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Three Crows headline the 2015 crop of free agents
Nick Bowen
afl.com.au
October 18, 2014
NEXT year's big-name free agents won't need to tell their managers to show me the money.
Prospective 2015 free agents such as Patrick Dangerfield, Tom Hawkins and Trent Cotchin can rest assured they will be shown the money without any such fight. By their own clubs. And by rival clubs in even larger amounts.
.... in free agency's three-year existence, no club has kept a restricted free agent by matching a rival offer.
Adelaide is not the only club in free agency's crosshairs next year.
The club-by-club list below contains a small selection of the players who can field free agency offers next year.
The managers of players such as Hawkins, Cotchin, Robbie Gray, Alex Rance, Scott Selwood and Jack Steven will be swamped with offers.
But history tells us some of these players won't be on the AFL's official free agency list when it's released early next year.
When AFL.com.au released its preliminary list of 2014's free agents in December last year, it contained 70 players..... with just five of those players joining new clubs in the recent free agency period.
THE PICK OF THE 2015 CROP OF FREE AGENTS
ADELAIDE
Patrick Dangerfield
Richard Douglas
Taylor Walker
BRISBANE
Jed Adcock
Matthew Leuenberger
CARLTON
Matthew Kreuzer
COLLINGWOOD
Brent Macaffer
ESSENDON
Brent Stanton
Tom Bellchambers
FREMANTLE
Michael Johnson
Paul Duffield
GEELONG
Tom Hawkins
Andrew Mackie
Mathew Stokes
HAWTHORN
Matthew Suckling
MELBOURNE
Colin Garland
Nathan Jones
NORTH MELBOURNE
Andrew Swallow
Robbie Tarrant
PORT ADELAIDE
Robbie Gray
Matthew Lobbe
RICHMOND
Trent Cotchin
Alex Rance
ST KILDA
Sam Gilbert
Jack Steven
WEST COAST
Scott Selwood
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-18/the-next-crop-of-free-agents
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Herald-Sun's top 10 targets in next year's trade/FA period:
1. Jeremy Cameron (GWS) - out of contract
2. Patrick Dangerfield (Adel) - free agent
3. Adam Treloar (GWS) - out of contract
4. Rory Sloane (Adel) - out of contract
5. Dylan Shiel (GWS) - out of contract
6. Jack Steven (St K) - out of contract
7. Adam Tomlinson (GWS) - out of contract
8. Scott Selwood (WCE) - free agent
9. Devon Smith (GWS) - out of contract
10. James Aish (Bris) - out of contract
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5. Dylan Shiel (GWS)
Midfielder
Age: 21 Games: 50
Contracted until end of 2015
Would you want to play at the club where your (possible) future father in law coaches? Shiel’s partner is the daughter of Richmond coach Mark Williams and it is understood Williams has been talking Shiel up a as a future superstar for years. Richmond made a public pitch for Shiel two years ago and will go hard again next year. The Tigers had a big war chest of cash this year but kept it up their sleeve with something in mind next season. Tigers’ fans will salivate at the prospect of Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Reece Conca, Anthony Miles and Shiel all in the midfield.
http://www.news.com.au/national/patrick-dangerfield-jeremy-cameron-head-top-10-afl-trade-targets-for-2015/story-e6frfkp9-1227094020472
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Need to sew up Cotchin and Rance, we don't need that pressure while we are trying to get Shiel.
But watch us stuff it up.
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Need to sew up Cotchin and Rance, we don't need that pressure while we are trying to get Shiel.
But watch us stuff it up.
First point makes sense, then you go and make a twirp of yourself :huh
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ELE
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Need to sew up Cotchin and Rance, we don't need that pressure while we are trying to get Shiel.
But watch us stuff it up.
Sewing up Cotchin and Rance are the least of our worries.
With absolutely no improvement in our list this year bottom place is becoming!
Watch all our stars walk out as we begin a full rebuild Bulldogs style ;)
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Need to sew up Cotchin and Rance, we don't need that pressure while we are trying to get Shiel.
But watch us stuff it up.
First point makes sense, then you go and make a twirp of yourself :huh
Did you not see the message from WP yesterday????????
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Don't dob him in WAT it would be unAustralian
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Need to sew up Cotchin and Rance, we don't need that pressure while we are trying to get Shiel.
But watch us stuff it up.
First point makes sense, then you go and make a twirp of yourself :huh
Did you not see the message from WP yesterday????????
Seems as though you were the only one to get that message :whistle
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Don't dob him in WAT it would be unAustralian
Just like belittling your countryman!!!!
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:banghead :banghead
Stop with the petty and childish insults and stick to the topic
It is pretty clear that you are all quite capable of debating the topics without throwing in the insults.
Suggest you all do that
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2015
Cotchin, rance
2016
Hampson. Chaplin
:gotigers
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Everyone has to be optimistic maybe?
ELE
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Ah the edit.
I think some of what WAT posts makes sense, it would be good to stitch up Rance, Martin and Cotchin first before turning our attention to out of contract or free agency.
Seems obvious I know but I'd like to understand WATs basis for saying we will stuff it up? Not sure we've lost too many players of any note over the years.
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we have not had many players of note
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Would prefer Sloane
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Ah the edit.
I think some of what WAT posts makes sense, it would be good to stitch up Rance, Martin and Cotchin first before turning our attention to out of contract or free agency.
Seems obvious I know but I'd like to understand WATs basis for saying we will stuff it up? Not sure we've lost too many players of any note over the years.
matty white, schulz for farmer, ottens for meyer and patterson as a start.
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As much as I hate to say it, having a 'war chest' for 2014, not using it and holding off for 2015, then having a putrid year which sees the coach sacked and a new coach coming in who rebuilds and has no use for a free agent would be very Richmond.
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Ah the edit.
I think some of what WAT posts makes sense, it would be good to stitch up Rance, Martin and Cotchin first before turning our attention to out of contract or free agency.
Seems obvious I know but I'd like to understand WATs basis for saying we will stuff it up? Not sure we've lost too many players of any note over the years.
matty white, schulz for farmer, ottens for meyer and patterson as a start.
That and keeping players like Batch, Grigg, Dae, Edwards (sorry but two good years does not suffice), Newman (great club man but should of retired), and Morris. Additionally, we keep these players and we don't even look at or try to get players that have moved around during the trade and FA period. It just bewilders me that the club can rest on the players I have mentioned thinking they are the answer...?? Its just very frustrating watching this year after year.. :-\
I think we should of pursued Greenwood more, so what if hes played 50 games, those 50 games were better than the games the above players have played. We just seem content to hang on to players that make monumental game turning mistakes every week. If its not one making the mistakes its the other...
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Would prefer Sloane
x 2
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I think we should of pursued Greenwood more, so what if hes played 50 games, those 50 games were better than the games the above players have played. We just seem content to hang on to players that make monumental game turning mistakes every week. If its not one making the mistakes its the other...
Any chance you could name some of those game turning mistakes made in the last eleven weeks of the H&A season
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I think we should of pursued Greenwood more, so what if hes played 50 games, those 50 games were better than the games the above players have played. We just seem content to hang on to players that make monumental game turning mistakes every week. If its not one making the mistakes its the other...
Any chance you could name some of those game turning mistakes made in the last eleven weeks of the H&A season
11 weeks, is that what you want to talk about, how about you talk about their impact or lack of over the years. In the past 11 weeks of the season though those players did not shine, or star at any level, go watch the replays.
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Ah the edit.
I think some of what WAT posts makes sense, it would be good to stitch up Rance, Martin and Cotchin first before turning our attention to out of contract or free agency.
Seems obvious I know but I'd like to understand WATs basis for saying we will stuff it up? Not sure we've lost too many players of any note over the years.
matty white, schulz for farmer, ottens for meyer and patterson as a start.
With the exception of Ottens which was 10 years ago, how can you compare those other players to our best few players?
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I think we should of pursued Greenwood more, so what if hes played 50 games, those 50 games were better than the games the above players have played. We just seem content to hang on to players that make monumental game turning mistakes every week. If its not one making the mistakes its the other...
Any chance you could name some of those game turning mistakes made in the last eleven weeks of the H&A season
11 weeks, is that what you want to talk about, how about you talk about their impact or lack of over the years. In the past 11 weeks of the season though those players did not shine, or star at any level, go watch the replays.
I will take that as a no then
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As much as I hate to say it, having a 'war chest' for 2014, not using it and holding off for 2015, then having a putrid year which sees the coach sacked and a new coach coming in who rebuilds and has no use for a free agent would be very Richmond.
what odds on the above richo?
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Herald-Sun's top 10 targets in next year's trade/FA period:
1. Jeremy Cameron (GWS) - out of contract
2. Patrick Dangerfield (Adel) - free agent
3. Adam Treloar (GWS) - out of contract
4. Rory Sloane (Adel) - out of contract
5. Dylan Shiel (GWS) - out of contract
6. Jack Steven (St K) - out of contract
7. Adam Tomlinson (GWS) - out of contract
8. Scott Selwood (WCE) - free agent
9. Devon Smith (GWS) - out of contract
10. James Aish (Bris) - out of contract
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5. Dylan Shiel (GWS)
Midfielder
Age: 21 Games: 50
Contracted until end of 2015
Would you want to play at the club where your (possible) future father in law coaches? Shiel’s partner is the daughter of Richmond coach Mark Williams and it is understood Williams has been talking Shiel up a as a future superstar for years. Richmond made a public pitch for Shiel two years ago and will go hard again next year. The Tigers had a big war chest of cash this year but kept it up their sleeve with something in mind next season. Tigers’ fans will salivate at the prospect of Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Reece Conca, Anthony Miles and Shiel all in the midfield.
http://www.news.com.au/national/patrick-dangerfield-jeremy-cameron-head-top-10-afl-trade-targets-for-2015/story-e6frfkp9-1227094020472
of that list id like us to go at selwood/danger as a f/a's costs nothing.it then allows you to target uncontracted players where you invariably have to pay. tomlinson/cameron for gods sake we need talls.
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Herald-Sun's top 10 targets in next year's trade/FA period:
1. Jeremy Cameron (GWS) - out of contract
2. Patrick Dangerfield (Adel) - free agent
3. Adam Treloar (GWS) - out of contract
4. Rory Sloane (Adel) - out of contract
5. Dylan Shiel (GWS) - out of contract
6. Jack Steven (St K) - out of contract
7. Adam Tomlinson (GWS) - out of contract
8. Scott Selwood (WCE) - free agent
9. Devon Smith (GWS) - out of contract
10. James Aish (Bris) - out of contract
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5. Dylan Shiel (GWS)
Midfielder
Age: 21 Games: 50
Contracted until end of 2015
Would you want to play at the club where your (possible) future father in law coaches? Shiel’s partner is the daughter of Richmond coach Mark Williams and it is understood Williams has been talking Shiel up a as a future superstar for years. Richmond made a public pitch for Shiel two years ago and will go hard again next year. The Tigers had a big war chest of cash this year but kept it up their sleeve with something in mind next season. Tigers’ fans will salivate at the prospect of Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Reece Conca, Anthony Miles and Shiel all in the midfield.
http://www.news.com.au/national/patrick-dangerfield-jeremy-cameron-head-top-10-afl-trade-targets-for-2015/story-e6frfkp9-1227094020472
of that list id like us to go at selwood/danger as a f/a's costs nothing.it then allows you to target uncontracted players where you invariably have to pay. tomlinson/cameron for gods sake we need talls.
cost plenty, don't worry about that. we can't afford them :shh
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Need to sew up Cotchin and Rance, we don't need that pressure while we are trying to get Shiel.
But watch us stuff it up.
Sewing up Cotchin and Rance are the least of our worries.
With absolutely no improvement in our list this year bottom place is becoming!
Watch all our stars walk out as we begin a full rebuild Bulldogs style ;)
LoL , the draft hasn't even happened yet, nine list changes if Im right :wallywink ...and our retention rate is not in bulldogs league sunshine :shh
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As much as I hate to say it, having a 'war chest' for 2014, not using it and holding off for 2015, then having a putrid year which sees the coach sacked and a new coach coming in who rebuilds and has no use for a free agent would be very Richmond.
what odds on the above richo?
I'm an optimist so I'd say about 1.20 on.
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Would prefer Sloane
x 2
Not happening...
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As much as I hate to say it, having a 'war chest' for 2014, not using it and holding off for 2015, then having a putrid year which sees the coach sacked and a new coach coming in who rebuilds and has no use for a free agent would be very Richmond.
what odds on the above richo?
I'm an optimist so I'd say about 1.20 on.
I'd take a bit of that action
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That and keeping players like Edwards (sorry but two good years does not suffice)
I think we should of pursued Greenwood more
Woah, what? You want to get rid of a player because he's had "only two good years" but want someone who has only had one good year?
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That and keeping players like Edwards (sorry but two good years does not suffice)
I think we should of pursued Greenwood more
Woah, what? You want to get rid of a player because he's had "only two good years" but want someone who has only had one good year?
hahahahahahahah, seriously he has no idea !!
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That and keeping players like Edwards (sorry but two good years does not suffice)
I think we should of pursued Greenwood more
Woah, what? You want to get rid of a player because he's had "only two good years" but want someone who has only had one good year?
Out of nine years compared to Greenwood, yes I would. Perhaps that's how much of an idea TT4 has?
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That and keeping players like Edwards (sorry but two good years does not suffice)
I think we should of pursued Greenwood more
Woah, what? You want to get rid of a player because he's had "only two good years" but want someone who has only had one good year?
Out of nine years compared to Greenwood, yes I would. Perhaps that's how much of an idea TT4 has?
So 1 out of 7 years (greenwood) is superior to 2 out of 9 years (Edwards)?
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That and keeping players like Edwards (sorry but two good years does not suffice)
I think we should of pursued Greenwood more
Woah, what? You want to get rid of a player because he's had "only two good years" but want someone who has only had one good year?
Out of nine years compared to Greenwood, yes I would. Perhaps that's how much of an idea TT4 has?
So 1 out of 7 years (greenwood) is superior to 2 out of 9 years (Edwards)?
Yeh Dooks but you forgot Shed plays for RFC
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There really is a lot of poot posted in the off season isn't there?
I don't like it and I have a right to say it.
Anyways, ELE peoples.
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That and keeping players like Edwards (sorry but two good years does not suffice)
I think we should of pursued Greenwood more
Woah, what? You want to get rid of a player because he's had "only two good years" but want someone who has only had one good year?
Out of nine years compared to Greenwood, yes I would. Perhaps that's how much of an idea TT4 has?
So 1 out of 7 years (greenwood) is superior to 2 out of 9 years (Edwards)?
He was drafted one year after shed so 1 out of 8 compared to 2 out of 9. At best they are equals :lol
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That and keeping players like Edwards (sorry but two good years does not suffice)
I think we should of pursued Greenwood more
Woah, what? You want to get rid of a player because he's had "only two good years" but want someone who has only had one good year?
hehe I wanted greenwood - thought he was the exact type of player we need but that is strange logic.
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Maybe there's a qualitative side to the argument?
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What Greenwood did last year wa better than Edwards has ever done.
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Na
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That and keeping players like Edwards (sorry but two good years does not suffice)
I think we should of pursued Greenwood more
Woah, what? You want to get rid of a player because he's had "only two good years" but want someone who has only had one good year?
hehe I wanted greenwood - thought he was the exact type of player we need but that is strange logic.
I would have loved to have taken Greenwood to but absolutely not for the the price he went for.
Collingwood payed waaaay overs for him, will be interesting to see if he lives up to the hype.
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Bit harsh on Edwards WAT.
In the past he has been a tease but this year he played good consistent footy and his good footy is better than most.
No way you would give him away before seeing if he can produce that again next year.
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What Greenwood did last year wa better than Edwards has ever done.
Really, it was that good that NM for much of the season were only prepared to offer him a 12 nth deal, they begrudgingly offered a 3 year term. That however was to only appease the supporters they were more than happy to move him on .....don't kid yourself , Edwards plays him on a break :shh
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What Greenwood did last year wa better than Edwards has ever done.
So one year does suffice?
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What Greenwood did last year wa better than Edwards has ever done.
So one year does suffice?
Well it does for you lot regarding Edwards!!!!
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What Greenwood did last year wa better than Edwards has ever done.
So one year does suffice?
Well it does for you lot regarding Edwards!!!!
But Edwards has had a couple of good years!
You even said so yourself :huh
That and keeping players like Edwards (sorry but two good years does not suffice)
I think we should of pursued Greenwood more
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What Greenwood did last year wa better than Edwards has ever done.
So one year does suffice?
Well it does for you lot regarding Edwards!!!!
But Edwards has had a couple of good years!
You even said so yourself :huh
That and keeping players like Edwards (sorry but two good years does not suffice)
I think we should of pursued Greenwood more
FFS, are some of you completely stuffing brain dead???? Greenwoods one year was better than Edwards two years IMO, do you stuffing get that????
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What Greenwood did last year wa better than Edwards has ever done.
So one year does suffice?
Well it does for you lot regarding Edwards!!!!
But Edwards has had a couple of good years!
You even said so yourself :huh
That and keeping players like Edwards (sorry but two good years does not suffice)
I think we should of pursued Greenwood more
FFS, are some of you completely stuffing brain dead???? Greenwoods one year was better than Edwards two years IMO, do you stuffing get that????
No I disagree, Edwards two years have been solid that trumps Greenwoods one year in my opinoin.
And no I'm not brain dead, it's just confusing trying to follow your posts when your trying to say that some of us are satisfied with Edwards one good year when he's really had two good years. If you just got your facts right in the first place there wouldn't be this confusion and you wouldn't have to revert to name calling.
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:facepalm
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FFS, are some of you completely stuffing brain dead???? Greenwoods one year was better than Edwards two years IMO, do you stuffing get that????
Not sure how one year suffices though? 1 out of 8 just isn't good enough
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Shane Edwards is a jet. Top three in contested possession, clearances etc. At tigerland :shh
Greenwood is a fatty. Slow as a wet week, forgot to learn to kick.
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imo edwards is yet to put together a complete season. he continues to have some very ordinary games every yr. how soon we forget the start of the yr.
what does it say about our clearance winners when a bloke whos played just a handful of games can come off the rookie list and totally dominate clearances and c/ps.
the laughs just keep on coming . it hilarious to hear you nuffies talking edwards up as a jet :o :o . the over rating goes on in earnest.
its sad really quick to put the boots into opposition players, its not game day fellas you can take the blinkers of and have an unbiased discussion, , but no all opposition players are duds and you remain oblivious to our players weaknesses and defend em to the hilt.
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imo edwards is yet to put together a complete season. he continues to have some very ordinary games every yr. how soon we forget the start of the yr.
what does it say about our clearance winners when a bloke whos played just a handful of games can come off the rookie list and totally dominate clearances and c/ps.
the laughs just keep on coming . it hilarious to hear you nuffies talking edwards up as a jet :o :o . the over rating goes on in earnest.
its sad really quick to put the boots into opposition players, its not game day fellas you can take the blinkers of and have an unbiased discussion, , but no all opposition players are duds and you remain oblivious to our players weaknesses and defend em to the hilt.
agreed. Edwards had a very good back half but thats what he should deliver on a regular basis to achieve this "jet status" that these blokes claim he is.
Good half last year and good half i think in 2011 or 2012 as well so all in all, 2 good half seasons of football in his whole career of 150 games.
lets compare that to garlett who no one wanted for pick 123.
100 games for jeffrey, 50 fewer than our jet, 183 goals 82 more than our jet
less disposals though but that generally happens when you play 50 fewer games.
Was worth a shot garlett was, but the RFC thought its best to give thomas a 2 year extension and newman another year.
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imo edwards is yet to put together a complete season. he continues to have some very ordinary games every yr. how soon we forget the start of the yr.
what does it say about our clearance winners when a bloke whos played just a handful of games can come off the rookie list and totally dominate clearances and c/ps.
the laughs just keep on coming . it hilarious to hear you nuffies talking edwards up as a jet :o :o . the over rating goes on in earnest.
its sad really quick to put the boots into opposition players, its not game day fellas you can take the blinkers of and have an unbiased discussion, , but no all opposition players are duds and you remain oblivious to our players weaknesses and defend em to the hilt.
So career to date you believe Greenwood has been better performed? You yourself bang on about actual performance and history would suggest Edwards has had a better career to date.
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imo edwards is yet to put together a complete season. he continues to have some very ordinary games every yr. how soon we forget the start of the yr.
what does it say about our clearance winners when a bloke whos played just a handful of games can come off the rookie list and totally dominate clearances and c/ps.
the laughs just keep on coming . it hilarious to hear you nuffies talking edwards up as a jet :o :o . the over rating goes on in earnest.
its sad really quick to put the boots into opposition players, its not game day fellas you can take the blinkers of and have an unbiased discussion, , but no all opposition players are duds and you remain oblivious to our players weaknesses and defend em to the hilt.
agreed. Edwards had a very good back half but thats what he should deliver on a regular basis to achieve this "jet status" that these blokes claim he is.
Good half last year and good half i think in 2011 or 2012 as well so all in all, 2 good half seasons of football in his whole career of 150 games.
lets compare that to garlett who no one wanted for pick 123.
100 games for jeffrey, 50 fewer than our jet, 183 goals 82 more than our jet
less disposals though but that generally happens when you play 50 fewer games.
Was worth a shot garlett was, but the RFC thought its best to give thomas a 2 year extension and newman another year.
Thomas two years?? Get some facts before you post ;)
Secondly you can't compare Edwards to Garlett seriously, they play completely different positions :huh
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imo edwards is yet to put together a complete season. he continues to have some very ordinary games every yr. how soon we forget the start of the yr.
what does it say about our clearance winners when a bloke whos played just a handful of games can come off the rookie list and totally dominate clearances and c/ps.
the laughs just keep on coming . it hilarious to hear you nuffies talking edwards up as a jet :o :o . the over rating goes on in earnest.
its sad really quick to put the boots into opposition players, its not game day fellas you can take the blinkers of and have an unbiased discussion, , but no all opposition players are duds and you remain oblivious to our players weaknesses and defend em to the hilt.
agreed. Edwards had a very good back half but thats what he should deliver on a regular basis to achieve this "jet status" that these blokes claim he is.
Good half last year and good half i think in 2011 or 2012 as well so all in all, 2 good half seasons of football in his whole career of 150 games.
lets compare that to garlett who no one wanted for pick 123.
100 games for jeffrey, 50 fewer than our jet, 183 goals 82 more than our jet
less disposals though but that generally happens when you play 50 fewer games.
Was worth a shot garlett was, but the RFC thought its best to give thomas a 2 year extension and newman another year.
Thomas two years?? Get some facts before you post ;)
Secondly you can't compare Edwards to Garlett seriously, they play completely different positions :huh
Garlett goals count
Edwards contested possession, clearances, magic handballs do not
Try and keep up please
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imo edwards is yet to put together a complete season. he continues to have some very ordinary games every yr. how soon we forget the start of the yr.
what does it say about our clearance winners when a bloke whos played just a handful of games can come off the rookie list and totally dominate clearances and c/ps.
the laughs just keep on coming . it hilarious to hear you nuffies talking edwards up as a jet :o :o . the over rating goes on in earnest.
its sad really quick to put the boots into opposition players, its not game day fellas you can take the blinkers of and have an unbiased discussion, , but no all opposition players are duds and you remain oblivious to our players weaknesses and defend em to the hilt.
agreed. Edwards had a very good back half but thats what he should deliver on a regular basis to achieve this "jet status" that these blokes claim he is.
Good half last year and good half i think in 2011 or 2012 as well so all in all, 2 good half seasons of football in his whole career of 150 games.
lets compare that to garlett who no one wanted for pick 123.
100 games for jeffrey, 50 fewer than our jet, 183 goals 82 more than our jet
less disposals though but that generally happens when you play 50 fewer games.
Was worth a shot garlett was, but the RFC thought its best to give thomas a 2 year extension and newman another year.
Thomas two years?? Get some facts before you post ;)
Secondly you can't compare Edwards to Garlett seriously, they play completely different positions :huh
Just posting what I heard on Sen from connolly and Hutchy
2 years and they spoke about it at length how re-signing him was a mistake
I can compare any player I choose to and most of his 150 average games were played in the same position
Edwards has not put a full season together. When he does come back to me
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imo edwards is yet to put together a complete season. he continues to have some very ordinary games every yr. how soon we forget the start of the yr.
what does it say about our clearance winners when a bloke whos played just a handful of games can come off the rookie list and totally dominate clearances and c/ps.
the laughs just keep on coming . it hilarious to hear you nuffies talking edwards up as a jet :o :o . the over rating goes on in earnest.
its sad really quick to put the boots into opposition players, its not game day fellas you can take the blinkers of and have an unbiased discussion, , but no all opposition players are duds and you remain oblivious to our players weaknesses and defend em to the hilt.
agreed. Edwards had a very good back half but thats what he should deliver on a regular basis to achieve this "jet status" that these blokes claim he is.
Good half last year and good half i think in 2011 or 2012 as well so all in all, 2 good half seasons of football in his whole career of 150 games.
lets compare that to garlett who no one wanted for pick 123.
100 games for jeffrey, 50 fewer than our jet, 183 goals 82 more than our jet
less disposals though but that generally happens when you play 50 fewer games.
Was worth a shot garlett was, but the RFC thought its best to give thomas a 2 year extension and newman another year.
Thomas two years?? Get some facts before you post ;)
Secondly you can't compare Edwards to Garlett seriously, they play completely different positions :huh
Just posting what I heard on Sen from connolly and Hutchy
2 years and they spoke about it at length how re-signing him was a mistake
I can compare any player I choose to and most of his 150 average games were played in the same position
Edwards has not put a full season together. When he does come back to me
Thomas signed on for one more year as a Rookie again ;)
http://m.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-10-15/tigers-lock-in-six
If your going to compare players at least compare apples with apples.
Garlett V Edwards is a poo comparison.
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Loui is correct Thomas only got another year as a rookie
As for Hutchy he is in New York, up on current events isn't his forte at the minute ;D
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Like I said just said what I heard on Saturday arvo on sen. Connelly and Schwartz(not Hutchy My error)
If it was wrong so be it. I personally wouldn't give Thomas 1 week let alone 1 year. Waste of a rookie spot which should be designed to developing a kid like premiership clubs do.
Instead of telling me I'm wrong luigi which you seem to do a lot of with everyone, tell me what position Edwards has played most of his games in
Answer is forward. Where does garlett play-forward. Garlett would have been a perfect fit for the club which could have helped Edwards rotate more in the midfield. Away from Robinson Garlett will do fine and has runs on the board
Only this year he was moved to the middle, maybe year before also for parts.
If you cant see that maybe you need to start going to a few games pal. He was there to play a small forward role but that changed this year and he did very well in the LAST dozen games
First were average just like his other years. Another fact. No one had an issue with his back end and if they did they are idiots, it's that level which he has never put together for the majority of a year.
Even the RFC said as much re: his first 13 games
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I think you'll find thought his career he's played a more high half forward rotating through the midfield roll. He's never played a sole game locked in the forward line.
How often does Garlett rotate through the middle? Answer is never! Why, because he's a small crumbing forward who doesn't have the tank to Greg anywhere near the midfield!
Also I've never disagreed that Edwards started slowly this year, so did two thirds of the team but in saying that at least he played a full year, o'l mate Jeffy couldn't even get a game in a side that ended up below us on the ladder :lol If he has all this hidden talent he certainly does a good job of hiding it ;)
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imo edwards is yet to put together a complete season. he continues to have some very ordinary games every yr. how soon we forget the start of the yr.
what does it say about our clearance winners when a bloke whos played just a handful of games can come off the rookie list and totally dominate clearances and c/ps.
the laughs just keep on coming . it hilarious to hear you nuffies talking edwards up as a jet :o :o . the over rating goes on in earnest.
its sad really quick to put the boots into opposition players, its not game day fellas you can take the blinkers of and have an unbiased discussion, , but no all opposition players are duds and you remain oblivious to our players weaknesses and defend em to the hilt.
2014 AFL League Clearances Per Game Leaders (Minimum 5 Games Played)
Rk Player Team Gm Stat
1 G. Ablett Suns 15 7.9
2 T. Liberatore Bulldogs 22 7.1
3 A. Swallow Kangaroos 18 7.0
4 N. Fyfe Dockers 20 6.7
5 M. Priddis Eagles 22 6.7
6 A. Miles Tigers 13 6.6
7 C. Ward Giants 20 6.5
8 J. Kennedy Swans 23 6.4
9 T. Rockliff Lions 18 6.4
10 J. Selwood Cats 24 6.4
what does it say about afl players, clearance winners when a bloke whos played just a handful of games can come off the rookie list and totally be sixth in the game
Whoops
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http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/adelaide-crows-stars-patrick-dangerfield-and-rory-sloanes-future-still-to-be-decided/story-fnia3xzy-1227128358114?nk=b567e629d91cdc3e3571999ba1baf07b
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2015's FREE AGENTS:
RICHMOND
Nathan Foley
Chris Newman
Alex Rance
ADELAIDE
Patrick Dangerfield
Richard Douglas
Andy Otten
Brent Reilly
Scott Thompson
Brodie Martin
BRISBANE
Jed Adcock
Matthew Leuenberger
CARLTON
Dennis Armfield
Andrew Carrazzo
David Ellard
Matthew Kreuzer
Chris Judd
COLLINGWOOD
Brent Macaffer
ESSENDON
Courtenay Dempsey
Brent Stanton
Tom Bellchambers
Dustin Fletcher
Tayte Pears
Jason Winderlich
FREMANTLE
Ryan Crowley
Paul Duffield
Michael Johnson
Luke McPharlin
Matthew Pavlich
Aaron Sandilands
GEELONG
Jimmy Bartel
Corey Enright
Tom Hawkins
James Kelly
Steve Johnson
Andrew Mackie
Mathew Stokes
HAWTHORN
Luke Hodge
Sam Mitchell
Matthew Suckling
Brendan Whitecross
MELBOURNE
Colin Garland
Mark Jamar
Nathan Jones
NORTH MELBOURNE
Michael Firrito
Nathan Grima
Brent Harvey
Scott McMahon
Drew Petrie
Andrew Swallow
Robbie Tarrant
PORT ADELAIDE
Kane Cornes
Tom Logan (rookie)
ST KILDA
Sean Dempster
Sam Fisher
Sam Gilbert
Jack Steven
Adam Schneider (rookie)
SYDNEY SWANS
Adam Goodes
Heath Grundy
Ted Richards
WEST COAST
Sam Butler
Patrick McGinnity
Scott Selwood
Beau Waters
WESTERN BULLDOGS
Matthew Boyd
Jarrad Grant
Dale Morris
Robert Murphy
Easton Wood
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-17/north-faces-free-hit
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I'd have a serious crack at the following, left out a couple like N.Jones who realistically wont be moving clubs
Dangerfield
Bellchambers
Leuenberger
Kruezer
Pears
Garland
Stokes
Steven
Selwood
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So when we say we are loading up for a free agency run this year, we really mean we want Dangerfield or just an average player.
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I would also seriously look at Steve Johnson. Having him buzzing about in our forward line for a couple of years would be very handy to say the least.
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I would also seriously look at Steve Johnson. Having him buzzing about in our forward line for a couple of years would be very handy to say the least.
+1 for this. His bag of tricks near goal and the fact he can be rotated through the middle would make great mentorship even if he doesn't play all 22 games
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Hodge for playing coach of his boyhood club.
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So when we say we are loading up for a free agency run this year, we really mean we want Dangerfield or just an average player.
Good call.
Rance is arguably the 2nd most attractive target on that list!
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So when we say we are loading up for a free agency run this year, we really mean we want Dangerfield or just an average player.
Good call.
Rance is arguably the 2nd most attractive target on that list!
Him or swallow behind dangerfield
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Updated: Nick Bowen's 2015 free agency list
Nick Bowen
afl.com.au
February 18, 2015
ADELAIDE
Patrick Dangerfield
Richard Douglas
Andy Otten
Brent Reilly
Scott Thompson
Brodie Martin
BRISBANE LIONS
Jed Adcock
Matthew Leuenberger
CARLTON
Dennis Armfield
Andrew Carrazzo
David Ellard
Matthew Kreuzer
Chris Judd
COLLINGWOOD
Brent Macaffer
ESSENDON
Courtenay Dempsey
Brent Stanton
Tom Bellchambers
Dustin Fletcher
Tayte Pears
Jason Winderlich
FREMANTLE
Ryan Crowley
Paul Duffield
Michael Johnson
Luke McPharlin
Matthew Pavlich
Aaron Sandilands
GEELONG
Jimmy Bartel
Corey Enright
Tom Hawkins
James Kelly
Steve Johnson
Andrew Mackie
Dawson Simpson
Mathew Stokes
HAWTHORN
Luke Hodge
Sam Mitchell
Matthew Suckling
Brendan Whitecross
MELBOURNE
Colin Garland
Mark Jamar
NORTH MELBOURNE
Michael Firrito
Nathan Grima
Brent Harvey
Scott McMahon
Drew Petrie
Robbie Tarrant
PORT ADELAIDE
Kane Cornes
Tom Logan (rookie)
RICHMOND
Nathan Foley
Chris Newman
Alex Rance
ST KILDA
Sean Dempster
Sam Fisher
Sam Gilbert
Jack Steven
Adam Schneider (rookie)
SYDNEY SWANS
Adam Goodes
Heath Grundy
Ted Richards
WEST COAST
Sam Butler
Patrick McGinnity
Scott Selwood
Beau Waters
WESTERN BULLDOGS
Matthew Boyd
Jarrad Grant
Dale Morris
Robert Murphy
Easton Wood
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-18/updated-2015-free-agency-list
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Scott Selwood. :pray
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Lose Rance, gain Luke Hodge would be a good result.
Lose Rance gain Jason Winderlich on a 5 year $7 million dollar contract is more likely from Dan the Man.
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Leuenberger pls
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Jack Steven anyone?
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Lose Rance, gain Luke Hodge would be a good result.
Lose Rance gain Jason Winderlich on a 5 year $7 million dollar contract is more likely from Dan the Man.
Yes and that's our problem. We will more than likely forget Danger and go for 3, 30+ year olds.
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I hear #bomber2016 is bringing Stephen Wells with him.
May as well forget free agency and rebuild via the draft.
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Hawkins and Dangerfield for elite star power.
Would consider Douglas and Martin from Adelaide too. Need midfield depth.
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Jack Steven anyone?
He's a smokey…..
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I would settle for Steven and Kreuzer. I reckon we could get Kreuzer's body right unlike the filth, who's injury list always resembles the Waffen SS post 1945.
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I would settle for Steven and Kreuzer. I reckon we could get Kreuzer's body right unlike the filth, who's injury list always resembles the Waffen SS post 1945.
Their injury list resembles the remnants of a bunch of foreign mercenaries who went underground and had absolutely zero effect on anything?
K.
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Leuenberger pls
FFS finally, we agree on something :banghead
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Leuenberger pls
FFS finally, we agree on something :banghead
Don't have a lot of confidence in this bloke's body holding up. He's played 28 games in the last three seasons. 20 in 2013, otherwise injury-ravaged seasons either side. Is that worth the risk?
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Update:
Restricted Free Agents
Patrick Dangerfield (Adelaide)
Matthew Leuenberger (Brisbane)
Matthew Kreuzer (Carlton)
Chris Judd (Carlton)
Tom Bellchambers (Essendon)
Tom Hawkins (Geelong)
Colin Garland (Melbourne)
Sean Dempster (St Kilda)
Sam Gilbert (St Kilda)
Jack Steven (St Kilda)
Scott Selwood (West Coast)
Unrestricted Free Agents
Richard Douglas, Brodie Martin, Andy Otten, Brent Reilly, Scott Thompson (Adelaide Crows);
Jed Adcock (Brisbane Lions);
Dennis Armfield, Andrew Carazzo, David Ellard (Carlton);
Brent Macaffer (Collingwood);
Courtenay Dempsey, Dustin Fletcher, Tayte Pears, Brent Stanton, Jason Winderlich (Essendon);
Ryan Crowley, Paul Duffield, Michael Johnson, Luke McPharlin, Matthew Pavlich, Aaron Sandilands (Fremantle);
Jimmy Bartel, Corey Enright, Steve Johnson, James Kelly, Andrew Mackie, Dawson Simpson, Matthew Stokes (Geelong Cats);
Luke Hodge, Matthew Suckling, Brendan Whitecross (Hawthorn);
Mark Jamar (Melbourne);
Michael Firrito, Nathan Grima, Brent Harvey, Scott McMahon, Drew Petrie, Robbie Tarrant (North Melbourne);
Kane Cornes, Tom Logan (Port Adelaide);
Nathan Foley, Chris Newman, Alex Rance (Richmond);
Sam Fisher, Adam Schneider (St Kilda);
Adam Goodes, Heath Grundy, Ted Richards (Sydney Swans);
Sam Butler, Patrick McGinnity, Beau Waters (retired) (West Coast);
Matthew Boyd, Jarrad Grant, Dale Morris, Robert Murphy, Easton Wood (Western Bulldogs).
http://www.sen.com.au/news/hardwick-confident-on-retaining-rance
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Jack Steven and Scott Selwood from that list, unfortunately Whitecross and Suckling have wrecked knees otherwise they would have been good targets as well.
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A few good ruckmen on that list.
:thumbsup
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Have heard we are all over Kruezer.
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Jack Steven and Scott Selwood from that list, unfortunately Whitecross and Suckling have wrecked knees otherwise they would have been good targets as well.
:thumbsup
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Have heard we are all over Kruezer.
if over his injuries would be a good get to take over from ivan..
makes sense...best mates with cotchy
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Jock steven is off the table
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Jock steven is off the table
That's disappointing.
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Have heard we are all over Kruezer.
if over his injuries would be a good get to take over from ivan..
makes sense...best mates with cotchy
Won't come cheap for someone who has had bad injuries. :help
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The club is most likely licking there lips at the prospect of securing Crowley....
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The Zanotti Files has Chris Naish saying there is no reason the Tigers can't get Dangerfield.
I wonder where this quote has come from?
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Target Scott Selwood, need his style of play at RFC. Make him captain if we get him.
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no one who wants to be successful will come to Richmond next year. why would they?
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Money talks.
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Money talks.
Which is why the AFL put a gag on it in the form of a salary cap.
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We Want You!
Are you tired of high expectations?
Are you over the relentless pursuit of premiership success?
Does the word "tough" make you cringe?
Do you consider great skill to be overrated?
Are you annoyed at people laughing at you because you've never heard the word "shepherd" before?
Wouldn't you love to get overpaid?
Don't you think you deserve a contract extension even though you've underperformed?
Would you like to be appreciated & mothered?
Isn't it time you looked after yourself?
Do you think you should be rewarded for just being you?
If you answered "YES" to any or all of these questions, we at the Richmond Football Club want you!
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no one who wants to be successful will come to Richmond next year. why would they?
freeeeeeeee agency that$$$$$$$$$$ why :shh
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We Want You!
Are you tired of high expectations?
Are you over the relentless pursuit of premiership success?
Does the word "tough" make you cringe?
Do you consider great skill to be overrated?
Are you annoyed at people laughing at you because you've never heard the word "shepherd" before?
Wouldn't you love to get overpaid?
Don't you think you deserve a contract extension even though you've underperformed?
Would you like to be appreciated & mothered?
Isn't it time you looked after yourself?
Do you think you should be rewarded for just being you?
If you answered "YES" to any or all of these questions, we at the Richmond Football Club want you!
Join some of the leagues greats who have come from other clubs like Ben Marsh, simon Fletcher, Billy Nicholls, Trent Knobel, Kent Kingsley as well as other household names like, Adam Thompson, Mitch Farmer, Tom Hislop and the one who lived his childhood dream and kicked the winning goal after the siren Jordan McMahon. That could be you and if you're as lucky as Jordan the year after you live your childhood dream you might be the only player on the senior list who won't get a game but still get paid what you signed on from your plump contract.
So why play for a Hawthorn, Geelong, or Collingwood here in Melbourne and have to start your holidays in October when the weather in the Northern Hemisphere starts getting brisk and have to fight for a spot in a finals line up. Head to Richmond where every day is Groundhog Day.
The coach says the same plops.
The players do the same.
Selection is based on your contract $$$.
Press conferences are based on KPI's and not the scoreboard because at Richmond every day is Groundhog Day where it doesn't matter how you played, or whether you got your bum slapped by our skipper running through he banner meaning you are now a bona fide staple in r side regardless of performance and life will always be good regardless of whether you won or lost.
What also matters is that more members have signed up which means $$$ for us and and our backslapping, bumslapping, chest protruding, smooth talking, head scratching, bum scratching, hand clapping, crap mongering Corporate and Board members who only seem to make any knowledge of their whereabouts when it comes to the annual AGM and re-election.
So come and join the fun. Enter the place where malaise and failure is the norm and success is the abnormal and unconventional. Once you're here you'll wonder how made do without the RFC because we take something good and turn into something that has lost all levels of accomplishment.
If you come this season we'll even give you a signed poster of Alex Rance before he left for Freo but still in his Richmond gear or a poster of Trent Cotchin from Dreamtime 2012 when he could goal from a set shot as he did that night to put us in front to remind you that if you ever get like that that's as far as you'll go here as superstars, leaders and game changers for the good are not welcome here.
If you want to be a renegade like that join Hodgie and those misfits at Hawthorn. At Richmond we do things the Richmond way.
It's no way the highway, and remember its your responsibility to be irresponsible. None of this second or third effort crap. I only want to see second and third guessing, leaving things for someone else, making things difficult for your teammate whether by hand or foot and making sure if you want the footy you have to earn it so as to make our KPI's look good. At Richmond we don't believe in the scoreboard and we only use to check how long the quarter is going and how long it is till we can get back into our civvies and go home.
If Punt Rd is for you come on down. It's like winning Tattslotto every week, every year. $$$$$$ :yep
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Well Gary ablett went to Gold Coast, or was that for the sunshine ::) aghhh got him :lol
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Anyone want Sarge back? He's likely to be pushed out of Port Adelaide due to their tight salary cap.
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As if he will leave Port
Who else will kick their goals. He won't go anywhere
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Who is Sarge?
Schulz?
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Straight swap for Hampson
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Since the news sides have come into the comp, several of their young star mids have come home to Vic to play their footy. Below is a list, which I think the RFC has been linked to before going elsewhere.
Josh Caddy- Geelong
Dom Tyson- Melbourne
Jonathan O'Rourke- Hawthorn
Taylor Adams- Collingwood
This year with a few more most likely wanting to return home we need to make sure we are the lucky club. Most likely we will be around the middle of the ladder again so our first pick will be around the 10 to 15 mark, so giving that up for someone like Dylan Shiel, with maybe another later pick of fringe player would be a steel. The fact that he is linked to someone at our club should help surely!!
Imagine getting him for pick 10 and Astbury.
Add him to Dangerfield for free as a free agent and we are a top 4 side.
And lately swap Conca and Griff to WCE for Darling and we are done.
One can only dream......
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Quick fixes. Pipe dreams.
We still wouldn't have the depth to win a flag even if that scenario played out
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Quick fixes. Pipe dreams.
We still wouldn't have the depth to win a flag even if that scenario played out
You have to start somewhere....
You put Dangerfield, Shiel and Darling into our side and there is 3 blokes getting a game now that are not then, creating more depth straight away. Do the same sort of thing the year after and guess what?
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Could we get Fyfe and Roughy in there as well
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Quick fixes. Pipe dreams.
We still wouldn't have the depth to win a flag even if that scenario played out
You have to start somewhere....
You put Dangerfield, Shiel and Darling into our side and there is 3 blokes getting a game now that are not then, creating more depth straight away. Do the same sort of thing the year after and guess what?
It won't happen for 1 year let alone 2 or 3. We are poison that's why we tend to land only your hampsons and Morris's.
More of the same coming. Perhaps we might land one quality player over the next few years but, that's it.
Need to draft well and build depth from underneath.
We are poison.
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Don't recall us ever been linked to josh caddy or o rourke , dodged a couple of bullets there :shh
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As if he will leave Port
Who else will kick their goals. He won't go anywhere
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-21/power-star-jay-schulz-in-contract-limbo-amid-salary-cap-squeeze
Who is Sarge?
Schulz?
Yep.
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Shiel for Pick 10 + Astbury lol.
Darling for Conca and Griffiths also lol.
Will take more than fringe players and pick 10 to entice clubs to trade the cream of their crop.
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Shulz has 2 years left at most
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Shiel for Pick 10 + Astbury lol.
Will take more than fringe players and pick 10 to entice clubs to trade the cream of their crop.
Not if Shiel says I'm leaving and I want to go to Richmond. If that happens is another story though
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Money talks. We could definitely get Shiel if we go hard for him
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The lure of more money & a longer contract for a cushy non threatening, no responsibly, pat-on-the-back, cruisie job at punt road might tantalize the right player....look at Hamspud reaping the rewards.
If life's too demanding at another success driven club why would you continue there when you can get more reward for little effort at Richmond FC, the AFL competition's Salvation Army club, the foster home for players on there second or third chance. :clapping
:gotigers
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Don't recall us ever been linked to josh caddy or o rourke , dodged a couple of bullets there :shh
You don't rate Caddy?
Silly question for 99% of people but I'll be interested to hear what you say.
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Don't recall us ever been linked to josh caddy or o rourke , dodged a couple of bullets there :shh
You don't rate Caddy?
Silly question for 99% of people but I'll be interested to hear what you say.
Great question big tone, I'd taken Caddy in a heartbeat, exactly what we needed. And we didn't even bother trying
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Agree. Caddy would be perfect for us.
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I don't rate Caddy all that much