memberships but a lose like this doesn't do anything to help that. You put a side out there to take care of business and win by 50 odd and membership still keeps on tracking nicely. An effort like that just puts doubts in people's minds that were thinking on maybe buying a membership this year because maybe things have changed at Tigerland.
Win every game you play Tigers, like loosing becomes a habit, so does winning.
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Seriously though contrast to Hawthorn is stark.
More so when you consider the finals loss should have been in our guts all summer.
Old mate. Hawthorn got done in all their pre-season games last year, including losses to the dogs and the lions. Hawks went on to win the flag. Dogs and lions were bottom 4.
The hawks winning this year might just be a bad sign for them.
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Yeah I hear you and it's a fair point but I think the manner in which 2013 finished for us would have dictated more effort.
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Good to see Hardwick finally adjust our attacking gameplan last year - now long overdue for him to do likewise with our defensive gameplan. Has changed barely one iota in 4 years and teams will start to find it out just as North, Carlton & now Melbourne already have.
Can't continue just let us live and die by his precious be-all and end-all zone. One idea would be man up when sides are chipping it around and denying us possession. Hardly revolutionary, it should at least be every sides's default setting or safety catch - and it usually is, particularly when momentum swings against them. Hardwick however just sits on his hands seemingly content to place all his faith in the corral. That's great if this were a rodeo, but it's football and football teams are generally at least smarter than bovines and smart, patient sides just turn it into a game of forcings back. Quick sides just outrun us as the likes of Grigg, Houli & Newman stand and point until Morris gets caught out of position and Rance falls over or one of the aforementioned gives away a stupid free within range.
Also our tackling is still abysmal - is there a side in the AFL that has it's tackles broken or allows opponents to stand in the tackle and still get a disposal away as often as we do?
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For mine tackling reflects attitude and attitude reflects leadership.
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For mine tackling reflects attitude and attitude reflects leadership.
Yet some don't rate tackling...?????
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Didn't think we'd miss Mcguane this much.
All jokes aside A Edwards is not the answer. He misses the important goals and is far too easily beaten when matched up against taller defenders. Love to see rather Lloyd, McBean or Guff claim this spot
Agree on Edwards.Would rather get game time in someone younger as you mentioned.
Never missed when he was at Nought. :whistle
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Attitude.
Our pressure around the football and opposition was poor.
Didn't take our opportunities up forward.
Set shots in the second half needs to be addressed.
Lacking a quick, smart, skillful small forward.
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Epic thread.
By far the best troll of the off season :clapping
The regular fishing gif just doesnt do it justice
http://minidigger.net.au/publicfiles/fishing.gif
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The thing I cannot understand is after a huge preseason, how do you come out and give that effort. You have been busting your balls for months to get fitter and stronger and that's what they serve up. Surely there is more than half a side that needs to show the coach they can preform at that level. What a waste for most players on the cusp.
Exactly.
Its pointless not trying, and doesnt make sense that we would not try.
We were beaten by a better team on the day. End of story
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The thing I cannot understand is after a huge preseason, how do you come out and give that effort. You have been busting your balls for months to get fitter and stronger and that's what they serve up. Surely there is more than half a side that needs to show the coach they can preform at that level. What a waste for most players on the cusp.
Exactly.
Its pointless not trying, and doesnt make sense that we would not try.
We were beaten by a better team on the day. End of story
I think they tried. Just didn't try as much as they could.
Why should they? Nothing to be gained by over stretching and causing injury. There isn't even a cup at the end to win!
I think that the team will slowly ramp up their efforts so they are at 100% by round 1. That game is no easy win as the GC Suns will be absolutely desperate to win first up in front of their home crowd. It certainly is a must win game/8-12-16 point game!!!
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Can't believe there is a thread about a stuffen practice match and how we didn't risk injury. You're all kidding yourselves :banghead
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I couldn't be stuffed looking for the pic of the kid having a tantrum
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I watched the game.
Older blokes blowing out cobwebs.
Younger blokes getting a run in the legs.
Some cusp players having a go.
Coaching staff clearly trying some new ideas.
Hardly worth thinking about too much, let alone worrying about...
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Sack Dumma Softwick.
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lighten up lads, they were going at half heart pace. :rollin
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Can't believe there is a thread about a stuffen practice match and how we didn't risk injury. You're all kidding yourselves :banghead
Agree 100% 'THE WHO CARES CUP' if you watched closely, the older guys were letting the new blood get the pill and direct them.