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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Phil Mrakov on April 24, 2015, 09:51:59 PM
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His time is up. He won't take us any further
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Agree he is done and dusted. Its over.
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Get out of our club. Gave us nothing in 5 years. Absolute waste
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Yes he can.
He can take us further away from a flag.
18 th in fact.
Ps- has he done ANYTHING tonight?
Get Bomber.
stuff this idiot
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This was the case 18 months ago
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You lot are unbelievable. Worst supporters. As soon as things look bad you all just turn in an instant. Hardwick has done great things for our club. I agree, I dont think he can win us a flag but he has made huge improvements from the Terry Wallace days.
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The problem is he loses against the same coaches year in year out with no improvement or changes. Its just over. He did a good job of getting us of the bottom but he is a middle ranking coach only. Will never coach anyone to a flag.
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Yes he can.
He can take us further away from a flag.
18 th in fact.
Ps- has he done ANYTHING tonight?
Get Bomber.
stuff this idiot
Agree
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Now we will suffer even longer cos Peggy and Benny don't make knee jerk reactions
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Damien Hardwick should do the right thing and resign from his position. If he stays on he will only be hurting his future chances of getting another job.
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The problem is he loses against the same coaches year in year out with no improvement or changes. Its just over. He did a good job of getting us of the bottom but he is a middle ranking coach only. Will never coach anyone to a flag.
That's not true. He has beaten roos when he coached the swans. Same with Lyon when he coached both saints and Dockers. Has coached a win over longmire.
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I feel like I'm living the same year over and over again
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I feel like I'm living the same year over and over again
we are its just the calendar that has a different number :snidegrin
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The problem is he loses against the same coaches year in year out with no improvement or changes. Its just over. He did a good job of getting us of the bottom but he is a middle ranking coach only. Will never coach anyone to a flag.
That's not true. He has beaten roos when he coached the swans. Same with Lyon when he coached both saints and Dockers. Has coached a win over longmire.
how many wins and losses against each. how many wins and losses overall against all teams. without looking I reckon he is well under a 50% win rate.
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been no good for years
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Take ur money and stuff off, idiot
You're worse than frawley.
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Look at those Melbourne supporters. Can't believe their stuffing luck
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Take ur money and stuff off, idiot
You're worse than frawley.
See what happens if we make the finals give him a 3 year contract.
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He can't beat a team that didn't exust last year.
What a stuffen loser idiot dog rat
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Give Mark Thompson a 4 year deal
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Give Mark Thompson a 4 year deal
The same bloke who who said he would never coach us?
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Give Mark Thompson a 4 year deal
The same bloke who who said he would never coach us?
He'll coach us now. We have a half decent list but nobody to steer the ship
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Give Mark Thompson a 4 year deal
The same bloke who who said he would never coach us?
He'll coach us now. We have a half decent list but nobody to steer the ship
I am not a sack the coach proponent, but I do like the idea of Bomber as coach. It just won't happen though.
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Give Mark Thompson a 4 year deal
The same bloke who who said he would never coach us?
He'll coach us now. We have a decent list but nobody to steer the ship
we don't have a decent list. we have no leaders, we lack speed, we don't go hard enough at the contest, our players always want the easy option. you cant build a winning team with players that don't have the required characteristics for success. they are just an average group of players on big dollars who take the pizz out of everyone. Its a nice easy lifestyle.
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Has absolutely no Idea Hardwick... No ide
No sympathy
Picks mates and makes incorrect decisions at selection table week in and week out. Picks Morris who is nothing but human courage. Picks Arnot who we delisted 6 months ago over Lennon who has dominated the VFL.
Get out
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Give Mark Thompson a 4 year deal
The same bloke who who said he would never coach us?
He'll coach us now. We have a decent list but nobody to steer the ship
we don't have a decent list. we have no leaders, we lack speed, we don't go hard enough at the contest, our players always want the easy option. you cant build a winning team with players that don't have the required characteristics for success. they are just an average group of players on big dollars who take the pizz out of everyone. Its a nice easy lifestyle.
I could see Bomber getting this list into the top 4 in his first year :shh
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Give Mark Thompson a 4 year deal
The same bloke who who said he would never coach us?
He'll coach us now. We have a decent list but nobody to steer the ship
we don't have a decent list. we have no leaders, we lack speed, we don't go hard enough at the contest, our players always want the easy option. you cant build a winning team with players that don't have the required characteristics for success. they are just an average group of players on big dollars who take the pizz out of everyone. Its a nice easy lifestyle.
I could see Bomber getting this list into the top 4 in his first year :shh
the list is pretty good
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Give Mark Thompson a 4 year deal
The same bloke who who said he would never coach us?
He'll coach us now. We have a decent list but nobody to steer the ship
we don't have a decent list. we have no leaders, we lack speed, we don't go hard enough at the contest, our players always want the easy option. you cant build a winning team with players that don't have the required characteristics for success. they are just an average group of players on big dollars who take the pizz out of everyone. Its a nice easy lifestyle.
I could see Bomber getting this list into the top 4 in his first year :shh
the list is pretty good for an VFL side
Edited for accuracy
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Still some supporters on the DH bandwagon I see...
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Chuck is his wife
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Give Mark Thompson a 4 year deal
The same bloke who who said he would never coach us?
He'll coach us now. We have a decent list but nobody to steer the ship
we don't have a decent list. we have no leaders, we lack speed, we don't go hard enough at the contest, our players always want the easy option. you cant build a winning team with players that don't have the required characteristics for success. they are just an average group of players on big dollars who take the pizz out of everyone. Its a nice easy lifestyle.
And that is it in a nutshell.
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Give Mark Thompson a 4 year deal
The same bloke who who said he would never coach us?
He'll coach us now. We have a decent list but nobody to steer the ship
we don't have a decent list. we have no leaders, we lack speed, we don't go hard enough at the contest, our players always want the easy option. you cant build a winning team with players that don't have the required characteristics for success. they are just an average group of players on big dollars who take the pizz out of everyone. Its a nice easy lifestyle.
Has been that way for 20 years.
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Still some supporters on the DH bandwagon I Bomber e...
Its not about being on his bandwagon. Its just that the reason why we got Hardwick is because no-one else wanted us. Its easy to point to Hinckley but he was passed over by a few clubs too and at that time, Hardwick was clearly a better candidate. Perhaps not so much now.
We also think it is just a click of the finger and bomber will come to our door. He won't, if we sack Hardwick and approach bomber, it will reinforce why he refused us coach us to begin with.
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Still some supporters on the DH bandwagon I Bomber e...
Its not about being on his bandwagon. Its just that the reason why we got Hardwick is because no-one else wanted us. Its easy to point to Hinckley but he was passed over by a few clubs too and at that time, Hardwick was clearly a better candidate. Perhaps not so much now.
We also think it is just a click of the finger and bomber will come to our door. He won't, if we sack Hardwick and approach bomber, it will reinforce why he refused us coach us to begin with.
GR12 is right I reckon but it doesn't take away from the fact that Hardwick is done and dusted.
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as per the thread title, its now about if Hardwick can take us any further.
I am seeing nothing, nothing at all to suggest he can.
His time is up.
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We are stuck with him. Plain and simple.
Throw the cheque book and our FTF dollars at Roos.
As illogical as some may see it. We need to do it.
Has to be a coup type scenario.
Something un Richmondlike.
Something that's not conservative.
Something to save us.
Cotch 25, Dusty 24, Lids 28, Rance 25 wasted away at this footy club.
Outcoached by first year coaches and blokes he'd never recruit as assistants to keep a coaching box mutiny at arms length.
I'd effin take Brendan Bolton.
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Should have sacked Dimma last year and appointed Bomber Thomson. We'd be on top of the ladder right now if we did
Doesn't take any poo that man
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as per the thread title, its now about if Hardwick can take us any further.
I am seeing nothing, nothing at all to suggest he can.
His time is up.
He's done, a side being coached by a bloke in his 6th season, should not be continually failing in the same way
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You lot are unbelievable. Worst supporters. As soon as things look bad you all just turn in an instant. Hardwick has done great things for our club. I agree, I dont think he can win us a flag but he has made huge improvements from the Terry Wallace days.
I agree we are light years ahead but our depth is wanting. We're still a work in progress.
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Get Sanderson. Damaged goods but a great development coach. Their list is really taking shape.
Oops McCartney I mean
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We need a big name coach. Rossy Lyon, Roos, Longmire, Bomber Thompson (my preference), Mich Malthouse would coach this list to a flag. Worsfold even. All these guys are levels above Damian Hardwick
Forget throwing money at Dangerfield headhunt a proper coach
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Stop blaming the coach. It's the players who simply dish up that type of football. There is more than Dimma just coaching at Tigerland. You have a premiership coach in Choco Williams. & several other assistant coaches. The players are too blame !! The PLAYERS :thumbsdown
We have the players. They just need to want to win. just like other clubs come to play for the win nothing else.
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Stop blaming the coach. It's the players who simply dish up that type of football. There is more than Dimma just coaching at Tigerland. You have a premiership coach in Choco Williams. & several other assistant coaches. The players are too blame !! The PLAYERS :thumbsdown
to be honest Id get rid of the entire football department and about 16 players. but that's just me. Richmond needs to start again.
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Stop blaming the coach. It's the players who simply dish up that type of football. There is more than Dimma just coaching at Tigerland. You have a premiership coach in Choco Williams. & several other assistant coaches. The players are too blame !! The PLAYERS :thumbsdown
We have the players. They just need to want to win. just like other clubs come to play for the win nothing else.
Thankyou. Sick of all these girls on this forum crying and whining when we lose. I don't think Dimma will take us to a premiership but we lost last night due to the players.
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Stop blaming the coach. It's the players who simply dish up that type of football. There is more than Dimma just coaching at Tigerland. You have a premiership coach in Choco Williams. & several other assistant coaches. The players are too blame !! The PLAYERS :thumbsdown
to be honest Id get rid of the entire football department and about 16 players. but that's just me. Richmond needs to start again.
& it will take several years to mode another 16 players to become a playing group. Money & high profile players don't win premierships. A hungry group of players who want to win at all cost & who are prepared to sacrifice everything do. The window to win can be a once in a lifetime thing over a possible 1- to 15 years for many. Some don't see it over 20. Have a chat to Robert Harvey if you ever get the chance ask him. You will be surprised by his answers. Ask others like say Kevin Bartlett. He will tell you exactly how it is.
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There's 2 dimma supporters in this thread and another in one of the other threads. Embarassing
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Stop blaming the coach. It's the players who simply dish up that type of football. There is more than Dimma just coaching at Tigerland. You have a premiership coach in Choco Williams. & several other assistant coaches. The players are too blame !! The PLAYERS :thumbsdown
to be honest Id get rid of the entire football department and about 16 players. but that's just me. Richmond needs to start again.
& it will take several years to mode another 16 players to become a playing group. Money & high profile players don't win premierships. A hungry group of players who want to win at all cost & who are prepared to sacrifice everything do. The window to win can be a once in a lifetime thing over a possible 1- to 15 years for many. Some don't see it over 20. Have a chat to Robert Harvey if you ever get the chance ask him. You will be surprised by his answers. Ask others like say Kevin Bartlett. He will tell you exactly how it is.
I reckon 2 years to replace 16 players. Use the national draft to bring in 6 kids a year and 2 quality players from other clubs. That's 8 in year 1 and another 8 in year 2. Not all the kids will work out but if you got 2 or 3 from one draft and 2 or 3 from the other that would plug plenty of holes.
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There's 2 dimma supporters in this thread and another in one of the other threads. Embarassing
really so who you going to have replace the coach & what do you think he will do with this current playing group.
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There's 2 dimma supporters in this thread and another in one of the other threads. Embarassing
really so who you going to have replace the coach & what do you think he will do with this current playing group.
this playing group isn't capable of doing anything. a new coach will bring in a new direction and hopefully sort the place out culturally.
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There's 2 dimma supporters in this thread and another in one of the other threads. Embarassing
That is understandable after such a pathetic performance.
However, if we beat the Cats, Norf and Magpies in the next 3 games, he will be hailed as the messiah!
That is football.
FWIW I don't thin that will happen and he will be replaced at the end of the year. Pity, as a person he is one of the most respected coaches we have ever had. Great family man and bloke. Too bad his ideas just don't cut the mustard.
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The moment I realised we were in for a big loss
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Stop blaming the coach. It's the players who simply dish up that type of football. There is more than Dimma just coaching at Tigerland. You have a premiership coach in Choco Williams. & several other assistant coaches. The players are too blame !! The PLAYERS :thumbsdown
to be honest Id get rid of the entire football department and about 16 players. but that's just me. Richmond needs to start again.
& it will take several years to mode another 16 players to become a playing group. Money & high profile players don't win premierships. A hungry group of players who want to win at all cost & who are prepared to sacrifice everything do. The window to win can be a once in a lifetime thing over a possible 1- to 15 years for many. Some don't see it over 20. Have a chat to Robert Harvey if you ever get the chance ask him. You will be surprised by his answers. Ask others like say Kevin Bartlett. He will tell you exactly how it is.
I reckon 2 years to replace 16 players. Use the national draft to bring in 6 kids a year and 2 quality players from other clubs. That's 8 in year 1 and another 8 in year 2. Not all the kids will work out but if you got 2 or 3 from one draft and 2 or 3 from the other that would plug plenty of holes.
Richmond reserves are in the second year of establishment so there are players there who are capable of taking on roles. They need game time & must be hungry enough to want to go the next level. "Generation Party" :snidegrin players are not sacrificing enough to win Silverware.
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Through Hardwick we are still playing a Hawthorn style of play from 3-5 years ago. The possession game at nearly all costs and wide movement of the ball.
The game has evolved. We haven't. More sadly, is Hardwick capable of change?
If we don't change, we will continue to lose and he has to go.
Such a waste of time and effort on everyone's part.
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Stop blaming the coach. It's the players who simply dish up that type of football. There is more than Dimma just coaching at Tigerland. You have a premiership coach in Choco Williams. & several other assistant coaches. The players are too blame !! The PLAYERS :thumbsdown
to be honest Id get rid of the entire football department and about 16 players. but that's just me. Richmond needs to start again.
& it will take several years to mode another 16 players to become a playing group. Money & high profile players don't win premierships. A hungry group of players who want to win at all cost & who are prepared to sacrifice everything do. The window to win can be a once in a lifetime thing over a possible 1- to 15 years for many. Some don't see it over 20. Have a chat to Robert Harvey if you ever get the chance ask him. You will be surprised by his answers. Ask others like say Kevin Bartlett. He will tell you exactly how it is.
I reckon 2 years to replace 16 players. Use the national draft to bring in 6 kids a year and 2 quality players from other clubs. That's 8 in year 1 and another 8 in year 2. Not all the kids will work out but if you got 2 or 3 from one draft and 2 or 3 from the other that would plug plenty of holes.
Richmond reserves are in the second year of establishment so there are players there who are capable of taking on roles. They need game time & must be hungry enough to want to go the next level. "Generation Party" :snidegrin players are not sacrificing enough to win Silverware.
It's Tigeritis®©™. Makes players worse & coaches delusional & content.
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The moment I realised we were in for a big loss
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While your posting photo's of Dimma how about we post some photo's of the players who make basic football errors. Here is a list of ones to show. Taylor Hunt sqibbing the contest that set the scene for the night l think it was second 1/4. Edwards kick that looked like a 4 year old kicked it. All those shots on goals from 30-40 metres out that are deadset give aways that keep sides in the game. Those who just blazed away going forward straight to Melbourne players cause they don't look upfield as they are in a panic. Morris desperation splashes on the ground at least 5 times. obviously they have mud in WA. l would back Dimma 100% to coach any side. Our players just had it all wrong last night & its the players that will cop it.
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watch how many times players put a teammate under pressure with an unnecessary or plain stupid handball.
We create space with a chain of handballs but then handball again to put a player under pressure.
Players take possession of the ball moving toward our goal and handball forward. Often this player is stationary and facing the wrong way, or he has to run onto the ball straight into trouble. It puts the receiver under immense unnecessary pressure.
This happens too many times, It is down to the coach as he is either too stupid to recognise and rectify it, or he is drilling it into the players at training.
Watch how often players are running forward of the contest rather getting in and helping, either as a release player or sheperding.
Again the coach is not recognising and rectifying or is instructing that.
These are the sort of things that can only be laid fairly and squarely at the coaches feet.
Sure there are things that sit with the players themselves, but there are also things that sit with coach
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watch how many times players put a teammate under pressure with an unnecessary or plain stupid handball.
We create space with a chain of handballs but then handball again to put a player under pressure.
Players take possession of the ball moving toward our goal and handball forward. Often this player is stationary and facing the wrong way, or he has to run onto the ball straight into trouble. It puts the receiver under immense unnecessary pressure.
This happens too many times, It is down to the coach as he is either too stupid to recognise and rectify it, or he is drilling it into the players at training.
Watch how often players are running forward of the contest rather getting in and helping, either as a release player or sheperding.
Again the coach is not recognising and rectifying or is instructing that.
These are the sort of things that can only be laid fairly and squarely at the coaches feet.
Sure there are things that sit with the players themselves, but there are also things that sit with coach
They are making BASIC football errors Al. They knew the basics before they were drafted. They are overusing the ball. That is not the coaches fault & l do say COACHES. The players are doing it after 5 handballs & are out of trouble & instead of kicking it long they dish it off short again & get nailed or its fumbled. That is solely the players fault.
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watch how many times players put a teammate under pressure with an unnecessary or plain stupid handball.
We create space with a chain of handballs but then handball again to put a player under pressure.
Players take possession of the ball moving toward our goal and handball forward. Often this player is stationary and facing the wrong way, or he has to run onto the ball straight into trouble. It puts the receiver under immense unnecessary pressure.
This happens too many times, It is down to the coach as he is either too stupid to recognise and rectify it, or he is drilling it into the players at training.
Watch how often players are running forward of the contest rather getting in and helping, either as a release player or sheperding.
Again the coach is not recognising and rectifying or is instructing that.
These are the sort of things that can only be laid fairly and squarely at the coaches feet.
Sure there are things that sit with the players themselves, but there are also things that sit with coach
They are making BASIC football errors Al. They knew the basics before they were drafted. They are overusing the ball. That is not the coaches fault & l do say COACHES. The players are doing it after 5 handballs & are out of trouble & instead of kicking it long they dish it off short again & get nailed or its fumbled. That is solely the players fault.
Wtf?
A coach's job is to drill his players so that they don't overuse the ball and make the same mistakes over and over again.
Why pay a coach if he has no responsibility in these areas?
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The moment I realised we were in for a big loss
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While your posting photo's of Dimma how about we post some photo's of the players who make basic football errors. Here is a list of ones to show. Taylor Hunt sqibbing the contest that set the scene for the night l think it was second 1/4. Edwards kick that looked like a 4 year old kicked it. All those shots on goals from 30-40 metres out that are deadset give aways that keep sides in the game. Those who just blazed away going forward straight to Melbourne players cause they don't look upfield as they are in a panic. Morris desperation splashes on the ground at least 5 times. obviously they have mud in WA. l would back Dimma 100% to coach any side. Our players just had it all wrong last night & its the players that will cop it.
This shot was taken when Dusty gave that stupid fifty away that resulted in an easy goal.
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The forward handball is clearly drilled into them.
If you watch the brisbane game they actually used it to effect at times. There was some close calls though, but the difference was the receiver was more often moving, and moving at the correct angle, and there was little opposition pressure. We have seen how it falls down when the opposition put pressure on them, like last night and the footscray game..
as i said, these things are either being drilled into them, or the coaches cannot recognise and rectify them. Either way it is the coaches who shoulder the blame for them.
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:clapping
should not be happening again and again to a team coached by a bloke in his 6th year - something fundamentally wrong
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Don't have to be a genius to see that Melbourne are a better drilled team than us.
Dimma has created a soft team that is too easy to shut down.
Time for a hard coach that can instill a simple game plan that is based on accountability and winning the contested ball.
FJ should go with Dimma. Neither are good enough. Time to move on.
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Don't have to be a genius to see that Melbourne are a better drilled team than us.
Dimma has created a soft team that is too easy to shut down.
Time for a hard coach that can instill a simple game plan that is based on accountability and winning the contested ball.
FJ should go with Dimma. Neither are good enough. Time to move on.
Paul Roos is one of the best coaches going around & has the complete support of his assistant coaches. Some of them being with him at Sydney. He is a genius when it comes to shutting down a side & can make the game look very ugly. Last night he shut us down & they roughed us up like cubs. We were beaten by a much smarter & more desperate group. Yes Hardwick & his assistants have alot of work to do. The main difference was our forwards got pushed up the ground & when we attacked there was no-one to go too. So they just booted the ball forward to who ? THEM & they booted it back & we were under pressure again & out of juice. They scored goals & our players like Morris laying on the ground several times. l would drop any player who did something like that. He offers nothing, Forever chasing flat out wasting energy & laying on the ground aint any sort of footballer. You can't blame the coach for those acts. Martin, Morris, Hunt, Ellis, that all cost goals. If they win next week what you going to say his the best coach. They won how many straight games last year under Hardwick. Its the players & their attitude. They got found out twice now & lets see how they perform against the Cats & another premiership coach. No excuses as we have Hardwick & Choco with several premiership players there instructing. They all can't be useless so blame the players on the ground at the time. l'm backing Hardwick 100% & if we have to go backwards too go forward then l will support that also while his coaching. l will support the playing group as well.
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For some reason Dimmas and his side kicks can't get this team up to win the games we should win at this stage.That is a major problem and concern as it happens time and time again.Team selection is also a issue guys getting games that should not be promoting players of the rookee list that have shown nothing like Arnot this week.
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Hardwick has no cattle to work with, Francis Jackson manages our list, no one could coach us to a win BLAME THE LIST MANAGER/S
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Hardwick has no cattle to work with, Francis Jackson manages our list, no one could coach us to a win BLAME THE LIST MANAGER/S
There are list management problems, then there are problems relating to mindset which relates back to the coaches msg - last night and the bulldogs game was not about list management
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How many coaches know that Richmond will break if you apply pressure by playing hard footy?
Nothing has changed in 20 years.
Walls made them soft & we've had a culture of softness ever since.
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Still some supporters on the DH bandwagon I Bomber e...
Its not about being on his bandwagon. Its just that the reason why we got Hardwick is because no-one else wanted us. Its easy to point to Hinckley but he was passed over by a few clubs too and at that time, Hardwick was clearly a better candidate. Perhaps not so much now.
We also think it is just a click of the finger and bomber will come to our door. He won't, if we sack Hardwick and approach bomber, it will reinforce why he refused us coach us to begin with.
Hard wick also got passed on by plenty of clubs. Including his own club Essendon!!!!
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Doesn't take the best coaches that long. How long did it take Clarkson to win his first? Hawks were below us when we appointed Wallet
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18 games to fix the problems or gtfo
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What's changed since our 2013 season ? Playing pretty good footy. Winning most games we should. Beating some top table sides ( Sydney, Hawthorn, freo ? ) did we get ahead of ourselves and think it would all just fall into place even though we wee beaten in the finals by a team which didn't even make the finals ?
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What's changed since our 2013 season ? Playing pretty good footy. Winning most games we should. Beating some top table sides ( Sydney, Hawthorn, freo ? ) did we get ahead of ourselves and think it would all just fall into place even though we wee beaten in the finals by a team which didn't even make the finals ?
Do you think we are winning most games we should?:-
2014 losses to Melbourne, Bulldogs, Suns, Collingwood by 40 pts, Essendon by 50 pts.
2015 losses to Melbourne, Bulldogs, ..................
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He was saying we did that in 2013.
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Correct ^ My post was badly worded so I can understand the confusion on that one.
to correct my post we beat top table sides in Freo ( nearly won both games ) Hawthorn and Port.
We also had bad losses to Geelong Collingwood North and Essendon.
But the style of footy we were playing was much better and you can tell the players were hungry. I guess that taste of a finals loss was enough for them
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18 games to fix the problems or gtfo
limp into 8th
get smashed again
wunderbar
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After watching the Bulldogs smash Adelaide today. l think we need to realize that the Bulldogs have gotten rid of the deadwood that was bleeding the club big dollars & replaced them with fit players. A bunch of fit hungry players belted us & belted the Crows & are on 3 wins. We can hate them but we need to respect our opponents & stick to the game plan & task. Us supporters need to support the club & the playing group & the coaches.
:gotigers
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While your posting photo's of Dimma how about we post some photo's of the players who make basic football errors. Here is a list of ones to show. Taylor Hunt sqibbing the contest that set the scene for the night l think it was second 1/4. Edwards kick that looked like a 4 year old kicked it. All those shots on goals from 30-40 metres out that are deadset give aways that keep sides in the game. Those who just blazed away going forward straight to Melbourne players cause they don't look upfield as they are in a panic. Morris desperation splashes on the ground at least 5 times. obviously they have mud in WA. l would back Dimma 100% to coach any side. Our players just had it all wrong last night & its the players that will cop it.
I've always backed Hardwick but no more I'm afraid. If you honestly think he doesn't deserve any critiscm then I don't know if ever will. Players were useless but he did nothing to fix it.
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After watching the Bulldogs smash Adelaide today. l think we need to realize that the Bulldogs have gotten rid of the deadwood that was bleeding the club big dollars & replaced them with fit players. A bunch of fit hungry players belted us & belted the Crows & are on 3 wins. We can hate them but we need to respect our opponents & stick to the game plan & task. Us supporters need to support the club & the playing group & the coaches.
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Douglas Haig better known as 'Butcher Haig" was a general who stuck to his own war plan unwaveringly (like Hardwick is doing at Richmond)
Quote " Called "Butcher Haig" for the two million British casualties under his command, he became the model of class-based incompetent commanders unable to grasp modern tactics and technology." If it wasn't for Aussie Lieutenant General Monash coming up with revolutionary new tactics the result may have been a lot worse.
Hardwick too has been unable to adjust to the changes in modern football and our club is suffering as a result.
We can do as the British did and continue to do more of the same as Tigermonk is suggesting or replace him with a coach who is able to adapt to the changing tactics of our game.
For two seasons Hardwick has had the opportunity to bring in an assistant game day coach with experience and creativity but has chosen to bring in inexperienced coaches.
I use this analogy to make the point that either Hardwick must be willing to change and adapt or the Richmond Football Club must move him on. Otherwise we may squander any chance the current football playing group has of having a tilt at a premiership.
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The only people more willfully ignorant than Hardwick are those still supporting him.
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The only people more willfully ignorant than Hardwick are those still supporting him.
fools the lot of them
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:yep
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We are in big trouble people
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Footys a funny game folks, who knows where we may be in four weeks
I think a chill pill and a few beers and a bit of thoughtful reflection is called for
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Footys a funny game folks, who knows where we may be in four weeks
2 and 6
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FMD how can you totally say its all Hardwicks fault.. What i have seen so far this year is guys, nay, metrosexual softies, not go in for the pill. if they think they'll mess up their hair or heaven forbid bust a nail they shirk the contest.
WE ARE SOFT!!! Teams know it and we know it..
Dusty, for a guy that acts all tough how about you start intimidating opposition!
Cotch, Dont go and hide in the forward line from a tag,, take him on.
Rance, if you want the cash mate, you need to do it when chappy isnt next to you helping out.
Edwards,, well done son.
Jack, get selfish dude,,
Morris,, there is a footy involved n the game,, get it sometimes
Flossy,, trust yourself, your in the top 10 players mate
Arnot,, pee off, your poo
Astbury, beeeeliiiieeeeve in yourself
Ellis, dont get the hipe,, stop being a nice guy
Miles,, well done
Houli.. hmmm you have learnt to not shirk.. still working on it though. to nice for your own good
Gordo, you run all day,, how come its not where the footy is?
Ivvy,, where have the angry eyes gone??? show me some baltic passion
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What I don't understand with us is Cotch gets the hard tag who hard tags the opposition top mid from us. Who roughs their mid up like Vince did Danger or McCaffer did Cotch last year.
Thought that was Hunt.
Regardless we have no toughness , just cruising downhill skiers.
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Footys a funny game folks, who knows where we may be in four weeks
I think a chill pill and a few beers and a bit of thoughtful reflection is called for
It's HILARIOUS in fact.
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FMD how can you totally say its all Hardwicks fault.. What i have seen so far this year is guys, nay, metrosexual softies, not go in for the pill. if they think they'll mess up their hair or heaven forbid bust a nail they shirk the contest.
WE ARE SOFT!!! Teams know it and we know it..
Dusty, for a guy that acts all tough how about you start intimidating opposition!
Cotch, Dont go and hide in the forward line from a tag,, take him on.
Rance, if you want the cash mate, you need to do it when chappy isnt next to you helping out.
Edwards,, well done son.
Jack, get selfish dude,,
Morris,, there is a footy involved n the game,, get it sometimes
Flossy,, trust yourself, your in the top 10 players mate
Arnot,, pee off, your poo
Astbury, beeeeliiiieeeeve in yourself
Ellis, dont get the hipe,, stop being a nice guy
Miles,, well done
Houli.. hmmm you have learnt to not shirk.. still working on it though. to nice for your own good
Gordo, you run all day,, how come its not where the footy is?
Ivvy,, where have the angry eyes gone??? show me some baltic passion
i didnt watch the game
but miles, rance, vlastuin = not soft
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My concern with Hardwick is this ( and I am not a sack the coach type);
Great/ good coaches develop new game plans that catches the opposition offside as well as revolutionalising the game. Eade (not necessarily a great coach) invented the flood, Pagan invented Pagans paddock, Clarkeson invented the press, Malthouse invented high possession keep control of the football, Hinckley invented fast football and so on.
Hardwick just brings a game plan that comes from the other clubs he has worked at, and those plans are obsolete.
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Hinkley's gameplan is basically Hafey's updated for the modern era.
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Hinkley's gameplan is basically Hafey's updated for the modern era.
Yes, agree but is Shultz their version of Royce?
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Hinkley's gameplan is basically Hafey's updated for the modern era.
Yes, agree but is Shultz their version Royce?
We need to get Coach back, only he can answer that....
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"Do the simple things at an extremely high level & you become unstoppable". That was Hardwick's original mantra - all he needs to do is to get back to it & make sure that his players live up to it before he hands them a Richmond jumper! :gotigers
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"Do the simple things at an extremely high level & you become unstoppable". That was Hardwick's original mantra - all he needs to do is to get back to it & make sure that his players live up to it before he hands them a Richmond jumper! :gotigers
pfft. he was a rubbish player.
and never been a good coach.
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In loved something Dane Swan said on MMM yesterday arvo. It was just saying you may not be the most talented or skilled but you can always bring effort. It just resonated so well with the effortless crap we've been dishing up. Effort is how good great coaches get the most from their average players.
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In loved something Dane Swan said on MMM yesterday arvo. It was just saying you may not be the most talented or skilled but you can always bring effort. It just resonated so well with the effortless crap we've been dishing up. Effort is how good great coaches get the most from their average players.
yep
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In loved something Dane Swan said on MMM yesterday arvo. It was just saying you may not be the most talented or skilled but you can always bring effort. It just resonated so well with the effortless crap we've been dishing up. Effort is how good great coaches get the most from their average players.
exactly. Gold Coast have the biggest pool of talent yet they can't win without Capt Gary constantly whipping them into shape.
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:clapping
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Dwaino, that post just hit the sweet spot. I was watching footage of them in the rooms post game on 360 last night and they looked shell shocked - like they didn't see it coming. Hello? Did they really think that level of effort and intensity would cut it? Stuff me sideways.
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but the idiots dont learn. how many times have they embarrassed themselves with sub par effort, yet they keep dishing it up, and we get the same crap from the leaders afterwards.
How many stuffing times do you need to turn up with the wrong attitude and get embarrassed because of it before the penny drops?
If you look at all the great coaches in team sports around the world and they all have a mantra of always give your best effort. they drill it into their players. be your best, work hard etc.
So what the stuff does hardwick drill into these prima donnas ?
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How many coaches have to be sacked before people realise that Richmond FAIL every year because of belief and massive amounts of it, not simply because of the coach.
A club as a whole needs to get past their own past.
One example was geelong, couldn't win and didn't or believe how to, they overcame their past to forge a new belief.
Essendon has belief that they can win a game and run and run and run in the last 5 mins if they believe they are close enough to win. They run until they cannot run anymore, with great results by getting over the line to JUST win. But they don't have a belief of winning any more than that.
St kilda has the belief that they cannot win enough to get the big one as their history keeps reminding them.
On the other hand belief can be manufactured over time such as Freo and the power.
Richmond just need to stuff off the past and create a new solid history.
Many players discarded from Richmond because they were crap are turning into or have become good players. I use to hate nahas and he is now becoming a much more solid and creative player, why? not because he has a better coach but he has at his disposal belief of winning and that history makes that happen.
Richmond will be crap until at least this one point is rectified (and other crap as well)
But in my true fashion, head in the dirt or what ever you want, I stll believe week in week out that we can win, which is why I never do well at tipping comps :lol)
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without going into whether or not Nahas is actually any better, but if you think that a players new found self belief has nothing to with coaching and is down to a clubs history ........
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Nahas
Richmond 2013 - 6 games 47 Disposals - 3 goals - 11 tackles - 14 inside 50's - 17 contest pos - 32 uncontested pos
North 2014 - 8 games 112 Disposals - 7 goals - 29 tackles - 21 inside 50's - 41 contest pos - 73 uncontested pos
North 2015 - 3 games 51 Disposals - 5 goals - 10 tackles - 11 inside 50's - 9 contest pos - 44 uncontested pos
Yes improving dramatically.
And yes I do believe that belief has the most to do with it not the coach by himself, belief comes from everything and all that is around him, players, coaches, everything.
Sadly, I truly believe that no matter who the coach may have been over the past 30 odd bloody years, not much would have been different unless they were willing and able to change that belief of the past and the failure that Richmond has truly been.
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Northey did a pretty good job of installing self belief in his players
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Better and more committed players around you do that also.
If North have a bad day on Sat v Hawks or even better next week he won't get near the pill.
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Better and more committed players around you do that also.
If North have a bad day on Sat v Hawks or even better next week he won't get near the pill.
Exactly, as I said everything that has belief around a player inspires belief, and norf will be north and won't have a bad day, they may lose, they may not.
(Don't really care to much for norf and hate hawthorn so I don't care who wins, I just love watchin great games with awesome talent on display. And no, I'm not talkin about nahas).
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Reckon you're laying it on a bit thick there 1980 - show us nahas years at Richmond in 2011-12.
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Always struggled against the better, bigger bodied teams did Nahas HRT.
Could be electric and pathetic in the same game.
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So what the stuff does hardwick drill into these prima donnas ?
Think about it and you'll realise why certain players keep getting games
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Give me Nahas over any bloke in our forward line anyday (except for Riewoldt and Griffith)
Would trade Sam Lloyd for him in a heartbeat
edited for avoiding the swear filter
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Always struggled against the better, bigger bodied teams did Nahas HRT.
Could be electric and pathetic in the same game.
Agreed but I'm not sure anthing is different at nort
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Give me Nahas over any bloke in our forward line anyday (except for Riewoldt and Griffith)
Would trade Sam Lloyd for him in a heartbeat
Sam who?
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How much longer must we suffer ? :banghead The Dogs are beating Sydney :whistle
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2 goals in a half of footy after 5+ years of coaching.
Seriously?
Seriously!
::)
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It will all be ok when Lids comes back :wallywink
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2 goals in a half of footy after 5+ years of coaching.
Seriously?
Seriously!
::)
Sydney were 1.3 at half time against Freo last week. They came back to nearly win the game so let's see if we can do anything at all this qurater.
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Headless chooks
Players have no idea what our strength us..
There is a difference between moving the ball quickly with a focus on playing on compared to just suicide panic footy..
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2 goals in a half of footy after 5+ years of coaching.
Seriously?
Seriously!
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Sydney were 1.3 at half time against Freo last week. They came back to nearly win the game so let's see if we can do anything at all this qurater.
Really?
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Headless chooks
Players have no idea what our strength us..
There is a difference between moving the ball quickly with a focus on playing on compared to just suicide panic footy..
The commentators were hopeless encouraging this kind of footy. You can't sustain it and will inevitably get caught out the other way. It made us look amateurish.
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Agree unlikely to take us to a premiership. Not a good tactical coach. Was outcoached by Scott again.
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Too stubborn and pig headed to listen to those around him, it's always his way and Benny and his cohorts are supporting it. Stuffin joke he has turned us into
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Headless chooks
Players have no idea what our strength us..
There is a difference between moving the ball quickly with a focus on playing on compared to just suicide panic footy..
The commentators were hopeless encouraging this kind of footy. You can't sustain it and will inevitably get caught out the other way. It made us look amateurish.
Yes and no. Port can do it. Then again, we aren't Port
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Hardwick can't coach.
No plan B and plan A doesn't play to our strengths ...
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Plan Bs and unicorns........ my favorite things
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Plan Bs and unicorns........ my favorite things
Always just assumed "Plan B" was just a catch-all phrase for the ability to adapt & adjust to match situations - minor tweaks, the right positional changes at the right time, playing tempo footy, flooding back etc.......not an actual fully implemented secondary/back up game plan that's diametrically opposed to "Plan A" and ready to go and be switched on at anytime during a match. If there is such a thing, I'd say it's when teams revert to one-on-one, which is just the default setting of most sides.
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Plan Bs and unicorns........ my favorite things
Always just assumed "Plan B" was just a catch-all phrase for the ability to adapt & adjust to match situations - minor tweaks, the right positional changes at the right time, playing tempo footy, flooding back etc.......not an actual fully implemented secondary/back up game plan that's diametrically opposed to "Plan A" and ready to go and be switched on at anytime during a match. If there is such a thing, I'd say it's when teams revert to one-on-one, which is just the default setting of most sides.
Right
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I think you just summed up how i see the whole thing, but it;s all part of the "gameplan"
When hardwick took over the players talked about the playbooks they given with set plays and differnt setups /styles for different game situations. This wasnt anything new in the football world, just at richmond.
Whether hardwick has the correct plans in [place or can teach the players to impliment them is a different issue, but we do have in place what you describe.
I do differ though, in that when Plan B is mentioned, i'm sure people are talking about the diometrical differnt plan that the coach can turn to to magically turn a crap performance around, which just doesnt exist.
Take hawthornes comback a few weeks ago to near snatch the game. They didnt do anything different, the players just pulled their collective fingers out and starting doing what they should have been doing to the level they are capable of.
combacks and mid game turn arounds are more to do with the players than the coaches. The coaches work is mainly done during the week and besides tweaking matchups and trying to get the players to perform with what they say, they have little influence once the game is underway at this level
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combacks and mid game turn arounds are more to do with the players than the coaches. The coaches work is mainly done during the week and besides tweaking matchups and trying to get the players to perform with what they say, they have little influence once the game is underway at this level
Hard to argue with that
That's why I keep banging on about leadership.
Hawthorn's leader are the ones during the course of game get things back on track. It's been said many times that Hodge is like an on field coach during the course of a game. He simply leads
We don't have that yet and I am not sure if we are going to in the short to mid term
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^ Agree 100%
Watched Hodge, Lewis and Mitchell closely last night.
Hodge and Lewis really set the tone early, being aggressive and physical and basically bullying the crap out of Swallow and Goldstein. Really put North in their place.
Then Mitchell stood up, played a solid game, kept the players focussed and did a good speech afterwards about how Hodge and Lewis really 'let the team down' when in reality they set the game up.
Then watched Hodge talking to Swallow after the game. Swallow looked like he could cry. Hodge looked like he was trying to kill him with a glare LOL
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^ Agree 100%
Watched Hodge, Lewis and Mitchell closely last night.
Hodge and Lewis really set the tone early, being aggressive and physical and basically bullying the crap out of Swallow and Goldstein. Really put North in their place.
Then Mitchell stood up, played a solid game, kept the players focussed and did a good speech afterwards about how Hodge and Lewis really 'let the team down' when in reality they set the game up.
Then watched Hodge talking to Swallow after the game. Swallow looked like he could cry. Hodge looked like he was trying to kill him with a glare LOL
No bullies at Richmond
lol @ the psychological draft testing
morons
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^ Agree 100%
Watched Hodge, Lewis and Mitchell closely last night.
Hodge and Lewis really set the tone early, being aggressive and physical and basically bullying the crap out of Swallow and Goldstein. Really put North in their place.
Then Mitchell stood up, played a solid game, kept the players focussed and did a good speech afterwards about how Hodge and Lewis really 'let the team down' when in reality they set the game up.
Then watched Hodge talking to Swallow after the game. Swallow looked like he could cry. Hodge looked like he was trying to kill him with a glare LOL
Watching last nights game North v Hawks reinforced how intimidation is a key quality of successful teams.
Even in the more cleaned up modern version of the game , violence and intimidation or the threat thereof is still as relevant as it was in previous decades.
Last night hawks had a couple of reckless acts but it set the tone that North couldn't or weren't prepared to rIse up to. In a similar way, hawks in last years GF targetted Dan Hannerbury roughing him up (legally) and nobody from the Swans were able to fly the flag.
Not excusing Hodge and Lewis crude hits but the reality is that intimidation of the opposition in football is almost a necessary requirement for success as it has been and probably always will be.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/violence-and-intimidation-discuss-penalties-in-the-mrp-thread.1095944/
Not at tigerland
cause we got potatoes for players
soft weak girls
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Will Gale and Peggy just sit back again and do nothing ?
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I beg to disagree
Hardwick can take us further
Towards the wooden spoon
Seriously though, it is our list management, not the coach, Hartley, Richardson and Jackson sgould be the first to go.
Its like a snake bite, you have to remove the pouson before the patient improves.
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I beg to disagree
Hardwick can take us further
Towards the wooden spoon
Seriously though, it is our list management, not the coach, Hartley, Richardson and Jackson sgould be the first to go.
Its like a snake bite, you have to remove the pouson before the patient improves.
It's the coach too
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I beg to disagree
Hardwick can take us further
Towards the wooden spoon
Seriously though, it is our list management, not the coach, Hartley, Richardson and Jackson sgould be the first to go.
Its like a snake bite, you have to remove the pouson before the patient improves.
It's the coach too
Yep it's both. Our list is mediocre and our coach has taken us far as he can. Need to upgrade both.
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I beg to disagree
Hardwick can take us further
Towards the wooden spoon
Seriously though, it is our list management, not the coach, Hartley, Richardson and Jackson sgould be the first to go.
Its like a snake bite, you have to remove the pouson before the patient improves.
It's the coach too
Yep it's both. Our list is mediocre and our coach has taken us far as he can. Need to upgrade both.
Hit the nail on the head :clapping
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we'd be a bonafide top 6 side with bomber Thompson and probably pushing top 4
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and 4 new players
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Plus a bonafide ruckman and Forward.
6 more players.
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And a new boot studder!
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what about an orange boy for 3/4 time?
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Don't forget an overweight water man sitting on the inside of the fence. The tiger logo on his chest smiling and frowning on his slow but hurried clumsy movement.
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we'd be a bonafide top 6 side with bomber Thompson and probably pushing top 4
I don't think we're anywhere near this level. Look at the team we had today.
I'd say there's 4 blokes who aren't AFL standard.
Astbury
Batch
Morris
Gordon
I'd throw Lloyd and Vickery in here as well if they were playing.
There's another 6 who are barely competent.
Newman
Griff
McIntosh
Griggs
Grimes
Hunt
That's 10 players who on any given day aren't up to it. What concerns me most is of those 10 only 3 have any real upside (Astbury, Griff and McIntosh). As long as we continue to blokes like this we max out as a mid table side at best.
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Back to the drawing board
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Move the coaches and the teachers pets on now :banghead
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Look, our Kpi's.....
.....and we are a better team then last year.
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Hardwick can take us further.
Further down the ladder. :lol :lol :lol
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Look, our Kpi's.....
.....and we are a better team then last year.
Consistency. That was our theme today.
AFL 2 in forward 50 entries. What does that say about our game style?
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we'd be a bonafide top 6 side with bomber Thompson and probably pushing top 4
I don't think
're anywhere near this level. Look at the team we had today.
I'd say there's 4 blokes who aren't AFL standard.
Astbury
Batch
Morris
Gordon
I'd throw Lloyd and Vickery in here as well if they were playing.
There's another 6 who are barely competent.
Newman
Griff
McIntosh
Griggs
Grimes
Hunt
That's 10 players who on any given day aren't up to it. What concerns me most is of those 10 only 3 have any real upside (Astbury, Griff and McIntosh). As long as we continue to blokes like this we max out as a mid table side at best.
Hunt might have upside too. Your selling him short. He may not too, but he might.
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we'd be a bonafide top 6 side with bomber Thompson and probably pushing top 4
top 2 :shh
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So a change of coach and a list that has Grigg on it becomes a top 2 side?
LMAO
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So a change of coach and a list that has Grigg on it becomes a top 2 side?
LMAO
there are 44 other players on the list
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gee and here is was thinking all our woes were down to Grigg. well, shiver me timbers.
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Albert is hardwick the man to take us further up the ladder to be a top side that challenge?
Yes or No.
Those not in favour have labelled their reasons why so id like to hear from those who think he can instead of the whining nappy comments
Before you answer no one expects to see us as a top 2 side, but stuff when you see pies swans lose elite players yet still hover around the top 4 questions need to asked of the coach and the team he has assembled. I have always been critical of the off field team.
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we'd be a bonafide top 6 side with bomber Thompson and probably pushing top 4
top 2 :shh
Awesome bump :clapping
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Albert is hardwick the man to take us further up the ladder to be a top side that challenge?
Yes or No.
Those not in favour have labelled their reasons why so id like to hear from those who think he can instead of the whining nappy comments
Before you answer no one expects to see us as a top 2 side, but stuff when you see pies swans lose elite players yet still hover around the top 4 questions need to asked of the coach and the team he has assembled. I have always been critical of the off field team.
No I dont, and Ive stated it before, but I think people lay too much blame on him (and probably coaches in general) at times.
Critisism where its due, but sometimes people just look for the most inane reasons to stick the boots in once they have decided to hate.
And then we get the stupidity that comes with it.
Interesting you mention the pies. Do you rate Buckley as a coach? would he take us up or down the ladder, or continue to stagnate?
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Maybe we do but if you look back on my history i dont just blame him. In fact i have supported him until the port smashing. i think the decision to go an assistant coach or 2 down since 2013 is the dumbest football decision ive seen in a long time.
not sure what we spend in the dept but id say its not near the top clubs.
I think our development is a big area of concern. To even think newman would be considered ahead of mcdonough is beyond comprehension. That is why i blame hardwick because of the stupid decisions like that.
Buckley i dont like for reasons i cant answer. Maybe its a pies thing but if he comes on board with the same football department he will find himself in exactly the same boat. I look at blokes like oxley and elliot and think to myself when the hell is hackson going to find us a gem like that. Its been 10 years and he hasn't produced much.
Maybe thats not hardwicks fault and his just a puppett who knows.
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Buckley > Damien