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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 17, 2015, 08:52:21 PM
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Houli copped a knock to his shoulder but played out the game. Other than that I think everyone else got through unscathed.
So fire away with your changes for next week, if any?
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Clearly Newman must come back......
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In:
Griff
Out:
McBean
Would love to see McBean stay in and Vickery go out but it probably sends a poor message dropping Ty after he actually put in today. I'm sure it will be a matter of time before he has a stinker again and hopefully we will see McBean again soon. Would also love to see McDonough come in for Morris but that's extremely unlikely.
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If Griff comes in for anyone it should be Elton.
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If Griff comes in for anyone it should be Elton.
Disagree. We need to keep playing Elton down back. He needs the confidence. He is a huge unit which we lack down back. Griff in for maybe Menadue. We need to be bigger against Port and stretch them.
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If Griff comes in for anyone it should be Elton.
Can you play Griff, Vickery, Bean and Jack?
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If Griff comes in for anyone it should be Elton.
Can you play Griff, Vickery, Bean and Jack?
Bean plays small so I think we can fit them all in.
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If Griff comes in for anyone it should be Elton.
Can you play Griff, Vickery, Bean and Jack?
Bean plays small so I think we can fit them all in.
I'd have real concerns that Port would murder us on the rebound.
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If Griff comes in for anyone it should be Elton.
Can you play Griff, Vickery, Bean and Jack?
Bean plays small so I think we can fit them all in.
I'd have real concerns that Port would murder us on the rebound.
Some here would fervently hope so as they could peddle their poo for a week
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If Griff comes in for anyone it should be Elton.
Can you play Griff, Vickery, Bean and Jack?
Bean plays small so I think we can fit them all in.
We went small in the final last year and they killed us on the rebound as we didn't have enough players that could mark the ball in attack…..
I'd have real concerns that Port would murder us on the rebound.
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In: Edwards, Griffiths, Dea
Out: Batchelor
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In: Edwards, Griffiths, Dea
Out: Batchelor
Agreed, Batchelor was horrible today.
Play Dea FFS.
We played 4 guys today with 2 games experience between them. Work it out Dimma, these guys like Batch are holding us back, Dea is twice the footballer that Batch will ever be.
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Out: Morris
In: Edwards if not - Conca or McDonough. Both were reasonably good today, McDonough would walk in if he kicked the winning goal. Was very good in the 2nd half.
If we can elevate Short off the rookie list I'd try him as a small forward. Morris adds nothing. If we move Morris into the 2s we've finally gotten rid of the passenger army of Newman, Petterd, Lloyd, Gordon and Morris.
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IMO Batchelor is the worst player I have seen in a Tigers jumper for 5 years. He gives nothing to our side. He is hard at he footy that I love but he is below AFL standard on every other skill that can be measured. We play one short with him in our back line. I hope Dimma realizes that sooner rather than later but I bet he will not be in the side at years end.
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watched some of the ressies game.Concas first 3 possesions were turnovers.
Batch has been ok so far this year,and to drop him after one poor game would be just dumb.
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IMO Batchelor is the worst player I have seen in a Tigers jumper for 5 years. He gives nothing to our side. He is hard at he footy that I love but he is below AFL standard on every other skill that can be measured. We play one short with him in our back line. I hope Dimma realizes that sooner rather than later but I bet he will not be in the side at years end.
I agree - I used to think Batchelor was serviceable - but he just has no class and is a real liability at times. A momentum killer. He and Morris are the two players that make my eyes bleed.
Dea has a bit of flare about him - give him a go..
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McDonuts looks like an option as small forward. Give him a crack
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Brenton Ellis, Hunt and Morris should be dropped after that game but won't be. Would rest Maric and bring in Griffiths. Griffiths and Vickery to share ruck duties. Leave McBean up forward. Consider bringing in McDonough and Conca.
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Correct me if i am wrong but wasn't McDonough a small forward as a junior? We try to turn players into something they are not, we don't have a specialist small forward so why not give him the opportunity.
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Correct me if i am wrong but wasn't McDonough a small forward as a junior? We try to turn players into something they are not, we don't have a specialist small forward so why not give him the opportunity.
:clapping
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INS: Edwards, Griffiths
OUTS: Menadue, McBean
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INS: Edwards, Griffiths
OUTS: Menadue, McBean
Sounds good to me.
:thumbsup
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Ins: More kids.
Outs: More old hacks.
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I seem to recall Port were way quicker than us last year and on the rebound we had no chance. I am a fraction hazy on how Menadue
went yesterday, did he have any chances to use his speed, would he be effective as a go to breakout plyer one up from kick ins?, Is Arnott able to get in the mix??
Agree that I would love to see McBean stay in I think he is a great foil for Jack, I know he didn't kick a goal BUT the opposition can't afford to leave him unmanned. I particularly liked the spread of him and Jack not falling over each other.
Was that planned? if not it should have been.
I would like to see Corey Ellis stay in as well.
Overall I think the team responded well to the changes on Sunday. It sent a clear message and gave our youngsters experience and opportunity.
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Batchlor needs his head chopped off. A stint back in the Reserves. Not fit enough & that makes him turn the ball over. Unless he is carrying some sort of injury or had touch of the flu yesterday, He made some horrible mistakes.
WP we need a emoticon of a axe chopping a chooks head off
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Batch is crap, simple, same as his brother Morris.
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No change! Although I would like Griffiths back in, but not at the expense of McBean. The Jack & the Beanstalk forward set up will work a treat for us, just be patient with the Bean, he will be worth it. Menadue will be needed for the foot speed. Vickery stays too, some of his ruck work was excellent, Elton had some average moments ... just wondering if Griff could play CHB/third tall defender? Batch wasn't brilliant either ... ::)
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No change! Although I would like Griffiths back in, but not at the expense of McBean. The Jack & the Beanstalk forward set up will work a treat for us, just be patient with the Bean, he will be worth it. Menadue will be needed for the foot speed. Vickery stays too, some of his ruck work was excellent, Elton had some average moments ... just wondering if Griff could play CHB/third tall defender? Batch wasn't brilliant either ... ::)
Don't really ever want to see Griff playing back again. Reacts too slowly down there. Think at this point Griff, Vickery and McBean are competing for 2 spots. McBean being unable to give Maric a chop out in the ruck means he starts behind.
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This is a hard one for me.
If fit Sheds has to definitely come in. In an ideal world he would come in for Morris. But It wouldn't be bad if he came in for Batchelor instead
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Leave McBean in - Vickery & Griffiths can fight it out for the third spot. Loser gets traded.
This is a hard one for me.
If fit Sheds has to definitely come in. In an ideal world he would come in for Morris. But It wouldn't be bad if he came in for Batchelor instead
Edwards in for Batchelor with Morris back to defence would be the logical option. Unfortunately there's no place for logic at Damien Hardwick's Richmond.
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If Griff comes in for anyone it should be Elton.
Can you play Griff, Vickery, Bean and Jack?
Bean plays small so I think we can fit them all in.
Plays small for a tall. Doesn't mean he can fill the void of a genuine small.
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If fit Griffith in for McBean.
Edwards in for Menadue with McIntosh getting a bit of a rest as sub.
Would really like to see McDonough in for Morris but it ain't gunna happen
Leave Elton in the back line for another game or two. I don't understand why Astbury was dropped but give him another game or two to get hungry.
Essentially no change except to bring in two regulars from injury while two kids have got a taste.
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Mind set, that is all!
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I'd be very disappointed if McBean goes out for Griffiths.
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The Barometer - Round 8
Herald-Sun
May 18, 2015
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: First-gamers Liam McBean (subbed off at three-quarter time) and Connor Menadue (subbed on) got a taste of AFL action but might go back to the VFL next week. Steve Morris was barely sighted on Sunday but we’ve put him in here most weeks this year and the coach hasn’t budged so don’t expect that to change.
ON THE CUSP: Ben Griffiths, who didn’t quite come up from concussion, and Shane Edwards, a late withdrawal, should come in - probably for McBean and Menadue. Matt McDonough was the clear standout in the VFL with 30 touches and three goals. Reece Conca was very busy and will be considered after working his way back from hamstring problems. Sam Lloyd and Nathan Gordon each kicked two goals but will have to wait.
AL PATON’S FORECAST: Punt Rd is a much happier place this week after a fantastic win releases the pressure valve on Damien Hardwick and his players. And what looked like a horror draw suddenly might not be so bad, with next week’s opponent Port Adelaide in a hole and Essendon (the week after) looking a long way off the team that defeated Hawthorn in Round 2. All three teams are 3-4 - the ladder is about to be shaped significantly. If the Tigers’ top tier - Cotchin, Deledio, Riewoldt, Maric - play like they did against the Pies, Richmond could go into its Round 11 bye on top of that bunch. But that’s a big if. And first the Tigers have to erase the memory of last year’s elimination final debacle. Kicking with the wind to start with might help.
http://www.news.com.au/national/adelaide-crows-injury-woes-fremantle-wake-up-call-in-round-7-the-barometer/story-e6frfkp9-1227358834113
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Out: Morris
Was a liability today. Shocking.
Even the assist for Riewoldt's sealing goal was fortunate because Marley Williams slipped.
Worst game of the year from Morris and the standard has been low all year. :help
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In the mix: round eight
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
May 19, 2015
Important midfielder Shane Edwards was declared a certain starter just hours after he was withdrawn late against Collingwood with a minor calf problem, so expect him to return against Port Adelaide.
Key forward Ben Griffiths will also be available after missing one match with concussion, meaning debutant Liam McBean could get just one taste at the top level for now.
It wouldn't surprise to also see tall defender David Astbury return this week to replace Todd Elton, but Reece Conca (22 possessions) might need another run in the VFL after one game in two weeks.
Matt McDonough continued his push for senior selection in the VFL with 30 possessions (19 contested), and three goals.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-19/in-the-mix-round-eight
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Really not sure where hardwick will go. Cant drop Ty as he actually played well.. Might make Griff earn his way back in by kicking a bag in the 2's as his goal kicking hadnt been fantastic. We need speed against port. Lots of forward pressure so they cant run it out. Can't afford 3 talls up forward imo. Expect morris to play up forward for the chase and pressure. wouldnt be surprised if only change is edwards for McBean.
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Easy call really.
In: Edwards, Griffiths
Out: Morris, McBean
Keep Menadue in as the sub.
Morris simply cannot be kept in the side after his start to the year.
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Very Simple
Morris Batchelor Vickery OUT
McDonough Edwards Griffith IN
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should leave in elton, mcbean
should rest maric at some stage so he doesnt break
should drop the duds as per usual chaplin, grigg
donuts got 30 touches? give him one game then drop him
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grigg was one of the better players, had a good game
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grigg was one of the better players, had a good game
yes so i keep reading
i would still like him sent to the knackery
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lol....drop chaplin????
for who?????????? astbury?
some muppets here make hardwick look like a supercoach
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lol....drop chaplin????
for who?????????? astbury?
some muppets here make hardwick look like a supercoach
Think you could substitute most for some
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Chaplin is a necessary evil.
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Just watched the replay again, Batch has to go.
Dea in for Batch
Edwards in for B. Ellis
With McIntosh the sub
Would be the way I'd go.
Just on Rance playing in the midfield, I don't mind it. IMO we are very light through there with Cotch, Miles, Edwards, Grigg and Ellis. We desparately need a bigger body in there. We are just too predictable.
So it's up to Elton, Grimes, Astbury and hopefully Dea to take the next step so we can let Rance give us another option in there.
I personally didn't think Cloke did anything too special in that first quarter, he took two marks on long leads up on the wing, which if he wants to get kicks up there so be it, and a mark on a lead that Rance wouldn't have stopped. I think our structure didn't help either with our flankers and pockets getting sucked up too far and not getting back quick enough.
I loved the way he isolated Lids deep too, he is a really hard match up when isolated.
I also noticed that McBean was unlucky with a few kicks to him dropping short, he lead well and I hope he keeps his spot. We just looked more dangerous with him moving around.
I'd like to see Edwards play a little more deep forward too. Our lack of a small forward really hurts us.
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so youre saying ellis isnt in our best 22 but dea astrury and mcintosh are....interesting
as for rance in the middle...even hardwick couldn't defend that move when asked why
personally i think vlas would be a better fit in the middle.....
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In mcdonough, edwards, griffiths(maybe)
Out morris, menedue, mcbean(maybe)
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Just watched the replay again, Batch has to go.
Dea in for Batch
Edwards in for B. Ellis
With McIntosh the sub
Would be the way I'd go.
Just on Rance playing in the midfield, I don't mind it. IMO we are very light through there with Cotch, Miles, Edwards, Grigg and Ellis. We desparately need a bigger body in there. We are just too predictable.
So it's up to Elton, Grimes, Astbury and hopefully Dea to take the next step so we can let Rance give us another option in there.
I personally didn't think Cloke did anything too special in that first quarter, he took two marks on long leads up on the wing, which if he wants to get kicks up there so be it, and a mark on a lead that Rance wouldn't have stopped. I think our structure didn't help either with our flankers and pockets getting sucked up too far and not getting back quick enough.
I loved the way he isolated Lids deep too, he is a really hard match up when isolated.
I also noticed that McBean was unlucky with a few kicks to him dropping short, he lead well and I hope he keeps his spot. We just looked more dangerous with him moving around.
I'd like to see Edwards play a little more deep forward too. Our lack of a small forward really hurts us.
Agree with you there.
I think with Maric, McBean, Vickery and Jack there is a lot of tall stuff to cover for opposition., With Rance running around in th emiddle of the ground it was an interesting change up, but we really needed him on 'the whinger cry baby' last week, at least Dimma worked that one out before the game was over.
To my mind Morris, while a terrier, just isn't versatile enough.
I think if we can bring in Griff, try McBean as a floater in the Riewoldt mould (if he is right footed play him left side and create some run, with Jack doing the same on the right side and Griff Vickery in the middle chopping out for Maric and creating more central movementI think it could possibly work.
What I like is that Griff, McBean, Jack and Vickery are reasonably mobile
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Chaplin is a necessary evil.
why?
astbury griffiths elton vickery
its a warehouse on non handicapped tall talent
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lol....drop chaplin????
for who?????????? astbury?
some muppets here make hardwick look like a supercoach
i forgot chaplin is an Adonis my mistake
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yeah you're right....silvagni....i mean astbury is heading for team of the century honors
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I've got a feeling that Shane Edwards will be named at centre half forward for his return game. :shh
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Titch and Griffs (if he gets through training) are the most likely ins according to Dimma.
Newy is still a week away while Conca will be given another week in the VFL.
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Lol, Vickery and Griffiths in the same forward line :banghead
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'Newy is still a week away'.....port must really feel like they dodged a bullet :huh
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Newy is still a week away
Oh joy....counting the days...
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Titch and Griffs (if he gets through training) are the most likely ins according to Dimma.
Newy is still a week away while Conca will be given another week in the VFL.
If McBean gets dropped after one game I'll refuse to go on Sunday. :shh
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so youre saying ellis isnt in our best 22 but dea astrury and mcintosh are....interesting
as for rance in the middle...even hardwick couldn't defend that move when asked why
personally i think vlas would be a better fit in the middle.....
Not sure how Astbury got included in that? You may need to read my post again.
But to answer your question, I'd play Dea and McIntosh before Ellis.. I've disliked the way Ellis plays since his debut.
So Edwards in for Ellis and Dea in for Batch. MiIntosh in the vest.
Not to difficult. :cheers
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In:
Griffiths
Edwards
Conca
Out:
McBean (unlucky for now)
Batchelor
Hunt
Menadue
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In:
Griffiths
Edwards
Conca
Out:
McBean (unlucky for now)
Batchelor
Hunt
Menadue
You that confident that you want us to go in 1 short? Two if Vickery stays in