How did we all rate our trade period?

[WilliamPowell]

10/10 for me
Well done RFC
Just need to delist Batchelor and Lambert I reckon

Agree 10/10
Think Butler has already packed his bags....

9/10

From me

Addressed needs

Held firm on a number deals

And were aggressive targeting key needs

Well done RFC

[Tigeritis™©®]

Meh! From me.

I think most of you lot have forgotten who we barrack for and who the coach is.

Unless Balme has got more surprises it'll more of the same frustration we endured this year.
 
Stay tuned for;

1) Prestia limited to running laps after a preseason training mishap that eventually  leads to the inevitable pre-postnabcup cleanup surgery all the while we hear Balme ensuring us the whole season that's it's only a 2-3 week issue. 

2) Caddy will tease us early and start the year with a bang only to find it difficult to get continuity of performance trying to make sense of the Hardwick "blueprinttosuccess" no tackle game plan. 

3) Nankervis won't know himself getting games lining up at full back then thrown to full forward the next only to be relegated to VFL footy because Hamspud is our best ruckman and can't be moved 

4) We get to see the same types doing all the things we are all so fond of.....
Cotchins 20 metre dinky specials,  Griggs Skylab floaters, Conca's run, ping & limp, Hunt's pin point opponent passes & let's not forget B Ellis's pants pooing on field antics. 

5) Still no shepherding, tackling or sticking up for your teammate because it's not "TheRichmondWay" and we aren't a tackling team.   

6) Yaz getting 300k to run another lap at training. 


Im forever glad we only get to see Sideshow from now on in other club colours. 

[the claw]

so in players what have we gained and lost.
Outs first. -
 Deledio - arguably the best player we have when not injured we have not replaced his quality in fact it is arguable that Prestia  is nothing but a B grader and Caddy so so far has been a C grader.
Vickery - no great loss but he has performed better than Nankervis to date.Was also more a kpf and we have done nothing to address this area again.
Chaplin - dud kpd but one of few we had, still we have done nothing about our kpds.
Marcon - Vfl standard player who was only on the rookie list.
Most of picks in the ND With just one lousy pick in the top 50.

[Andyy]

so in players what have we gained and lost.
Outs first. -
 Deledio - arguably the best player we have when not injured we have not replaced his quality in fact it is arguable that Prestia  is nothing but a B grader and Caddy so so far has been a C grader.
Vickery - no great loss but he has performed better than Nankervis to date.Was also more a kpf and we have done nothing to address this area again.
Chaplin - dud kpd but one of few we had, still we have done nothing about our kpds.
Marcon - Vfl standard player who was only on the rookie list.
Most of picks in the ND With just one lousy pick in the top 50.

Bit harsh to Prestia and Caddy IMO.

Reality is that after Martin and Cotchin, Prestia will be our best mid. Then it's probably Caddy before Miles. And they're a damned sight better than some of the other guys we try to throw in there - IE Hunt etc.

Plus when you consider the losses you have to look deeper. Lids was cooked and we got currency for him before it was too late. Vickery was a shadow of his potential and we got a reasonable pick for him. Chaplin retired, a year too late and he knew it. Marcon delisted - harsh I thought he'd shown enough to deserve another year of development.

As for trading out picks, well I don't rate our ability to draft kids anyway. At 24 years old Prestia and Caddy can both play comfortably 6-8 years and will be good players. If we took those picks to the draft there's a good chance we'd get two blokes for 6-8 years who don't develop at all and then we finally delist them when they're too old and depressed to trade for anything useful.

So IMO, good trade. Massive shame we didn't use Lids +27 + 56 to target Marchbank, Tomlinson and WHE. That would have made my day.

[big tone]

I'm happy with most things we did during the last 10 days but for me the big mistake is pick 6 for Prestia. He is clearly not worth that. Not ever.
Regardless of our previous record of drafting, when you have pick 6 in a great draft by all reports, you keep it.
I see Prestia as an upgrade on Miles but like Miles he is a bit one dimensional. I don't think you can play both in the same side.

We desperately need another KPF and KPB and I hope there is a decent kid left at our pick in the draft.

[tony_montana]

I'm happy with most things we did during the last 10 days but for me the big mistake is pick 6 for Prestia. He is clearly not worth that. Not ever.
Regardless of our previous record of drafting, when you have pick 6 in a great draft by all reports, you keep it.
I see Prestia as an upgrade on Miles but like Miles he is a bit one dimensional. I don't think you can play both in the same side.

We desperately need another KPF and KPB and I hope there is a decent kid left at our pick in the draft.

I disagree about prestia being one dimensional - I see him as an inside/outside type midfielder. Hard at the ball, but offers plenty of run and dash, a lot quicker than miles too. A classic sydney swans type midfielder like jack/hannebery/parker will do the hard stuff in the clinches but will also run hard both ways

[Diocletian]

He's a better field kick than Kieran Jack....

[(•))(©™]

Here some Kieran Jack,
Leading the horses down the track....

[Diocletian]

The horses from last year?

[TigerLand]

List has improved. Some trade wins some losses. Has to be a positive. Well done RFC

[big tone]

I'm happy with most things we did during the last 10 days but for me the big mistake is pick 6 for Prestia. He is clearly not worth that. Not ever.
Regardless of our previous record of drafting, when you have pick 6 in a great draft by all reports, you keep it.
I see Prestia as an upgrade on Miles but like Miles he is a bit one dimensional. I don't think you can play both in the same side.

We desperately need another KPF and KPB and I hope there is a decent kid left at our pick in the draft.

I disagree about prestia being one dimensional - I see him as an inside/outside type midfielder. Hard at the ball, but offers plenty of run and dash, a lot quicker than miles too. A classic sydney swans type midfielder like jack/hannebery/parker will do the hard stuff in the clinches but will also run hard both ways

The way I see Prestia is he is ok as an inside mid and ok as an outside mid just like you say but not elite at either. And at AFL level that makes you just and average/good/B grader at best with no scope to ever be an A grade talent. Don't get me wrong B graders are good but not for pick 6 when you know they haven't got anymore upside on where they are at at age 24.
Surely with that pick you are aiming higher than a B grader. Especially an injury prone one.

[(•))(©™]

Trading pick six has dimmer all over it.

Stubborn pig.

[the claw]

so in players what have we gained and lost.
Outs first. -
 Deledio - arguably the best player we have when not injured we have not replaced his quality in fact it is arguable that Prestia  is nothing but a B grader and Caddy so so far has been a C grader.
Vickery - no great loss but he has performed better than Nankervis to date.Was also more a kpf and we have done nothing to address this area again.
Chaplin - dud kpd but one of few we had, still we have done nothing about our kpds.
Marcon - Vfl standard player who was only on the rookie list.
Most of picks in the ND With just one lousy pick in the top 50.

Bit harsh to Prestia and Caddy IMO.

Reality is that after Martin and Cotchin, Prestia will be our best mid. Then it's probably Caddy before Miles. And they're a damned sight better than some of the other guys we try to throw in there - IE Hunt etc.

Plus when you consider the losses you have to look deeper. Lids was cooked and we got currency for him before it was too late. Vickery was a shadow of his potential and we got a reasonable pick for him. Chaplin retired, a year too late and he knew it. Marcon delisted - harpoohought he'd shown enough to deserve another year of development.

As for trading out picks, well I don't rate our ability to draft kids anyway. At 24 years old Prestia and Caddy can both play comfortably 6-8 years and will be good players. If we took those picks to the draft there's a good chance we'd get two blokes for 6-8 years who don't develop at all and then we finally delist them when they're too old and depressed to trade for anything useful.

So IMO, good trade. Massive shame we didn't use Lids +27 + 56 to target Marchbank, Tomlinson and WHE. That would have made my day.

Your joking arent ya. Prestia at his best has been borderlins A/B Throw in injuries and his early seasons and he has been nothing but B grade at best with no outstanding attributes to suggest he will ever be elite.
As for Josh Caddy would have to be one of the most disappointing players i have seen.
It is not that he has not played some great footy at times but it is the failures under real pressure and the way his game drops away when every thing is not going his way. As an inside mid i can only describe him as average so far.
Who knows both may become top players but i doubt it. Personally i think ND PICK 6 should have been sacrosanct and in fact we went the wrong way and instead of looking at mature types we should have been looking at ways to get into a top 5 pick.

To do that the club would have had to acknowledge previous failures and just how poor the list is  and that was never ever going to happen.
So where do people think Caddy and Prestia will get us to if all things go well?  bottom half of the 8 and more middling picks. We have not addressed any real list need we have hung onto so many duds and under performers the culture has not changed we traded out of the ND  AND WE CONTINUE TO IGNORE THE DIRE STATE OF OUR KPP STOCKS.

[Tigershark]

We got 2 first rounders for next year........hello Nat Fyfe...

[tdy]

I was wondering sering why we didn't trade up,  also I wondered why we didn't look at Vardy. He went cheap and replaces TV and is more mobile and a better mark or was last time I saw him on the field which was a while ago. Maybe he got fat whilst injured. Anybody know?