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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #90 on: April 29, 2015, 05:45:10 PM »
Hinkley's gameplan is basically Hafey's updated for the modern era.
Yes, agree but is  Shultz their version of Royce?
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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #91 on: April 29, 2015, 05:56:51 PM »
Hinkley's gameplan is basically Hafey's updated for the modern era.
Yes, agree but is  Shultz their version Royce?

We need to get Coach back, only he can answer that....
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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #92 on: April 29, 2015, 06:36:48 PM »
"Do the simple things at an extremely high level & you become unstoppable".  That was Hardwick's original mantra - all he needs to do is to get back to it & make sure that his players live up to it before he hands them a Richmond jumper!    :gotigers 
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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #93 on: April 29, 2015, 07:25:30 PM »
"Do the simple things at an extremely high level & you become unstoppable".  That was Hardwick's original mantra - all he needs to do is to get back to it & make sure that his players live up to it before he hands them a Richmond jumper!    :gotigers


pfft. he was a rubbish player.

and never been a good coach.

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #94 on: April 29, 2015, 07:30:19 PM »
In loved something Dane Swan said on MMM yesterday arvo. It was just saying you may not be the most talented or skilled but you can always bring effort. It just resonated so well with the effortless crap we've been dishing up. Effort is how good great coaches get the most from their average players.

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #95 on: April 29, 2015, 07:38:55 PM »
In loved something Dane Swan said on MMM yesterday arvo. It was just saying you may not be the most talented or skilled but you can always bring effort. It just resonated so well with the effortless crap we've been dishing up. Effort is how good great coaches get the most from their average players.

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #96 on: April 29, 2015, 07:44:10 PM »
In loved something Dane Swan said on MMM yesterday arvo. It was just saying you may not be the most talented or skilled but you can always bring effort. It just resonated so well with the effortless crap we've been dishing up. Effort is how good great coaches get the most from their average players.

exactly. Gold Coast have the biggest pool of talent yet they can't win without Capt Gary constantly whipping them into shape.

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #97 on: April 29, 2015, 07:58:11 PM »
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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #98 on: April 29, 2015, 08:15:45 PM »
Dwaino, that post just hit the sweet spot. I was watching footage of them in the rooms post game on 360 last night and they looked shell shocked - like they didn't see it coming. Hello? Did they really think that level of effort and intensity would cut it? Stuff me sideways.
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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #99 on: April 29, 2015, 08:46:04 PM »
but the idiots dont learn. how many times have they embarrassed themselves with sub par effort, yet they keep dishing it up, and we get the same crap from the leaders afterwards.

How many stuffing times do you need to turn up with the wrong attitude and get embarrassed because of it before the penny drops?

If you look at all the great coaches in team sports around the world and they all have a mantra of always give your best effort. they drill it into their players. be your best, work hard etc.

So what the stuff does hardwick drill into these prima donnas ?
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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #100 on: April 29, 2015, 09:12:34 PM »
How many coaches have to be sacked before people realise that Richmond FAIL every year because of belief and massive amounts of it, not simply because of the coach.
A club as a whole needs to get past their own past.
One example was geelong, couldn't win and didn't or believe how to, they overcame their past to forge a new belief.
Essendon has belief that they can win a game and run and run  and run in the last 5 mins if they believe they are close enough to win. They run until they cannot run anymore, with great results by getting over the line to JUST win. But they don't have a belief of winning any more than that.
St kilda has the belief that they cannot win enough to get the big one as their history keeps reminding them.

On the other hand belief can be manufactured over time such as Freo and the power.

Richmond just need to stuff off the past and create a new solid history.

Many players discarded from Richmond because they were crap are turning into or have become good players. I use to hate nahas and he is now becoming a much more solid and creative player, why? not because he has a better coach but he has at his disposal belief of winning and that history makes that happen.

Richmond will be crap until at least this one point is rectified (and other crap as well)

But in my true fashion, head in the dirt or what ever you want, I stll believe week in week out that we can win, which is why I never do well at tipping comps  :lol)

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #101 on: April 29, 2015, 09:21:31 PM »
without going into whether or not Nahas is actually any better, but  if you think that a players new found self belief has nothing to with coaching and is down to a clubs history ........
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

yaw rehto eht dellorcs ti fi daer ot reisae eb dluow tI

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #102 on: April 29, 2015, 09:46:20 PM »
Nahas
Richmond 2013 - 6 games 47 Disposals - 3 goals - 11 tackles - 14 inside 50's - 17 contest pos - 32 uncontested pos
North       2014 - 8 games 112 Disposals - 7 goals - 29 tackles - 21 inside 50's - 41 contest pos - 73 uncontested pos
North       2015 - 3 games 51 Disposals - 5 goals - 10 tackles - 11 inside 50's - 9 contest pos - 44 uncontested pos

Yes improving dramatically.
And yes I do believe that belief has the most to do with it not the coach by himself, belief comes from everything and all that is around him, players, coaches, everything.

Sadly, I truly believe that no matter who the coach may have been over the past 30 odd bloody years, not much would have been different unless they were willing and able to change that belief of the past and the failure that Richmond has truly been.

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #103 on: April 29, 2015, 09:48:54 PM »
Northey did a pretty good job of installing self belief in his players
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

yaw rehto eht dellorcs ti fi daer ot reisae eb dluow tI

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Re: Hardwick can't take us any further
« Reply #104 on: April 29, 2015, 09:49:32 PM »
Better and more committed players around you do that also.

If North have a bad day on Sat v Hawks or even better next week he won't get near the pill.