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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #120 on: May 03, 2015, 09:49:07 AM »
Too stubborn and pig headed to listen to those around him, it's always his way and Benny and his cohorts are supporting it. Stuffin joke he has turned us into

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #121 on: May 03, 2015, 09:54:39 AM »
Headless chooks

Players have no idea what our strength us..

There is a difference between moving the ball quickly with a focus on playing on compared to just suicide panic footy..

The commentators were hopeless encouraging this kind of footy. You can't sustain it and will inevitably get caught out the other way. It made us look amateurish.

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #122 on: May 03, 2015, 10:06:34 AM »
Hardwick can't coach.

No plan B and plan A doesn't play to our strengths ...

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #123 on: May 03, 2015, 05:15:27 PM »
Plan Bs and unicorns........ my favorite things
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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #124 on: May 03, 2015, 05:33:21 PM »
Plan Bs and unicorns........ my favorite things

Always just assumed "Plan B" was just a catch-all phrase for the ability to adapt & adjust to match situations - minor tweaks, the right positional changes at the right time, playing tempo footy, flooding back etc.......not an actual fully implemented secondary/back up game plan that's diametrically opposed to "Plan A" and  ready to go and be switched on at anytime during a match. If there is such a thing, I'd say it's when teams revert to one-on-one, which is just the default setting of most sides.
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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #125 on: May 03, 2015, 05:47:52 PM »
Plan Bs and unicorns........ my favorite things

Always just assumed "Plan B" was just a catch-all phrase for the ability to adapt & adjust to match situations - minor tweaks, the right positional changes at the right time, playing tempo footy, flooding back etc.......not an actual fully implemented secondary/back up game plan that's diametrically opposed to "Plan A" and  ready to go and be switched on at anytime during a match. If there is such a thing, I'd say it's when teams revert to one-on-one, which is just the default setting of most sides.

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #126 on: May 03, 2015, 05:55:52 PM »
I think you just summed up how i see the whole thing, but it;s all part of the "gameplan"
When hardwick took over the players talked about the playbooks they given with set plays and differnt setups /styles for different game situations. This wasnt anything new in the football world, just at richmond.

Whether hardwick has the correct plans in [place or can teach the players to impliment them is a different issue, but we do have in place what you describe.

I do differ though, in that when Plan B is mentioned, i'm sure people are talking about the diometrical differnt plan that the coach can turn to to magically turn a crap performance around, which just doesnt exist.

Take hawthornes comback a few weeks ago to near snatch the game. They didnt do anything different, the players just pulled their collective fingers out and starting doing what they should have been doing to the level they are capable of.

combacks and mid game turn arounds are more to do with the players than the coaches. The coaches work is mainly done during the week and besides tweaking matchups and trying to get the players to perform with what they say, they have little influence once the game is underway at this level

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #127 on: May 03, 2015, 06:00:43 PM »

combacks and mid game turn arounds are more to do with the players than the coaches. The coaches work is mainly done during the week and besides tweaking matchups and trying to get the players to perform with what they say, they have little influence once the game is underway at this level

Hard to argue with that

That's why I keep banging on about leadership.

Hawthorn's leader are the ones during the course of game get things back on track. It's been said many times that Hodge is like an on field coach during the course of a game. He simply leads

We don't have that yet and I am not sure if we are going to in the short to mid term
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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #128 on: May 03, 2015, 06:34:12 PM »
^ Agree 100%

Watched Hodge, Lewis and Mitchell closely last night.

Hodge and Lewis really set the tone early, being aggressive and physical and basically bullying the crap out of Swallow and Goldstein. Really put North in their place.

Then Mitchell stood up, played a solid game, kept the players focussed and did a good speech afterwards about how Hodge and Lewis really 'let the team down' when in reality they set the game up.

Then watched Hodge talking to Swallow after the game. Swallow looked like he could cry. Hodge looked like he was trying to kill him with a glare LOL

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #129 on: May 04, 2015, 11:19:01 AM »
^ Agree 100%

Watched Hodge, Lewis and Mitchell closely last night.

Hodge and Lewis really set the tone early, being aggressive and physical and basically bullying the crap out of Swallow and Goldstein. Really put North in their place.

Then Mitchell stood up, played a solid game, kept the players focussed and did a good speech afterwards about how Hodge and Lewis really 'let the team down' when in reality they set the game up.

Then watched Hodge talking to Swallow after the game. Swallow looked like he could cry. Hodge looked like he was trying to kill him with a glare LOL

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #130 on: May 05, 2015, 12:22:59 PM »
^ Agree 100%

Watched Hodge, Lewis and Mitchell closely last night.

Hodge and Lewis really set the tone early, being aggressive and physical and basically bullying the crap out of Swallow and Goldstein. Really put North in their place.

Then Mitchell stood up, played a solid game, kept the players focussed and did a good speech afterwards about how Hodge and Lewis really 'let the team down' when in reality they set the game up.

Then watched Hodge talking to Swallow after the game. Swallow looked like he could cry. Hodge looked like he was trying to kill him with a glare LOL

Watching last nights game North v Hawks reinforced how intimidation is a key quality of successful teams.

Even in the more cleaned up modern version of the game , violence and intimidation or the threat thereof is still as relevant as it was in previous decades.

Last night hawks had a couple of reckless acts but it set the tone that North couldn't or weren't prepared to rIse up to. In a similar way, hawks in last years GF targetted Dan Hannerbury roughing him up (legally) and nobody from the Swans were able to fly the flag.

Not excusing Hodge and Lewis crude hits but the reality is that intimidation of the opposition in football is almost a necessary requirement for success as it has been and probably always will be.


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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #131 on: May 09, 2015, 04:05:21 PM »
Will Gale and Peggy just sit back again and do nothing ?
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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #132 on: May 09, 2015, 05:59:01 PM »
I beg to disagree

Hardwick can take us further

Towards the wooden spoon

Seriously though, it is our list management, not the coach, Hartley, Richardson and Jackson sgould be the first to go.

Its like a snake bite, you have to remove the pouson before the patient improves.

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #133 on: May 09, 2015, 05:59:53 PM »
I beg to disagree

Hardwick can take us further

Towards the wooden spoon

Seriously though, it is our list management, not the coach, Hartley, Richardson and Jackson sgould be the first to go.

Its like a snake bite, you have to remove the pouson before the patient improves.
It's the coach too
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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #134 on: May 09, 2015, 06:01:53 PM »
I beg to disagree

Hardwick can take us further

Towards the wooden spoon

Seriously though, it is our list management, not the coach, Hartley, Richardson and Jackson sgould be the first to go.

Its like a snake bite, you have to remove the pouson before the patient improves.
It's the coach too
Yep it's both. Our list is mediocre and our coach has taken us far as he can. Need to upgrade both.