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Title: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: one-eyed on August 25, 2019, 06:22:50 PM
Looks like everyone got through ok [touchwood].

Fire away with your changes, if any?
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Andyy on August 25, 2019, 06:27:54 PM
Bolton out. KMac in.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 25, 2019, 06:33:51 PM
Does Nank get back in? Nearly have to stick with Soldo.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Rampsation on August 25, 2019, 06:34:11 PM
Castagna out
Mcintosh in
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: 1965 on August 25, 2019, 06:36:40 PM
When does the VFL side play?
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 25, 2019, 06:47:09 PM
Geez I wish Stack was available.

I’ll leave the ruck combo up to the club to decide - not fussed either way.

My only out from today’s game would be short. Not sure who comes in, probably kmac at this stage.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: georgies31 on August 25, 2019, 06:47:21 PM
Short is a liability turns it over his best part of his game his not executing it , and panics he showed us last final series to.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: The Machine on August 25, 2019, 06:52:49 PM
No change for mine at this stage. Ellis was the worst for us IMO on the day but happy to play them again with the same team. Nank hasn't played enough footy to warrant a call up. BTW Short was good today :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Rampsation on August 25, 2019, 06:53:57 PM
Short is a part of a backline that only conceded 55 points today. Our problems are with some of our low skilled players.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 25, 2019, 06:55:27 PM
No change for mine at this stage. Ellis was the worst for us IMO on the day but happy to play them again with the same team. Nank hasn't played enough footy to warrant a call up. BTW Short was good today :shh

Disagree probably better in the second half but in the first half especially thought his disposal was very poor, continuously missing targets by both hand and foot.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Loui Tufga on August 25, 2019, 06:56:56 PM
Short or Baker for K Mac.
Short just hasn’t found form at all since coming back and imo we could use a taller guy to help out down back.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 25, 2019, 06:59:40 PM
Short or Baker for K Mac.
Short just hasn’t found form at all since coming back and imo we could use a taller guy to help out down back.
I thought Baker was good today.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 25, 2019, 07:03:52 PM
Short or Baker for K Mac.
Short just hasn’t found form at all since coming back and imo we could use a taller guy to help out down back.
I thought Baker was good today.

Baker stays was excellent today
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 25, 2019, 07:04:17 PM
Short or Baker for K Mac.
Short just hasn’t found form at all since coming back and imo we could use a taller guy to help out down back.
I thought Baker was good today.

Very good and has been for a month.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Rampsation on August 25, 2019, 07:07:26 PM
Short or Baker for K Mac.
Short just hasn’t found form at all since coming back and imo we could use a taller guy to help out down back.
I thought Baker was good today.

I thought so as well
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: one-eyed on August 25, 2019, 07:08:03 PM
When does the VFL side play?
Next weekend while the seniors have the week off.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: 1965 on August 25, 2019, 07:14:21 PM
When does the VFL side play?
Next weekend while the seniors have the week off.

Thanks, I think I'll wait until next week. Hopefully KMac puts in another good game.

 :cheers
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: one-eyed on August 25, 2019, 07:46:43 PM
Dimma hoping Nank can play seniors in a fortnight's time.

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The Tigers will likely have have 2017 premiership ruckman Toby Nankervis available for the first final after missing the round 23 clash with a groin injury. 

Ivan Soldo performed well against Brisbane ruckman Stefan Martin with 29 hit-outs and 14 disposals, so Hardwick has his options.

"It's a nagging type of injury. He trained today and he looked okay but it's an injury that will take some managing," Hardwick said.

"The rigours of AFL footy and rucking against some bigger type of opponents he probably didn't handle as well as we'd have liked last time [he came back from injury].

"Hopefully he pulls up okay and we can suit him up for Saturday week [against the Lions]."

Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-25/tigers-interstate-record-no-concern-for-hardwick)
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: lamington on August 25, 2019, 07:50:09 PM
My man Lynch going to play finals for the first time!!!!! He didn’t kick a bag but his presence is important for our structure. He will be primed for September.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on August 25, 2019, 08:53:07 PM
Mac the only inclusion for mine. Short, Baker, Rioli. Take ya pick of one of them to go out.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Andyy on August 25, 2019, 08:56:24 PM
Mac the only inclusion for mine. Short, Baker, Rioli. Take ya pick of one of them to go out.

Baker and Rioli very good today. Maybe Short. All were better thanBolton though!
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 25, 2019, 09:00:00 PM
BEllis and Bolton were poor today

Thought Baker was very good
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on August 25, 2019, 09:05:06 PM
Mac the only inclusion for mine. Short, Baker, Rioli. Take ya pick of one of them to go out.

Baker and Rioli very good today. Maybe Short. All were better thanBolton though!

Will have to watch a replay of the first half since I was babysitting the baby niece, didn't see much of the action  :police:
but wasn't impressed with a number of Rioli efforts in the 2nd half. Made Butler look like a hard case. Baker was alright but lacks polish, would prefer the hardness and versatility of KMac in a final if given a choice between the 2.

Bolton had low stats, yeah. Very classy and puts his head over it however.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on August 25, 2019, 09:12:53 PM
Ellis was poor today. Would prefer MacIntosh to replace  him.  Would normally say Soldo out but he has been better in the last few weeks. Baker was good today. We will need to improve on out conversions to win up there.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on August 25, 2019, 09:15:45 PM
BEllis must have had a shocker of a first half?

Was tough as nails in the 2nd, super courageous for the second week in a row. Top 10 B&F and a Dimma fav. Gotta pick another target boys gee sheesh....:shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 25, 2019, 09:20:07 PM
BEllis must have had a shocker of a first half?

Was tough as nails in the 2nd, super courageous for the second week in a row. Top 10 B&F and a Dimma fav. Gotta pick another target boys gee sheesh....:shh
Rioli was even better than Ellis today, but it wasn’t Ellis’s worst performance. Rioli looked like he was on the verge of hitting finals form.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on August 25, 2019, 09:24:00 PM
If Rioli had a different surname this forum would demand his Capuano papers for that effort on the wing where Houli smashed it out to him and it was Cotch and a Lion coming the other way....I suppose too much time can do things to a man....:shh

Did a few good things did Daniel but also reeked of human excrement on numerous occasions too. Never really gets called out for it, only a few do. Ah well

kumbaya i'm stoned btw amen
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 25, 2019, 09:47:29 PM
Rioli has been atrocious for ages. Today not much better. Too slow with the ball and kills momentum.

He needs a wake up call in the twos
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 25, 2019, 09:54:13 PM
If Rioli had a different surname this forum would demand his Capuano papers for that effort on the wing where Houli smashed it out to him and it was Cotch and a Lion coming the other way....I suppose too much time can do things to a man....:shh

Did a few good things did Daniel but also reeked of human excrement on numerous occasions too. Never really gets called out for it, only a few do. Ah well

kumbaya i'm stoned btw amen

Maybe Brandi can score him a locker next to his at visy park   :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on August 25, 2019, 09:56:10 PM
Rioli has been atrocious for ages. Today not much better. Too slow with the ball and kills momentum.

He needs a wake up call in the twos

HS been poo since he's had a GF, time to FHO and concentrate on footy. Plenty of quality women to meet later on
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on August 25, 2019, 09:58:57 PM
If Rioli had a different surname this forum would demand his Capuano papers for that effort on the wing where Houli smashed it out to him and it was Cotch and a Lion coming the other way....I suppose too much time can do things to a man....:shh

Did a few good things did Daniel but also reeked of human excrement on numerous occasions too. Never really gets called out for it, only a few do. Ah well

kumbaya i'm stoned btw amen

Maybe Brandi can score him a locker next to his at visy park   :shh

think you'll find it's down to us and GC. he is getting a godfather offer from the fat man's football department..... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Diocletian on August 25, 2019, 10:51:16 PM
Surely we can't carry Shortsteps McTurnover into another final series....absolute liabilty...no player's consistently made me more nervous whenever they've had the ball in the backline since McGoof... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Andyy on August 25, 2019, 11:31:41 PM
I thought Rioli was very good today. Bolton capable of pure magic but has really stunk it up the last few weeks. Honestly I think his contract situation is getting the better of him.

I thought B Ellis was poor, wouldn't put his body on the line as usual, and didn't seem to be making it to enough contests in general. He wasn't our worst though.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 25, 2019, 11:34:36 PM
we should never play bellis again.

1. because he was pathetic today

2. because he is leaving

3. kmac has more upside

this side of ours is only winning due to the best defence in the afl which include houli and throw in about 5 more. The rest are playing rubbish IMO especially the small forwards. FMD and towner is worse than all of them?

Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: eliminator on August 26, 2019, 06:36:06 AM
I thought Graham had an off game but wouldn't drop him. Agree with calls to bring in Kmac. Soldo was okay but we need more impact around the ground particularly in pack marking.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: georgies31 on August 26, 2019, 07:40:56 AM
Gez by going on previous post might as well drop half the side.Agree on Short his a panic merchant showed it last year to his best attribute kicking is way off.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 26, 2019, 09:53:45 AM
I know it’s early but here are my first thoughts considering the recent form of certain players. I don’t see a lot of the reserves so I’m only going by the Coaches rundown of the game. This may or may not change in the next week.

OUTS: Balta (isn’t ready), Ellis (had enough), Rioli (way off), Short (worsethanellis)

INS: Nankervis, Naish, Pickett/Markov(dependant on from in vfl final), McIntosh/Eggs (dependant on form)

B:David Astbury, Nathan Broad, Dylan Grimes.
HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Liam Baker.
C: Kamdyn McIntosh, Dion Prestia, Patrick Naish.
HF: Trent Cotchin, Tom Lynch, Kane Lambert.
F: Jason Castagna, Jack Riewoldt, Shai Bolton.
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards.
I/C: Ivan Soldo, Pickett/Markov, Jack Graham, Josh Caddy.

Emg: Jack Ross, Mabior Chol, Derek Eggmolesse-Smith, Dan Butler, Jacob Townsend
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: pmac21 on August 26, 2019, 11:15:33 AM
I know it’s early but here are my first thoughts considering the recent form of certain players. I don’t see a lot of the reserves so I’m only going by the Coaches rundown of the game. This may or may not change in the next week.

OUTS: Balta (isn’t ready), Ellis (had enough), Rioli (way off), Short (worsethanellis)

INS: Nankervis, Naish, Pickett/Markov(dependant on from in vfl final), McIntosh/Eggs (dependant on form)

B:David Astbury, Nathan Broad, Dylan Grimes.
HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Liam Baker.
C: Kamdyn McIntosh, Dion Prestia, Patrick Naish.
HF: Trent Cotchin, Tom Lynch, Kane Lambert.
F: Jason Castagna, Jack Riewoldt, Shai Bolton.
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards.
I/C: Ivan Soldo, Pickett/Markov, Jack Graham, Josh Caddy.

Emg: Jack Ross, Mabior Chol, Derek Eggmolesse-Smith, Dan Butler, Jacob Townsend

I can see your logic but there is no way they will make that many changes for a final (other than through injury) after a solid win. 

My only change would be Nank for Balta if he's fit.  They won't do this but would love Towner to come in a lay some hurt on a few Lions who were ultra aggressive with their tackling yesterday
Throw Graham as the hard tag on Zorko or Neale
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 26, 2019, 12:19:54 PM
Unless half side fall over or come down with food poisoning there is absolutely no way (rightly too I might add) Naish comes in

Ditto Mrakov, Egg-Smith or Pickett
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 26, 2019, 12:29:30 PM
Cotchin looked out of sorts yesterday. I was wondering whether it would be an idea to give him a run in the twos on Saturday? He's hardly played much football recently.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: 1965 on August 26, 2019, 12:33:58 PM
Need to have played at least 6 VFL games this year to play finals.
I think.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Diocletian on August 26, 2019, 12:44:39 PM
Need to bolster our midfield's ball winning capabity and bring in Ross and also so we can give a tagging role to Graham if need be - can't have Neale bringing his own footy with him again... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Andyy on August 26, 2019, 12:49:06 PM
Cotch better for the run, improved as the game went on.

Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Rampsation on August 26, 2019, 01:06:18 PM
Anyone who thinks pickett should come in cant be serious. Hasnt done anything to warrant senior selectiob.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 26, 2019, 01:08:17 PM
Anyone who thinks pickett should come in cant be serious. Hasnt done anything to warrant senior selectiob.
He won't be coming in.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Diocletian on August 26, 2019, 01:14:50 PM
Anyone who thinks pickett should come in cant be serious. Hasnt done anything to warrant senior selectiob.

Well for a start Ramps,unlike Shortsteps , who seems to be immune from criticism around here no matter how badly he plays, he won't shirk a contest, will lay some tackles, at least be partially accountable in defence and he even might hit his own players on the tit more than he does the opposition's...but lets see how he goes in the VFL this week first anyway... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Rampsation on August 26, 2019, 01:28:39 PM
Personally I also think Short should be dropped but just not for pickett. If Stack was available Id make that change.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 26, 2019, 01:42:33 PM
Need to have played at least 6 VFL games this year to play finals.
I think.
So Pickett can’t play? Not sure about that.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Diocletian on August 26, 2019, 01:56:18 PM
He's referring Cotchin's eligibility to play in the VFL finals... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 26, 2019, 02:02:03 PM
Anyone who thinks pickett should come in cant be serious. Hasnt done anything to warrant senior selectiob.
He won't be coming in.
What if he has a blinder in the first VFL Final? Will you both change your minds?
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 26, 2019, 02:12:30 PM
Anyone who thinks pickett should come in cant be serious. Hasnt done anything to warrant senior selectiob.
He won't be coming in.
What if he has a blinder in the first VFL Final? Will you both change your minds?
Sure. But Hardwick has not been impressed thus far.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 26, 2019, 02:13:25 PM
He's referring Cotchin's eligibility to play in the VFL finals... :shh
I know. However, Pickett hasn’t played the prerequisite number of games either..... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: 1965 on August 26, 2019, 02:19:36 PM
http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=0-118-0-0-0&sID=223956

Lots of rules.
Happy reading.

 :cheers
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: taztiger4 on August 26, 2019, 02:38:47 PM
http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=0-118-0-0-0&sID=223956

Lots of rules.
Happy reading.

 :cheers

This is more up to date

https://vfl.com.au/finals-eligibility/
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: 1965 on August 26, 2019, 02:57:11 PM
http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=0-118-0-0-0&sID=223956

Lots of rules.
Happy reading.

 :cheers

This is more up to date

https://vfl.com.au/finalsr-eligibility/

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: big tone on August 26, 2019, 03:21:37 PM
I know it probably won’t happen but I’d drop
Bellis and replace him with McIntosh.

The rest did enough to keep their spot.

Any news on Stacky??
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on August 26, 2019, 03:49:35 PM
http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=0-118-0-0-0&sID=223956

Lots of rules.
Happy reading.

 :cheers

This is more up to date

https://vfl.com.au/finals-eligibility/
Great stuff Taz! Thanks.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 31, 2019, 07:34:39 PM
From the half of VFL final I saw on tv I have reassessed my original team to take on Brisbane.
Naish, McInstosh, Markov no where to be seen.

Colours = must change.
Out: Ellis, Rioli, Balta, Short.
In: Nankervis,  Pickett, Butler, Ross. 

B:David Astbury, Nathan Broad, Dylan Grimes.
HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Liam Baker.
C: Shane Edwards, Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy.
HF: Trent Cotchin, Tom Lynch, Kane Lambert.
F: Jason Castagna, Jack Riewoldt, Shai Bolton.
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dustin Martin, Marlion Pickett.
I/C: Ivan Soldo, Dan Butler, Jack Graham, Jack Ross.

Emg: Marbior Chol, Derek Eggmolesse-Smith, Coleman-Jones, Conner Menadue.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: one-eyed on September 01, 2019, 05:44:43 AM
Tigers football manager Neil Balme said Nankervis was now likely to be recalled for Saturday night’s Gabba blockbuster in what would be just his second AFL game in nearly four months.

Balme even said Richmond was prepared to name both Nankervis and Ivan Soldo in the same side against the Lions.

“My gut feel is that we might even play both,” Balme told the Herald Sun.

“He (Nankervis) kicked the goal, which probably helps too. We might think about playing him forward a bit maybe.

“But we haven’t thought it through completely.”

Noah Balta was slated to play VFL but couldn’t shake a corked thigh he suffered against the Lions in the AFL last week.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/vfl-finals-updates-footscray-v-williamstown-port-melbourne-v-geelong-richmond-v-essendon/news-story/42d44e24453415595bf14030abf0bde2

But VFL coach Craig McRae said they would need to see how Nankervis recovered before they made a call on his availability for Saturday night's qualifying final against the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba.

"It all depends on how he pulls up. He's played three games so far this year and he's pulled up quite sore from them so we'll wait and see on that," McRae said.

"It's been a week to week … traditionally it's been 48 hours, the first training session [where we've known]. I'd say Monday we'll see how he pulls up.

"I know match committee were pretty keen to see how he goes in that ruck position, that second ruck, because I think that's where they've forecast him playing.

"At his best he'll be playing AFL footy, so if he pulls up well I think he'll be in the mix to be discussed because there's an opportunity there for him … we'll see how that pans out."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-31/big-nank-stars-as-tigers-pull-off-stunning-vfl-finals-comeback
Title: Will star Tigers duo Dion Prestia and Toby Nankervis face Brisbane? (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on September 01, 2019, 10:15:56 PM
Will star Tigers duo face Brisbane?

Jon Ralph,
Herald Sun
September 2, 2019


Dion Prestia has declared himself fit to take on Brisbane despite some lingering achilles pain ahead of Saturday’s final against Brisbane.

The Tigers players including Prestia went through a rigorous Saturday training session to ensure they kept up their training loads ahead of Saturday night’s qualifying final.

All top four sides are aware they might endure another week off if they win through to the preliminary final so are desperate not to loose too much conditioning.

For Prestia it was a chance to show he will be fit to play after pulling up sore in the round 23 victory over Brisbane.

“I like the (bye), it was just a chance to refresh a bit. It was a pretty big session yesterday to replicate a half (of footy) so it’s been good. I guess we will have a normal week. Head up on Friday so it should be pretty exciting to get up there,” he told Channel 9.

The Tigers will be desperate for ruckman Toby Nankervis to pull up well in coming days after his match-winning VFL finals performance off groin issues on Saturday.

Nankervis not only kicked the winning goal in the final seconds as Richmond came from 40 points down at quarter time, his midfield dominance was complete.

After a quieter first half he finished with 22 possessions, a dozen clearances, 33 hitouts and seven score involvements.

He could pair with ruckman Ivan Soldo, potentially at the expense of Noah Balta, who pulled up sore and didn’t play VFL after taking part in the Round 23 win over the Lions.

Soldo’s last three weeks have been the most consistent of his career, winning 14 possessions and 29 hitouts against Brisbane, although his hit-out-to-advantage win percentage remains at just over 11 per cent.

Balta had only five possessions against the Lions and while he and Mabior Chol can play forward the Tigers would be unlikely to drop Soldo, despite his lack of forward craft.

He has rumbled forward from the ruck to kick a goal in five of his past seven games but doesn't play as a traditional forward, so he or Nankervis would spend plenty of time on the bench under a two-ruck setup.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/dion-prestia-fit-to-play-in-qualifying-final-after-achilles-injury-toby-nankervis-set-to-be-named/news-story/beebc027a3bcd8da893c2125c5f54a78
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 02, 2019, 06:51:14 AM
Hit outs to advantage 11% so it begs the question how is he a better option than nank as some have suggested here

I even read some said to trade him

Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Willy on September 02, 2019, 08:50:27 AM
Didn’t get to watch the VFL game, did Marlion do enough to earn a senior debut?
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: pmac21 on September 02, 2019, 10:16:23 AM
Didn’t get to watch the VFL game, did Marlion do enough to earn a senior debut?
He was good but not quite.  Would have to come in for Ellis, Short or Bolton.  I can't see us dropping anyone of these 3. 
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Diocletian on September 02, 2019, 12:43:59 PM
Didn’t get to watch the VFL game, did Marlion do enough to earn a senior debut?

Him & Nankervis were basically why we won... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: The Machine on September 02, 2019, 01:11:02 PM
Didn’t get to watch the VFL game, did Marlion do enough to earn a senior debut?

Him & Nankervis were basically why we won... :shh


And Butler - his best 30 minutes of footy this year :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Diocletian on September 02, 2019, 01:17:37 PM
Butler did his job of finishing off the good work of others... :shh :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: sdc01 on September 02, 2019, 02:50:32 PM
nank 4 soldo
chol 4 balta
pickett 4 probably bolton unfortunately...should be others like shorty  but probably wont be

dimma has been busting to get pickett in
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: The Machine on September 02, 2019, 05:02:26 PM
Butler did his job of finishing off the good work of others... :shh :shh


Agreed - hats of to Menadue :clapping great game again :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 02, 2019, 05:46:09 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Diocletian on September 02, 2019, 05:58:43 PM
Butler did his job of finishing off the good work of others... :shh :shh


Agreed - hats of to Menadue :clapping great game again :shh

A good half at the level he truly belongs..... :clapping :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: big tone on September 02, 2019, 06:08:57 PM
After watching the footy on Saturday I would replace Bellis with Pickett. I originally wanted McIntosh for Bellis but Pickett showed he is worth the spot on our list... roll the dice!

Regarding Nank, I still think I would go with Soldo as first ruck but could Nank replace Bolta?
If so it gives us a lot less options but I’d be happy either way.

This week cannot go quick enough!!
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Diocletian on September 02, 2019, 06:32:48 PM
...and we won't go quick enough either if we play Nank & Slomo in the same side... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: one-eyed on September 02, 2019, 06:36:21 PM
Finals recall looms for big Tiger after recovery from VFL heroics

AFL.com.au
Sarah Black
Sep 2, 2019


RICHMOND ruckman Toby Nankervis looks likely to play against Brisbane and form a two-pronged attack with Ivan Soldo for Saturday night's qualifying final.

Nankervis has pulled up well from his starring role in the VFL, when he booted the winning goal to go with 33 hitouts, 22 disposals and three tackles from around 68 per cent game time.

It was his first game back after two weeks on the sidelines with groin soreness related to the 11-week adductor injury he suffered earlier this year.

Richmond has chosen one of Nankervis or Soldo as the No.1 ruck this season, with raw athletic utilities Mabior Chol and Noah Balta filling the forward/ruck role, but Soldo's strong form seems to have forced the slightly slower pairing.

Tigers coach Damien Hardwick said the big man had put his hand up to play.

"He's pulled up reasonably well today (Monday), so that's exciting for us. He'll train again tomorrow, then have a big session on Thursday, and we'll be able to make a more calculated call," Hardwick said.

"He started off a little bit slow (in the VFL), but then I thought he was probably the difference in the second half of the game, he was terrific.

"We're really keen to welcome him back and provided he gets through training, he'll be available to play, which is exciting for us."

It will be a rare double act from Nankervis and Soldo, who last played in the same AFL side in round 21, 2017 and have featured together just seven times, usually in the absence of Jack Riewoldt up forward.

Balta (corked leg) also still remains in the selection frame, despite missing the weekend's VFL game.

"We're probably going to go down the two-ruck path, so [Nankervis will] play as first or second ruck and only play that amount of time (68 per cent) for our footy club. That'll give him every opportunity to build on from there," Hardwick said.

"I think Ivan's been terrific. He had a slow first quarter last week, but the back end of his last three quarters was outstanding. He's just improved every week.

"From where he's come from, about four or five years ago, basically walking off the street to try out (as a Category B rookie), he's been incredible. He's got better and better every game, he's still learning, but we're happy with what he's been putting out on the park."

Round 23 was skipper Trent Cotchin's first game since his third hamstring injury for the year, with the timing of the pre-finals bye less than ideal for building momentum upon his return.

The captain spoke alongside his coach at a pre-finals press conference, saying he wasn't sure what mix of forward and midfield time he would play after spending large periods inside 50 at the MCG against the Lions.

"Going into round 23, aside from carrying a little bit of baggage from being injured throughout the year, I was really pleased with how the body was feeling from a bash-and-crash point of view," Cotchin said.

"Typically, I fall over the line at the back end of the year and hang out for that bye just before finals, but it's been a little bit different for me personally. I'm just really excited to sink my teeth into this weekend's game."

The Tigers are in the unusual position of playing the Lions in successive games, having beaten the second-placed side by 27 points in round 23.

Brisbane's All Australian midfielder Lachie Neale had 51 disposals in that match, but Hardwick wouldn't be drawn on whether a tagger will be employed.

"We're very much a systems-based side, so we'll back in our players to play their roles. We have contingencies when things get out of control," he said.

"It was a really difficult situation for us. We were probably five or six goals up and Lachie was having a significant impact … so we backed in our system and let it play for the vast majority of the game.

"Brisbane are very fortunate they have a fantastic midfield, (Dayne) Zorko is another player and he, I thought, had a significant impact on the game: 700 metres gained, a couple of goals and possession-wise was very high.

"So, they've got a number of good players that run through that part of the ground, and you might be able to take out one, but good sides can cover the loss."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-02/finals-recall-looms-for-big-tiger-after-recovery-from-vfl-heroics
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 02, 2019, 07:54:22 PM
Get the feeling from listening to the presser that if nank makes it through training this week it will be him and soldo as our rucks.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: JP Tiger on September 02, 2019, 09:04:27 PM
I like the Nank & Chol combo this week (assuming that fitness isn't an issue).  Nank is just that rock solid old fashioned ruck while Chol has the X factor with points of difference that would be nice to have.  Chol will handle the conditions (heat) better too.  Soldo has been quite solid this season, but I think Chol is the right horse for the course ...     :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: pmac21 on September 02, 2019, 10:49:58 PM
Can't believe people want Soldo dropped this week.  Complete insanity.  He's been so good and getting better.  Beat Grundy v Collingwood and provides what we've been lacking at centre bounces.  A contest. 
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: georgies31 on September 02, 2019, 11:04:22 PM
Totally agree lucky there not selectors we look so much better with the 2 rucks.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Diocletian on September 02, 2019, 11:14:50 PM
...or maybe some of us would prefer not to go into a final with a giant tortoise in place of an actual footballer and certainly not with another slow-ish ruckman in there as well...... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on September 02, 2019, 11:15:56 PM
Didn’t get to watch the VFL game, did Marlion do enough to earn a senior debut?
He was good but not quite.  Would have to come in for Ellis, Short or Bolton.  I can't see us dropping anyone of these 3.
I only watched a half but I’d easily replace him with any of those three player mentioned.
Not as scared as Ellis and takes the game on and has poise under pressure. 
Not as fumbling as Short and has skills to burn.
Not as young as Bolton and would do much better than what Bolton did last game.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Diocletian on September 02, 2019, 11:18:44 PM
Yes let's drop Bolton for his first final when there were clearly worse then we can all sit around wondering why when he peees off to back to Perth... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: one-eyed on September 03, 2019, 03:24:54 AM
Hardwick said Mabior Chol, Noah Balta and Callum Coleman-Jones were all behind Nankervis in the pecking order.

Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-set-to-double-up-on-rucks-for-lions-20190902-p52n63.html)
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Assange Tiger 😎 on September 03, 2019, 10:29:47 AM
Yes let's drop Bolton for his first final when there were clearly worse then we can all sit around wondering why when he peees off to back to Perth... :shh

 :shh :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: sdc01 on September 03, 2019, 11:23:04 AM
not sure how soldo beat grundy but anyway....fact is he aint as mobile as Chol so it would be a massive risk playing a (still getting fit) Nank and a improving but still a slow one position player together.....
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Andyy on September 03, 2019, 12:59:50 PM
Yes let's drop Bolton for his first final when there were clearly worse then we can all sit around wondering why when he peees off to back to Perth... :shh

Granted I also don't want Bolton to go, however we shouldn't play him purely because we're afraid he'll leave if he's dropped for finals.

I actually think his own personal contract saga is effecting his form!
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Diocletian on September 03, 2019, 01:50:51 PM
Caatagna & Short out before Bolton ...wouldn't drop Rioli because he usually lifts for finals and although he was still pretty oridinary on blance, he started to show signs of finding form last match...in fact according to OTC he tops the list of players who improve in finals, lifting his oiuput by 97%....mind you they also said Prestia plays worse in finals(I'd say last year brought that down)...and Clangerfield is one the worst finals chokers, but we already knew that... :shh

Interesting to note was that our forwrd pressure last week was the worst all year and we only laid one tackle in the forward 50 all game... :shh :shh

Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: one-eyed on September 03, 2019, 02:00:08 PM
Tigers’ massive selection gamble, heartbreaking Giant call

September 3, 2019
FOX SPORTS

It has been over 750 days since Richmond played Toby Nankervis and Ivan Soldo in the same team.

Foxfooty.com.au predicts how the top eight teams will look like in Week 1 of finals.

PREDICTED TIGERS 22:

B: David Astbury, Nathan Broad, Dylan Grimes

HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Jayden Short

C: Brandon Ellis, Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy

HF: Jason Castagna, Trent Cotchin, Kane Lambert

F: Shai Bolton, Tom J. Lynch, Jack Riewoldt

FOLL: Toby Nankervis, Shane Edwards, Dustin Martin

I/C: Daniel Rioli, Jack Graham, Ivan Soldo, Liam Baker

Team tips: It’s likely Brisbane will make just one change, with Allen Christensen (hamstring) to replace Cedric Cox.

Fagan’s counterpart, however, has some big decisions to make. Damien Hardwick was impressed by Tony Nankervis’ stunning second half in the VFL on the weekend, with the premiership ruckman expected to line up this Saturday against Stefan Martin. Ivan Soldo should hold his spot in the team, which would squeeze Noah Balta out, with Mabior Chol also being overlooked. Whatever the Tigers decide, it’s a gamble. Nankervis and Soldo haven’t played alongside each other at AFL level since 2017.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-team-tips-every-afl-clubs-predicted-22-for-week-1-of-finals/news-story/7e5ad6aa7d4bd28582db49e729e97d17
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: big tone on September 03, 2019, 02:15:42 PM
Caatagna & Short out before Bolton ...wouldn't drop Rioli because he usually lifts for finals and although he was still pretty oridinary on blance, he started to show signs of finding form last match...in fact according to OTC he tops the list of players who improve in finals, lifting his oiuput by 97%....mind you they also said Prestia plays worse in finals(I'd say last year brought that down)...and Clangerfield is one the worst finals chokers, but we already knew that... :shh

Interesting to note was that our forwrd pressure last week was the worst all year and we only laid one tackle in the forward 50 all game... :shh :shh
Rioli’s finals form can go up by that amount because his H&A form is average at best... And vice versa for the Danderfields’s and even the Prestia’s of this world.

George and Short aren’t going anywhere either... and neither should Bolton. The real imposter is Brandon.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: one-eyed on September 03, 2019, 02:22:50 PM
In the Mix - Qualifying Final

Sarah Black
afl.com.au
3 September 2019


RICHMOND

Get them in: Ruckman Toby Nankervis was the hero in the VFL, kicking the winning goal to go with 33 hitouts and 22 touches from around 70 per cent game time. Callum Coleman-Jones and Mabior Chol both performed well but inexperience could count against them. Marlion Pickett (22 disposals, two goals) was also named in the best.

Under the pump:
Versatile utility Noah Balta didn't have much of an impact against the Lions in round 23, but was impacted by a cork. He's expected to be available for selection.

Medical room: Despite reports of Achilles soreness, Dion Prestia trained strongly in a light session on Monday. Sydney Stack has returned to running on the weight-bearing Alter G treadmill after ankle surgery, but as a first-year player will be treated with caution.

Verdict:
Coach Damien Hardwick has said Nankervis just needs to get through training this week, with Balta the likely one to make way considering Ivan Soldo's strong form. Debuting in a final may be a bridge too far for Pickett.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-03/in-the-mix-whos-pushing-for-selection-in-week-one-of-finals
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: one-eyed on September 03, 2019, 02:32:29 PM
As mentioned in the Pickett thread:

Hardwick doubts Pickett will make AFL debut against Lions.


https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/hardwick-doubts-pickett-will-make-afl-debut-against-lions-20190903-p52nfb.html
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: georgies31 on September 03, 2019, 02:59:22 PM
Can't understand were this notion comes Soldo and Nank can't play together.Soldo takes rucking duties and Nank second ruck mobile around the ground he is no slouch and gets involved.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Andyy on September 03, 2019, 03:56:13 PM
Caatagna & Short out before Bolton ...wouldn't drop Rioli because he usually lifts for finals and although he was still pretty oridinary on blance, he started to show signs of finding form last match...in fact according to OTC he tops the list of players who improve in finals, lifting his oiuput by 97%....mind you they also said Prestia plays worse in finals(I'd say last year brought that down)...and Clangerfield is one the worst finals chokers, but we already knew that... :shh

Interesting to note was that our forwrd pressure last week was the worst all year and we only laid one tackle in the forward 50 all game... :shh :shh

Short maybe, but I can't agree with Castagna.

Despite his skill fluffs in front of goal he remains a key player for me. Manic attack on the ball, quick on the ground, good in the air, and usually hits the scoreboard albeit not often enough.

Automatic selection for me!
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Andyy on September 03, 2019, 03:57:53 PM
Can't understand were this notion comes Soldo and Nank can't play together.Soldo takes rucking duties and Nank second ruck mobile around the ground he is no slouch and gets involved.

Agree with this. I thought Nank actually looked quite mobile/agile in the VFL match which would indicate he's put the groin issues behind him.

Still, I think our future is going to be:
- CCJ 1st ruck / resting forward
- Chol 2nd ruck / forward
- Balta backup ruck / wing
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: sdc01 on September 03, 2019, 06:20:06 PM
if pickett gets in as an emergency...he'll be a last minute in IMO
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Simonator on September 04, 2019, 09:10:09 PM
Interesting player that isn't getting much attention.. Baker has come in and done well in the backline. Hit form at the right time and looks set to play his first final
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on September 04, 2019, 09:34:08 PM
Interesting player that isn't getting much attention.. Baker has come in and done well in the backline. Hit form at the right time and looks set to play his first final

Bakes is a ripper. Can now play all 3 lines too.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: one-eyed on September 05, 2019, 12:40:09 PM
Jack today in his presser has pretty confirmed Nank will come in to partner Soldo.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: the claw on September 05, 2019, 02:06:34 PM
hmm wont happen but for me id go with the following

Grimes - Astbury - Vlastuin. For me Balta plays on one of the kpfs.Give the kid the job of taking one of them out of the game.He just gives us the extra height and size we lack back there not to mention flexability.

Houli - Balta - Broad.  No panic merchant squib in Short. There are other options within the team  as well.

Ross - Martin - Pickett. Ross over squib it Ellis every day of the week.Kid showed he is ready to come back.  Picket over Caddy on a wing.

Nankervis - Cotchin - Prestia.  Nankervis and Martin are very similar type and size  of ruckmen Nank will make Martin accountable around the ground and give us virtually an extra big bodied mid when the ball hits the ground.

Edwards - Riewoldt - Lambert. Sorry no Rioli he has been poor the last 4 games and id prefer to give Chol a decent go in the dry and back up nankervis.

Castagna - Lynch - Chol. as stated chol for soldo and we have plenty of options to go smaller if we wish to do so during the game.

Caddy - Graham - Baker - Bolton.

Ins Ross Pickett, Chol, Nankervis
Out Ellis, Short, Rioli, Soldo.
Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Diocletian on September 05, 2019, 02:43:41 PM
Jack today in his presser has pretty confirmed Nank will come in to partner Soldo.

*Opens Sportsbet app.-sticks 50 on Brisbane*  :shh

Title: Re: Changes for the first week of the finals?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 05, 2019, 03:33:56 PM
Jack today in his presser has pretty confirmed Nank will come in to partner Soldo.

*Opens Sportsbet app.-sticks 50 on Brisbane*  :shh

Yesssssss double down big man  :clapping :clapping :clapping