Hardwick can't take us any further

[Phil Mrakov]

There's 2 dimma supporters in this thread and another in one of the other threads. Embarassing

[No More]

Stop blaming the coach. It's the players who simply dish up that type of football. There is more than Dimma just coaching at Tigerland. You have a premiership coach in Choco Williams. & several other assistant coaches. The players are too blame !! The PLAYERS 

to be honest Id get rid of the entire football department and about 16 players. but that's just me. Richmond needs to start again.

& it will take several years to mode another 16 players to become a playing group. Money & high profile players don't win premierships. A hungry group of players who want to win at all cost & who are prepared to sacrifice everything do. The window to win can be a once in a lifetime thing over a possible 1- to 15 years for many. Some don't see it over 20. Have a chat to Robert Harvey if you ever get the chance ask him. You will be surprised by his answers. Ask others like say Kevin Bartlett. He will tell you exactly how it is.

I reckon 2 years to replace 16 players. Use the national draft to bring in 6 kids a year and 2 quality players from other clubs. That's 8 in year 1 and another 8 in year 2. Not all the kids will work out but if you got 2 or 3 from one draft and 2 or 3 from the other that would plug plenty of holes.

[TigerMonk]

There's 2 dimma supporters in this thread and another in one of the other threads. Embarassing

really so who you going to have replace the coach & what do you think he will do with this current playing group.

[No More]

There's 2 dimma supporters in this thread and another in one of the other threads. Embarassing

really so who you going to have replace the coach & what do you think he will do with this current playing group.

this playing group isn't capable of doing anything. a new coach will bring in a new direction and hopefully sort the place out culturally.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

There's 2 dimma supporters in this thread and another in one of the other threads. Embarassing

That is understandable after such a pathetic performance.

However, if we beat the Cats, Norf and Magpies in the next 3 games, he will be hailed as the messiah!

That is football.

FWIW I don't thin that will happen and he will be replaced at the end of the year.  Pity, as a person he is one of the most respected coaches we have ever had. Great family man and bloke. Too bad his ideas just don't cut the mustard.

[Yeahright]

The moment I realised we were in for a big loss

[TigerMonk]

Stop blaming the coach. It's the players who simply dish up that type of football. There is more than Dimma just coaching at Tigerland. You have a premiership coach in Choco Williams. & several other assistant coaches. The players are too blame !! The PLAYERS 

to be honest Id get rid of the entire football department and about 16 players. but that's just me. Richmond needs to start again.

& it will take several years to mode another 16 players to become a playing group. Money & high profile players don't win premierships. A hungry group of players who want to win at all cost & who are prepared to sacrifice everything do. The window to win can be a once in a lifetime thing over a possible 1- to 15 years for many. Some don't see it over 20. Have a chat to Robert Harvey if you ever get the chance ask him. You will be surprised by his answers. Ask others like say Kevin Bartlett. He will tell you exactly how it is.

I reckon 2 years to replace 16 players. Use the national draft to bring in 6 kids a year and 2 quality players from other clubs. That's 8 in year 1 and another 8 in year 2. Not all the kids will work out but if you got 2 or 3 from one draft and 2 or 3 from the other that would plug plenty of holes.

Richmond reserves are in the second year of establishment so there are players there who are capable of taking on roles. They need game time & must be hungry enough to want to go the next level. "Generation Party"  players are not sacrificing enough to win Silverware.

[🏅Dooks]

Through Hardwick we are still playing a Hawthorn style of play from 3-5 years ago. The possession game at nearly all costs and wide movement of the ball.

The game has evolved. We haven't. More sadly, is Hardwick capable of change?

If we don't change, we will continue to lose and he has to go.

Such a waste of time and effort on everyone's part.

[Tigeritis™©®]

Stop blaming the coach. It's the players who simply dish up that type of football. There is more than Dimma just coaching at Tigerland. You have a premiership coach in Choco Williams. & several other assistant coaches. The players are too blame !! The PLAYERS 

to be honest Id get rid of the entire football department and about 16 players. but that's just me. Richmond needs to start again.

& it will take several years to mode another 16 players to become a playing group. Money & high profile players don't win premierships. A hungry group of players who want to win at all cost & who are prepared to sacrifice everything do. The window to win can be a once in a lifetime thing over a possible 1- to 15 years for many. Some don't see it over 20. Have a chat to Robert Harvey if you ever get the chance ask him. You will be surprised by his answers. Ask others like say Kevin Bartlett. He will tell you exactly how it is.

I reckon 2 years to replace 16 players. Use the national draft to bring in 6 kids a year and 2 quality players from other clubs. That's 8 in year 1 and another 8 in year 2. Not all the kids will work out but if you got 2 or 3 from one draft and 2 or 3 from the other that would plug plenty of holes.

Richmond reserves are in the second year of establishment so there are players there who are capable of taking on roles. They need game time & must be hungry enough to want to go the next level. "Generation Party"  players are not sacrificing enough to win Silverware.

It's Tigeritis®©™.  Makes players worse & coaches delusional & content.

[TigerMonk]

The moment I realised we were in for a big loss

While your posting photo's of Dimma how about we post some photo's of the players who make basic football errors. Here is a list of ones to show. Taylor Hunt sqibbing the contest that set the scene for the night l think it was second 1/4. Edwards kick that looked like a 4 year old kicked it. All those shots on goals from 30-40 metres out that are deadset give aways that keep sides in the game. Those who just blazed away going forward straight to Melbourne players cause they don't look upfield as they are in a panic. Morris desperation splashes on the ground at least 5 times. obviously they have mud in WA. l would back Dimma 100% to coach any side. Our players just had it all wrong last night & its the players that will cop it.

[Penelope]

watch how many times players put a teammate under pressure with an unnecessary or plain stupid handball.

We create space with a chain of handballs but then handball again to put a player under pressure.

Players take possession of the ball moving toward our goal and handball forward. Often this player is stationary and facing the wrong way, or he has to run onto the ball straight into trouble. It puts the receiver under immense unnecessary pressure.

This happens too many times, It is down to the coach as he is either too stupid to recognise and rectify it, or he is drilling it into the players at training.


Watch how often players are running forward of the contest rather getting in and helping, either as a release player or sheperding.

Again the coach is not recognising and rectifying or is instructing that.

These are the sort of things that can only be laid fairly and squarely at the coaches feet.

Sure there are things that sit with the players themselves, but there are also things that sit with coach

[TigerMonk]

watch how many times players put a teammate under pressure with an unnecessary or plain stupid handball.

We create space with a chain of handballs but then handball again to put a player under pressure.

Players take possession of the ball moving toward our goal and handball forward. Often this player is stationary and facing the wrong way, or he has to run onto the ball straight into trouble. It puts the receiver under immense unnecessary pressure.

This happens too many times, It is down to the coach as he is either too stupid to recognise and rectify it, or he is drilling it into the players at training.


Watch how often players are running forward of the contest rather getting in and helping, either as a release player or sheperding.

Again the coach is not recognising and rectifying or is instructing that.

These are the sort of things that can only be laid fairly and squarely at the coaches feet.

Sure there are things that sit with the players themselves, but there are also things that sit with coach

They are making BASIC football errors Al. They knew the basics before they were drafted. They are overusing the ball. That is not the coaches fault & l do say COACHES. The players are doing it after 5 handballs & are out of trouble & instead of kicking it long they dish it off short again & get nailed or its fumbled. That is solely the players fault.

[Willy]

watch how many times players put a teammate under pressure with an unnecessary or plain stupid handball.

We create space with a chain of handballs but then handball again to put a player under pressure.

Players take possession of the ball moving toward our goal and handball forward. Often this player is stationary and facing the wrong way, or he has to run onto the ball straight into trouble. It puts the receiver under immense unnecessary pressure.

This happens too many times, It is down to the coach as he is either too stupid to recognise and rectify it, or he is drilling it into the players at training.


Watch how often players are running forward of the contest rather getting in and helping, either as a release player or sheperding.

Again the coach is not recognising and rectifying or is instructing that.

These are the sort of things that can only be laid fairly and squarely at the coaches feet.

Sure there are things that sit with the players themselves, but there are also things that sit with coach

They are making BASIC football errors Al. They knew the basics before they were drafted. They are overusing the ball. That is not the coaches fault & l do say COACHES. The players are doing it after 5 handballs & are out of trouble & instead of kicking it long they dish it off short again & get nailed or its fumbled. That is solely the players fault.

Wtf?
A coach's job is to drill his players so that they don't overuse the ball and make the same mistakes over and over again.

Why pay a coach if he has no responsibility in these areas?

[Go Richo 12]

The moment I realised we were in for a big loss

While your posting photo's of Dimma how about we post some photo's of the players who make basic football errors. Here is a list of ones to show. Taylor Hunt sqibbing the contest that set the scene for the night l think it was second 1/4. Edwards kick that looked like a 4 year old kicked it. All those shots on goals from 30-40 metres out that are deadset give aways that keep sides in the game. Those who just blazed away going forward straight to Melbourne players cause they don't look upfield as they are in a panic. Morris desperation splashes on the ground at least 5 times. obviously they have mud in WA. l would back Dimma 100% to coach any side. Our players just had it all wrong last night & its the players that will cop it.

This shot was taken when Dusty gave that stupid fifty away that resulted in an easy goal.

[Penelope]

The forward handball is clearly drilled into them.

If you watch the brisbane game they actually used it to effect at times. There was some close calls though, but the difference was the receiver was more often moving, and moving at the correct angle, and there was little opposition pressure. We have seen how it falls down when the opposition put pressure on them, like last night and the footscray game..

as i said, these things are either being drilled into them, or the coaches cannot recognise and rectify them. Either way it is the coaches who shoulder the blame for them.