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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 20, 2016, 02:28:51 PM
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Summary
OUT: Vickery, Deledio, 6, 46, 64
IN: Prestia, Caddy, Nankervis, 27, 56, 2017's 1st (Geelong) and 3rd (GWS) round picks.
We go into this year's draft with picks 27, 64 and 82.
How did we all rate our trade period?
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First up, shattered about Lids. I know it had to happen, but doesn't make it any easier.
Missed out on keeping that pick 6, which again is less than ideal. Our first pick is 27, so we're not getting a young jet.
I feel the Caddy deal took our trade period from mediocre to pretty solid. Both those guys that come in walk straight into our top 10 players, which can only been seen as a positive (not a difficult top 10 to break into though ;)).
Vickery for the 2nd rounder is a HUGE win.
Also, we brought in a Ruckman who likes to work hard after the bounce. Can't be a bad move?!
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Average - which is good for us....
...we still undervalue the draft and overrate our list.......
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Really disappointed with our position in this years draft 27,56 & 62 (I assume we will only have 3 picks). I just hope we get a good slider at 27.
Then you have the Carlton scum getting 3 young GWS players for not much.
On the flip side wrapped with the inclusions of Prestia, Caddy & Nankervis which fills needs
I will be happy when next year comes along and we have picks 4 & 10.
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The RFC can look forward to being slightly less mediocre next year. Ladder position 10-12...right in the 'sweet spot' they love so well.
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Summary
OUT: Vickery, Deledio, 6, 46, 64
IN: Prestia, Caddy, Nankervis, 27, 56, 2017's 1st (Geelong) and 3rd (GWS) round picks.
We go into this year's draft with picks 27, 64 and 82.
We got 56 didnt we??
How did we all rate our trade period?
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The RFC can look forward to being slightly less mediocre next year. Ladder position 10-12...right in the 'sweet spot' they love so well.
This...
We have had an average draft. Some wins (vickery, caddy, nankervis) then some misses (not picking up anyone with late picks, not trading away players with value and prestia for pick 6)
It astounds me they think that Jack needs no assistance up forward, but then again its the RFC
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So our outs are Deledio, Vickery, McBean, Chaplin , McKenzie & Marcon from the rookie list with Prestia, Caddy & Nankervis coming in....if we only use three picks in the draft, use one of those to upgrade Short and we only take one rookie there'll be no more delistings ....
Stabilty... :gotigers
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Prestia for effectively pick 6 is a concern. Not sold on this.
Happy with Caddy and Nankervis for the picks. Very happy.
Deledio for next years first rounder is good. Geelong should slide a little.
Looking thin in the kp areas. Alot of faith in Astbury and Griff and if they go down theres really nothing thats coming through (yet).
Overall pretty good but so far off a decent team its going to be another disappointing year.
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Prestia for effectively pick 6 is a concern. Not sold on this.
Happy with Caddy and Nankervis for the picks. Very happy.
Deledio for next years first rounder is good. Geelong should slide a little.
Looking thin in the kp areas. Alot of faith in Astbury and Griff and if they go down theres really nothing thats coming through (yet).
Overall pretty good but so far off a decent team its going to be another disappointing year.
To be clear guys, its effectively Prestia & Caddy for 6 and next years 2nd rounder.
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So our outs are Deledio, Vickery, McBean, Chaplin , McKenzie & Marcon from the rookie list with Prestia, Caddy & Nankervis coming in....if we only use three picks in the draft, use one of those to upgrade Short and we only take one rookie there'll be no more delistings ....
Stabilty... :gotigers
Actually...forgot about about dfa's.....hope Fremantle delist Barlow and we pick him up after we delist A.Moore...hell, I'd even give Dal Santo or Petrie a year ahead of Moore...
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Summary
OUT: Vickery, Deledio, 6, 46, 64
IN: Prestia, Caddy, Nankervis, 27, 56, 2017's 1st (Geelong) and 3rd (GWS) round picks.
We go into this year's draft with picks 27, 64 and 82.
How did we all rate our trade period?
My amateur summation.
2017 first round and third round are worth pick 6.
Picks 27 and 56 are worth TV and 46.
That effectively means we have traded Lids and 64 for Prestia, Caddy and Nankervis.
Seems very good to me, or am I missing something?
I know we have no early pick this year, but we have a first round next year locked in.
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Meh - no finals again
Getting rid of sideshow on a good note
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Pretty happy overall, our list has definitely improved, first pick at 27 is probably not the worst result as we generally stuff up our higher picks anyway so cant see how its really going to impact. Wishing the worst season ahead for the Cats and we are then in a prime postion in 2017.
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To be clear guys, its effectively Prestia & Caddy for 6 and next years 2nd rounder.
Prestia and Caddy for 6, next years 2nd rounder and 24
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Think there will be more "outs" between now and the draft
More delistings to come ;D
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Well we currently have two free spots, will probably upgrade Short and our 3rd pick is 84 or something - so presumably we are going to replace them with DFA's & state leaguers or upgrade more than one rookie and draft more rookies..
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Think there will be more "outs" between now and the draft
More delistings to come ;D
Let's hear your picks, Willow
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yeah WGAF not the ones that count like edwards, conca and bellis
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yeah WGAF not the ones that count like edwards, conca and bellis
Conca will be like a new recruit.
A really fat one with crappy hammies
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10/10 for me
Well done RFC
Just need to delist Batchelor and Lambert I reckon
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Don't rate Lambert but if we delist him or any other uncontracted player before Andrew Moore then something's seriously amiss....
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I reckon Geelong will slide.
Retired Bartel and Enright, traded out Caddy, and only really acquired Touohyhyh from Carlton.
Sydney will likely stay up near the top, Hawks might too given they got Mitchell and O'Meara to cover Mitchell and Lewis, Doggies will push for top four, Crows will push for top four, WCE might even have a crack.
Cats and Roos to slide out for me.
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To be clear guys, its effectively Prestia & Caddy for 6 and next years 2nd rounder.
Prestia and Caddy for 6, next years 2nd rounder and 24
As 24 was traded in as part of the Prestia deal FOR pick 6, we effectively on traded it.
Prestia + 24 = 6 + 2017 2nd Rounder.
24 + 64 = Caddy + 56.
Means we LOST 6, 2017 2nd Rounder and 64
and GAINED Prestia, Caddy & 56. :thumbsup
Edit: Imagine if Geelong finish bottom next year :pray
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Can't wait to see Hey Presto and Caddy line up in the back pockets.
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Edit: Imagine if Geelong finish bottom next year :pray
Well we saw what happened to Fremantle. If Dangerfield breaks a leg... :D
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10/10 for me
Well done RFC
Just need to delist Batchelor and Lambert I reckon
Agree 10/10 :clapping
Think Butler has already packed his bags....
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10/10 for me
Well done RFC
Just need to delist Batchelor and Lambert I reckon
Not sure about 10/10 but the best trade period I've seen in a long time. Most around here lost their capacity for objectivity a long time ago it seems (perhaps understandably so) but most media pundits have been/ will says i that we're close to the big winners from this trade period.
Lids - Long been my favourite player, but looking at the how the trade market rates 29 year olds think we got overs here, not unders. Club showed some balls trading him as well. Geelong won't be top 4 next year (had a shocking trade period) and that pick will fall between 12-14 I think + we'll get a 3rd rounder from GWS.
Prestia - Yeah we gave up a lot, but at worst we're getting a B grade mid (who could be a B+/A-) for the next 7-8 years. Pick six might be better than that, they might not. I'm happy to take a guy with runs on the board.
Caddy - No superstar but again will be a solid B grade mid for the next 7-8 years. Is the kind of player we need as well (big inside mid who can drift forward). Considering we were prepared to give Lids for him straight up, pick 24 and having our 3rd round pick upgraded is a great result
Nank - Just a younger Maric really. Sydney fans i know really liked him. Has his limitations of course but I'd prefer he play rd 1 than Hampson. Again for a 3rd round pick I think that's good value.
Add to that the dodgy deal we did with Hawthorn to get Vickery's comp. pick, the fact we didn't pick up overrated 26 year old mids (Rockliff, Hatlett), and the fact we clearly shopped Lennon and Conca (clearly no one wanted them) then I'd say we did almost everything we could. We'll be better in 2017 and we didn't sell our future.
I was as prepared as everyone else to be terribly disappointed but they've really surprised me. Just the tonic needed after needed after a shocking 12 months.
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Alot better this year then before ,but still we a gun shy and don't have the balls to trade out players who let us down and have value,B Ellis,Edwards etc.
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Don't rate Lambert but if we delist him or any other uncontracted player before Andrew Moore then something's seriously amiss....
Think you will get your wish
Cant see Moore surviving, nor should he
Reckon Short & Castangna will be promoted too
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10/10 for me
Well done RFC
Just need to delist Batchelor and Lambert I reckon
Agree 10/10 :clapping
Think Butler has already packed his bags....
9/10
From me
Addressed needs
Held firm on a number deals
And were aggressive targeting key needs
Well done RFC
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Meh! From me.
I think most of you lot have forgotten who we barrack for and who the coach is.
Unless Balme has got more surprises it'll more of the same frustration we endured this year.
Stay tuned for;
1) Prestia limited to running laps after a preseason training mishap that eventually leads to the inevitable pre-postnabcup cleanup surgery all the while we hear Balme ensuring us the whole season that's it's only a 2-3 week issue. :rollin
2) Caddy will tease us early and start the year with a bang only to find it difficult to get continuity of performance trying to make sense of the Hardwick "blueprinttosuccess" no tackle game plan. :rollin
3) Nankervis won't know himself getting games lining up at full back then thrown to full forward the next only to be relegated to VFL footy because Hamspud is our best ruckman and can't be moved :rollin
4) We get to see the same types doing all the things we are all so fond of.....
Cotchins 20 metre dinky specials, Griggs Skylab floaters, Conca's run, ping & limp, Hunt's pin point opponent passes & let's not forget B Ellis's pants pooing on field antics. :rollin
5) Still no shepherding, tackling or sticking up for your teammate because it's not "TheRichmondWay" and we aren't a tackling team. :banghead
6) Yaz getting 300k to run another lap at training. :clapping :gotigers
Im forever glad we only get to see Sideshow from now on in other club colours. :thumbsup
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so in players what have we gained and lost.
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Deledio - arguably the best player we have when not injured we have not replaced his quality in fact it is arguable that Prestia is nothing but a B grader and Caddy so so far has been a C grader.
Vickery - no great loss but he has performed better than Nankervis to date.Was also more a kpf and we have done nothing to address this area again.
Chaplin - dud kpd but one of few we had, still we have done nothing about our kpds.
Marcon - Vfl standard player who was only on the rookie list.
Most of picks in the ND With just one lousy pick in the top 50.
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so in players what have we gained and lost.
Outs first. -
Deledio - arguably the best player we have when not injured we have not replaced his quality in fact it is arguable that Prestia is nothing but a B grader and Caddy so so far has been a C grader.
Vickery - no great loss but he has performed better than Nankervis to date.Was also more a kpf and we have done nothing to address this area again.
Chaplin - dud kpd but one of few we had, still we have done nothing about our kpds.
Marcon - Vfl standard player who was only on the rookie list.
Most of picks in the ND With just one lousy pick in the top 50.
Bit harsh to Prestia and Caddy IMO.
Reality is that after Martin and Cotchin, Prestia will be our best mid. Then it's probably Caddy before Miles. And they're a damned sight better than some of the other guys we try to throw in there - IE Hunt etc.
Plus when you consider the losses you have to look deeper. Lids was cooked and we got currency for him before it was too late. Vickery was a shadow of his potential and we got a reasonable pick for him. Chaplin retired, a year too late and he knew it. Marcon delisted - harsh I thought he'd shown enough to deserve another year of development.
As for trading out picks, well I don't rate our ability to draft kids anyway. At 24 years old Prestia and Caddy can both play comfortably 6-8 years and will be good players. If we took those picks to the draft there's a good chance we'd get two blokes for 6-8 years who don't develop at all and then we finally delist them when they're too old and depressed to trade for anything useful.
So IMO, good trade. Massive shame we didn't use Lids +27 + 56 to target Marchbank, Tomlinson and WHE. That would have made my day.
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I'm happy with most things we did during the last 10 days but for me the big mistake is pick 6 for Prestia. He is clearly not worth that. Not ever.
Regardless of our previous record of drafting, when you have pick 6 in a great draft by all reports, you keep it.
I see Prestia as an upgrade on Miles but like Miles he is a bit one dimensional. I don't think you can play both in the same side.
We desperately need another KPF and KPB and I hope there is a decent kid left at our pick in the draft.
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I'm happy with most things we did during the last 10 days but for me the big mistake is pick 6 for Prestia. He is clearly not worth that. Not ever.
Regardless of our previous record of drafting, when you have pick 6 in a great draft by all reports, you keep it.
I see Prestia as an upgrade on Miles but like Miles he is a bit one dimensional. I don't think you can play both in the same side.
We desperately need another KPF and KPB and I hope there is a decent kid left at our pick in the draft.
I disagree about prestia being one dimensional - I see him as an inside/outside type midfielder. Hard at the ball, but offers plenty of run and dash, a lot quicker than miles too. A classic sydney swans type midfielder like jack/hannebery/parker will do the hard stuff in the clinches but will also run hard both ways
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He's a better field kick than Kieran Jack....
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Here some Kieran Jack,
Leading the horses down the track....
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The horses from last year?
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List has improved. Some trade wins some losses. Has to be a positive. Well done RFC
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I'm happy with most things we did during the last 10 days but for me the big mistake is pick 6 for Prestia. He is clearly not worth that. Not ever.
Regardless of our previous record of drafting, when you have pick 6 in a great draft by all reports, you keep it.
I see Prestia as an upgrade on Miles but like Miles he is a bit one dimensional. I don't think you can play both in the same side.
We desperately need another KPF and KPB and I hope there is a decent kid left at our pick in the draft.
I disagree about prestia being one dimensional - I see him as an inside/outside type midfielder. Hard at the ball, but offers plenty of run and dash, a lot quicker than miles too. A classic sydney swans type midfielder like jack/hannebery/parker will do the hard stuff in the clinches but will also run hard both ways
The way I see Prestia is he is ok as an inside mid and ok as an outside mid just like you say but not elite at either. And at AFL level that makes you just and average/good/B grader at best with no scope to ever be an A grade talent. Don't get me wrong B graders are good but not for pick 6 when you know they haven't got anymore upside on where they are at at age 24.
Surely with that pick you are aiming higher than a B grader. Especially an injury prone one.
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Trading pick six has dimmer all over it.
Stubborn pig.
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so in players what have we gained and lost.
Outs first. -
Deledio - arguably the best player we have when not injured we have not replaced his quality in fact it is arguable that Prestia is nothing but a B grader and Caddy so so far has been a C grader.
Vickery - no great loss but he has performed better than Nankervis to date.Was also more a kpf and we have done nothing to address this area again.
Chaplin - dud kpd but one of few we had, still we have done nothing about our kpds.
Marcon - Vfl standard player who was only on the rookie list.
Most of picks in the ND With just one lousy pick in the top 50.
Bit harsh to Prestia and Caddy IMO.
Reality is that after Martin and Cotchin, Prestia will be our best mid. Then it's probably Caddy before Miles. And they're a damned sight better than some of the other guys we try to throw in there - IE Hunt etc.
Plus when you consider the losses you have to look deeper. Lids was cooked and we got currency for him before it was too late. Vickery was a shadow of his potential and we got a reasonable pick for him. Chaplin retired, a year too late and he knew it. Marcon delisted - harpoohought he'd shown enough to deserve another year of development.
As for trading out picks, well I don't rate our ability to draft kids anyway. At 24 years old Prestia and Caddy can both play comfortably 6-8 years and will be good players. If we took those picks to the draft there's a good chance we'd get two blokes for 6-8 years who don't develop at all and then we finally delist them when they're too old and depressed to trade for anything useful.
So IMO, good trade. Massive shame we didn't use Lids +27 + 56 to target Marchbank, Tomlinson and WHE. That would have made my day.
Your joking arent ya. Prestia at his best has been borderlins A/B Throw in injuries and his early seasons and he has been nothing but B grade at best with no outstanding attributes to suggest he will ever be elite.
As for Josh Caddy would have to be one of the most disappointing players i have seen.
It is not that he has not played some great footy at times but it is the failures under real pressure and the way his game drops away when every thing is not going his way. As an inside mid i can only describe him as average so far.
Who knows both may become top players but i doubt it. Personally i think ND PICK 6 should have been sacrosanct and in fact we went the wrong way and instead of looking at mature types we should have been looking at ways to get into a top 5 pick.
To do that the club would have had to acknowledge previous failures and just how poor the list is and that was never ever going to happen.
So where do people think Caddy and Prestia will get us to if all things go well? bottom half of the 8 and more middling picks. We have not addressed any real list need we have hung onto so many duds and under performers the culture has not changed we traded out of the ND AND WE CONTINUE TO IGNORE THE DIRE STATE OF OUR KPP STOCKS.
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We got 2 first rounders for next year........hello Nat Fyfe... :gotigers
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I was wondering sering why we didn't trade up, also I wondered why we didn't look at Vardy. He went cheap and replaces TV and is more mobile and a better mark or was last time I saw him on the field which was a while ago. Maybe he got fat whilst injured. Anybody know?
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The AFL website gave us a "B".
RICHMOND
In: Dion Prestia, Toby Nankervis, Josh Caddy, picks 27, 56, 2017 first-round pick (Geelong), 2017 third-round pick (GWS)
Out: Brett Deledio, Ty Vickery, picks 6, 46, 64, and 2017 second-round pick
Win: Midfield depth and class, a desperately needed ruckman, a first-round pick next year
Lose: A 243-game star, a flexible ruck-forward, Their highest pick in the draft since 2010
2016 draft picks: 27, 56, 82 and 100
What couldn’t they get done?
The Tigers' regret would be losing their position in the top 10 of the draft. That was an unrealistic goal, however, when they were attempting to lure a highly rated player like Prestia, who walks into the midfield.
Nathan Schmook’s verdict
The midfield issues that have long plagued the Tigers might finally have been addressed with the addition of Prestia and Caddy. With both 24, they can help the Tigers immediately while also being long-term prospects if a rebuild is required. Deledio's exit also netted a good return, with future first and third-round picks coming in for the 29-year-old. A second-round pick as compensation for Ty Vickery was a remarkable result.
Rating: B
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-20/trade-verdict-how-did-your-club-fare-during-the-trade-period
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Pelchen gave us an "A" (8 1/2 out of 10).
RICHMOND
Who Left: Tyrone Vickery (Hawthorn), Brett Deledio (GWS Giants)
Who Arrived: Dion Prestia (Gold Coast), Toby Nankervis (Sydney), Josh Caddy (Geelong)
Draft Picks: 27, 56, 82
Champion Data says: “I thought they were probably the second best team in the trade period behind Gold Coast. Hopefully what this does is bring in two players that can play midfield, which will free up Dustin Martin to play forward. When he’s having his biggest impact is when he’s playing 50 per cent midfield and 50 per cent forward.”
Chris Pelchen says: “I know they’re an easy club to criticise, but congratulations to them. They’ve done extremely well. Picking up Prestia and Caddy, they’ve got some guys with serious numbers — it’s really going to help their midfield. They’ve also picked up a future first-round selection to top that off.”
Grade: 8.5/10
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trades-2016-report-cards-every-clubs-exchange-period-graded/news-story/e2f5153498350c7b15dce95b94da22b3
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From the Herald-Sun:
RICHMOND
GAINED: Josh Caddy, Dion Prestia, Toby Nankervis
LOST: Brett Deledio, Ty Vickery
DRAFT PICKS: 27, 56, 82, 100, 118, 136
Finished with a roar, jagging Prestia, Caddy and Nankervis at the death. The first two give grunt and power to the existing polish and Nankervis is a young ruckman with a big future. Dimma’s job security goes up after Richmond’s best off-season in years.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-period-2016-report-card-who-did-your-club-gain-and-lose/news-story/be7c8f6ca7910398a780f1f811f64680
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The decision to let Ty go was the right decision. His last season at the club was woeful. I think Hawthorn will get the best out of him. The compensation we got for him was very good. Lets hope they do not waste the compensation pick.
I was a big fan of Caddy when he was at the Gold Coast. Prestia and Caddy are still young, both are good at getting contested possessions and both can tackle particularly Caddy. Their recruitment will help Miles, Cotchin and Martin significantly in getting contested possession an area we have struggled in since Tuck left the club. Their recruitment hopefully will mean that Grigg will never be play in the centre again.
I am sad to see Lids go. He was a great player. His kicking particularly for goal from distance and his marking whether on the lead or overhead was pure class. We will miss his speed as well. But the decision to let him go was the right one for the club and player. He deserves to have success. The amount of crap he has put up with since being recruited is admirable. I respect his decision completely. Lids is at the end of his career and the club needed to find a way of not being so dependent on him.
If Toby Nankervis can take a contested grab, is good at tackling and is at hard at the contest his recruitment will be a wise decision. Sad to say but going for unknown is still better than relying on Hampson.
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QUESTION FROM DAVID: Would like to know what you think of The Tigers trades.
Buckenara: Caddy and Prestia add to the midfield but is it midfield players Richmond need as a priority? Nankervis is a workhorse type player that can ruck and go forward. Losing Deledio, even though his body has not been great, when Deledio plays well and is in the team Richmond usually play well. So only time will tell how this will work out but again, Deledio and Vickery out with Caddy, Prestia and Nankervis in, it's probably status quo.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/live-chat-with-recruiter-gary-buckenara-after-end-of-2016-trade-and-free-agency-period/news-story/2cd609f3aff57dc30d36a4bacec9fa9a
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Richmond trade review
richmondfc.com.au
21 October 2016
Richmond’s General Manager – Football Talent, Dan Richardson, provides a summary of the Tigers’ transactions in the AFL’s 2016 trade period, including the acquisition of three players – Dion Prestia (from Gold Coast), Josh Caddy (Geelong) and Toby Nankervis (Sydney).
“We went into the trade period with a strategy to increase midfield depth, and with Ty (Vickery) moving on as a free agent, another forward-ruckman was a priority as well,” Richardson said.
“So we were able to bring in Dion (Prestia), who adds some real power running capacity . . . as well as Josh Caddy, who’s a strong-bodied midfielder, high contested-ball numbers at his best. And Toby Nankervis, a young ruckman, who played finals for Sydney this year, and showed that he can really compete already, really hard at AFL level . . .
“Dion’s a running machine. I think it’d be fair to say he’d be top one or two runners at the Club when he comes here . . . he was at the Gold Coast.
“Josh is a strong-bodied midfielder, but he moves okay as well.
“Both have genuinely high contested-ball numbers . . . so they provide that extra midfield depth.
“They can both play on a wing and move half-forward as well.
“I think as we’ve seen from the best teams, midfield depth you really can’t get enough of it, and that’s where the value in those two players comes.
“And, with Toby, he’s a left-footer, he’s also a big, strong body, but he moves well for a big guy, he’s very aggressive, very tough and competes really hard.
“He’ll do that, whether he’s playing as a key forward or in the ruck.
“So, it’s a really good outcome, balanced with, obviously, the loss of a champion for the Club in Brett (Deledio). But I guess that’s the age of free agency . . .
“With him coming out as a free agent at the end of next year, we felt that it was best to fulfil his desires to seek a fresh start. But, equally, to secure a first round pick from Geelong – and that will be dependent on Geelong’s finish next year – as well as a third round pick from GWS, is a satisfactory outcome in that regard as well.
“Clearly now we’ve got some good ruck depth. So Ivan (Maric), importantly, we signed on for another year, as we know, and Shaun Hampson, we know had a really solid year, this year. We certainly see Toby being able to complement those guys. And throw in Ivan Soldo, who’s still developing and young, and Ben Griffiths, who’s capable of playing that forward-ruck role as well. Competitions for spots will be tough in that area of the ground, but that’s a good thing for us.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-10-21/richmond-trade-review
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I compared Hampsons ave stats to 'The Nanks' via Footywire yesterday, and whilst hampson gets his hand to more hitouts (albiet many to disadvantage), The Nank is clearly well ahead in terms of possessions, tackling, clearances, and 1% ers.
I think his lack of hitouts is testament to him playing second ruck instead of first though.
Ive also watched a bit of him playing fwd and his positioning in contested marking situations is very good
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I compared Hampsons ave stats to 'The Nanks' via Footywire yesterday, and whilst hampson gets his hand to more hitouts (albiet many to disadvantage), The Nank is clearly well ahead in terms of possessions, tackling, clearances, and 1% ers.
I think his lack of hitouts is testament to him playing second ruck instead of first though.
Ive also watched a bit of him playing fwd and his positioning in contested marking situations is very good
:clapping
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The decision to let Ty go was the right decision. His last season at the club was woeful. I think Hawthorn will get the best out of him. The compensation we got for him was very good. Lets hope they do not waste the compensation pick.
I was a big fan of Caddy when he was at the Gold Coast. Prestia and Caddy are still young, both are good at getting contested possessions and both can tackle particularly Caddy. Their recruitment will help Miles, Cotchin and Martin significantly in getting contested possession an area we have struggled in since Tuck left the club. Their recruitment hopefully will mean that Grigg will never be play in the centre again.
I am sad to see Lids go. He was a great player. His kicking particularly for goal from distance and his marking whether on the lead or overhead was pure class. We will miss his speed as well. But the decision to let him go was the right one for the club and player. He deserves to have success. The amount of crap he has put up with since being recruited is admirable. I respect his decision completely. Lids is at the end of his career and the club needed to find a way of not being so dependent on him.
If Toby Nankervis can take a contested grab, is good at tackling and is at hard at the contest his recruitment will be a wise decision. Sad to say but going for unknown is still better than relying on Hampson.
Good post. 👍
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The decision to let Ty go was the right decision. His last season at the club was woeful. I think Hawthorn will get the best out of him. The compensation we got for him was very good. Lets hope they do not waste the compensation pick.
I was a big fan of Caddy when he was at the Gold Coast. Prestia and Caddy are still young, both are good at getting contested possessions and both can tackle particularly Caddy. Their recruitment will help Miles, Cotchin and Martin significantly in getting contested possession an area we have struggled in since Tuck left the club. Their recruitment hopefully will mean that Grigg will never be play in the centre again.
I am sad to see Lids go. He was a great player. His kicking particularly for goal from distance and his marking whether on the lead or overhead was pure class. We will miss his speed as well. But the decision to let him go was the right one for the club and player. He deserves to have success. The amount of crap he has put up with since being recruited is admirable. I respect his decision completely. Lids is at the end of his career and the club needed to find a way of not being so dependent on him.
If Toby Nankervis can take a contested grab, is good at tackling and is at hard at the contest his recruitment will be a wise decision. Sad to say but going for unknown is still better than relying on Hampson.
Good post. 👍
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Excellent post
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Trade period winners and losers
Glenn Valencich
Sportsfan/AFL website
Oct 21, 2016
WINNERS
Fremantle
GWS
St Kilda
Richmond
In: Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy, Toby Nankervis, No.27, No.56, Geelong's 2017 first-round pick, GWS's 2017 third-round pick
Out: Ty Vickery, Brett Deledio, No.6, No.46, No.64, 2017 second-round pick
They're not quite putting all their eggs in the rebuilding basket but we don't think that's such a bad thing. Prestia and Caddy will be dropped right to the front of the midfield rotation, which could potentially improve Trent Cotchin's output. Nankervis is just 22 years of age but looks ready to play on a more regular basis after 12 games in the past two years. With Shaun Hampson entrenched as the No.1 ruck, Nankervis should play round one as a second ruck and third tall forward behind Jack Riewoldt and Ben Griffiths.
LOSERS
Hawthorn
Geelong
Port Adelaide
Adelaide
http://www.sportsfan.com.au/trade-period-winners-and-losers/tabid/91/newsid/214233/default.aspx?cid=SF_LOWDOWN_AFL_article_tradeperiodwinnersandlosers_211016