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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mat073 on July 18, 2017, 04:31:09 PM
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Ok , so I would rather be in our position than say Essendon , St Kilda or Melbourne.
Still - I'm not convinced it's a foregone conclusion that we will see September action .
Just our luck Hawthorn are having the shortest rebuild in history , We will no doubt be Freos grand final - playing them in their final game at Subiaco. Nervous times ahead.
Ive done a ladder - post round 5
Sydney 9 w 2 L
Adelaide 7w 4L
Port 7w 4L
Melb 7w 4L
GWS 6w 3L 2D
Geel 6w 4L 1D
WCE 6w 5L
Hawthorn 5w 5L 1D
Essendon 5w 6L
Richmond 5W 6L
Collingwood 5w 6L
Bulldogs 4w 7L
Freo 4w 7L
Carlton 4w 7L
North 4w 7L
SUNS 4w 7L
Brisbane 2w 9L
Since our great victory over Melbourne on Anzac eve - we are basically a middle of the road team that is extremely capable of losing to other "middle of the road " teams .
Any one done a ladder predictor ?? Thoughts and opinions ?? How many wins makes the 8 ??
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I'd say the care factor is low 1/ because we ain't winning a flag
2/it's so even that it's pointless talking about for another month
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U usually only need 12 wins so yeah we ought to play finals. If we don't then
1 we choked bad to win only 1 out of 6
2 bye bye Hardwick
Our run home isn't easy but we ought to be in every game. None ought to thrash us.
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No but we'll shape them....
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Yes
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We will need to win 13 to make sure of it.
Touch and go.
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No but we'll shape them....
Yessssss :shh
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Think I might prefer to miss Finals if it means they move Dimma on.
We have two good options already on staff as replacements (Blake Caracella and Craig McCrae)
:cheers
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Think I might prefer to miss Finals if it means they move Dimma on.
We have two good options already on staff as replacements (Blake Caracella and Craig McCrae)
:cheers
Well said "65
And I thought you had lost your marbles. :lol
:cheers
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what if losing dimma means losing martin ?
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Think I might prefer to miss Finals if it means they move Dimma on.
We have two good options already on staff as replacements (Blake Caracella and Craig McCrae)
:cheers
I would rather see the coach get sacked than witness the club strive to win a final ( or two )
WOW , UNBELIEVABLE
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we'll make it - expect us to win 4 of our remianing games.
Don't expect us to do anything in finals though
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Think I might prefer to miss Finals if it means they move Dimma on.
We have two good options already on staff as replacements (Blake Caracella and Craig McCrae)
:cheers
I would rather see the coach get sacked than witness the club strive to win a final ( or two )
WOW , UNBELIEVABLE
I'd rather win a final or 2 period.
I give the coach credit for allowing others to have a say - it's worked.
He won't get a contract extension - even if he gets us into the GF - that's FACT so he'll be forced to back up this year anyway.
It makes me laugh how you blokes wish away our best players best years because you want to see the coach sacked.
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The fact that "making finals" has been such a catch phrase in Hardwick's time explains everything.
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AFL run home, finals, top eight, minor premiers, Richmond, Western Bulldogs, Adelaide
Gilbert Gardiner and Ben Higgins,
Herald Sun
18 July 2017
Gilbert Gardiner has cast his eye over the run home and it doesn’t look good for the Western Bulldogs, despite a predicted four wins in the final six weeks.
With a congested mid-table fight for finals, the Bulldogs are predicted to miss out, along with Essendon and St Kilda.
It would mean the current ladder holds to Round 23 with West Coast holding on to eighth and Port Adelaide fending off Richmond for the double chance.
Adelaide is predicted to finish as minor premiers with just one loss in the run home, ahead of Geelong and GWS.
5. RICHMOND (107.4%, 40PTS)
R18 GWS Giants (MCG) L
R19 Gold Coast (MS) W
R20 Hawthorn (MCG) W
R21 Geelong (SS) L
R22 Fremantle (S) W
R23 St Kilda (MCG) W
GILBERT GARDINER SAYS: Did a job on Port Adelaide behind enemy lines and will need to do the same against Geelong in Round 21 to keep faint top-four hopes alive. The Giants are gettable, but mindful of their midfield class and tall timber forward which could stretch the Tigers.
BEN HIGGINS SAYS: Despite sitting comfortably in fifth, the Tigers are still rated a far from convincing 73 per cent chance of playing finals by Champion Data. On current form only the clash against Gold Coast would be seen as an obvious win. Missing the finals from here would take “Richmondy” to a whole new level. Surely not!
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/is-your-team-a-finals-chance-champion-data-rates-every-team/news-story/46d9da1736bac6c794b7156431fcf780
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Think I might prefer to miss Finals if it means they move Dimma on.
We have two good options already on staff as replacements (Blake Caracella and Craig McCrae)
:cheers
I would rather see the coach get sacked than witness the club strive to win a final ( or two )
WOW , UNBELIEVABLE
Your assuming we would win a final let alone two. Get a grip its highly unlikely. The opposint team will turn up firing and we will cave in just like we slways do.
65 lost his scruples a while back but he makes sense with this. Why make finals and prolong the same 'middling' standards when we can get rid of the man responsible for these standards and insert a coach like Caracella who's impact to date on gameplan is far superior to Hardwicks.
Id rather a fresh crack at it under Caracella eith modern thinking than 8 years of the same ABSOLUTE TRIPE.
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I can't believe there is so much hatred directed at Hardwick that supporters ( of Richmond) would rather see us fail -than play in finals . Am I missing something here .
Mathematically we are still a top four chance at round 18. That was beyond the wildest expectations of even the most parochial Richmond supporter at the start of the season.
Even if you despise the coach - why wouldn't you want senior players to experience success ?? Cotch/Jack/Rance and Martin . What about other long suffering Richmond supporters ??
. Most people accept this is Damiens last roll of the dice . He has to win a final or its bye bye and the club would be justified in terminating his services.
I know I will be riding the emotional roller coaster this weekend hoping the Tigers smash the Frankensteins monster that the AFL created ..
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i think the haters are merely welcoming the inevitable should they fall into the finals.
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Finish fourth and we play Adelaide in Adelaide.
No thanks.
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Finish fourth and we play Adelaide in Adelaide.
No thanks.
Just think of the build up and hysteria in the leadup to the second final and a potential straight sets exit after being pantsed in adelaide in week 1. :o
:lol
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Think I might prefer to miss Finals if it means they move Dimma on.
We have two good options already on staff as replacements (Blake Caracella and Craig McCrae)
:cheers
I would rather see the coach get sacked than witness the club strive to win a final ( or two )
WOW , UNBELIEVABLE
Your assuming we would win a final let alone two. Get a grip its highly unlikely. The opposint team will turn up firing and we will cave in just like we slways do.
65 lost his scruples a while back but he makes sense with this. Why make finals and prolong the same 'middling' standards when we can get rid of the man responsible for these standards and insert a coach like Caracella who's impact to date on gameplan is far superior to Hardwicks.
Id rather a fresh crack at it under Caracella eith modern thinking than 8 years of the same ABSOLUTE TRIPE.
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But what if we won in Adelaide ? Would you believe then?
Eh it's nice to day dream then life comes back to smack you in the mouth.
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But what if we won in Adelaide ? Would you believe then?
Eh it's nice to day dream then life comes back to smack you in the mouth.
Whilst the likes of Mat73 is spruiking up "Mathematical Possibilities", what if we all won Division 1 tattslotto each week sequentially for the next 52 weeks?
We can even pick Hardwicks lucky favourites as numbers - 5, 6, 10, 27, 28.....etc etc. Its a lock.
Lets all buy in and of you dont, I cant believe the hatred against such an idea. Am i missing something? Why would anyone despise the idea and likelihood?
#ohlifecouldbeadreamshaboomshaboom
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I give Hardwick some credit for being only percentage outside the top 4 at the 3/4 mark of the home and away season - But mark my words another elimination final defeat is completely unacceptable.
What he has been able to manufacture with
Rioli
Bulter
Castagna
Menadue
Short
Mcintosh
Bolton
Who are all young and very inexperienced footballers is nothing short of miraculous.
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Our success is in spite of Halfstep, not because of him....bloke's become a millstone around the club's neck...
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Our success is in spite of Halfstep, not because of him....bloke's become a millstone around the club's neck...
Burden of proof please . If you want want to make claims - back it up with facts .
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How about instead you go through our last eight seasons and try detecting common denominators? It's not that hard.....
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You're answering my question with another question and not giving any validity to your claim our "success is in spite of Halfstep "
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I stand corrected......obviously it was too hard for you....
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Cotchin
Rance
Jack
Edwards
Dusty
Astbury
Benny G
Throw in Deledio for 7 of the 8 years .
Are we having success in spite of these players too ??
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Cotchin
Rance
Jack
Edwards
Dusty
Astbury
Throw in Deledio for 7 of the 8 years .
Are we having success in spite of these players too ??
Haha Geez on a stuffing bike... :facepalm
....and :facepalm :facepalm for also including Shank Edwards and a defender who's been either injured or below average for most of that time.......
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You asked for the common denominations
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I give Hardwick some credit for being only percentage outside the top 4 at the 3/4 mark of the home and away season - But mark my words another elimination final defeat is completely unacceptable.
What he has been able to manufacture with
Rioli
Bulter
Castagna
Menadue
Short
Mcintosh
Bolton
Who are all young and very inexperienced footballers is nothing short of miraculous.
Theres a good chance of the following
Rioli is a spurt player who lacks consistency
Butler is what he is now just average
Castagna is delisted because of skill issues,
Menadue is lambasted for being soft and not finding enough ball
Short is delisted because of size and imo just totally overrated
McIntosh remains nothing more than what he is now
Bolton is a flash into and out of games x factor type.
Fmd where is the substance you dont build premierships with these types.
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You asked for the common denominations
*denominators
Ok I'll assume you're not just playing dumb and play along.....we've had 7 previous seasons of evidence of Halfstep's flaws, most of them are still writ large this year and are all familiar whenever they reveal themselves, the manner of our losses, the bizarre & inconsistent team selections, the poor gameday coaching, poor set-ups and the sideways movement of the last few weeks, all these are the common denominators of Halfstep's reign or large parts of it....our wins have been based on our guns, our kids, the extra pace,"better" tackling, shepherding and increased forward pressure - the latter of which has been openly credted to Caracella and that we never had before his arrival ....as for the new supposedly attacking gameplan...it basically took a review and sacking all the assistants, hiring new assistants to get Halfstep to change it....and even with it we're still a low scoring side ("we're never going to win by ten goals")...now this may be partly due to it being new so just imagine if we'd been playing it since 2013 instead of dropping it in an overreaction to a finals loss. Who was that down to? Also worth noting that Leppitsch left after 2013 but returned this year and now we're playing more direct, attacking football again. Coincidence? :shh
FWIW I think our list management also holds us back as much as Halfstep does, if not maybe more- but it's really a tandem effort.
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You asked for the common denominations
*denominators
Ok I'll assume you're not just playing dumb and play along.....we've had 7 previous seasons of evidence of Halfstep's flaws, most of them are still writ large this year and are all familiar whenever they reveal themselves, the manner of our losses, the bizarre & inconsistent team selections, the poor gameday coaching, poor set-ups and the sideways movement of the last few weeks, all these are the common denominators of Halfstep's reign or large parts of it....our wins have been based on our guns, our kids, the extra pace,"better" tackling, shepherding and increased forward pressure - the latter of which has been openly credted to Caracella and that we never had before his arrival ....as for the new supposedly attacking gameplan...it basically took a review and sacking all the assistants, hiring new assistants to get Halfstep to change it....and even with it we're still a low scoring side ("we're never going to win by ten goals")...now this may be partly due to it being new so just imagine if we'd been playing it since 2013 instead of dropping it in an overreaction to a finals loss. Who was that down to? Also worth noting that Leppitsch left after 2013 but returned this year and now we're playing more direct, attacking football again. Coincidence? :shh
FWIW I think our list management also holds us back as much as Halfstep does, if not maybe more- but it's really a tandem effort.
:clapping
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Not sure our wins are based on our kids, after all almost to a man they dont get enough ball to influence games.
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Part of the issue is that our forward line is chock full of 18-20 year olds. Take out Riewoldt and mids that rest forward and that's what we have. So, I don't think we'll see consistency because of this. We obviously need a tall that can take a grab too and that will relieve the work load on the kids. They're constantly up against bigger more mature bodies and they will tire because of this. I would not be surprised to see us slide out of the 8 if these kids can't up the ante and help Riewoldt, Cotchin and Martin because they can't do it all every game.
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We have played 10 juniors this yr 18 -21 yr olds
Stengle 18 yrs - 2 games, sml/fwd.
C Ellis 20yrs - 2 games, MED MID???
Lennon 22 yrs - 2 games, med/fwd/mid
Soldo 21yrs 3 games, ruck.
Markov 21yrs - 5 games, med def/fwd
Bolton 18yrs - 5 games, sml/fwd
menadue 20yrs - 9 games, med/ Outside mid
Butler 21yrs - 14 games, sml/fwd
Short 21yrs - 15 games, sml/def
Castagna 21yr - 16 games sml/fwd
Rioli 20yrs - 16 games sml/fwd
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Not sure our wins are based on our kids, after all almost to a man they dont get enough ball to influence games.
If you can't see that the speed, forward pressure and general defensive pressure of our smalls and and even Menadue when he's been in who are all kids has been a contributing factor in our wins so far then you clearly haven't been watching. Whether they can maintain it from here on in is a seperate issue.
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I give Hardwick some credit for being only percentage outside the top 4 at the 3/4 mark of the home and away season - But mark my words another elimination final defeat is completely unacceptable.
What he has been able to manufacture with
Rioli
Bulter
Castagna
Menadue
Short
Mcintosh
Bolton
Who are all young and very inexperienced footballers is nothing short of miraculous.
Theres a good chance of the following
Rioli is a spurt player who lacks consistency
Butler is what he is now just average
Castagna is delisted because of skill issues,
Menadue is lambasted for being soft and not finding enough ball
Short is delisted because of size and imo just totally overrated
McIntosh remains nothing more than what he is now
Bolton is a flash into and out of games x factor type.
Fmd where is the substance you dont build premierships with these types.
werent you on bigfooty a few weeks back arguing that castagna's kicking wasnt bad and that he should be played back?
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I give Hardwick some credit for being only percentage outside the top 4 at the 3/4 mark of the home and away season - But mark my words another elimination final defeat is completely unacceptable.
What he has been able to manufacture with
Rioli
Bulter
Castagna
Menadue
Short
Mcintosh
Bolton
Who are all young and very inexperienced footballers is nothing short of miraculous.
Theres a good chance of the following
Rioli is a spurt player who lacks consistency
Butler is what he is now just average
Castagna is delisted because of skill issues,
Menadue is lambasted for being soft and not finding enough ball
Short is delisted because of size and imo just totally overrated
McIntosh remains nothing more than what he is now
Bolton is a flash into and out of games x factor type.
Fmd where is the substance you dont build premierships with these types.
werent you on bigfooty a few weeks back arguing that castagna's kicking wasnt bad and that he should be played back?
:shh
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But what if we won in Adelaide ? Would you believe then?
Eh it's nice to day dream then life comes back to smack you in the mouth.
Whilst the likes of Mat73 is spruiking up "Mathematical Possibilities", what if we all won Division 1 tattslotto each week sequentially for the next 52 weeks?
We can even pick Hardwicks lucky favourites as numbers - 5, 6, 10, 27, 28.....etc etc. Its a lock.
Lets all buy in and of you dont, I cant believe the hatred against such an idea. Am i missing something? Why would anyone despise the idea and likelihood?
#ohlifecouldbeadreamshaboomshaboom
Ah to dream the impossible dream 😄😄😄😄😄
Can't see it happening and fully expect us to get pantsed in the finals but Stuart Diver survived 5 days underground. They have a vaccine for cervical cancer and we haven't yet had a nuclear war in Trump's first 100 days. Proof miracles do happen.
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I give Hardwick some credit for being only percentage outside the top 4 at the 3/4 mark of the home and away season - But mark my words another elimination final defeat is completely unacceptable.
What he has been able to manufacture with
Rioli
Bulter
Castagna
Menadue
Short
Mcintosh
Bolton
Who are all young and very inexperienced footballers is nothing short of miraculous.
Theres a good chance of the following
Rioli is a spurt player who lacks consistency
Butler is what he is now just average
Castagna is delisted because of skill issues,
Menadue is lambasted for being soft and not finding enough ball
Short is delisted because of size and imo just totally overrated
McIntosh remains nothing more than what he is now
Bolton is a flash into and out of games x factor type.
Fmd where is the substance you dont build premierships with these types.
werent you on bigfooty a few weeks back arguing that castagna's kicking wasnt bad and that he should be played back?
Yes i was and your point is?
I want him or have wanted him played back for reasons other than his kicking. That aside i have never said he is a top kick just that he is no more a turn over merchant than others whose skills leave a lot to be desired. But keep grasping at straws son.
One thing for sure he is a lousy shot at goal and we play him fwd go figure.We play him fwd but have a plethora of small forwards.
I think he is good in the air for his size harrases chases applies pressure weather fwd or back runs and takes the game on and imo could make a decent one v one sml def. In short ive been prepared to trade of weakness for strength but that doesnt mean he has magically become a skilled player, i just think he is better suited to a role in defense.Either way his skill set for a small leaves a lot to be desired.
I can see no reason not to try him in defense.
Do i think he is a keeper i am not sure, if honest id trade him out because of his skills for a small. but hey his KICKING and turnovers are no worse than Jaydon Shorts atm.
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I give Hardwick some credit for being only percentage outside the top 4 at the 3/4 mark of the home and away season - But mark my words another elimination final defeat is completely unacceptable.
What he has been able to manufacture with
Rioli
Bulter
Castagna
Menadue
Short
Mcintosh
Bolton
Who are all young and very inexperienced footballers is nothing short of miraculous.
Theres a good chance of the following
Rioli is a spurt player who lacks consistency
Butler is what he is now just average
Castagna is delisted because of skill issues,
Menadue is lambasted for being soft and not finding enough ball
Short is delisted because of size and imo just totally overrated
McIntosh remains nothing more than what he is now
Bolton is a flash into and out of games x factor type.
Fmd where is the substance you dont build premierships with these types.
werent you on bigfooty a few weeks back arguing that castagna's kicking wasnt bad and that he should be played back?
Yes i was and your point is?
I want him or have wanted him played back for reasons other than his kicking. That aside i have never said he is a top kick just that he is no more a turn over merchant than others whose skills leave a lot to be desired. But keep grasping at straws son.
One thing for sure he is a lousy shot at goal and we play him fwd go figure.We play him fwd but have a plethora of small forwards.
I think he is good in the air for his size harrases chases applies pressure weather fwd or back runs and takes the game on and imo could make a decent one v one sml fwd. In short ive been prepared to trade of weakness for strength but that doesnt mean he has magically become a skilled player, i just think he is better suited to a role in defense.Either way his skill set for a small leaves a lot to be desired.
I can see no reason not to try him in defense.
Do i think he is a keeper i am not sure, if honest id trade him out because of his skills for a small. but hey his KICKING and turnovers are no worse than Jaydon Shorts atm.
The point is pretty clear I would've thought...
Short's had an off day or two but yeah ok claw, Shorts kicking is at the same level as castagna.. Carry on mate, cant even be bothered
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Short has one shocker and all of sudden his kicking is as bad as Castagna's.....ahahaha don't ever change mopsy claws... :clapping
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Surely Claw just says stuff like that to get a reaction because if he knew anything about our players he would know Short is one of the best kicks at the club.
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Surely Claw just says stuff like that to get a reaction because if he knew anything about our players he would know Short is one of the best kicks at the club.
What are you saying here bt.
Short has one shocker and all of sudden his kicking is as bad as Castagna's.....ahahaha don't ever change mopsy claws... :clapping
one game!!!!! again you blokes aint watching. he has regularly tuned the ball over this yr. Im sick to death of mates complaining about his turnovers.Now if thats kicking or decision making ill leave to you lot.
I know castagna is never going to drill a 50 mtre pass but im pretty sure he will play one v one well, apply heaps of pressure in the back half just like he does in the front half, and run and carry yeah take the game on!!!! and kick to advantage make a good decision without being a top kick.
Yep lots of blinkers around this place but give it time like most things you will all come around, short has been turning it over a lot more than people want to admit.
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Short is one of the very few that will attempt the tough kick. Not like Houli or BEllis who are just happy to kick it down the line and rack up meaningless possessions.
Hi risk for high reward in Short's case imo. And I'm more than happy knowing that not all will work 100% of the time. Very much like Dusty in that respect.
He is a very good kick, and a very good player. Id take him over the others in mentioned in a heart beat.
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Winning finals is what we are about.....we just haven't won one yet
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Agree with bt here. Short tries to break the game open with his kicking. He thus takes greater risks and in doing so turns the ball over more often. If he took the Bellis approach, he'd hit his target 100% of the time. I prefer he took risks.
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You are right about Castagna Claw, despite missing goals, his positives are very very good and I reckon he will turn the goal thing around. Very dynamic player and is always amongst it.
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You are right about Castagna Claw
Well yeah except for the complete & utter bollocks about him being a good decision maker who always kicks to advantage.
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You are right about Castagna Claw, despite missing goals, his positives are very very good and I reckon he will turn the goal thing around. Very dynamic player and is always amongst it.
No one disputes Castagna having some fantastic strengths - if he was a good reliable kick he'd be our best small forward no doubt about it - but to say his kicking is on par with Short's is just uninformed and wrong
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Yeah true. I just went off of the last comment, I like dropping into convo's throwing in a pearl of wisdom and then wandering off into the sunset like Clint Eastwood or maybe his Orangutan Clive
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Yeah true. I just went off of the last comment, I like dropping into convo's throwing in a pearl of wisdom and then wandering off into the sunset like Clint Eastwood or maybe his Orangutan Clive
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increased forward pressure - which has been openly credted to Caracella
Also worth noting that Leppitsch left after 2013 but returned this year and now we're playing more direct, attacking football again. Coincidence? :shh
Was going to question the first part. The overwhelming love for Caracella on this forum is the only place I have seen him get credited for anything positive that comes from this club. So when and where has our forward pressure been credited to Caracella outside this forum?
Which leads me to the second point. Caracella is one of a couple of assistants but is more involved in our midfield whereas Leppa is our forwards coach. Now, why hasn't he been given any recognition for the forward pressure?
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increased forward pressure - which has been openly credted to Caracella
Also worth noting that Leppitsch left after 2013 but returned this year and now we're playing more direct, attacking football again. Coincidence? :shh
Was going to question the first part. The overwhelming love for Caracella on this forum is the only place I have seen him get credited for anything positive that comes from this club. So when and where has our forward pressure been credited to Caracella outside this forum?
Which leads me to the second point. Caracella is one of a couple of assistants but is more involved in our midfield whereas Leppa is our forwards coach. Now, why hasn't he been given any recognition for the forward pressure?
I think it is the search for the messiah and a big ranga doesn't fit the bill
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You are right about Castagna Claw, despite missing goals, his positives are very very good and I reckon he will turn the goal thing around. Very dynamic player and is always amongst it.
No one disputes Castagna having some fantastic strengths - if he was a good reliable kick he'd be our best small forward no doubt about it - but to say his kicking is on par with Short's is just uninformed and wrong
Never said his kicking is on par with shorts, and all i have said about short is the fact he is turning the ball over a hell of a lot and it has not just been in recent weeks.
As usual people getting up in arms about a favorite who has been talked up.
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On the thread topic. We dont deserve to play finals nothing but back yard bullies and pretenders.
1O wins so far only one against a top 4 team the rest against teams out of form or injury riddled or just plain poor.
BL 18th 2 wins
NM 17th 1
CA 16TH 2 wins
CO 14th 1
ES 10TH 1
WC 8TH 1
ME 7TH 1
PA 4TH 1
We have kicked more than 12 goals just twice since we were 5-0 and that was against fmd the 18th BL and 17th NM placed teams.We have managed it just 5 times all season the other three occasions against
you guessed it the 18th BL, 16TH CA and 14TH Co,
Since rnd 5 when everyone was creaming their pants over how freakin good they thought we were, we are 5 and 6 and looked second rate in just about every game.Mediocrity is the norm not the exception
People still creaming their pants how good the little fellas have supposedly been never for a minute considering that so many of them at once is the problem.
So much b/s out there and people keep falling for it.
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On the thread topic. We dont deserve to play finals nothing but back yard bullies and pretenders.
1O wins so far only one against a top 4 team the rest against teams out of form or injury riddled or just plain poor.
BL 18th 2 wins
NM 17th 1
CA 16TH 2 wins
CO 14th 1
ES 10TH 1
WC 8TH 1
ME 7TH 1
PA 4TH 1
We have kicked more than 12 goals just twice since we were 5-0 and that was against fmd the 18th BL and 17th NM placed teams.We have managed it just 5 times all season the other three occasions against
you guessed it the 18th BL, 16TH CA and 14TH Co,
Since rnd 5 when everyone was creaming their pants over how freakin good they thought we were, we are 5 and 6 and looked second rate in just about every game.Mediocrity is the norm not the exception
People still creaming their pants how good the little fellas have supposedly been never for a minute considering that so many of them at once is the problem.
So much b/s out there and people keep falling for it.
Don't agree with that Claw early on with our new game plan run and carry and tackling it suited us we could match with the best.Don't forget we lost 4 or 5 games under 1 goal all winnerable lack of football smarts cost us and we a still mentally weake,that was against swans,giants etc.Last couple of weeks I have noticed going away from the new game plan playing more conservative like 2016 no run carry tackling etc and over use of football.
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we're kinda like gigolo's, just haven't had sex yet.....
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we're kinda like gigolo's, just haven't had sex yet.....
Absolute Gold :lol :lol :lol
POST OF THE YEAR
:bow
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Do we deserve finals now Mr C ??
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Let's worry about next week's game the suns we will go in as favourites and that's when we go onto our shell and have brain fades while other clubs have been pumping them.
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2 wins and a bit of % on the Eagles in 9th. 13 wins is usually the magical number to be a finals certainty. So we still need two more to tick that box off starting with the Suns next week. We need to mentally turn up though with the same intensity as after 1/4 time today. As we saw in the first qtr and in the previous two weeks, our worst would see us drop a winnable game and make today's win meaningless, as well as put us back in the pack of the sides chasing a top 8 finish.
Having said all that, we should be now aiming for top 2 or at least finishing in the top 4.
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4. Richmond
44 points (11 wins, six losses) 108.6 per cent
A huge win for the Tigers against the Giants in the proverbial 'eight-point game'. They’re a game clear in fourth and the double chance is theirs for the taking, but being Richmond, this will go down to the wire. If they can win four from five they should get it. The Hawks will make them earn it, but the Geelong game away after that is massive. Good luck trying to get a ticket for that one.
The run home
Rd 19: Gold Coast (Metricon Stadium)
Rd 20: Hawthorn (MCG)
Rd 21: Geelong (Simonds Stadium)
Rd 22: Fremantle (Domain Stadium)
Rd 23: St Kilda (MCG)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-23/the-run-home-your-clubs-road-to-september
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Won't beat Geelong....could win or lose all of the other four....never won at Metricon and Ablett's in form plus our history coming off good wins, Hawthorn coming home with a wet sail, Freo over there with Fyfe regaining some form, Walters bringing his own ball, Lyon outsmarting Halfstep...and then we just need at least a 12 goal turn-around v St.Kilda.... :gotigers
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Win all four remaining games and we finish in 2nd - provided Geelong beats GWS in round 23
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I will start believing if we can beat Geelong.
Until then I still don't reckon we deserve to play finals.
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Why won't we beat Geelong :huh
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Have you missed the last three decades of Richmond-Geelong matches?
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Based on the last 60 years the Bulldogs couldn't possibly win a flag last year ... oh wait!
Also, anybody who watched Adelaide disarm Geelong & stuff them would realize why we are perfectly equipped to do the same ... :shh
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Kardinia park is narrow, will suit us - i reckon we're a real chance against geelong - bookmark it
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Kardinia park is narrow, will suit us - i reckon we're a real chance against geelong - bookmark it
(https://s17.postimg.org/xj8mcls7z/IMG_0657.jpg)
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No apparentlywe'll beat them because Footscray won the flag last year....
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It's like asking if you'll make it to the crapier in time
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Kardinia park is narrow, will suit us - i reckon we're a real chance against geelong - bookmark it
(https://s17.postimg.org/xj8mcls7z/IMG_0657.jpg)
:snidegrin
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Oh dearie me we are gonna lose this match and that match.
Bunch of Shirley Temples.
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A tiger would beat a cat in a fight. Why wouldn't we beat Geelong?
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Michael Walters season is over - thus making the match against Fremantle more winnable.
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Should definitely beat Freo.
They're crap and will have the cue in the rack.
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This will be Freos last ever game at Subiaco oval - might give them extra motivation. Hopefully the cue is back in the rack.
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No apparentlywe'll beat them because Footscray won the flag last year....
We'll beat them because quite simply, if we don't crap bullets, wematch up well against them and should already have won 4 of our last 5 games in the past 5 years.
The issue isn't talent, game plan or coaching. It's finishing the stuffing job.
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Geelong by 40.
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This will be Freos last ever game at Subiaco oval - might give them extra motivation. Hopefully the cue is back in the rack.
Hopefully we put the cue back in their clacka
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Eight-pointers: Clutch games in the final five rounds
afl.com.au
26 July 2017
Round 20 - Richmond v Hawthorn, MCG, Sunday
The Tigers are well in the hunt for a top-four berth and would go some way to achieving that with a win over the Hawks. Richmond will be keeping a sneaky eye on what happens in the Showdown in Adelaide, as a Port Adelaide loss could see them jump two games clear of their South Australian rivals.
Round 21 - Geelong v Richmond, Simonds Stadium, Saturday
The two powerhouse clubs will face off at Simonds Stadium for the first time since 2012 in what shapes as a pivotal clash between two sides battling it out for a place in the top four. The hottest ticket in town.
Round 23 - Richmond v St Kilda, MCG, timeslot TBC
The Tiger army will be in full voice when Richmond meets the Saints at the MCG. Richmond could be playing for a top-four spot, while St Kilda's hopes of making the finals could well hinge on its final game. The Saints spifflicated the Tigers by 67 points when they met in round 16. Surely the result will be a little closer this time around?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-26/eightpointers-the-clutch-games-in-the-final-five-rounds
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Michael Walters season is over - thus making the match against Fremantle more winnable.
lol mat, Walters or not surely we dont need to rely on injuries to bottom teams to get over them. Should we not be wanting to play all teams at full strength so we can test ourselves after all if i believe tiger supporters like you we are a top side.
Play em at full strength and there are no excuses.I already know what you would say if we lost say Martin and got beat.
Up until finals you should want to play every team at full strength.After all it is one of few indicators of where you are in comparison to your opponents.
On the op fmd surely we are a lock for finals now but would it not be so Richmond like to fall in a hole and miss altogether. And that my friend is possible with just ione or two injuries to the wrong players and for me that says exactly where we are at.
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One win to go to make sure of at least finals. Top 4 now the goal.
Tigers solidify top-four spot
It wasn't the most convincing of wins by the Tigers, but the 33-point victory was still enough to solidify a top-four spot. With Port Adelaide's last-gasp win over St Kilda, Richmond needed a win to take fourth spot back. The Tigers now go into a mini tough run, coming up against a resurgent Hawthorn and bogey side Geelong at Simonds Stadium, before taking on Fremantle in Perth. The win over the Suns puts them a game clear of Port Adelaide in fourth position, an important buffer considering the Power's far superior percentage.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-29/five-talking-points-gold-coast-v-richmond
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The run home: Your club's road to September
afl.com.au
31 July 2017
4. Richmond
48 points (12 wins, six losses) 110.5 per cent
Richmond would no doubt enjoy the prospect of ending Hawthorn's season once and for all (and would please some other teams as well) if they can get the win in what shapes as a great Sunday afternoon matinee at the MCG. But more to the point, they could go two games clear of Port Adelaide in the race for the double chance if the Power gets beaten in the Showdown. The Geelong game to follow is mega as well, but first things first for the Tigers.
The run home
Rd 20: Hawthorn (MCG)
Rd 21: Geelong (Simonds Stadium)
Rd 22: Fremantle (Domain Stadium)
Rd 23: St Kilda (MCG)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-30/the-run-home-your-clubs-road-to-september
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Melbourne beat the struggling Giants .
Sydney beat the Dangerfieldless Cats
Richmond beat the Hodgeless Hawks
All that equates to the Tigers jumping up to second spot on the ladder .
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Melbourne beat the struggling Giants .
Sydney beat the Dangerfieldless Cats
Richmond beat the Hodgeless Hawks
All that equates to the Tigers jumping up to second spot on the ladder .
With the Cats the following week to consolidate that spot. But we got Dimma
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Champion Data has us as 96% to make the finals and 51% to make top 4.
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CHAMPION DATA FINALS CHANCES
CLUB TOP FOUR TOP EIGHT
Adelaide 98% 100%
Geelong 82% 99%
GWS Giants 78% 99%
Port Adelaide 60% 98%
Richmond 51% 96%
Sydney Swans 15% 89%
West Coast 6% 60%
Melbourne 5% 60%
Western Bulldogs 6% 52%
Essendon <1% 26%
St Kilda <1% 12%
Hawthorn <1% 9%
Collingwood 0% <1%
Fremantle 0% 0%
Gold Coast Suns 0% 0%
North Melbourne 0% 0%
Carlton 0% 0%
Brisbane Lions 0% 0%
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/the-run-home-hawthorn-a-sneaky-finals-chance-as-afl-clubs-prepare-for-pivotal-round-20/news-story/baf251c446b516a0bedf58b59933a690
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Seems to be a bit of backslapping and champagne cork popping in other threads about Dustys supposed brownlow win etc. Just wanted to give my prediction.
We win this week and and the backslapping continues meanwhile danger spends a week on the sidelines and watches on whilst his cats lose to swans this week. Managing their players fpr their the real statement game against richmond the week after.
You just couldnt script this stuff
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dont make top 4 and you can kiss another final series goodbye as you can almost guarantee it that we will lose.
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I know it's hard to have confidence because of the past but we need to believe and back the boys to many negatives on this topic.
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I know it's hard to have confidence because of the past but we need to believe and back the boys to many negatives on this topic.
Or we can all have the freedom to form and express our own opinions and not be demanded by others to think a certain way.
Think about if others went out of their way to demand of you how to think.
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Being a Richmind supporter surely you would even entertain that the punchline of the joke is only around the corner...
Its not the players... There's bad juju or curse on the club
We find new ones to punish ourselves all the time
And this non sense aout Dustys brownlow... we also have cotch and a number of players that could take votes off dusty. Hawthorns Mitchell doesnt have too much competition in his team but has been solid almost all year..
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i remember that year campbell was the outright favourite to win and got sfa. I was so excited as a kid in the lead up, but once again got smashed by the umpires.
could happen again
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i remember that year campbell was the outright favourite to win and got sfa. I was so excited as a kid in the lead up, but once again got smashed by the umpires.
could happen again
If you're talking about '95, Campbell wasn't outright favourite. I'm fairly confident on that.
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perhaps, but he was up there wasnt he?
I remember clearly he was right up there before the count
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perhaps, but he was up there wasnt he?
I remember clearly he was right up there before the count
I know he was one of the favourites and that Kelly was a massive upset. I'm relying on the old man's take on that one.
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perhaps, but he was up there wasnt he?
I remember clearly he was right up there before the count
I know he was one of the favourites and that Kelly was a massive upset. I'm relying on the old man's take on that one.
From memory Campbell was definitely top 3 favourite with ALOT of the media backing him in
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i remember that year campbell was the outright favourite to win and got sfa. I was so excited as a kid in the lead up, but once again got smashed by the umpires.
could happen again
Biggest one in my living memory was KB....
1974: 'KB' and Kangas in a spat
Richmond rover Kevin Bartlett was the hottest fancy in years. Here's an excerpt from an AFL Record feature on the night of the count:
Bartlett had won Richmond's best and fairest for the second successive season and had cleaned up the various media awards.
"I won 11 of them and came second in the other. I would say it was my best season," Bartlett said.
Back then, the Brownlow Medal count took place the Monday after the final round of the season. It was little more than a glorified sportsman's night, at which the 12 club captains would sit on the stage, manually updating their team's leaderboards.
The votes weren't called out on a game-by-game basis; rather, the single votes were read out first, followed by the two votes, with the three votes called out last.
Bartlett tried not to get caught up in the hype that night as he headed to Melbourne's Southern Cross Hotel.
"It was all about winning the premiership and everything else was second rate. Who cares about awards if you don't win the premiership?"
The League stage-managed the count to perfection. Melbourne ruck-rover Gary Hardeman emerged as the player to beat as the three votes were counted. Towards the end, he had 23 votes to North Melbourne wingman Keith Greig's 18 and Bartlett's 16.
Bartlett went to 22 votes with five votes to be counted. The feeling around the room was that his name would surely be called at least once more; it was his medal to lose.
But Greig, who had moved to 21, earned three more votes and regained the lead with 24. The next two votes went to Footscray's Barry Round and Hawthorn's Kelvin Matthews.
VFL secretary Eric McCutchan announced there was one vote to go. Sporting Globe chief football writer Greg Hobbs was sitting on Bartlett's table and dramatically took out his wallet, threw some cash on the table and loudly declared Bartlett would win on the last vote of the night.
McCutchan continued: "And the final vote, ladies and gentlemen, is K … Greig, North Melbourne."
All hell broke loose as Greig claimed his second straight Brownlow Medal. In their wisdom, the organisers had laid out the tables inside the ballroom with the clubs in alphabetical order, which meant the North Melbourne and Richmond contingents were seated alongside each other.
As soon as the count was over, Tigers secretary Alan Schwab and committeeman Charlie Priestley booed and hissed. Once outside the ballroom, Ron Joseph, the North secretary, challenged them and he and Priestley, a feisty former Richmond premiership player, then scuffled and nearly came to blows.
Schwab summed up the mood at Tigerland, telling The Age's Mike Sheahan: "It's a joke. Greig deserved to win a Brownlow, but not this year."
There was a twist in the tail of the building rivalry between the two clubs. September culminated in the Tigers beating the Roos to take that year's premiership, their second straight.
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Champion Data has us as 96% to make the finals and 51% to make top 4.
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CHAMPION DATA FINALS CHANCES
CLUB TOP FOUR TOP EIGHT
Adelaide 98% 100%
Geelong 82% 99%
GWS Giants 78% 99%
Port Adelaide 60% 98%
Richmond 51% 96%
Sydney Swans 15% 89%
West Coast 6% 60%
Melbourne 5% 60%
Western Bulldogs 6% 52%
Essendon <1% 26%
St Kilda <1% 12%
Hawthorn <1% 9%
Collingwood 0% <1%
Fremantle 0% 0%
Gold Coast Suns 0% 0%
North Melbourne 0% 0%
Carlton 0% 0%
Brisbane Lions 0% 0%
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/the-run-home-hawthorn-a-sneaky-finals-chance-as-afl-clubs-prepare-for-pivotal-round-20/news-story/baf251c446b516a0bedf58b59933a690
GWS 78% to make top 4 seems a little high . I think they are just hanging on at the moment . I can see them being replaced in the top 4 by us and or Port Adelaide.
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I know it's hard to have confidence because of the past but we need to believe and back the boys to many negatives on this topic.
Or we can all have the freedom to form and express our own opinions and not be demanded by others to think a certain way.
Think about if others went out of their way to demand of you how to think.
Someone needs to go smell the roses taking things way to serious. :o
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I know it's hard to have confidence because of the past but we need to believe and back the boys to many negatives on this topic.
Or we can all have the freedom to form and express our own opinions and not be demanded by others to think a certain way.
Think about if others went out of their way to demand of you how to think.
Can't see anywhere in his post where he says that others should think like him let alone "demand" it. Only see where he points out the general negative attitude of this thread.
It seems ok to call those that are generally positive about the team or club "apologists" but not to comment on the generally negative comments we see on this board.
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I know it's hard to have confidence because of the past but we need to believe and back the boys to many negatives on this topic.
Or we can all have the freedom to form and express our own opinions and not be demanded by others to think a certain way.
Think about if others went out of their way to demand of you how to think.
Can't see anywhere in his post where he says that others should think like him let alone "demand" it.
"...we need to believe and back the boys too many negatives on this topic"
What others need to believe in the context of the thread is up to them, not the demands of others.
BtW the apologist vs others thing - that has been done and finished. Last year. My point was a matter of free speech.
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I know it's hard to have confidence because of the past but we need to believe and back the boys to many negatives on this topic.
Or we can all have the freedom to form and express our own opinions and not be demanded by others to think a certain way.
Think about if others went out of their way to demand of you how to think.
Can't see anywhere in his post where he says that others should think like him let alone "demand" it.
"...we need to believe and back the boys too many negatives on this topic"
What others need to believe in the context of the thread is up to them, not the demands of others.
BtW the apologist vs others thing - that has been done and finished. Last year. My point was a matter of free speech.
"...we need to believe and back the boys too many negatives on this topic"
I take that as a rally cry like "hey guys lets get behind the boys" but you take it as a demand to think a certain way. We certainly see things differently.
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I know it's hard to have confidence because of the past but we need to believe and back the boys to many negatives on this topic.
Or we can all have the freedom to form and express our own opinions and not be demanded by others to think a certain way.
Think about if others went out of their way to demand of you how to think.
Can't see anywhere in his post where he says that others should think like him let alone "demand" it. Only see where he points out the general negative attitude of this thread.
It seems ok to call those that are generally positive about the team or club "apologists" but not to comment on the generally negative comments we see on this board.
:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
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KB is tipping us for the flag....Were F%$^%$^$%ed
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KB is tipping us for the flag....Were F%$^%$^$%ed
Yep, cue the 4 straight losses - miss the finals. Dusty won't sign and we don't get a deal secured so he walks to North for nothing. Jack forced to retire and Rance to walk away at the end of 2018.
So Richmondy.
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KB is tipping us for the flag....Were F%$^%$^$%ed
Have heard he doesn't want Dusty to with the Brownlow
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stuff KB. Il never forget that daily carry on over the chop stick scenario.
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stuff KB. Il never forget that daily carry on over the chop stick scenario.
Yep wanker, lost all respect for him after that. Refuse to listen to his bs show since then
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stuff KB. Il never forget that daily carry on over the chop stick scenario.
Yep wanker, lost all respect for him after that. Refuse to listen to his bs show since then
He wasn't the only flog to go early on it.
A few on here are guilty too. :shh
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Who do you want to win and lose in Round 20
Al Paton,
Herald Sun
4 August 2017
AS THE finals race heats up, which teams lose can be as important as your team winning.
So who should you be barracking against in Round 20?
RICHMOND
Port Adelaide got out of jail against the Saints but Tiger fans are hoping that doesn’t happen this week against Adelaide.
The GWS v Melbourne game is tough. If you’re optimistic you want the Demons to win, allowing Richmond to jump a game ahead of the Giants with a win against Hawthorn (another hit to their percentage would make it even better). More nervous Tiger fans might be hoping the Dees fall short, making a top-four finish more challenging but staying two games clear in the eight.
The Sydney v Geelong game is also complicated but given the Cats’ fixture for the rest of the year it’s hard to see them finishing any lower than third so keeping the Swans at bay is more important — go Catters!
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/as-finals-race-heats-up-who-loses-as-important-as-your-team-winning/news-story/3712f26099c9cb9e57facac672407cd9
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stuff KB. Il never forget that daily carry on over the chop stick scenario.
Yep wanker, lost all respect for him after that. Refuse to listen to his bs show since then
He wasn't the only flog to go early on it.
A few on here are guilty too. :shh
The 'victim' turned out to be a muck raking journo and played people for mugs.
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Win the next four and we end up top 2, lose the next four and we finish ninth.
Love the roller-coaster that is the mighty RFC.
:cheers
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Win the next four and we end up top 2, lose the next four and we finish ninth.
Love the roller-coaster that is the mighty RFC.
:cheers
Yeah it's always like this for us Tigers. Thing is its like this for most teams this year which is very unusual. Would much rather be in our spot than those between 5th and 12th.
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It's more likely we'd lose all four games. It's the Richmond way. :rollin
Like I've said before I won't believe until we beat Geelong.
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Season will play out like a long version of all those close losses....on the verge of finals, only needing one win from four but a series of dumb mistakes will see us lose them all and finish 9th... :gotigers
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It's more likely we'd lose all four games. It's the Richmond way. :rollin
Like I've said before I won't believe until we beat Geelong.
We wont beat Geelong with Danger and selwood playing. Not even remotley possible.
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It's more likely we'd lose all four games. It's the Richmond way. :rollin
Like I've said before I won't believe until we beat Geelong.
We wont beat Geelong with Danger and selwood playing. Not even remotley possible.
Yep
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4 RICHMOND 48pts, 113.7%
R20: Hawthorn (MCG)
R21: Geelong (SS)
R22: Fremantle (S)
R23: St Kilda (MCG)
Our prediction: MASSIVE day today. Tigers win and Power loses and a top-four spot is nearly assured. Can overtake the Cats and set up a monster Simonds Stadium blockbuster next week. While the Giants’ return to form isn’t ideal, they have a tough run. Could the Tigers play a home qualifying final?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/melbourne/run-to-the-finals-what-do-round-20-results-mean-for-your-team/news-story/4b046c4427451317d1e0012aa51df353
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Can't miss now. Well done boys. :cheers :thumbsup :clapping
.........now win a final!
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The magical 13 wins. With Crows stomping on Port two more wins should guarantee top 4? Winning all three would be massive for a real chance at second spot.
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We wont beat Geelong with Danger and selwood playing. Not even remotley possible.
Selwood out with ankle surgery for rest of home and away.
Hawkins one week for jumper punch?
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We wont beat Geelong with Danger and selwood playing. Not even remotley possible.
Selwood out with ankle surgery for rest of home and away.
Hawkins one week for jumper punch?
And Duncan to cop a week?
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Geelong are going to s#i+ themselves next week with our pressure. All aboard .
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The Run Home after Round 20
afl.com.au
6 August 2017
3. Richmond
52 points (13 wins, six losses), 112.0 per cent
A surprisingly straightforward win over the Hawks secures the Tigers in the top four that little bit more and the pressure football they played on Sunday should stand up in September. But first there is the small matter of Geelong and the true Saturday afternoon blockbuster down at the Cattery. If the Tigers can win all three games from here, a top-two spot beckons if the Giants stumble. An MCG qualifying final? How good would that be?
The run home
Rd 21: Geelong (Simonds Stadium)
Rd 22: Fremantle (Domain Stadium)
Rd 23: St Kilda (MCG)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-06/the-run-home-your-clubs-road-to-september
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Magic number achieved
That is all
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Geelong are going to s#i+ themselves next week with our pressure. All aboard .
Man seriously, I know you're excited. So am I but don't stuffing mozz us before we even play them.
Haven't beaten them for 10 stuffing years, I don't want to wait till next year...
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If we turn up to play we can win every game that's remaining.
To be sitting 3rd is an amazing achievement for the season, a lot of new players in the team.
Responsibility on 2nd tier and younger players to step up. Been a great success.
Hopefully they can just bring the pressure in September.
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Defy recent history and beat a banged up Geelong next weekend....a final against GWS must be considered plausible. Certainly a much more desirable option than playing the Crows in Adelaide.
:gotigers
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Here's a larf.
Just did a ladder predictor and had us finishing 3rd after losing this week to the Cats but beating St. Kilda.
We'd play GWS first round of the finals up there and then (if we lose) play the winner of Sydney v Essendon (obviously Sydney).
So we'd host Sydney in the 2nd week of the finals.
Good Times!
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Top 2 must be the aim now. GWS play the doggies fri night and the cats down at kardinia Park in the final round. This week is huge in the context of either just making top 4 and being hopeful or finishing top 2 and giving ourselves a serious shot with a home Final and not playing in Adelaide or Sydney.
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Friday night GO DOGGIES
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Friday night GO DOGGIES
They will let us down. Can never rely on other clubs.
If gws pip us by a spot on ladder its our own fault for dropping that game to them we had almost won
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Costly loss. We can forget about a home qualifying final now. Even 3rd spot is unlikely unless GWS beat Geelong at the Cattery. It's now about winning our last two games so we stay in the top 4 (Sydney had another thumping win).
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Week 1 Adelaide will murder us by plenty.
Week 2 Sydney at the G and we'll be 5 goals down at half time get to within 15 points in late in the 3rd. Shedda from 30 out will kick a point with Dusty 10 metres clear. Sydney will get a goal to Papley from the kick out with 30 seconds left after our point to get the margin to 20 points.
In the last quarter early on after a flurry of half chances that nets us peanuts Sydney will kick 3 in a row in a hurry to snuff out any hope with Dimma in the box looking blankly into space as the majority of the crowd head for the exits and new Australians from the British Isles and New Zealand in senior management positions for major Aussie corporations stay behind to revel in their newfound glory as if they were at Wembley watching the FA Cup or Eden Park watching the All Blacks crush the Wallabies.
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Cats are just lucky bastards.
Having a look at their draw they will play GWS at the G in the first week while we travel to Adelaide.
Our % has stuffed us for a home final at the G
assuming we win the next 2
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Yesterday was Final's Tigers.
Very Important game - Pressure - Can't win.
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Get on with it simple as that, you want to play finals you have to win even playing crows in SA.No more exuses this is our fourth finals campaign under Dimma make or break.
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Get on with it simple as that, you want to play finals you have to win even playing crows in SA.No more exuses this is our fourth finals campaign under Dimma make or break.
Unless your Cotchin and have another dirty final, then its ok as an excuse
#just9disposals #captaincointoss
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The run home after Round 21
afl.com.au
14 August 2017
4. Richmond
52 points (13 wins, seven losses), 110.5 per cent
The Tigers should be able to successfully negotiate the final two games of the season and earn themselves a double chance. But boy, how must they regret those three straight losses from rounds seven to nine – all by less than a goal – that kept them from likely finishing in the top two.
The run home
Rd 22: Fremantle (Domain Stadium)
Rd 23: St Kilda (MCG)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-13/the-run-home-round-21
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Get on with it simple as that, you want to play finals you have to win even playing crows in SA.No more exuses this is our fourth finals campaign under Dimma make or break.
Won't happen georgie, not a chance over my friend
Only hope is the week after against swans or port at the G
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Get on with it simple as that, you want to play finals you have to win even playing crows in SA.No more exuses this is our fourth finals campaign under Dimma make or break.
Won't happen georgie, not a chance over my friend
Only hope is the week after against swans or port at the G
Still tho I will not accept another straight sets out of the finals full stop something will have to give.Yeah its been a great season,but finals count for me.On our day we a capable of winning against anybody the question is will finals haunt us like in the past.
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Over to you Richmond: Finals destiny is in your hands
Brynn O'Connor
theRoar.com.au
15 August 2017
With the final two rounds of the home-and-away season upon us, the Tigers sit in the box seat to nail down their first top-four finish since 2001. But can they defy their old habit of stumbling in important games?
After Saturday’s untimely loss to a weakened Geelong outfit, Richmond have the feel of a learner driver who’s terrified that they are in control of where they want to go.
Compounding the feeling of angst is the looming pack that has formed behind them, looking to sneak into the top four and grasp a double chance.
Sydney is roaring home and – amazingly, after their 0-6 start to the season – sit in fifth spot, only a win behind the Tigers, while carrying a far greater percentage.
Port Adelaide is in a similar position, occupying sixth spot, just one win back. Although the Power are as consistent as Melbourne’s weather, their draw and percentage means they are a genuine prospect to snaffle a double chance.
Yet Richmond’s equation is simple: win the last two games and a spot in the top four is secure.
On paper, the Tigers appear to have a relatively easy run home, however it may not be as simple as it seems.
The first Test is a trip over to Perth to face a Fremantle outfit that is out of form and under scrutiny over inconsistent performances.
In an unusual twist, the Tigers’ past two games against the Dockers in Melbourne have resulted in losses to Ross Lyon’s men. However, Richmond can take solace in the fact that they have won their past two games against Fremantle at Domain Stadium.
Their final match comes against St Kilda, a team they have not beaten since 2015.
There is also the elephant in the room of that 67-point annihilation in Round 16, which must surely still be in the back of the players’ and coach’s minds. The potential saving grace though is that this time around, the match is at the MCG.
So what does Richmond need for everything to go right?
First and foremost, they need their big guns firing.
Against Geelong, Alex Rance, Jack Riewoldt and Dustin Martin were well below their best. In the last two weeks, that simply can’t happen.
The Tigers’ small forwards and midfielders must ensure they make the most of their scoring opportunities.
In four out of Richmond’s seven losses this season, their efficiency inside 50 has been less that 50 per cent, including three matches which resulted in less that 40 per cent of inside 50s being turned into scoring opportunities.
The match against Geelong was a perfect example of Richmond being unable to make the most of their chances, recording a paltry 35 per cent conversion rate inside 50.
Without another genuine tall forward to help Riewoldt, the winning scores must come from the mosquito fleet in Kane Lambert, Shane Edwards, Daniel Butler and Daniel Rioli if they are to sew up fourth spot.
It isn’t a fluke Damien Hardwick’s men are sitting in the top four.
The Tigers’ forward pressure, direct ball movement, and resolute defence has seen them emerge as a genuine premiership threat.
They just need to piece it all together and ensure that they don’t do a typical Richmond thing and let a promising season go to waste.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/08/15/richmond-finals-destiny-hands/
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Bloody hell I hate the swans. Destiny is in our hands and we know how that normally works out.
Ok
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I would be more confident in the team winning in Perth if a better team went across
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I'd rather play at home in Melbourne in week 1.
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I'd rather have 2 shots at it. I'd love to see us make top 4 and for swans to be eliminated first week. Pricks.
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swans if they dont make top 4 will play at the scg and wont be losing that.
On the flip side we will get 2 chances to embarrass ourselves again.
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Anyone seen the new Fox Footy finals ad yet..? Just as one the players says "Fear is in the mind", they cut to footage of BEllis dropping his head...haha...
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We'll be lucky to make them.
Lol @Ellis
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The media love trolling us.
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How Richmond Can Still Finish 9th
Richmond supporters - it's probably better you don't read ahead...
Currently sitting a game clear inside the top 4 with only two games remaining in the season, it's hard to fathom that the Tigers could still pull off a dreaded 9th-place finish.
But we've crunched the maths; and it's not as far-fetched as you might think.
RICHMOND
- Lose to Fremantle by 30+ points
- Lose to St Kilda by 60+ points
https://www.triplem.com.au/sport/afl/news/richmond-can-still-finish-9th
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Round 22 results and how they affect your team
JAMIE TATE,
Herald Sun
19 August 2017
TWELVE teams can still make the finals with two rounds to play.
Six clubs are legitimately in the hunt for a top-four finish and the double chance.
And five sides are fighting for the top two ladder positions that deliver a home qualifying final.
All supporters are desperate for their team to win this weekend, but it’s also time to keep a sneaky eye on those clubs that are around yours on the ladder. A loss by any of those rivals can be of considerable benefit to your favourite team.
In this unbelievably even season, who else should you be barracking for — and against — this weekend?
5. RICHMOND 52, 110.5%
R22 Fremantle (S)
R23 St Kilda (MCG)
We all know of a nervous Tigers fan or three and they chewed down a couple more fingernails on Friday night. A top-four finish is there for Richmond to grab. Should any of the Eagles, Magpies and Bulldogs win on Saturday, it might make turning on the TV to watch Fremantle v Richmond in Perth on Sunday night just a little less nerve-racking for members of the Tiger Army. Then again, probably not!
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/run-home-how-will-results-in-round-22-affect-your-team/news-story/397c3d761e25f9d8227c7a3a9b9dff59
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Simple if we good enough win the next two clinch top 4 anything less is choking.I won't be happy unless it's top 4
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Should any of the Eagles, Magpies and Bulldogs win on Saturday, it might make turning on the TV to watch Fremantle v Richmond in Perth on Sunday night just a little less nerve-racking for members of the Tiger Army.
0/2 so far....
...on the brightside, we're safely in the eight and can't finish 9th now.... :gotigers
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Simple if we good enough win the next two clinch top 4 anything less is choking.I won't be happy unless it's top 4
I agree that if we think we are good enough, we win our remaining 2 games.
Not sure it will be a choke, and at the start of the season I'd have gladly taken a finals spot, but would be disappointing not to make top 4 from here.
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please.
anything less than a win in september is a choke, its that simple.
Knowing who we will most likely be playing its almost worth missing the top 4, because lets face it this club wont know what hit them in the pressure stakes when they lose that first final.
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please.
anything less than a win in september is a choke, its that simple.
The reference was to our next two games, not finals.
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Simple if we good enough win the next two clinch top 4 anything less is choking.I won't be happy unless it's top 4
I agree that if we think we are good enough, we win our remaining 2 games.
Not sure it will be a choke, and at the start of the season I'd have gladly taken a finals spot, but would be disappointing not to make top 4 from here.
Yeah but considering the season we had and it's in our own hands to make top 4 and teams we should winning against.I would consider it a choke and missing out on the top 4 would put more pressure on us going into finals.Totally agree nothing less then wins in September, this is our fourth attemp under Dimma.
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We will finish 6th, just cannot see us winning our last 2 in order to finish top 4.
we have history that when the whips are crackin we simply don't, or cannot rise to the occasion.
After all is said and done, it will be a disappointing end to a season that was for the most part pretty exciting.
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Keep picking Houli, Grigg, BEllis & Edwards and wonder why it keeps happening....insert Einstein's quote here...
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Simple if we good enough win the next two clinch top 4 anything less is choking.I won't be happy unless it's top 4
Thoroughly agree, to even be thinking of a top 4 osition, we need to be able to have the ability to beat ANY team in the afl. If we come even close to losing the last two games, top 4 is just not worthy.
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After doing the ladder predictor, I've got three scenarios.
1. We beat both Freo & St K, Geel beats GWS. We finish 4th.
QF: Loss to Adelaide at the Oval.
SF: Beat Port at the 'G
PF: Geelong at the 'G (surely not Kardinia Park ::) )
GF: Adelaide, Sydney or GWS.
2. We beat both Freo & St K, GWS beats Geel. We finish 3rd.
QF: GWS at Spotless ....... need to win this otherwise play Swans at G' and even if we win that one we'll have next Adelaide at the Oval in the PF :P.
PF: Geelong or Port at the 'G
GF: Adelaide, Sydney or GWS.
3. We lose one of Freo or St K. End up finishing 6th.
EF: Melbourne at the 'G :-\.
SF: Loser of Geelong vs GWS.
PF: Adelaide at the Oval .... forget it! :P
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The only way I see us winning any final is if it's at the G. I think on our day there we can beat anyone. Adelaide and Sydney included.
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Lose to saints.
Finish 6th..
Lose to Melbourne week 1 of finals ...
grigg, bellis, houli have stinkers :thumbsdown
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4. Richmond
56 points (14 wins, seven losses), 116.7 per cent
The run home
Rd 23: St Kilda (MCG)
If the Tigers win
- They are guaranteed the double chance and could finish third if they make up the 1.6 percentage gap to GWS and the Giants lose. They will finish third if GWS beats Geelong.
If they lose
- Could drop as low as sixth if they lose to the Saints and both Sydney and Port Adelaide win, which they likely will.
Quick take: The Tigers more than took care of business against Fremantle. They were ruthless. Big Sunday finale against Saints who touched them up last time and Nick Riewoldt’s final game only adds to the occasion. But they’ll go much better than last time and on their home deck as well. Expect 75,000 to be there.
Predicted finish: Third
Predicted final match-up: Qualifying final v GWS @ Spotless Stadium
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-20/the-run-home-how-does-the-final-round-shape-up
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the x2 chance goes a long way for running deep in sept. the tigers really need to not flirt with form and come out firing and make nick riewoldt bawl his eyes out after losing in rnd 23.
also the only way I see Miles coming into the side who I unashamedly think is essential personnel for finals like footy is if we lost week 1 and maybe dimma will realise that you can play caddy, miles, prestia in the same team.....
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So the Saints will know by the Sunday game whether they can make it or not.
That might deflate them a little, but they still have Riewoldt's last game to send him out on a high note.
If we're a fair dinkum top 4 side, we'll beat them.
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How often do the Saints play at the MCG ??
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How often do the Saints play at the MCG ??
Dunno but worried about their pace :(
These are the types of games your BEllis, Grigg, Houlis stink it up
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"Goes without saying Tigers have done SFA in recent finals. But will qualify 4 out of 5 years. Only 70s champs have done that since 1940s."
— Jon Ralph (@RalphyHeraldSun) August 20, 2017
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-live-coverage-follow-all-the-action-analysis-and-reaction-from-round-22-super-sunday/news-story/f4fcd9065108f4f2bb2de8e6e16a75cb
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Don't know about you guys but I would feel better about playing the Giants at Spotless than the Cats at the MCG. Wouldn't be a better coming of age moment though to break our Geelong hoodoo in a QF.
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Don't know about you guys but I would feel better about playing the Giants at Spotless than the Cats at the MCG. Wouldn't be a better coming of age moment though to break our Geelong hoodoo in a QF.
You read my mind brother :shh
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Would love another crack at Geelong . No way Harry will kick 4 again .
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Astbury I think would go to him if we squared up against cats again. Rance at FF??????