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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 11, 2015, 01:22:55 PM
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Thanks to our 'form', the MCG website is predicting a crowd of just 50k for a Collingwood game.
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Event: AFL Round 7
Teams: Richmond v Collingwood
Date: Sunday May 17, 2015
Start time: 3.20pm
Gate opening:
Public/AFL members: 1.30pm
MCC members: 1.00pm
Expected attendance:
50,000
General admission areas
Great Southern Stand
Q1-Q15
Ponsford Stand
Q31-Q36 (Rows AA-MM)
Olympic Stand
Q51-Q53 (Rows K-MM)
Q54-Q57
Car park opening:
Gate 3: 11.00am
Gate 5: 12.00pm
Gate 6: 12.00pm
Gate 7: 8.00am (pass holders only)
Cheersquad allocation:
Richmond - Bays M3 (Rows A-K) and M4 (Rows A-K)
Collingwood - Bay M33 (Rows A-O)
http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=b95531f2-a812-4e9a-be27-ca6c733b3190
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Cloke 10 straight, Elliot 5 goals.
Karnezis, Jesse White and Tony Armstrong to dominate.
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Must win game! :snidegrin
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Only 50k expected ? Clubs have 150,000 members between them
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8 point game
Then again a 8 pint game :cheers
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Line in the sand game.
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No more excuses.
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Care factor?
:sleep
:wavetowel
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think the last game between these 2 clubs l missed was when l was near death. This week l will miss cause l ain't watching any poo club we should beat up run us into the ground. This long time supporter is still mad from watching players who are gutless not having a red hot go :banghead
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This maybe their last chance for me…..
I want to ask defensive coach Ross Smith why his message isn't getting through to the players in the pre game address to the inner sanctum members! ;D
Don and WP, will you both be there?
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Think the Inner Sanctum crew get the stuff from the Ponsford this week and have to sit with the ". Common " 3121 members as the Pies have the rights to the Ponsford Stand
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This is the one game in the next 4 that I just need the team win FFS. :pray
I won't be able to get there but I'm hoping they can just do the right thing and win
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Think the Inner Sanctum crew get the stuff from the Ponsford this week and have to sit with the ". Common " 3121 members as the Pies have the rights to the Ponsford Stand
If we are we should all catch up! :clapping
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Think the Inner Sanctum crew get the stuff from the Ponsford this week and have to sit with the ". Common " 3121 members as the Pies have the rights to the Ponsford Stand
If we are we should all catch up! :clapping
I'm in we can post during the games from our iphones. :help
See you my fellow Inner Sanctumites on Sunday and 3121 fiends. :thumbsup
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Don and WP, will you both be there?
Yes will be there will have a guest with me
Think the Inner Sanctum crew get the stuff from the Ponsford this week and have to sit with the ". Common " 3121 members as the Pies have the rights to the Ponsford Stand
Yes we have
But we've been moved to the Olympic stand, not the Southern stand
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Don and WP, will you both be there?
Will be there Doc see you on Sunday. :thumbsup
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Match preview: Tigers v Magpies
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
May 13, 2015
SUMMARY
Richmond defender Troy Chaplin summed up the fallout from his team's loss to North Melbourne when he said "it's been a common theme for a long period of time". Patience is running thin with the Tigers and familiar names are not getting the job done after two wins in six games. For 4-2 Collingwood, their impressive start to the season hit a snag in round six when Geelong caused one of many upsets across the weekend. The Magpies fell 52 points behind at half-time and couldn't control the ball, eventually losing by 41 points at the MCG.
WHERE AND WHEN: MCG, Sunday, May 17, 3.20pm AEST
LAST FIVE TIMES
R4, 2014, Collingwood 16.14 (110) d Richmond 10.12 (72) at the MCG
R4, 2013, Collingwood 16.17 (113) d Richmond 11.13 (79) at the MCG
R2, 2012, Collingwood 12.13 (85) d Richmond 8.16 (64) at the MCG
R4, 2011, Collingwood 24.17 (161) d Richmond 13.12 (90) at the MCG
R17, 2010, Collingwood 19.13 (127) d Richmond 6.9 (45) at the MCG
THE SIX POINTS
1. Collingwood’s midfield was the difference between these sides in 2014, with now departed Dayne Beams best on ground with 30 disposals and three goals. Dane Swan (27 and two goals) and Scott Pendlebury (24 and three goals) were also influential.
2. The Magpies have been strong in contested possessions in 2015 and are ranked No.1 with an average of 153 a game. The Tigers are ranked 11th with 134.2 a game.
3. Collingwood has dominated Richmond recently winning the past seven matches, including three wins by more than 70 points. Damien Hardwick is 0-5 so far against the Magpies.
4. Both teams have struggled in centre clearances in 2015. Richmond is ranked 14th with 11.5 a game while Collingwood is 16th with 10.3 a game.
5. Collingwood is ranked second in 2015 for marks inside 50 with a total of 87, but Richmond isn’t far behind, equal third with 85.
6. Of Richmond's top 16 players in the Official AFL Player Ratings, brought to you by Gatorade, 12 of them are trending down. Only Ivan Maric, Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt and Troy Chaplin moved north after round six.
IT'S A BIG WEEK FOR …
Damien Hardwick and the Richmond match committee. Has the time come for an injection of youth, or will the Tigers persist with the players they have shown faith in for a number of years? Sticking with young players for an extended period in the seniors might be tough in the short-term but better for the club's future. It's time for tough decisions.
PREDICTION: Collingwood by 28 points
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-12/match-preview-tigers-v-magpies#sthash.r9bT6NYI.dpu
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"Sticking with young players for an extended period in the seniors might be tough in the short-term but better for the club's future. It's time for tough decisions." Lets see if the club is prepared to make those hard decisions. Not confident they will. Hope I am wrong.
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Anyone backing RIchmond?
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Anyone backing RIchmond?
Yep I think a 10 goal + win is on the cards
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I'm loading up on tigers over 15.
Let's be confident and smash these pricks.
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At the same time if we lose I hope it's by 100 points.
Just need some sort of decisions made at RFC even if we do win.
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Lolz. Ok. Good luck.
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Travis Cloke to have a big one.
People need to remember how poo a team they are so that the loss will compound their frustration
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Must drink game
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8 pint game
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Wine in the stand
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Freezing defining game
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Dimma today talking about the game this Sunday:
* They’ve [Collingwood] been very good. There’s some things that they do really well. They’re defending really well and they’ve got some really good targets up inside 50. People talk about Cloke but Jamie Elliott’s had an outstanding season and he’s a really important player to them. And what they do is they spread the load really well. They’ve got some guys that can run through the midfield and spread that. It’s not necessarily Pendlebury and Swan that are doing all the damage. They’ve got some good young players coming through there as well.
But we think this is a really winnable game.
Full article: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-05-14/hardwick-holds-pies-in-high-regard
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Dead man talking
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Despite our 'form', the bookies are tipping a close game :huh3
Richmond $2.00
Coll'wood $1.80
Line at 2.5 pts
Source: TAB (https://www.tab.com.au/sports/betting/AFL%20Football/competitions/AFL/matches/Richmond%20v%20Collingwood)
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They see THIS game really winnable. Lol.
Thanks dimmer. Good to know.
Good to know. :shh
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We don't even have a prayer. :banghead
We are in big trouble people
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We don't even have a prayer. :banghead
We are in big trouble people
yep 6-7 goals
bet Cloke turns around for and kicks 5.1 or something
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I've been saying we are in big trouble for a 6 weeks based on our list. It's very much one heavy defeat away from being properly exposed.
People don't get the extent of the problem just yet....watch for the tipping point
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How much longer can we wait dooks? A big loss is what we need for dimma and that flog Jackson's heads to roll
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I've been saying we are in big trouble for a 6 weeks based on our list. It's very much one heavy defeat away from being properly exposed.
People don't get the extent of the problem just yet....watch for the tipping point
With our poor record against Collingwood a heavy defeat could be on the cards.
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I love the smell of rebuild in the morning
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I love the smell of rebuild in the morning
:snidegrin
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I've been saying we are in big trouble for a 6 weeks based on our list. It's very much one heavy defeat away from being properly exposed.
People don't get the extent of the problem just yet....watch for the tipping point
Hey Dooks. We have had the same list since November last year. Why did you only start notifying us about it 6 weeks ago? :whistle
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I've been saying we are in big trouble for a 6 weeks based on our list. It's very much one heavy defeat away from being properly exposed.
People don't get the extent of the problem just yet....watch for the tipping point
Hey Dooks. We have had the same list since November last year. Why did you only start notifying us about it 6 weeks ago? :whistle
I am but only one man for so many pairs of ears....my work is almost done here
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I love the smell of rebuild in the morning
:lol :clapping
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I've been saying we are in big trouble for a 6 weeks based on our list. It's very much one heavy defeat away from being properly exposed.
People don't get the extent of the problem just yet....watch for the tipping point
Hey Dooks. We have had the same list since November last year. Why did you only start notifying us about it 6 weeks ago? :whistle
Probably because he was expecting (hoping?) for improvement like all clubs strive for over the pre season. Just turns out Dimma remained crap
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I've been saying we are in big trouble for a 6 weeks based on our list. It's very much one heavy defeat away from being properly exposed.
People don't get the extent of the problem just yet....watch for the tipping point
Hey Dooks. We have had the same list since November last year. Why did you only start notifying us about it 6 weeks ago? :whistle
Probably because he was expecting (hoping?) for improvement like all clubs strive for over the pre season. Just turns out Dimma remained crap
Because, to give an educated analysis of the situation intelligent people usually do that.
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Many questions. I'll break it down so that the great unwashed that drift in and out of the forum obtain a glimpse of enlightenment.
I do this thing, you see. It's called "thinking".
Hopefully that isn't too heavy going for people to understand.
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I've been saying we are in big trouble for a 6 weeks based on our list. It's very much one heavy defeat away from being properly exposed.
People don't get the extent of the problem just yet....watch for the tipping point
Hey Dooks. We have had the same list since November last year. Why did you only start notifying us about it 6 weeks ago? :whistle
Probably because he was expecting (hoping?) for improvement like all clubs strive for over the pre season. Just turns out Dimma remained crap
Because, to give an educated analysis of the situation intelligent people usually do that.
My point exactly
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Many questions. I'll break it down so that the great unwashed that drift in and out of the forum obtain a glimpse of enlightenment.
I do this thing, you see. It's called "thinking".
Hopefully that isn't too heavy going for people to understand.
If I worked it out last November, does that make me a genius?
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Many questions. I'll break it down so that the great unwashed that drift in and out of the forum obtain a glimpse of enlightenment.
I do this thing, you see. It's called "thinking".
Hopefully that isn't too heavy going for people to understand.
If I worked it out last November, does that make me a genius?
I'll think about it
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I dont think Deledio will play
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We may play like crap most of the time.
We may lose this game.
And sometimes I bag the Tigers for being so crap after a crappy game.
But my passion for MY TIGERS will never stop, waver or diminish and will never be in doubt.
We will win tomorrow and I will always believe that we can win, it's just the way it is for me.
:lol :cheers :bow :gotigers :thumbsup :bow :lol
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I dont think Deledio will play
Bojo's mail? :shh
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Trained well today and looked a certain starter in my opinion. Unless he pulls up very sore from today he will play.
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I dont think Deledio will play
Bojo's mail? :shh
:shh
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Truely believe that if we get a good win today we can get some confidence and beat port and Essendon, but probably lose to freo leaving us 5-5 going Into the bye. Really important game.
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Truely believe that if we get a good win today we can get some confidence and beat port and Essendon, but probably lose to freo leaving us 5-5 going Into the bye. Really important game.
Don't get too excited Nick
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Not excited at all hahah. Just optimistic mate ;) :gotigers
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Love an upset win today but just honestly can't see it. In fact, I can see this getting ugly very quickly. The Pies are rebuilding and are just a middle-of-the-road side but they are a team that does the basics well, has leg speed, and gut runs hard off the ball for each other to create options for the ballcarrier. All three key parts of the game we are poor at. If we were to win the contested footy and clearances today then we'll stay in the game for logner but if the Pies get on top of the midfield then they will cut us to pieces which is what has happened in virtually every game over the past 8 years :(.
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Rushed point to us.
Blow the siren :snidegrin.
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Why would you handball to a flat-footed Maric in defence? :facepalm.
Elton on Cloke :o
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Great footskills inside 50 :banghead
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Brandon, we're the guys wearing yellow and black!
Two Collingwood goals thanks to rebounding from our poor kicks going into our forward line :banghead.
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Rance in middle again. Backline keep leaving lose man behind play.
:banghead
If I can see it surely Hardwick can see it.
What is wrong with this bloke.
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Geez.
Strategically, it an LOL Fest
GO RANCEY!!!!!!!! :snidegrin
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Blokes like Hunt and Ellis ARE stuffn KILLING US.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Big loss and hardwick sacked please
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The defensive set up is as bad as anything you'll ever see...
Hardwick has lost the plot the players and the supporters.
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they [Pies] are a team that does the basics well, has leg speed, and gut runs hard off the ball for each other to create options for the ballcarrier. All three key parts of the game we are poor at.
Bump.
Seriously, this is plain embarrassing. Like an AFL side playing under 10s skill-wise.
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McBean marks on the lead (we actually hit a forward target). First shot though is wide and OOTF :P.
2 - 20
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We are so slow in the mind :banghead
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The defensive set up is as bad as anything you'll ever see...
Hardwick has lost the plot the players and the supporters.
Right.
lost me 18 months ago
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3 turnovers by Brandon so far that's cost us two goals. What's with him trying to kick low bullet short passes through traffic with every kick.
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He's poo plus the coaches directive
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24 down, all over.
I called this about Ellis last year and the year before but again I was berated!! His crap disposals kills us.
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This is crap stuff this poo :banghead :banghead :banghead
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How bout rance on cloke.
Morris on Elliot
Elton a chb.
Duck me...... I hope we get pumped Hardwick gone. I've had it.
This is a freaking joke to say the least.
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Got to love our lack of awareness :facepalm.
Anyway we get a breakout, almost stuff it but Vickery goals.
Rich 8
Coll 27
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Reckon Tybone is giving me a good feeling today....
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1/4 time
Richmond 1.2-8
Coll'wodd 4.4-28
Goal: Vickery
Summary: Pathetic. Training drill for the Pies. Lucky to be only 20 pts down.
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1/4 time
Richmond 1.2-8
Coll'wodd 4.4-28
Goal: Vickery
Summary: Pathetic. Training drill for the Pies. Lucky to be only 20 pts down.
all of their goals are from out patheticness.
they are not even that good
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Not one player who really looks confident in general play, just kick and hope style play, very poor again inside 50 and the Pies already have 3 goals from turnovers.
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We have won contested ball 30 to 25. Shouldn't that mean we win Damien?
Clueless 1 dimensional coach. Contested ball means nothing if you can't do anything else at least half right..
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How do you stuffing stop griggy?
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LOL. How are we just 14 pts down?!
Grigg goal.
14 - 28
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watch the difference in the way they use handballs compared to us...and try not to spew up.
two real goal kicking opportunities came from kicking the ball long and quick into the forward line, yet hardwick has drilled into these guys to pointlessly handball rather than do this
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Set play by Morris..... Dimma :bow
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Oh Morris. Lucky there. McIntosh goal :gotigers
Rich 20
Coll 28
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We are winning the free kick count. :cheers :santa :gotigers :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Benny Ellis, we're back baby :shh
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Ellis (B version) actually did something right lol. Goal :gotigers
Rich 26
Coll 28
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Ivvy like a Sunday afternoon!
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:rollin Maric on the run goal.
We're in front! :gobdrop
Rich 32
Coll 28
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SO WHERE HAS THIS BEEN????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Captains gooooooal!!!
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Lmaooooo
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Okay Cotch. These are the ones you've missed twice this year. Didn't today. Finally got that Captain's goal :gotigers
Rich 38
Coll 28
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Cotchin - captain's goal at last.
What the stuff is wrong with them?
This should be the effing standard.
FMD I didn't even bother going today. If I'd known they felt like having a crack I woulda gone...
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Captains gooooooal!!!
!!!!!!!!!
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We go direct and quick = 6 goals.
Go sideways across defence in traffic = gift Collingwood a goal :banghead. Poor decision making Cotch.
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WELL DONE CAPTAIN
rubbish usual kick from cothin gifts them a goal.
momentum killer
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Okay Cotch. These are the ones you've missed twice this year. Didn't today. Finally got that Captain's goal :gotigers
Rich 38
Coll 28
Only because a captain kicked it.
A captains goal is one that's kicked under more inspirational circumstances
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Captains point
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Captains point
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Cotch free and 50m. Shot from 45m out. Misses.
We get it back and Lids snaps a long point.
40 - 47
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Hunt crosses and it almost floats through. Point.
41 - 47
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Captains point
Stuffing best Cha to it. Jaaaaack!!!!
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Hunt finds Jack on the lead 40m out. Goal :gotigers
Scores level.
Rich 47
Coll 47
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Great goal Jack :gotigers.
Back in front.
Rich 53
Coll 47
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Bag that goal mudda stuffffffaasaaa
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Some of our confidence is back. Even TV is kicking straight :gotigers.
Rich 59
Coll 47
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Reckon Tybone is giving me a good feeling today....
Stuffing buuuuumped ;D
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Now they'll talk about it at half time and not know what happened but will think they're going to go on with it.
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Well, that was fun :snidegrin
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8 quarter goal. It's not a hard game when you get the ball moving forward and quickly and put the opposition defence under pressure.
Half-time
Richmond 1.2 9.5-59
Coll'wood 4.4 7.5-47
Goals: Riewoldt 2, Vickery 2, Cotchin, Maric, Grigg, McIntosh, B.Ellis
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This is the hardest and most persistent at going after the pill that I have seen for a long time.
Looks good thus far.
:gotigers
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Well, that was fun :snidegrin
Only Richmond gives you putrid U10s one qtr followed by a high-pressure 8 goal-a-thon the next :snidegrin
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFL7FpVWgAAg0Qs.png)
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How many will the pies kick when we have our 3rd quarter lapse?
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The defensive set up is as bad as anything you'll ever see...
Hardwick has lost the plot the players and the supporters.
Really you seem to have an agenda
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How many will the pies kick when we have our 3rd quarter lapse?
I refuse to believe that we will have a bad 3rd quarter again, if we keep going hard and direct we WILL win this quarter.
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How many will the pies kick when we have our 3rd quarter lapse?
I refuse to believe that we will have a bad 3rd quarter again, if we keep going hard and direct we WILL win this quarter.
The Pies will come out hard in the first 5-10 mins after a rev up as most sides do after half-time when they are trailing. It's up to us to keep up our intensity and match theirs and keep the scoreboard ticking over with goals. Only if we stupidly go back into our shells and play slow sideways & backwards footy will they get a run on.
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Important first goal of the qtr to Grigg :gotigers. Geez, we give ourselves heart failure handballing in defence.
Rich 65
Coll 47
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk :gotigers
Rich 71
Coll 47
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Important first goal of the qtr to Grigg :gotigers. Geez, we give ourselves heart failure handballing in defence.
Rich 65
Coll 47
Yeah I agree stop friggin hand ballin so much
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Here come the umps to save the Pies :whistle.
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Everytime we stuff around going chip chip we cough it up.
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Back to moronic slow don't go forward chip chip footy :banghead
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So you can now tackle someone front on around the head ::)
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martin is having a shocker. stuff me
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Turnovers killing us as usual, cannot string more than 2 possessions together coming out of defensive 50 without an error. Look very tired, feel we will get overrun here.
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Touched ball is a mark? ::)
Pies now in front.
71 - 73
Geez we have some dumb footballers.
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Captain's goal ;D :gotigers
Back in front.
Rich 77
Coll 73
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Closer to a captains goal but only because he's been so bad
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We're making Crisp look like Pendlebury :banghead. Who is on him?
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Lids misses.
78 - 79
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:banghead
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Lucky there. How can you kick it OOTF from there?! :lol. We'll take it.
3/4 time
Richmond 1.2 9.5 12.6-78
Coll'wood 4.4 7.5 12.7-79
Goals: Riewoldt 3, Vickery 2, Cotchin 2, Grigg 2, McIntosh, Maric, B.Ellis
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Too many dumb lazy mistakes that quarter. Too slow going forward even though they are playing a spare man in defence. Midfield and forward line had no idea what the other one was doing.
Menadue subbed on.
McBean subbed off :huh3.
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Batch doesn't win a lot of one on one's does he.
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Menadue with his first kick and shot at goal. Misses.
79 - 81
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Dusty around his body from 50m and misses.
80 - 81
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Cheap shot off the ball Cloke against Grimes.
We get it to Lids on the lead. Goalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll :gotigers
Rich 86
Coll 81
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Lidsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss :gotigers
Rich 92
Coll 81
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Morris if you're going to charge in then go the body or ball. Not your teammate or an opponent's head.
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How can you have no one forward and no one back on the Pies rebound? :banghead. Where's the structure Richmond?
Pies in front.
92 - 94
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GET IN BLOODY FRONT! :banghead
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Turn around Vickery! Open man in the square and he turns his back. Better kick it now.
Thank god! Goal :gotigers
Rich 98
Coll 94
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk :gotigers
Rich 104
Coll 94
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No left foot Brandon.
105 - 94
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Heart Failure Utd :snidegrin
Final Score
Richmond 1.2 9.5 12.6 16.9-105
Coll'wood 5.1 7.5 12.7 15.10-100
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Cotch Rance lids Ivan.
Great.
Martin poo
Well done kids
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Great effort Tiggers. Very entertaining game of foozball :snidegrin
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:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :bow :bow :cheers :cheers :cheers :lol :rollin :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
That should cover how I feel.
:gotigers :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Well done, tigers. That's all we want, an effort..........and a win.
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Suck it up pies. Good win.
Cotchin back to his scintillating form. Welcome back!
Grigg almost bog. Wow
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after trying to create turnovers with stupid, pointless handballs about a dozen times in the first they only hand balled to stationary players facing away from goal 5-6 times for the rest of match.
The scoreboard pretty much tells the result of this
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If any Tiger supporter has no emotion and passion for the Tigers after that great effort then you need a hard look at yourself.
I will never stop being passionate about the Tigers, and trust me I've tried cos they drive me insane so many times.
:gotigers
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L,ao@hardwick feeling the pressure on his lack of game day prowess and putting Rance on the ball.
Genius.
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L,ao@hardwick feeling the pressure on his lack of game day prowess and putting Rance on the ball.
Genius.
Give it a rest.
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L,ao@hardwick feeling the pressure on his lack of game day prowess and putting Rance on the ball.
Genius.
Give it a rest.
Yep good call (•))(©™ :thumbsup
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24 down, all over.
I thought the same thing WAT but luckily I didn't get on and post it. Now it's you with the egg on your face! :whistle ;D
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L,ao@hardwick feeling the pressure on his lack of game day prowess and putting Rance on the ball.
Genius.
Give it a rest.
You mean, don't talk about things that you don't like, right?
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Good win today! One noticeable difference was that we didn't kick across goal around the HB line unless it was very safe to do so. We went from the stuff up to the wing instead of trying to centre it & offer up a turnover opportunity. Did we actually learn something from last week? Our field kicking was generally good even if it was a bit predictable, we hit more targets than we missed, for a change ... we did some the simple things very well & look what happened! :gotigers
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Yes good win. Glad I called it...initially. ;D
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L,ao@hardwick feeling the pressure on his lack of game day prowess and putting Rance on the ball.
Genius.
Give it a rest.
You mean, don't talk about things that you don't like, right?
Not in such tedium.
You're posts used to be funny, now their just vitriolic.
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Good win today! One noticeable difference was that we didn't kick across goal around the HB line unless it was very safe to do so. We went from the stuff up to the wing instead of trying to centre it & offer up a turnover opportunity. Did we actually learn something from last week? Our field kicking was generally good even if it was a bit predictable, we hit more targets than we missed, for a change ... we did some the simple things very well & look what happened! :gotigers
I'll tell you WHY they'll never learn anything under dimmer.
Because he thinks they already know everything but just don't apply it all the time, thus his usual "we're a better side than that"
He'd be thinking, tonight, how it all just came together today....because he already thinks they're a better side than they are.
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L,ao@hardwick feeling the pressure on his lack of game day prowess and putting Rance on the ball.
Genius.
Give it a rest.
You mean, don't talk about things that you don't like, right?
Not in such tedium.
You're posts used to be funny, now their just vitriolic.
Not quite.
It's more that there is nothing funny about what they're doing.
How can one continually laugh at the spoilt, rich kid with autism ?
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L,ao@hardwick feeling the pressure on his lack of game day prowess and putting Rance on the ball.
Genius.
Give it a rest.
You mean, don't talk about things that you don't like, right?
Not in such tedium.
You're posts used to be funny, now their just vitriolic.
Not quite.
It's more that there is nothing funny about what they're doing.
How can one continually laugh at the spoilt, rich kid with autism ?
I have not enjoyed watching what they're doing either but it's taken me a while to realise that posting on here will not see us achieve the results we all want.
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But it passes the time as the individual requires and enables us to validate our own worst fears, ie - we are a basket case.
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But it passes the time as the individual requires and enables us to validate our own worst fears, ie - we are a basket case.
And it's cathartic.
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Where has this effort been all year?
Chasing and tackling and competing.
This is the kind of performance that beats teams like Melbourne. Would have beaten Geelong. And certainly pushed North/Doggies.
This kind of football would have us sitting at least 5-2 instead of 3-4.
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Don't under estimate Corey Ellis's game today, couple of very clever possessions where other players in the side probably would have turned the ball over, has a football brain unlike some of his team mates.
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Cotchin - captain's goal at last.
What the stuff is wrong with them?
This should be the effing standard.
FMD I didn't even bother going today. If I'd known they felt like having a crack I woulda gone...
Whats wrong is that they cant play to the standard consistently even during the course of the same game let alone an entire season. We kick goals get on a run ... then we let the other side back in ... for all that today was a good win. I thought we would lose by 7 or 8 goals. I don't understand what Hardwick is doing, why is the premier key defender in the AFL starting up the ground, we gave Collingwood a 3 goal head start for nothing. I have lost all faith in Hardwick and his coaching panel.
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Cotchin - captain's goal at last.
What the stuff is wrong with them?
This should be the effing standard.
FMD I didn't even bother going today. If I'd known they felt like having a crack I woulda gone...
Whats wrong is that they cant play to the standard consistently even during the course of the same game let alone an entire season. We kick goals get on a run ... then we let the other side back in ... for all that today was a good win. I thought we would lose by 7 or 8 goals. I don't understand what Hardwick is doing, why is the premier key defender in the AFL starting up the ground, we gave Collingwood a 3 goal head start for nothing. I have lost all faith in Hardwick and his coaching panel.
That's right.
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Don't under estimate Corey Ellis's game today, couple of very clever possessions where other players in the side probably would have turned the ball over, has a football brain unlike some of his team mates.
Smooth mover is Corey. I twice mistook him for Cotchin.
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Kicking for goal was much better today.
All the "crunch time" goals were kicked - unlike in previous weeks .
At last - we finally beat a boogey team
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Dimmer's nature ensures he chases the rock star move, the big one out of left field.
Apparently he suggested something of such a nature when he was assisting Clarkson and was applauded.
He believes it to be "His Thang"
God help us
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But it passes the time as the individual requires and enables us to validate our own worst fears, ie - we are a basket case.
And it's cathartic.
Mormon, actually
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thought our leaders were terrific in clutch moments today, deledio with some goals, cotchin in the last 10 minutes lifted, riewoldt was great, maric battled manfully. Good effort from the leadership today.
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thought our leaders were terrific in clutch moments today, deledio with some goals, cotchin in the last 10 minutes lifted, riewoldt was great, maric battled manfully. Good effort from the leadership today.
why cant they do that more consistently.
gee it was good to watch from all those you have mentioned
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I think what it was, was they pretended to be men today because Chaplin said they had to
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Just got home from the Victory game :) holy poo Richmond won too :gobdrop
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Colonwood were crap
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Colonwood were crap
So I take it Collingwood lost the game more than we earnt the win?
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Nah, they went ok. :snidegrin
But colonwood are still crap.
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First quarter they almost went goal less again
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What about our 2q, our set players worked a treat :shh
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Colonwood were crap
So I take it Collingwood lost the game more than we earnt the win?
We played well Dooks, usual brain farts but with some good footy mixed in. Back to being a 7-10 side
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I just wanna say.........
Great win Tigers.. Eat 'Em Alive!
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VIDEOS:
Highlights: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-05-17/round-7-highlights
Team Song: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2015-05-17/team-song-richmond
PICS:
Getty Images: http://www.gettyimages.com.au/search/events/535977611?editorialproduct=sport
AFL Photos: http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202015%20Rd%2007%20-%20Richmond%20v%20Collingwood
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2015/05/17/373940.jpg)
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My thoughts as to the game today.
I only saw the last quarter so that's the caveat on these remarks.
Cotch got a lot of the ball, their tag was ineffective. This may be the biggest factor in our good performance.
Bounces and stoppages are still woeful.
Mackintosh hacks the ball forward too much
Our game seems fragile because we have to get it into the right peoples hands in the forward 50. Jack, lids today.
Vickery did the right thing taking the kick from 30 m out to put us in front.
We still do silly hand passes to people because they are name players, not because it's sensible.
At 16 goals 9 we kicked very straight. I think it was the lack of pressure. At 15 goals 10 collingwood kicked very well too. I think it was the lack of pressure.
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My thoughts as to the game today.
I only saw the last quarter so that's the caveat on these remarks.
Cotch got a lot of the ball, their tag was ineffective. This may be the biggest factor in our good performance.
Bounces and stoppages are still woeful.
Mackintosh hacks the ball forward too much
Our game seems fragile because we have to get it into the right peoples hands in the forward 50. Jack, lids today.
Vickery did the right thing taking the kick from 30 m out to put us in front.
We still do silly hand passes to people because they are name players, not because it's sensible.
At 16 goals 9 we kicked very straight. I think it was the lack of pressure. At 15 goals 10 collingwood kicked very well too. I think it was the lack of pressure.
Word
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My thoughts as to the game today.
I only saw the last quarter so that's the caveat on these remarks.
Cotch got a lot of the ball, their tag was ineffective. This may be the biggest factor in our good performance.
Bounces and stoppages are still woeful.
Mackintosh hacks the ball forward too much
Our game seems fragile because we have to get it into the right peoples hands in the forward 50. Jack, lids today.
Vickery did the right thing taking the kick from 30 m out to put us in front.
We still do silly hand passes to people because they are name players, not because it's sensible.
At 16 goals 9 we kicked very straight. I think it was the lack of pressure. At 15 goals 10 collingwood kicked very well too. I think it was the lack of pressure.
Some obscure conclusions but you get that from watching 1/4 of the game ::)
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Few things to add:
Wonder what was wrong with Pendlebury, we didn't tag him and he got 18 possessions? Was he injured? Got lucky there, probably his worst game for 5 years.
Toovey going down early helped.
Chaplin is a cheat. Plays loose man and so many times Elton had to cover for him. More interested in being the 'switcher' of the ball than defending. We have lost out massively with this idiot.
Too many times Pies had a lose man in their forward line, generally from having 1 behind the ball who drifted forward into midfield which allowed someone in the midfield to sneak forward. Chaplin being 'loose man' never switched on. Only till Rance went back there to call him out on it on numerous occasions. Watch the replay I could name at least 4 goals from having someone drift down into forward line without a man. = Port will do this and destroy us if we let them.
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Wonder what was wrong with Pendlebury, we didn't tag him and he got 18 possessions? Was he injured? Got lucky there, probably his worst game for 5 years.
Carrying an ankle injury according to Pie fans.
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Cotchin played his best game for the season. He stood up when it counted. Thought Grimes played well. Prepared to give credit where credit is due Houli and Grigg played good games. Corey Ellis and McBean showed they are not out of place playing AFL football. The decision not to play Rance on Cloke immediately was stupidity. B Ellis needs to work on his efforts off the ball. Was not at all impressed by his game nor that of Hunt's.
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Chaplin is a cheat. Plays loose man and so many times Elton had to cover for him. More interested in being the 'switcher' of the ball than defending. We have lost out massively with this idiot.
Like it or not that is his role. Not saying I agree with it but that is his role. And considering it's his he does it well, certainly did yesterday. But in the last when he needed to compete and be 3rd man he did
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What a game. After being dragged there by my family which they regretted & l enjoyed watching their team get beaten :snidegrin
l was happy l never missed out. Was one of the best games between these 2 fumbling sides l been too & the Tiger supporters really woke up & cheered the team over the line. Just over 59,000 which is getting smaller & smaller for these 2 big clubs was very disappointing but we out numbered them :thumbsup It was a day when our senior players all stood up & l think this young side stunned the filthy Mudpies to defeat. We need to get alot better but it was a great win & the roar made my day. ;D :gotigers
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Mackintosh hacks the ball forward too much
His ordinary & thoughtless disposal was a big part of why I never rated him in the VFL, but at AFL level and in our team with it's often stagnant gamestyle, I appreciate the way he's at least one that's always taking the game on and trying to move the ball forward.
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Mackintosh hacks the ball forward too much
His ordinary & thoughtless disposal was a big part of why I never rated him in the VFL, but at AFL level and in our team with it's often stagnant gamestyle, I appreciate the way he's at least one that's always taking the game on and trying to move the ball forward.
Yeah he's not exactly a thinker out there but I enjoy his direct approach. Brings desperately needed speed. An improved game after a down couple weeks is good to see.
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My thoughts as to the game today.
I only saw the last quarter so that's the caveat on these remarks.
Cotch got a lot of the ball, their tag was ineffective. This may be the biggest factor in our good performance.
Bounces and stoppages are still woeful.
Mackintosh hacks the ball forward too much
Our game seems fragile because we have to get it into the right peoples hands in the forward 50. Jack, lids today.
Vickery did the right thing taking the kick from 30 m out to put us in front.
We still do silly hand passes to people because they are name players, not because it's sensible.
At 16 goals 9 we kicked very straight. I think it was the lack of pressure. At 15 goals 10 collingwood kicked very well too. I think it was the lack of pressure.
Some obscure conclusions but you get that from watching 1/4 of the game ::)
Not conclusions, just notes of that quarter.
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Coaches' votes (Hardwick & Buckley)
9 Trent Cotchin (Rich)
7 Brett Deledio (Rich)
7 Dane Swan (Coll)
5 Shaun Grigg (Rich)
1 Ivan Maric (Rich)
1 Jack Riewoldt (Rich)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-18/aflca-votes-round-seven
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Did anyone hear Dan Richardson on MMM before the game on Sunday?
He basically said the year we picked Conca, that pick 6 was basically a pick in the late teens due to the two new sides. It goes to show how delusional they are at Tigerland if they are still talking about that. The fact that FJ chose Conca over Heppel is the part they should be worried about.
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Yep I heard it BT and it was cringeworthy stuff
Another dud employee is Dan
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x2.
There have been times when I've wondered if I was being too harsh on him.
Then I hear him interviewed.
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What a joke...
It's not that Conca (6) was a 'late pick' due to the concessions. The problem is that we took Conca over:
Heppell (8th)
Dion Prestia (9)
Tom Lynch (11)
Brodie Smith (14)
Isaac Smith (19)
Jack Darling (26)
All players we would be MUCH better off with.
Jake Batchelor (30) instead of:
Josh Green (32)
Luke Parker (40) - stuff
Brad Helbig instead of:
Cameron O'Shea (52)
Alex Johnson (57)
Tom Derickx (63) instead of:
Paul Puopolo (66)
Matt Spangher (73)
Paul Seedsman (76)
So either we just can't develop blokes to save our lives or we can't pick good players any deeper than the top 10 or so picks.
Imagine if we had taken:
Lynch
Parker
Johnson
Puopolo
We would have a genuine KPF, a AA midfielder, a solid half-back flanker and a very serviceable small forward.
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We could have had Buddy
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We could have had Buddy
Why stop there?
We could have had Pav.
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We could have had Buddy
Why stop there?
We could have had Pav.
What about Fyfe
Imagine that
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What a joke...
It's not that Conca (6) was a 'late pick' due to the concessions. The problem is that we took Conca over:
Heppell (8th)
Dion Prestia (9)
Tom Lynch (11)
Brodie Smith (14)
Isaac Smith (19)
Jack Darling (26)
All players we would be MUCH better off with.
Jake Batchelor (30) instead of:
Josh Green (32)
Luke Parker (40) - stuff
Brad Helbig instead of:
Cameron O'Shea (52)
Alex Johnson (57)
Tom Derickx (63) instead of:
Paul Puopolo (66)
Matt Spangher (73)
Paul Seedsman (76)
So either we just can't develop blokes to save our lives or we can't pick good players any deeper than the top 10 or so picks.
Imagine if we had taken:
Lynch
Parker
Johnson
Puopolo
We would have a genuine KPF, a AA midfielder, a solid half-back flanker and a very serviceable small forward.
It just goes to show if you can get even one draft right, you can turn things around very very quickly. You put a mix of the players we could have taken in stead of who we did take and we could be easily a top four side.
Drafting is by far the most important thing a football department needs to get right to be a good side. It's sound like common sense and yet we still employ a guy that has had way to many misses. I really don't understand how he is still in a job. The RFC has been a middling side at best through his years at the club, how does that not tell people we need to try someone else????
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Would have could have should have
That type of analysis is probably on every other footy sides fan forum, it's not hard
A pick a dud on the list
B go through the drafts choices after that until you find a decent player
At least go for something original or that requires some sort of thought process
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We have never got one draft completely right, mostly right or even half right. We either nail our first pick and waste the rest, or waste the whole lot.
Many other clubs tend to do what we do but they also get the draft half right or mostly right. That's the difference
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It's a combination of development and recruiting.
I have mentioned this before you go into a season adding to your coaching panel not reducing as we have done the last 3 years
I wouldn't stop at just draft picks check out our rookie draft. That's scary how pathetic we are and how good some clubs are at it
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Would have could have should have
That type of analysis is probably on every other footy sides fan forum, it's not hard
A pick a dud on the list
B go through the drafts choices after that until you find a decent player
At least go for something original or that requires some sort of thought process
I think the point is, the players we talk about in hindsight were available at our pick. Not that hard to imagine we could have actually picked them if only we had a guy that could identify talent.
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We have never got one draft completely right, mostly right or even half right. We either nail our first pick and waste the rest, or waste the whole lot.
Many other clubs tend to do what we do but they also get the draft half right or mostly right. That's the difference
Conca over Heppel, no one in the entire footy world would have done that!
Not only did FJ make that mistake, he has been ultra conservative since with that first round pick.
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We have never got one draft completely right, mostly right or even half right. We either nail our first pick and waste the rest, or waste the whole lot.
Many other clubs tend to do what we do but they also get the draft half right or mostly right. That's the difference
Conca over Heppel, no one in the entire footy world would have done that!
Not only did FJ make that mistake, he has been altar conservative since with that first round pick.
I have to agree. And you're right. It was publicly known at the time that Heppell was the most talented pick at our pick, but with an injury cloud. Conca was rated 10-20. Didn't stop Essendon swooping. I wonder who did their due diligence on Heppell and who didn't? Was a medical even done?
Where is the paperwork on the decision, and others. Would love this to be released as part of member pressure. There is currently no accountability or transparency.
It's a double edged sword missing good players too. Not only do you not strengthen your own list, you make other clubs lists stronger. The repeated butchering of draft picks over each 5-7 year era of football has been a gift to many other clubs in strengthening and completing their lists, which contributes to these clubs owning us on the field.
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I guess my main point is that you can clearly get talent at least three rounds into the draft.
Yet here we are wondering if first round picks like Vickery, Conca and Lennon will make it. Even B Ellis and Vlastuin seem to have stopped developing.
Disastrous drafting/development.
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I guess my main point is that you can clearly get talent at least three rounds into the draft.
Yet here we are wondering if first round picks like Vickery, Conca and Lennon will make it. Even B Ellis and Vlastuin seem to have stopped developing.
Disastrous drafting/development.
All indications are that you are correct and will be probably proven even moreso in time
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There's no doubting it, FJ's record is poor and Gale needs to hold him to account.
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I guess my main point is that you can clearly get talent at least three rounds into the draft.
Yet here we are wondering if first round picks like Vickery, Conca and Lennon will make it. Even B Ellis and Vlastuin seem to have stopped developing.
Disastrous drafting/development.
Also how COnca will walk back into the squad as too will Newman.
Vickery already did.
Ellis and Vlaustin already guaranteed starters without any form.
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TV put on a clinic in the ressies before his return matey, 6 goals in two games ::)
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We have never got one draft completely right, mostly right or even half right. We either nail our first pick and waste the rest, or waste the whole lot.
Many other clubs tend to do what we do but they also get the draft half right or mostly right. That's the difference
Conca over Heppel, no one in the entire footy world would have done that!
Not only did FJ make that mistake, he has been altar conservative since with that first round pick.
I have to agree. And you're right. It was publicly known at the time that Heppell was the most talented pick at our pick, but with an injury cloud. Conca was rated 10-20. Didn't stop Essendon swooping. I wonder who did their due diligence on Heppell and who didn't? Was a medical even done?
Where is the paperwork on the decision, and others. Would love this to be released as part of member pressure. There is currently no accountability or transparency.
It's a double edged sword missing good players too. Not only do you not strengthen your own list, you make other clubs lists stronger. The repeated butchering of draft picks over each 5-7 year era of football has been a gift to many other clubs in strengthening and completing their lists, which contributes to these clubs owning us on the field.
What other clubs release paperwork on their drafting?
Actually thought we did a couple of presentations to our "inner sanctum" supporters a few years ago? Maybe this stopped because we stuffed it up?
Anyways, I'm keen to see how this batch go - Menadue, Ellis, Butler etc