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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Go Richo 12 on August 26, 2014, 11:20:27 AM
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One year apparently.
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*sigh*
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:chuck
I respect the bloke and his efforts but he is done.
Gutless move by the RFC.
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Newman extends contract
richmondfc.com.au
26 August 2014 11:11 AM
Richmond defender Chris Newman will extend his AFL career into a 15th season, after signing a one-year contract extension this week.
Newman is on the verge of his 250th AFL game this weekend, which would make him the 13th player in Tigers’ history to reach the milestone.
Earlier this season, the 32-year-old former captain flagged his intention to play on beyond 2014, and a recent run of eight straight games confirmed to he and the Club that he should continue his career.
“I feel like I still have something to offer my team-mates, the Club and the fans,” Newman said.
“I haven’t had too many injuries along the journey, so the body is feeling good. Being able to string together 16 games this season so far has given me confidence that I have some good footy left in me.
“More importantly, I still love the game, mentally I’m up for the challenge, and I want to be part of what Richmond is building towards.”
After being drafted with selection 55 in the 2000 National Draft, Newman made his debut in 2002 and quickly became one of the most damaging half back players in the game.
He was named captain of Richmond in 2009, a position he held for four years before passing the baton to Trent Cotchin in 2013.
His career to date boasts two top-three finishes in the Jack Dyer Medal, Australian representation in International Rules, and 17 Brownlow Medal votes.
“We are thrilled Chris has decided to play on for another season,” said Richmond’s General Manager of Football, Dan Richardson.
“A player of his standing at this football club, with his invaluable experience, will continue to be a great asset to the playing group in 2015.
“Chris has proven he still has the ability to play consistently well at the highest level, and his leadership on and off the field will continue to drive the Club forward.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-08-26/newman-extends-contract
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His career to date boasts two top-three finishes in the Jack Dyer Medal, Australian representation in International Rules, and 17 Brownlow Medal votes.
It's actually a fairly ordinary career when you look at it, don't mean that in a derogatory way, just that he is a 'good ordinary player'.
Not the type that the coin would normally fall in favour of in the play on/retire debate.
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Well this should liven the forum up... :lol :lol
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so whos going to suffer?
* up coming nation draft picks?
* Lennon?
* McDonuts?
* Dea ?
* Helbig ?
* Foley ?
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They've learnt nothing......
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They've learnt nothing......
Sack the coach!
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:chuck
I respect the bloke and his efforts but he is done.
Gutless move by the RFC.
Wouldn't say gutless as such
But certainly not a "tough" decision, when it is tough decisions that need to be made about the list
Easy things is to flick kids after 2, 3 or 4 years.
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agree.
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:chuck
I respect the bloke and his efforts but he is done.
Gutless move by the RFC.
Wouldn't say gutless as such
But certainly not a "tough" decision, when it is tough decisions that need to be made about the list
Easy things is to flick kids after 2, 3 or 4 years.
generally just before they about to come good
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Need to think about the future. This decision will not help the development of the younger players.
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Peggy Sue's speech gave me a glimmer of hope we were finally learning ....now this. Should've known.
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pretty pisspoor decision. Another season carrying this bloke bc he will definitely not be dropped - ever..
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I don't mind him on the list for another season but as long as he isn't keeping someone out of the side.
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lennon is already the sub instead of in the 21
mcdonuts was probable our best player in the twos again on the weekend or there abouts
our first draft pick could be a mid, he will miss out
with newman and grigg, thats almost two senior spots not available to a good kid next year
Maybe we can rookie king nd draft only one kid again
If there was less of a favourites selection policy it'd in fact be a good thing. (Playing ones when going well. Playing two a when not) But under the current pparadigm its a worry.
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Hopefully just there as depth/backup and mostly plays VFL. Bloke should have just retired after his 250th
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Oh stuff off Newy
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Fmd
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I don't mind him on the list for another season but as long as he isn't keeping someone out of the side.
Yep same here. No issue with him being on the list. But if he's a walk up start regardless of form it's an issue.
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In Chris we trust.. :thumbsup
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Is it bad that when other staff asked me what the fans thought of this I immediately thought of the negative reaction on this thread?
Social media is 90% positive, here's the other way around.
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Is it bad that when other staff asked me what the fans thought of this I immediately thought of the negative reaction on this thread?
Social media is 90% positive, here's the other way around.
Yes it is bad and I agree with you. Not good enough!!
I have had my bad years with S.Edwards but at the end of the day I always wanted him to succeed. I do think many players in our team cop too much from people on this forum. Players that dont deserve it.
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Social media would be your more 'less intense' fan base I dare stay.
Rather than those that had the misfortune of studying the list and coaching methods at a detailed level as the years roll by.
Good luck to Newman. Hopefully it doesn't mean a mcdonuts or Lennon is at footacray in 2016/going gang busters.
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Is it bad that when other staff asked me what the fans thought of this I immediately thought of the negative reaction on this thread?
Social media is 90% positive, here's the other way around.
90% positive?
You've got a short memory RFCO, might be 90% positive after 8 wins in a row, go back and have a look at Facebook after the Melbourne game, and if this had been announced then it would have been a firestorm.
I think it is refreshing that this site doesn't just cheerlead but takes a thoughtful look at what is happening, regardless of the moment.
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Is it bad that when other staff asked me what the fans thought of this I immediately thought of the negative reaction on this thread?
Social media is 90% positive, here's the other way around.
This place is 'Negative Central' RFC_Official. You will not get a positive reaction to anything regarding the club here at the moment. The most vocal posters now are those that want to sack the coach, get rid of players, blame the recruiters and 'death-ride' any success we have.
It's sad really but if you want proof just read through a few of the threads :help
I'm finding it harder and harder to join in any conversation because everyone just thinks I'm overly loyal and optimistic. Even if we win posters would rather discuss the early season losses.
Have you got any ideas how to address this RFC_Official other than just go to another board? Even the site moderator is one of the vocal critical posters :o :shh
Apologies Stripes, glitch with my computer at work somehow caused me while quoting your post to modify it (2nd time I've had this problem in a week) anyway have recovered it back to it's original form but says I have edited it. I haven't made any changes
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Is it bad that when other staff asked me what the fans thought of this I immediately thought of the negative reaction on this thread?
Social media is 90% positive, here's the other way around.
I'm not having a go at you RFC_official...but why does a team like Geelong get rid of a champion like Paul Chapman and Richmond seem to hang on to good ordinary players like Newman .
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When we were 3-10 was face book also negative fc?
Mate - Geelong are bold
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Is it bad that when other staff asked me what the fans thought of this I immediately thought of the negative reaction on this thread?
Social media is 90% positive, here's the other way around.
90% positive?
Ha, 90% positive of the Newman announcement only.
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Is it bad that when other staff asked me what the fans thought of this I immediately thought of the negative reaction on this thread?
Social media is 90% positive, here's the other way around.
This place is 'Negative Central' RFC_Official. You will not get a positive reaction to anything regarding the club here at the moment. The most vocal posters now are those that want to sack the coach, get rid of players, blame the recruiters and 'death-ride' any success we have.
It's sad really but if you want proof just read through a few of the threads :help
I'm finding it harder and harder to join in any conversation because everyone just thinks I'm overly loyal and optimistic. Even if we win posters would rather discuss the early season losses.
Have you got any ideas how to address this RFC_Official other than just go to another board? Even the site moderator is one of the vocal critical posters :o :shh
Really????? :huh
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Is it bad that when other staff asked me what the fans thought of this I immediately thought of the negative reaction on this thread?
Social media is 90% positive, here's the other way around.
I'm not having a go at you RFC_official...but why does a team like Geelong get rid of a champion like Paul Chapman and Richmond seem to hang on to good ordinary players like Newman .
You'd have to ask them I guess. Chappy/Pods seem to be going ok this year at their new clubs.
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Perhaps its time, like the club is working towards, we aim to change the culture of this forum. :thumbsup
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Is it bad that when other staff asked me what the fans thought of this I immediately thought of the negative reaction on this thread?
Social media is 90% positive, here's the other way around.
Punt road end isn't bubbling over with excitement either.
However, I actually agree with keeping him on the list, we need to keep some old heads.
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When we were 3-10 was face book also negative fc?
FB was Negative FC x 100.
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When we were 3-10 was face book also negative fc?
FB was Negative FC x 100.
I guess if Newy is happy to play VFL and teach the youngsters there it will work out. Guys like Chapman left because they were told they would not play the quota of senior games they were expecting. It also depends on the coin he has been happy to accept. So there are many things that we are not privy to with this re-signing.
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Geez Geez :huh
Anyone know want to speculate on the salary?
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When we were 3-10 was face book also negative fc?
FB was Negative FC x 100.
Free speech is a bitch huh
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Have you got any ideas how to address this RFC_Official other than just go to another board? Even the site moderator is one of the vocal critical posters :o :shh
Seeing there are only 2 moderators on this forum I will assume Stripes that last bit in bold is directed at me?
Yes I have been critical of the club this year, really first time I've extremely critical in a very long time and TBH I make no apologies for it. Club shouldn't be immune for criticism.
Personally, as I have said this club has gutted me in a way that I've never experienced before. Yes the wins have been fantastic but it doesn't and shouldn't hide what happened in the first half of the year. Sorry but I couldn't ignore it this time. This time it was different.
Even the President said the same thing over the weekend and I for one was absolutely rapted to hear (read) it. It was the best thing I've heard come out of the club all season. Helped me make up my mind about what I am doing re memberships for 2015.
BTW I reckon I've articulated my feelings pretty clearly, haven't just gone on about sacking coaches, axing players. Have wherever possible given reasons why. FWIW I haven't hidden behind my keyboard and have actually passed on my views to folks at the club
As for the Newman extension it's interesting was speaking to friends earlier about it and they don't do social media in any form and they said how surprised and disappointed they were with the extension. They reckoned that Newman shouldn't be going on.
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Well this should liven the forum up... :lol :lol
Sad that some people only get excitement when things go poorly at the club or they make mistakes. You'd think an 8 game winning streak would liven the forum up plenty
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Social media is 90% positive, here's the other way around.
That interesting Stig. Yes there's been positive comments on twitter (I'm not on FB). But some Tiger folks that I follow on twitter and more importantly have the utmost respect for said they didn't agree with it, wished Newy all the best but thought he shouldn't be going on.
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Perhaps its time, like the club is working towards, we aim to change the culture of this forum. :thumbsup
that won't happen, my friend, until the club culture changes.
And WAT.
Reality is, if the lose to Sydney on Saturday, that 8 game streak will again be too little, too late = 9TH
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Well this should liven the forum up... :lol :lol
Sad that some people only get excitement when things go poorly at the club or they make mistakes. You'd think an 8 game winning streak would liven the forum up plenty
It's pretty shallow & simplistic to conclude that those of us who criticise the club or exercise gallows humour somehow "enjoy" it's failure. Most of us have enjoyed the wins but just prefer to save true excitement to winning streaks of real substance that lead to and include finals and are actually backed up the following year for once. At the stage this current streak has yet to achieve that and is nothing greatly different to what's been seen before in previous false dawns and back halves of years we started poorly.
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Well this should liven the forum up... :lol :lol
Sad that some people only get excitement when things go poorly at the club or they make mistakes. You'd think an 8 game winning streak would liven the forum up plenty
Dullards invariably arrive at the simplistic conclusion that those of us who criticise the club "enjoy" it's failure. Some of us prefer to save our excitement to winning streaks of real substance that lead to and include finals and are backed up the following year. At this stage this current streak has yet to achieve that and is nothing greatly different to what's been seen before in previous false dawns.
Do you disagree that since we've been winning there has been less activity on the forum? Nothing wrong with criticism but it shouldn't be constant negative comments on players, coaches and the club that gives this forum life which sadly it is and we suddenly start winning it dies down. If it's so important to save your excitement (I once again ask what is the point of following football if you don't allow yourself to get excited) then shouldn't you also save your criticism as well? What makes it okay to bang on about the losses well after they are done and dusted but not even get up and about over a good winning streak?
P.S How many times did you edit this post?
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Perhaps its time, like the club is working towards, we aim to change the culture of this forum. :thumbsup
As long as a culture of positivity is implemented at the club and here. Thats the main thing right?
That way missing finals/finishing 9th/10th/losing nearly always becomes positive. Right?
If theres one thing that needs changing mate its a few finals victories and a premiership for once in a god damn lifetime.
Forget the fans reaction to PR your missing the point.
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Critique and analysis are bedfellows, and even the clubs training, recruiting, list management, gameplan and playing standards should not be immune from review internally & externally.
How is improvement demanded if there are so many back slappers satisfied with mediocrity ?
Just can't see how Newman's current performance standard is satisfactory when this needs to improve next year to make & win finals whilst building towards a premiership.
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If Chris plays like he did on the weekend
Have no issue then giving him 1 more year
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lol at this.
it makes me wonder at just how many we will turn over.
my money is on close to the bare minimum requirement of 3 or 4 from the list proper and one or two rookies with thomas and miles being promoted to the list proper.
Its scary to think that they will only use 3 nd picks.
im not sure about the club. but i would say most thinking supporters all agree we have a middling list and there is much building still required.
we all know they will only cut UNCONTRACTED PLAYERS. So whos in the gun, which 4 or 5 are the most likely to go.
uncontracted players are.
Arnot, Astbury,Batchelor,Dea, A Edwards, Elton, Griffiths, Helbig, Knights, Mcbean, Mcdonough, Mcintosh, O'Hanlon, Petterd.
Going by what has transpired this yr and attempting to judge what their thinking may be from their actions and words id say the following are safe.
Astbury - im not sure if he hasnt already been signed.
Batchelor - they talk him up,
Elton - i think his age size and position will see him safe. not many clubs cut junior kpps after such a short time on lists.
Griffiths - has probably done just enough to be kept.
Mcbean - see elton
Mcdonough - another junior will be given time.
Mcintosh - junior whos had lots of injury they will give him every opportunity when fit.
Petterd - hes a hardwick favorite in fairness has probably done enough to be retained in front of many others.
so it leaves imo 6 players in the gun
Arnot, Dea, A Edwards, Helbig, knights, OHanlon, with king already retired.
if we do promote both miles and thomas, well miles has already signed a contract. and we use 4 nd picks, gotta use 4 at least imo, after taking just one junior player last yr any way heres hoping its a minimum of 4. but the club in its delusion probably wont see it this way.
5 of Arnot, Dea, A Edwards, Helbig, Knights, and O'Hanlon imo are most in the gun.
to take it to its theoretical conclusion those going would be
Arnot, A Edwards, Helbig, Knights, Ohanlon. with King already retired thus allowing for 4 nd picks and two rookie promotions in Miles and Thomas.
Critique and analysis are bedfellows, and even the clubs training, recruiting, list management, gameplan and playing standards should not be immune from review internally & externally.
How is improvement demanded if there are so many back slappers satisfied with mediocrity ?
Just can't see how Newman's current performance standard is satisfactory when this needs to improve next year to make & win finals whilst building towards a premiership.
here here well said. wasting your time voicing around here though.
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Knights still has another year I believe
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Well this should liven the forum up... :lol :lol
Sad that some people only get excitement when things go poorly at the club or they make mistakes. You'd think an 8 game winning streak would liven the forum up plenty
Dullards invariably arrive at the simplistic conclusion that those of us who criticise the club "enjoy" it's failure. Some of us prefer to save our excitement to winning streaks of real substance that lead to and include finals and are backed up the following year. At this stage this current streak has yet to achieve that and is nothing greatly different to what's been seen before in previous false dawns.
Do you disagree that since we've been winning there has been less activity on the forum? Nothing wrong with criticism but it shouldn't be constant negative comments on players, coaches and the club that gives this forum life which sadly it is and we suddenly start winning it dies down. If it's so important to save your excitement (I once again ask what is the point of following football if you don't allow yourself to get excited) then shouldn't you also save your criticism as well? What makes it okay to bang on about the losses well after they are done and dusted but not even get up and about over a good winning streak?
P.S How many times did you edit this post?
Because improvement's something that should always be strived for - for three decades we've drifted between mediocrity and utter shyte and have teased with late seson charges that've amounted to nothing - why carry on like we just won back to back flags when it happens again? Does is really stuffing matter what "level" of enjoyment some of us get out of each win and whether some of us prefer to look at the bigger picture? Again it's simplistic to think there's only one way to follow & support a football club.
I edited before your reply was posted.
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Also yes there's been less activity since the winning streak but pretty sure it has more to do with the fact we were 3-10 at the start of it and that it wasn't a terribly exciting streak or looking like we might sneak into the finals until we we're about 5 or 6 wins into it.
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Knights still has another year I believe
dont believe that is correct. was falling out of contract end of this yr . havent heard or seen a thing about him resigning.
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I don't mind him on the list for another season but as long as he isn't keeping someone out of the side.
Yep same here. No issue with him being on the list. But if he's a walk up start regardless of form it's an issue.
It will be an issue bc you guys should know that Newman will never ever get dropped for form
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Well guys, the foundation stone of mediocrity has been laid for 2015.
Its more of the same from here. Well probably not give a contract to mcbean and Griffiths next year. Theyll slide to Footscray or Carlton. At least we can keep playing Newman and Grigg. We'll worry about building the club when the possibility of a winning streak is over.
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Knights still has another year I believe
dont believe that is correct. was falling out of contract end of this yr . havent heard or seen a thing about him resigning.
He has applied for the disability pension is the rumour.....
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Also yes there's been less activity since the winning streak but pretty sure it has more to do with the fact we were 3-10 at the start of it and that it wasn't a terribly exciting streak or looking like we might sneak into the finals until we we're about 5 or 6 wins into it.
a few of us have stuck to our guns thru the winning streak as well.
as you say ive seen it all before and in all honesty despite a few wins i dont see any real improvement on last yr in fact even with most of the wins id say we have been worse.
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Also yes there's been less activity since the winning streak but pretty sure it has more to do with the fact we were 3-10 at the start of it and that it wasn't a terribly exciting streak or looking like we might sneak into the finals until we we're about 5 or 6 wins into it.
a few of us have stuck to our guns thru the winning streak as well.
as you say ive seen it all before and in all honesty despite a few wins i dont see any real improvement on last yr in fact even with most of the wins id say we have been worse.
I disagree. We have shown much more resolve in our victories this year. The Essendon and Adelaide games in particular would have been games we would have lost last year IMHO. Sure our football was more exciting overall last year but they were flakier too. A fit Maric this year and the addition of Miles makes us a better side.
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Knights still has another year I believe
dont believe that is correct. was falling out of contract end of this yr . havent heard or seen a thing about him resigning.
Had a 3 year contract
2013, 2014 and therefore 2015
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Also yes there's been less activity since the winning streak but pretty sure it has more to do with the fact we were 3-10 at the start of it and that it wasn't a terribly exciting streak or looking like we might sneak into the finals until we we're about 5 or 6 wins into it.
a few of us have stuck to our guns thru the winning streak as well.
as you say ive seen it all before and in all honesty despite a few wins i dont see any real improvement on last yr in fact even with most of the wins id say we have been worse.
I disagree. We have shown much more resolve in our victories this year. The Essendon and Adelaide games in particular would have been games we would have lost last year IMHO. Sure our football was more exciting overall last year but they were flakier too. A fit Maric this year and the addition of Miles makes us a better side.
well we do disagree then.the same sort of problems we had last yr are still there imho. lack of depth lack of quality and poor list structure have not gone away.
also imo most players have stagnated gone backwards or in some cases shown minimal improvement..
we have found just one player in miles and ivans yr to date has not been overly different to last yr. in fact we have failed to find a decent chop out for him.
we have failed to beat a top 4 side beaten only p/a and ess who are in the 8 and when we played p/a they were in the middle of a slump. finally there is still way too much left up to way too few.
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Also yes there's been less activity since the winning streak but pretty sure it has more to do with the fact we were 3-10 at the start of it and that it wasn't a terribly exciting streak or looking like we might sneak into the finals until we we're about 5 or 6 wins into it.
a few of us have stuck to our guns thru the winning streak as well.
as you say ive seen it all before and in all honesty despite a few wins i dont see any real improvement on last yr in fact even with most of the wins id say we have been worse.
I disagree. We have shown much more resolve in our victories this year. The Essendon and Adelaide games in particular would have been games we would have lost last year IMHO. Sure our football was more exciting overall last year but they were flakier too. A fit Maric this year and the addition of Miles makes us a better side.
well we do disagree then.the same sort of problems we had last yr are still there imho. lack of depth lack of quality and poor list structure have not gone away.
also imo most players have stagnated gone backwards or in some cases shown minimal improvement..
we have found just one player in miles and ivans yr to date has not been overly different to last yr. in fact we have failed to find a decent chop out for him.
we have failed to beat a top 4 side beaten only p/a and ess who are in the 8 and when we played p/a they were in the middle of a slump. finally there is still way too much left up to way too few.
I didn't say we were a top 4 side mate. I only said we have improved in our ability to win close matches against reasonable opposition. The players haven't dropped their heads for 8 weeks. This was happening intermittently last year all year. We still have a long way to go to be a regular finals side but I can see a steely resolve in the group which wasn't there last year.
Each to their own I suppose!
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Knights still has another year I believe
dont believe that is correct. was falling out of contract end of this yr . havent heard or seen a thing about him resigning.
Had a 3 year contract
2013, 2014 and therefore 2015
disagree again jack. may be wrong but was reasonably sure he only signed on to a 2 yr contract. if he is contracted just narrows the list of 6 down to 5.
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Also yes there's been less activity since the winning streak but pretty sure it has more to do with the fact we were 3-10 at the start of it and that it wasn't a terribly exciting streak or looking like we might sneak into the finals until we we're about 5 or 6 wins into it.
That's my point really, start winning and people suddenly don't care as much. We can still win and people can still come in and pick apart what wasn't up to the standard and also what worked, what they'd like to change etc. and hopefully mix in some positives. But some posters just don't even show themselves (you and a few others do continually post :thumbsup). I think I didn't make it clear that yes it's fine to critique the club and demand high standards but it should go both ways.
It doesn't really matter, but you edited it again ;)
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He said at a 3121 pre match on Sunday he came over on a 3 year contract
I nearly fell over when I heard that
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He said at a 3121 pre match on Sunday he came over on a 3 year contract
I nearly fell over when I heard that
Wasn't in the 3121 was over in the Ponsford for Inner Sanctum and heard the same thing. Though I remember we signed him as a FA reports were we gave him 3 years
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Also yes there's been less activity since the winning streak but pretty sure it has more to do with the fact we were 3-10 at the start of it and that it wasn't a terribly exciting streak or looking like we might sneak into the finals until we we're about 5 or 6 wins into it.
a few of us have stuck to our guns thru the winning streak as well.
as you say ive seen it all before and in all honesty despite a few wins i dont see any real improvement on last yr in fact even with most of the wins id say we have been worse.
I disagree. We have shown much more resolve in our victories this year. The Essendon and Adelaide games in particular would have been games we would have lost last year IMHO. Sure our football was more exciting overall last year but they were flakier too. A fit Maric this year and the addition of Miles makes us a better side.
well we do disagree then.the same sort of problems we had last yr are still there imho. lack of depth lack of quality and poor list structure have not gone away.
also imo most players have stagnated gone backwards or in some cases shown minimal improvement..
we have found just one player in miles and ivans yr to date has not been overly different to last yr. in fact we have failed to find a decent chop out for him.
we have failed to beat a top 4 side beaten only p/a and ess who are in the 8 and when we played p/a they were in the middle of a slump. finally there is still way too much left up to way too few.
I didn't say we were a top 4 side mate. I only said we have improved in our ability to win close matches against reasonable opposition. The players haven't dropped their heads for 8 weeks. This was happening intermittently last year all year. We still have a long way to go to be a regular finals side but I can see a steely resolve in the group which wasn't there last year.
Each to their own I suppose!
i didnt imply you did. i mentioned top 4 because we managed to beat top 4 sides last yr.failed to do so this yr. reckon we won just as many close ones last yr as we did this yr.
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Also yes there's been less activity since the winning streak but pretty sure it has more to do with the fact we were 3-10 at the start of it and that it wasn't a terribly exciting streak or looking like we might sneak into the finals until we we're about 5 or 6 wins into it.
a few of us have stuck to our guns thru the winning streak as well.
as you say ive seen it all before and in all honesty despite a few wins i dont see any real improvement on last yr in fact even with most of the wins id say we have been worse.
I disagree. We have shown much more resolve in our victories this year. The Essendon and Adelaide games in particular would have been games we would have lost last year IMHO. Sure our football was more exciting overall last year but they were flakier too. A fit Maric this year and the addition of Miles makes us a better side.
well we do disagree then.the same sort of problems we had last yr are still there imho. lack of depth lack of quality and poor list structure have not gone away.
also imo most players have stagnated gone backwards or in some cases shown minimal improvement..
we have found just one player in miles and ivans yr to date has not been overly different to last yr. in fact we have failed to find a decent chop out for him.
we have failed to beat a top 4 side beaten only p/a and ess who are in the 8 and when we played p/a they were in the middle of a slump. finally there is still way too much left up to way too few.
I didn't say we were a top 4 side mate. I only said we have improved in our ability to win close matches against reasonable opposition. The players haven't dropped their heads for 8 weeks. This was happening intermittently last year all year. We still have a long way to go to be a regular finals side but I can see a steely resolve in the group which wasn't there last year.
Each to their own I suppose!
i didnt imply you did. i mentioned top 4 because we managed to beat top 4 sides last yr.failed to do so this yr. reckon we won just as many close ones last yr as we did this yr.
i really feel our Hawthorn victories were a little hollow in the last couple of years. Sure they looked great but Hawthorn didn't come to play in either game. We are kidding ourselves if we think we were better than Hawthorn last year. That's why I don't rate that win as significant.
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Newy's press conference today ...
VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-08-26/newman-press-conference-august-26th
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Fitness, feel-good factor convince Tigers veteran Chris Newman to play on
Liam Mannix
The Age
August 26, 2014 - 6:09PM
Fitness and the feel-good factor are behind Richmond veteran Chris Newman's decision to play on in 2015.
Newman and his club confirmed on Tuesday the former captain had signed a one-year contract extension. He will play game number 250 this weekend in the club's must-win match against Sydney.
Newman, 32, has played 16 games this year after tearing a calf.
It was his recovery from that injury, coupled with the Tigers' late-season form surge, that convinced a wavering Newman to play on.
"It didn't really sit comfortably with me to walk away now," Newman said on Tuesday. "It just feels like we've got too much unfinished business.
"It was probably a different mindset when I tore my calf. I was probably at my lowest point there, and I thought that realistically I wouldn't go around again, but things have changed.
"I needed to be confident that my body could hold up, and I'm really confident that it will. I'm feeling pretty good."
Newman said he felt "blessed" to play 250 games for the Tigers, but said the milestone meant nothing for the upcoming match.
"You can't really play emotional football," he said. "If anything, it might have some bearing at the start of the game, but certainly I think when you run out there it becomes very process-driven.
"I don't think we'll be drawing on any of that, we'll just be worrying about what we can control."
If Richmond can beat the Swans - a massive task at ANZ Stadium - it can realise an unlikely goal of making finals from a 3-10 start to the season.
Richmond is on an eight-game winning streak, but momentum may count for nothing when confronted by Sydney's twin towers Lance Franklin and Kurt Tippett. Ominously, Sydney was the club the Tigers last lost to, by 11 points in round 14.
Newman said he was always confident the club's form would turn around.
"The win-loss record wasn't paying justice to how close we were. We lost a lot of those games we possibly could have won and it could have been a different story. I always had confidence in what we were doing, the process that we had, and that's really holding up now."
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He said at a 3121 pre match on Sunday he came over on a 3 year contract
I nearly fell over when I heard that
Wasn't in the 3121 was over in the Ponsford for Inner Sanctum and heard the same thing. Though I remember we signed him as a FA reports were we gave him 3 years
He came over to the 3121 pre match with Matt Thomas as well
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He said at a 3121 pre match on Sunday he came over on a 3 year contract
I nearly fell over when I heard that
Wasn't in the 3121 was over in the Ponsford for Inner Sanctum and heard the same thing. Though I remember we signed him as a FA reports were we gave him 3 years
He came over to the 3121 pre match with Matt Thomas as well
Yep we had them both at IS pre-match and then Jake King at half time
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And Knights did say he had another year on his contract at Inner Sanctum. I heard it too.