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AFLW Round 10
RICHMOND vs Hawthorn
Sunday, 3rd November @ the Swinburne Centre, Punt Road Oval
Start time: 3:05 PM
Broadcast:
Ch 7 (Vic, SA, WA, Tas, NT)
7mate (NSW, Qld, ACT)
Fox Footy & Kayo (all states & territories)
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/6888
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AFLW Injury Report: Week 10
Player Injury Estimated Return
Imogen Brown Ankle Available
Rebecca Miller Hamstring tightness Test
Sarah Hosking Hamstring TBC
Amelia Peck Knee (MCL) Season
Shelby Knoll Knee (ACL) Season (inactive)
Montana McKinnon Knee (ACL) Season (inactive)
Katelyn Cox Knee (ACL) Season (inactive)
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Sarah Hosking, hamstring
"Sarah was pulled from the (Week 9) game in the final minutes. She has a pretty significant hamstring injury. We took her for a scan yesterday, so we'll have a good review of that today with the doctor and with Sarah herself, and then we'll see what her plan is going forward. But, she won't be available for selection this week."
Bec Miller, hamstring tightness
"Bec developed hamstring tightness late in the third quarter. After consultation with the doctor and the physio, we thought it was best for her not to return to the game, just to risk anything further happening. She's pulled up really well from the flight and from what she presented yesterday. So, we're hoping that she'll be right to get through training today (Tuesday), and we'll test her really well on Thursday and just make sure she's good to go. But, she's tracking quite well."
Imogen Brown, ankle
"Imogen returned to scrimmage on the weekend, which was great. She managed to get through a full scrimmage game so will be up for selection again this week."
Katelyn Cox (ACL)
Montana McKinnon (ACL)
Shelby Knoll (ACL)
"(They) were able to come to Darwin with us on the weekend, which was really good. For that balance of them being around the team, but also having access to our physios and doctors while they were away. So, they got some really good sessions in while they were away and were able to get amongst the community. They're tracking well. (Montana) and (Katelyn) are still developing a lot of strength in the gym and balancing that with still some really good recovery, while (Shelby) returned to contact last week, which is a great progression for her and she'll be coming in more and more drills."
Amelia Peck (MCL)
"(She's) currently in a brace, she didn't have to have any surgery, which was great. She'll return to normal processes in her day-to-day brace. It is tracking well, she was also able to come away with us on the weekend. We'll get her strength up in the gym and hope that she'll continue to progress over the next couple of weeks."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1685945/aflw-injury-report-week-10
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Backs: 28 Gabrielle Seymour, 15 Rebecca Miller
Half Backs: 20 Beth Lynch, 31 Isabel Bacon, 18 Libby Graham
Centre: 35 Maddie Shevlin, 22 Ellie McKenzie, 19 Kate Dempsey
Half Forwards: 1 Grace Egan, 3 Katie Brennan, 21 Charley Ryan
Forwards: 9 Caitlin Greiser, 27 Emelia Yassir
Followers: 14 Poppy Kelly, 2 Eilish Sheerin, 4 Monique Conti
Interchange: 33 Mackenzie Ford, 6 Jodie Hicks, 37 Tessa Lavey, 30 Ally Dallaway, 40 Tamara Luke, 16 Laura McClelland, 8, Molly Eastman, 29 Jemima Woods
INS: Charley Ryan, Tamara Luke, Molly Eastman, Jemima Woods
OUTS: Sarah Hosking (inj)
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How long have the sheila's been going now 6 or 7 years maybe. Still its almost as horrid as it was when they started.
No offence to anyone who has a daughter or spouse playing at this level but its not a good standard.
Just too hard to watch.
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How long have the sheila's been going now 6 or 7 years maybe. Still its almost as horrid as it was when they started.
No offence to anyone who has a daughter or spouse playing at this level but its not a good standard.
Just too hard to watch.
I’m on the side of thinking it’s rubbish
But blind Freddy can see it’s improving significantly
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How long have the sheila's been going now 6 or 7 years maybe. Still its almost as horrid as it was when they started.
No offence to anyone who has a daughter or spouse playing at this level but its not a good standard.
Just too hard to watch.
Take note of the young draftees coming through, they are significantly more skilled then the other sport converts that initially made up much of the teams
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Final Team
Backs: 28 Gabrielle Seymour, 15 Rebecca Miller
Half Backs: 20 Beth Lynch, 31 Isabel Bacon, 18 Libby Graham
Centre: 35 Maddie Shevlin, 22 Ellie McKenzie, 19 Kate Dempsey
Half Forwards: 1 Grace Egan, 3 Katie Brennan, 21 Charley Ryan
Forwards: 9 Caitlin Greiser, 27 Emelia Yassir
Followers: 14 Poppy Kelly, 2 Eilish Sheerin, 4 Monique Conti
Interchange: 33 Mackenzie Ford, 6 Jodie Hicks, 37 Tessa Lavey, 30 Ally Dallaway, 40 Tamara Luke,
Emergencies16 Laura McClelland, 8, Molly Eastman, 29 Jemima Woods
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How long have the sheila's been going now 6 or 7 years maybe. Still its almost as horrid as it was when they started.
No offence to anyone who has a daughter or spouse playing at this level but its not a good standard.
Just too hard to watch.
I disagree, I think it has improved significantly
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1687127/lynch-miller-to-reach-50-game-milestone
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Richmond v Hawthorn Preview
Gemma Bastiani
afl.com.au
1 Nov 2024
Last time they met: Richmond 6.5 (41) defeated Hawthorn 4.6 (30), round eight, 2023
Hawthorn was challenged last week, and it stood strong, proving that even when its own scoring isn't as free flowing as desired, it can stand up well defensively. In an ideal world, the Hawks want to quickly flick the ball around stoppage by hand, and then move to the space outside. They don't want to live in the contest, but understand its value as a launching point. As an added bonus to an already humming team, dangerous forward Greta Bodey is set to return from a toe injury after missing the last fortnight.
For Richmond, making it an aerial game is an important way to preserve control in the game. The Tigers are a reliable contested marking team, as well as the best mark inside 50 team in the League this year. They must use those weapons to keep the Hawks uncomfortable and out of the hands of their dangerous runners on the deck. The loss of Sarah Hosking as a pressure forward will hurt the Tigers, however, with her presence inside 50 an important aspect of their attacking game this year. Given Hawthorn's arsenal up forward, the idea of releasing someone like Beth Lynch out of defence is an unlikely one, but could be an option if things aren't going Richmond's way, given her ruthlessness and pressure.
Tip: The Hawks will secure the million-dollar prize. Hawthorn by 15 points.
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/news/1250967/w10-preview-finals-spots-big-bucks-on-the-line-in-epic-finish
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Home final on the line today
Win; home final guaranteed
Lose; relying 9n other results to go our way. Likely scenario we'll be travelling to Adelaide, Alberton Oval to be precise
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Surprised McClelland was dropped.
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Umps up to their usual crap standard ::). How was that HTB against Graham? The Hawthorn player was holding the ball in :facepalm.
Of course, the reverse case 10 secs later is not paid ::).
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Finally get it forward. Brennan's snap misses.
1 - 1
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Our skills by hand and foot are substandard especially by hand. I don't think I've seen a handpass that's hit anyone's chest.
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Hello wasting the breeze. Not keeping our heads inside 50.
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Our skills by hand and foot are substandard especially by hand. I don't think I've seen a handpass that's hit anyone's chest.
It doesn't help that we have a coach who wants us to handball more than kick.
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Terrible quarter by McKenzie. Only touched it a couple of times and hasn't hit anyone except once. She needs to get more involved because what's she's doing isn't working at all.
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Quarter time
Richmond 0.1-1
Hawthorn 0.2-2
A lesson in how to waste the breeze :facepalm.
When we play the top sides our cluelessness gets exposed.
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11 marks to 5 is an indication of the difference in ball movement and style.
The Hawks are more pinpoint and lower the eyes to look for a teammate that has worked hard to find space.
Our girls, on the other hand, aren't willing to work as hard off the ball to find space and create an option and it's just a kick and hope situation.
They'll want to be better in the second quarter without the breeze.
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Stats to QT:
Conti 9 disposals
Egan 8
Dempsey 4
Miller 4
Sheerin 4
Disposals 56 - 70 ..... ( contested: 26 - 33 )
Efficiency% 54 - 63
Marks 5 - 11
Clearances 9 - 8
Inside 50s 8 - 7
Tackles 23 - 19
Hitouts 9 - 11
Frees 2 - 2
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/6888#team-stats
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11 marks to 5 is an indication of the difference in ball movement and style.
The Hawks are more pinpoint and lower the eyes to look for a teammate that has worked hard to find space.
Our girls, on the other hand, aren't willing to work as hard off the ball to find space and create an option and it's just a kick and hope situation.
True but Ferguson doesn't want us to play that way either. He wants us to run the ball by linking up by hand. Problem is it puts us under pressure when it's not the right option and we stuff up.
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Better play with Graham by foot to Kelly to Brennan to Dempsey. But Dempsey misses.
We get it back from the kick in and Shevlin goals :gotigers
Rich 1.2-8
Haw 0.3-3
6 min Q2
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Can our smalls get front and square to our talls inside 50 :banghead.
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Much better ball movement this quarter. :clapping
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Luke arms held in the ruck contest = no free ::).
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Much better ball movement this quarter. :clapping
Finally kicking the ball more.
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Can our smalls get front and square to our talls inside 50 :banghead.
Again no one there :banghead
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Soft goal to give up just before half-time :scream.
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I thought the girls did a much better job that quarter with ball movement and transition but unfortunately not all the girls have the skills necessary to finish some good work already done.
McKenzie was much better that quarter. Shevlin has been busy. Conti is always a star. Seymour and miller have been pretty good in defence.
Brennan really needs to step up as captain.
Greiser is wasting the opportunity
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Half-time
Richmond 0.1 1.2-8
Hawthorn 0.2 1.5-11
Goal: Shevlin
Agree Tigeritis, better movement with the ball that quarter as we used our feet more. But our small/half forwards are letting us down. They are continually out of position and aren't in the game. So we either turn it over at HF or the Hawks easily clear it after the aerial contest inside our F50.
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Stats to HT:
Conti 13 disposals
Egan 9
Dempsey 9
McKenzie 8
Kelly 7
Miller 7
Sheerin 7
Shevlin 7
Lavey 5
Seymour 5
Brennan 4
Dallaway 4
Greiser 4
Hicks 4
Ford 3 .... off the ground during the 2nd qtr
Graham 3
Luke 3
Lynch 3
Yassir 3
Bacon 1
Ryan 1
Disposals 113 - 119 ..... ( contested: 49 - 62 )
Efficiency% 61 - 61
Marks 24 - 16
Clearances 14 - 15 .... ( centre: 1 - 2 )
Inside 50s 16 - 19
In50 marks 6 - 1
Tackles 40 - 34
Hitouts 16 - 15
Frees 6 - 8 :facepalm
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/6888#team-stats
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Umps are stuffen cheats
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Two different HTB rules out there ::)
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Frees 7 - 16 ::)
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Hawk goal.
8 - 18
Began with a BS free against us when we were going inside 50.
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Our skills are killing us. Terrible.
Even without any pressure at all our turnovers are just so bad
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Had to do better there Grace.
9 - 18
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Great kick Lynchy :gotigers
Rich 2.3-15
Haw 2.6-18
16 min Q3
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OMG ump #4 finally gave us a free.
Luke from the pocket misses.
16 - 18
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3/4 time
Richmond 0.1 1.2 2.4-16
Hawthorn 0.2 1.5 2.6-18
Goal: Shevlin, Lynch
A quarter of halves. Hawks dominated the first 10 mins. We had the better towards the end.
Umps up to their usual hopeless standard. Hawk players allowed to throw and drop the ball while we get pinged.
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Stats to 3QT:
Conti 19 disposals
Egan 14
Dempsey 11
McKenzie 11
Shevlin 10
Kelly 9
Lynch 9
Disposals 158 - 188 ..... ( contested: 71 - 89 )
Efficiency% 61 - 65
Marks 33 - 38
Clearances 20 - 20 .... ( centre: 3 - 3 )
Inside 50s 23 - 27
In50 marks 6 - 2
Tackles 56 - 44
Hitouts 23 - 22
Frees 11 - 18 :thumbsdown
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/6888#team-stats
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Clean up the skills, lower the eyes, work hard with our pressure and work off the ball and this game is ours for the taking.
We are playing @ home for a home final.
Let's bring it home girls.
:gotigers
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Geez we've made a stack of brainfades.
Sheerin's kick across HF to no one rather than going inside 50.
Graham running over the ball.
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Conti to Yassir 30 out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 3.4-22
Haw 2.7-19
5 min Q4
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No pressure on that hawks player. :help
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Flukey goal to Hawthorn from pocket.
22 - 25
Should not have been inside their F50 if our sweeper at the centre bounce wasn't selfishly ball hunting and didn't leave space for the Hawks to waltz out the front of the centre clearance. Defensive basics :banghead.
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Our F50 play today has been abysmal.
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Conti slices through traffic but misses.
23 - 25
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No composure out there. Panicking. That's why we are having so many brainfades.
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Poppy Kelly was having a pretty good game but all was undone by one stupid handpass over her head. :help
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Another brainfade. Handballing blindly backwards in D50 :facepalm. It just cost us the game :banghead.
23 - 32
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Downfield free to Hawthorn and another goal to them.
23 - 38
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Why are the girls in a Dreamtime jumper this week ?
Can’t be Dreamtime week again ??
Is there something wrong with the normal jumper ?
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McKenzie has had a terrible game.
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Who's on number 3?? :banghead
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LMAO at that downfield
Softest decision I’ve ever seen
Also, and I’ve watched 3 minutes of AFLW all year and have watched Hawks players dive to milk a free kick 4 times .. is this normal ??
Anyway , that’s me done for this year
Horrible
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Last 5-10 mins has been pathetic. We've just cracked and rolled over.
23 - 46
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LMAO at that downfield
Softest decision I’ve ever seen
Also, and I’ve watched 3 minutes of AFLW all year and have watched Hawks players dive to milk a free kick 4 times .. is this normal ??
Anyway , that’s me done for this year
Horrible
No one is going to defend the umpiring especially in AFLW games. It's disgraceful.
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Simple, we are not fit enough and not skilled enough and if we want to take the next step next year we really need to fix these two issues to compete with the better teams.
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LMAO at that downfield
Softest decision I’ve ever seen
Also, and I’ve watched 3 minutes of AFLW all year and have watched Hawks players dive to milk a free kick 4 times .. is this normal ??
Anyway , that’s me done for this year
Horrible
No one is going to defend the umpiring especially in AFLW games. It's disgraceful.
Hawks players are at fault
The diving was a disgrace
Made Ginnivan’s diving prowess appear second rate
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LMAO at that downfield
Softest decision I’ve ever seen
Also, and I’ve watched 3 minutes of AFLW all year and have watched Hawks players dive to milk a free kick 4 times .. is this normal ??
Anyway , that’s me done for this year
Horrible
TBF - without dodgy umpiring the AFLW there'd only be like 3 goals every game - (which according to some is perfectly fine because *checks notes* soccer is really popular) :shh
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Final Score
Richmond 0.1 1.2 2.4 3.5-23
Hawthorn 0.2 1.5 2.6 6.10-46
Goal: Shevlin, Lynch, Yassir
Last 10 mins was soft. We just caved. It's hard to see us winning a final in any case. Our gameplan is flawed (similar to the men's) and is exposed under pressure and we have too many passengers and too many who can't remain composed and keep their head.
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LMAO at that downfield
Softest decision I’ve ever seen
Also, and I’ve watched 3 minutes of AFLW all year and have watched Hawks players dive to milk a free kick 4 times .. is this normal ??
Anyway , that’s me done for this year
Horrible
No one is going to defend the umpiring especially in AFLW games. It's disgraceful.
Hawks players are at fault
The diving was a disgrace
Made Ginnivan’s diving prowess appear second rate
Not going to disagree with that but the standard of umpiring in AFLW is woeful every week. Add the AFL's hatred of Richmond and we get screwed most games. Only time it was decent and fair was when Razor Ray umpired one of our games earlier in the season.
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Out coached yet again.
No chance of winning a final if our coach refuses to do anything about the opposition transitioning out of defence without any pressure
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Why are the girls in a Dreamtime jumper this week ?
Can’t be Dreamtime week again ??
Is there something wrong with the normal jumper ?
Like men's comp Damo
Indigenous round is spread over 2 weeks
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LMAO at that downfield
Softest decision I’ve ever seen
Also, and I’ve watched 3 minutes of AFLW all year and have watched Hawks players dive to milk a free kick 4 times .. is this normal ??
Anyway , that’s me done for this year
Horrible
No one is going to defend the umpiring especially in AFLW games. It's disgraceful.
Stock standard umpiring display today. Pathetic sub-standard crap. There's not a doubt in my mind that standard of umpiring impacts on scoring.
If you think the Hawks diving is bad you need to watch Brisbane and N0rt
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Simple, we are not fit enough and not skilled enough and if we want to take the next step next year we really need to fix these two issues to compete with the better teams.
Don't agree with the not fit enough but do agree about the skills
The one thing you forgot is the game plan, tone exact the defensive side of our game, far too often it is non existent on opposition transition
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This team is going nowhere fast. Richmond 2013-15 era. Maybe good enough to make finals but are pretenders of the highest order. One of the softest draws you’ll see and only made the 8 by half a game.
This is the coaches 5th season and we have no recognisable identity in terms of game plan and whoever is in charge of the list is leaving holes in key positions.
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Why are the girls in a Dreamtime jumper this week ?
Can’t be Dreamtime week again ??
Is there something wrong with the normal jumper ?
Like men's comp Damo
Indigenous round is spread over 2 weeks
Confusing
Hawthorn appeared to be playing in a non-indigenous jumper
So it will be 5 weeks since playing in the traditional strip
Hopefully the girls know what it looks like
Side note - I thought the Hawks jumper looked sensational (when they weren’t diving for free kicks)
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I watched today’s game and also watched the games vs Essendon, Nord and Melbourne. You can make up all the excuses in the world but we just aren’t that good.
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Why are the girls in a Dreamtime jumper this week ?
Can’t be Dreamtime week again ??
Is there something wrong with the normal jumper ?
Like men's comp Damo
Indigenous round is spread over 2 weeks
Confusing
Hawthorn appeared to be playing in a non-indigenous jumper
So it will be 5 weeks since playing in the traditional strip
Hopefully the girls know what it looks like
Side note - I thought the Hawks jumper looked sensational (when they weren’t diving for free kicks)
That isn't their normal jumper. Their normal jumper is like the men's brown & gold stripes.
Nearly all AFLW side have worn their Indigenous guernseys this week.
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I watched today’s game and also watched the games vs Essendon, Nord and Melbourne. You can make up all the excuses in the world but we just aren’t that good.
For the list we have, we should be alot better.
The 4 games you've mentioned there is 1 constant, being out coached
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I watched today’s game and also watched the games vs Essendon, Nord and Melbourne. You can make up all the excuses in the world but we just aren’t that good.
For the list we have, we should be alot better.
The 4 games you've mentioned there is 1 constant, being out coached
So if they win , it’s the players
If they play badly, it’s the coach
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I watched today’s game and also watched the games vs Essendon, Nord and Melbourne. You can make up all the excuses in the world but we just aren’t that good.
For the list we have, we should be alot better.
The 4 games you've mentioned there is 1 constant, being out coached
So if they win , it’s the players
If they play badly, it’s the coach
Not disputing we played badly.
But when the coach refuses to make any changes to stop the opposition transition out of defence with zero pressure then that's on him.
We sends everyone forward of centre bar one player and allows the opposition to have no 1 but 3 spares than that's on the coach.
That you get interviewed lat qtr time (last week) and say the opposition is getting to many uncontested marks and don't bother to do anything about it until the final qtr, then sorry that's on the coach.
Ferguson is very much like Dimma in that he is so stubborn he refuses to make any changes and revert to plan "b"
I've said a number of times when our game style comes off we are brilliant to watch but when it isn't working then we are crap and it's up to the coach to change it up. He rarely does until it is far too late
So now we are off to Adelaide next week for our elimination final
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That list is overrated. We have 1 stand out player, a sprinkling a good players and the rest can barely hit a handball target. Most of them fail the basic skills like how to pick up a ball at any pace. The coaching won’t make much of a difference. While I understand why we might blame the coaching it’s 100% the lack of quality footballers on the list
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Hawks surge late to overcome Tigers
By Sarah Black
AFL Media
3 Nov 2024
RICHMOND 0.1 1.2 2.4 3.5 (23)
HAWTHORN 0.2 1.5 2.6 6.10 (46)
GOALS
Richmond: Yassir, Shevlin, Lynch
Hawthorn: McDonagh 2, Williamson, Gilroy, Eardley, Ashmore
BEST
Richmond: Conti, Kelly, Egan, Dempsey, Lynch
Hawthorn: West, Bodey, McDonagh, Smith, Vukic, Fleming
INJURIES
Richmond: Nil
Hawthorn: Nil
Reports: Nil
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Richmond couldn't get the job done against a fast-finishing Hawthorn on Sunday at the Swinburne Centre, going down by 23 points.
In a perfect finals warm-up for both sides, played with high intensity throughout, the Hawks kicked clear late to win 6.10 (46) to 3.5 (23), sewing up a home qualifying final and the $1 million McClelland Trophy.
The win was capped off with a stunning intercept-turned-goal from Kaitlyn Ashmore to put the cherry on top of a $1 million sundae.
Kicking with a gusty wind in the first term, Richmond locked the ball inside its attacking half, but struggled to find a mark inside 30 metres, with skill errors also an issue.
It took until five minutes into the second term for the goal deadlock to be broken, Richmond winger Maddy Shevlin kicking truly from the pocket. Just prior, Aine McDonagh had selflessly let a Mattea Breed shot dribble through, but it clipped the post.
McDonagh (two goals) and Bec Miller were involved in an intriguing battle, the pair matching up well physically with their similarly long reaches, and Miller also keen to rebound as much as possible.
The game devolved into one of ping-pong in the third term, bouncing between the arcs as the Hawks tried time and time again to pierce Richmond's backline, eventually finding a clear path for McDonagh's first.
A Lynch kicking goals on Punt Road Oval drew rapturous applause, defender Beth converting a rare opportunity as brother Tom watched on for her 50th game, former Hawk Tam Luke's behind then setting the margin at a solitary behind at the final break.
Mon Conti led all-comers in the disposal count, but didn't have nearly enough support, with Hawthorn players filling seven of the top 10, Eliza West superb in a hard-working, four-quarter performance.
The Tigers had no answer for Greta Bodey, who ran hard on the wing throughout and took a brave intercept mark in the first term, running back with the flight of the ball.
Lucy Wales spent some time on the sidelines receiving treatment late in the fourth quarter, but returned to the field.
The uncontested game
Richmond was torn apart by Essendon in the draw last weekend, conceding 40 marks as the Bombers well and truly controlled the outside. It's a similar style to what Hawthorn like to play, chipping around until it's time to hit the accelerator. While the Hawks only sat nine ahead in the mark count, they had 32 more uncontested possessions.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1688771/hawks-surge-late-to-overcome-tigers
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Team Stats:
Disposals 221 - 263 ..... ( contested: 103 - 123 ; uncontested: 109 - 141 )
Efficiency% 60 - 65
Kicks 126 - 156
Handballs 95 - 107
Turnovers 70 - 65
Marks 39 - 48 .... ( contested marks: 5 - 3 )
Tackles 72 - 62
Clearances 22 - 29 .... ( centre: 3 - 7 ; stoppages: 19 - 22 )
Inside 50s 29 - 40
In50 eff.% 35 - 40
In50 marks 8 - 6 .... ( 2 - 5 in the second half )
In50 tackles 14 - 19
Hitouts 32 - 27
Bounces 2 - 2
One %ers 26 - 31
Frees 15 - 22 :thumbsdown
Individual possies:
Conti 25 .... (13 cont), 6t, 305m gained, 5in50, 3 score inv, 2 assists
Egan 18 .... 6t, 3 cl, 245m gained, 3in50
Dempsey 15 .... 5m, 5t, 250m gained, 4in50
McKenzie 14 .... 4m
Kelly 13 .... 4m, 24ho
Lynch 12 .... (9 cont), 4t, 7int & 1 goal
Shevlin 12 .... 263m gained & 1 goal.
Brennan 11 .... 4m, 201m gained
Seymour 11 .... 237m gained, 3in50, 6int
Sheerin 11 .... 6t, 222m gained
Lavey 10 .... 5int
Miller 10 .... (7 cont), 202m gained
Dallaway 9 .... 5t
Graham 8 .... 4t, 5int
Ford 7 .... 5t
Hicks 6
Luke 6 .... 4t, 3 cl, 8ho
Bacon 5
Greiser 5
Yassir 4 .... 1 goal.
Ryan 3
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/matches/6888#team-stats
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(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2024/11/03/51986dab-14c8-47e8-9812-69ab84f37fa8/TvIWTcsn.png?width=451&height=268) (https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1688680/aflw-week-10-ferguson-lynch-post-match)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1688680/aflw-week-10-ferguson-lynch-post-match
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That list is overrated. We have 1 stand out player, a sprinkling a good players and the rest can barely hit a handball target. Most of them fail the basic skills like how to pick up a ball at any pace. The coaching won’t make much of a difference. While I understand why we might blame the coaching it’s 100% the lack of quality footballers on the list
I look at the list and ask (as people have done with our men's side btw) how many would get a game in any other side in particular those in the top 8
I come up with 6 8 easily
Conti
McKenzie
Dempsey
Seymour
Shevlin
Egan
Sheerin
Lynch
There are others but that's a start
That's why I think we have a strong list
I watch a lot of AFLW and in comparison to other clubs our lists is one of the better ones
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Do you rate our list as being better than the Dees and Bombres?
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Do you rate our list as being better than the Dees and Bombres?
Based on what I've seen
Better than the Bombers absolutely
The Demons, no, not at this time. But the 8 of listed above would easily get a game with wither the Bombers a d Dees
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Geiser never stands up when needed. Another Sheehan stuff up
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That list is overrated. We have 1 stand out player, a sprinkling a good players and the rest can barely hit a handball target. Most of them fail the basic skills like how to pick up a ball at any pace. The coaching won’t make much of a difference. While I understand why we might blame the coaching it’s 100% the lack of quality footballers on the list
I look at the list and ask (as people have done with our men's side btw) how many would get a game in any other side in particular those in the top 8
I come up with 6 8 easily
Conti
McKenzie
Dempsey
Seymour
Shevlin
Egan
Sheerin
Lynch
There are others but that's a start
That's why I think we have a strong list
I watch a lot of AFLW and in comparison to other clubs our lists is one of the better ones
Problem is WP from what I can see and correct me if I’m wrong as I’m far far from an expert, other than gabby, you’ve just named a bunch of mids/flankers. Our key position stock at both ends is what is holding us back. We don’t have anyone that can take a contested mark up fwd which is more troublesome then it would be in other teams as we just bomb it long every time. Down back, I always get the sense that they are equally likely to drop a sitter and/or fumble the ball as they are to mark it or take possession cleanly.
Gabby had a much better season last year, playing as a mobile ruck around the ball rather than being stranded down back where she can’t influence the game.
Also disagree about Egan, not sure she’s in the upper echelon of mids in the comp whereby she’d be a walk up starter at the other finals teams.
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Problem is WP from what I can see and correct me if I’m wrong as I’m far far from an expert, other than gabby, you’ve just named a bunch of mids/flankers. Our key position stock at both ends is what is holding us back. We don’t have anyone that can take a contested mark up fwd which is more troublesome then it would be in other teams as we just bomb it long every time. Down back, I always get the sense that they are equally likely to drop a sitter and/or fumble the ball as they are to mark it or take possession cleanly.
Gabby had a much better season last year, playing as a mobile ruck around the ball rather than being stranded down back where she can’t influence the game.
Also disagree about Egan, not sure she’s in the upper echelon of mids in the comp whereby she’d be a walk up starter at the other finals teams.
Firstly, on Egan; understand your point but as she is considered by most as one of the best inside mids in the comp. That's why why IMHO she'd easily get a game in other sides. He role isn't to amass huge stats but to get the ball out to the likes of MonCon... is she elite? No, but for the role she's there to play she's one of the best going around.
I deliberately left out any of our KP forwards because I wasn't prepared to face any pile on about player A or B not being fit enough or not good enough. Our game plan as it stands is beyond flawed because our small FWDS are never front and square at marking contests. On Sunday the number of times Greiser was one out with at least 2 but usually 3 and sometimes 4 was staggering. Not quite sure how she's supposed to take a contested mark? But if the likes of Yassir and Ford had been at the foot of the contest then things would have most likely been different.
Further to that I reckon the set up is wrong. I'd be playing Brennan out of the square as the lead forward inside 50 and have Greiser at CHF, that's where she takes most of her contested marks. But what would I know :-\
And just on key forwards in the AFLW, there are only a couple in the entire comp who I'd describe as power forwards. Bonnie Toogood from the Bombers is the stand out to me. She is IMHO the best contested mark in the comp. Since the comp started the focus has never really been on key forwards, it has mainly been on mids/flankers. That is clearly slowly changing and Richmond no doubt, needs to change with it
On our key backs, I believe both Miller and Graham would get games (easily) but I left them off my initial list as Libby has too many brain fades that cost goals, not that you'd know as it rarely gets mentioned on the coverage. And I think Miller has struggled this year with the speed of the game
Finally, the most improved player for us this year is Poppy Kelly and I reckon there are few sides who wouldn't mind having her as their 1st ruck. And just on Poppy, kudos to Shaun Hampson for the work he's done with Poppy it certainly has paid off in spades :clapping
Obviously this is just my take on things.
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I’ll Defs defer to your analysis on it WP as my exposure to AFLW is limited to tigers games only.
Regarding the key forwards, not sure if it was an outlier but Melbournes key forward were clunking their fair share of solid contested marks. I said it in that game thread but I thought if you switched our key forwards for theirs we would have won comfortably. Again not sure if they were just playing particularly well that day or it’s a fault of our defenders but it stood out to me.
Agree that Poppy Kelly has shown a fair bit this season. Not sure where that leaves Gabby as I think she’s far better around the ball. Maybe that can throw her in as an oversized mid or a winger or maybe try her up forward?
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Our team is littered with players who absolutely try their hearts out but fumble, miss targets by hand and foot, generally looking a class below. I get the point about a lack of gameplan but it’s hard to know if it’s the coaches lack of gameplan or lack in faith of the playing list to execute it
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It’s the coaches job to come up with a game plan that suits his players and their skill sets. It was what Dimma and his team finally got right in 2017.
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Problem is WP from what I can see and correct me if I’m wrong as I’m far far from an expert, other than gabby, you’ve just named a bunch of mids/flankers. Our key position stock at both ends is what is holding us back. We don’t have anyone that can take a contested mark up fwd which is more troublesome then it would be in other teams as we just bomb it long every time. Down back, I always get the sense that they are equally likely to drop a sitter and/or fumble the ball as they are to mark it or take possession cleanly.
Gabby had a much better season last year, playing as a mobile ruck around the ball rather than being stranded down back where she can’t influence the game.
Also disagree about Egan, not sure she’s in the upper echelon of mids in the comp whereby she’d be a walk up starter at the other finals teams.
Firstly, on Egan; understand your point but as she is considered by most as one of the best inside mids in the comp. That's why why IMHO she'd easily get a game in other sides. He role isn't to amass huge stats but to get the ball out to the likes of MonCon... is she elite? No, but for the role she's there to play she's one of the best going around.
I deliberately left out any of our KP forwards because I wasn't prepared to face any pile on about player A or B not being fit enough or not good enough. Our game plan as it stands is beyond flawed because our small FWDS are never front and square at marking contests. On Sunday the number of times Greiser was one out with at least 2 but usually 3 and sometimes 4 was staggering. Not quite sure how she's supposed to take a contested mark? But if the likes of Yassir and Ford had been at the foot of the contest then things would have most likely been different.
Further to that I reckon the set up is wrong. I'd be playing Brennan out of the square as the lead forward inside 50 and have Greiser at CHF, that's where she takes most of her contested marks. But what would I know :-\
And just on key forwards in the AFLW, there are only a couple in the entire comp who I'd describe as power forwards. Bonnie Toogood from the Bombers is the stand out to me. She is IMHO the best contested mark in the comp. Since the comp started the focus has never really been on key forwards, it has mainly been on mids/flankers. That is clearly slowly changing and Richmond no doubt, needs to change with it
On our key backs, I believe both Miller and Graham would get games (easily) but I left them off my initial list as Libby has too many brain fades that cost goals, not that you'd know as it rarely gets mentioned on the coverage. And I think Miller has struggled this year with the speed of the game
Finally, the most improved player for us this year is Poppy Kelly and I reckon there are few sides who wouldn't mind having her as their 1st ruck. And just on Poppy, kudos to Shaun Hampson for the work he's done with Poppy it certainly has paid off in spades :clapping
Obviously this is just my take on things.
Agree WP. There's too many basic flaws in our gameplan. This I might add goes for both our men's and women's teams. The lack of basic defensive positioning does my head in as it's schoolkid stuff :banghead.
As you mentioned, our small forwards don't get front & square :banghead. They are always out of position in no man's land. Being front & square is not only fundamental from an attacking sense, but it also acts as defensive positioning against the opposition sweeping the ball from one end to the other. The same thing happens at stoppages. We don't protect the defensive side and the opposition repeatedly exits out the front of the stoppage. Geez, I wonder why we get beaten in the middle and at ground level in the forward line so often ::).
Then there's our obsession to continually over-handball and gift turnovers even when a kick is the best and most obvious option. It kills our momentum on transition and heaven help our key forwards trying to figure out when and where to lead when upfield we are going sideways and backwards by hand. Even in wet weather, Ferguson still had us doing it :facepalm.
Sorry, the coach being outcoached has cost us too many games this year.
ps. Just on Poppy Kelly. Agree, her improvement this year has been remarkable. Last year she was a liability and had no impact. This year she is a totally different player. Credit to her.
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Speaking of our list, Ellie McKenzie & Emelia Yassir have made the AFLW 22 Under 22 squad.
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