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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Bulluss on April 19, 2007, 10:45:57 PM
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Just mentioned on the footy show that Nick Riewoldt is out of contract this year.
If we appoint Thomas as an assistant or some other role, he could take Miller's job and probably do better.
Surely with Thomas and young Jack, Nick would walk to Punt Road and be the perfect replacement for Richo.
A bit far fetched but we can only dream!!!!
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Yep Judd, Riewoldt, Pavlich and Dal Santo all out of contract and have delayed negotiations. Hmmm 2 classy KPPs and 2 classy midfielders - just what we need ;D :thumbsup.
Seriously how close are Jack and Nick? Unless Nick walked out of the Saints and into the PSD for nothing which is wishful thinking it would cost a fortune in picks and $$$.
Disagree about Grant Thomas Bully. I don't think we need another St Kilda man at Punt Rd to stuff up a young list ;). We complain about the number of injuries we've got but look what happened at the Saints under Thomas.
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If we appoint Thomas as an assistant or some other role, he could take Miller's job and probably do better.
A bit far fetched but we can only dream!!!!
I'd take on Grant Thomas as an assistant even if it were for the sole purpose of getting Riewoldt!
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riewolt is bery close to browny , so u never know
talking about the footy show thow, luke hodge and ***** lyon mocked our team and our list making fun iof us, the smug bastar.ds. wanted to jump into the tv screen and punch teh living poo out of them, esp hodge laughing about our "big" outs in moore patto and howat and being a smart @rse saying they are huge losses and will be missed (or something there abouts)
(Edited:for avoiding the swear filter- "F" word)
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It's just empty words X - nothing more. You seem to have some real anger issues.
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Nick to Richmond - say it isn't so ;D
Actually cannot see him leaving the Saints - Grant wouldn't let him :thumbsup
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It's just empty words X - nothing more. You seem to have some real anger issues.
no anger issues what so ever, i just get peed off when these w@nkers bag our club.
im not the one with issues
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no anger issues what so ever, i just get peed off when these w@nkers bag our club.
im not the one with issues
Personally I really don't care what other CLubs, other fans and those in media think about the Tigers. What I care about is our Club.
As for G Lyon - he's had a bad week. And let's be honest he probably does know a fair bit about under performing teams that get over-rated by the media - he played for 1 for what over 10 years :rollin :rollin
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Jack and Nick are actually pretty close as is the whole family. Remember that Nicks father only moved to Qld from Tassie when Nick was about 9 and the family ties are still very strong. Cant see that impacting on where Nick plays though and from Jacks perspective he needs to make his own way and doesnt need to be in anyone's shadow.
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nick is out of contract but is staying at st kilda ...
his manager 1 week ago said "he is not going anywhere!"
this was on the radio and just happen to hear it ...
he also said that nick is "purely a saint" ...
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no anger issues what so ever, i just get peed off when these w@nkers bag our club.
im not the one with issues
Personally I really don't care what other CLubs, other fans and those in media think about the Tigers. What I care about is our Club.
Well said WP :clapping.
As for G Lyon - he's had a bad week. And let's be honest he probably does know a fair bit about under performing teams that get over-rated by the media - he played for 1 for what over 10 years :rollin :rollin
:lol
Funny how he wrote an article about us this week and not on his beloved Demons. Now which club thought they were a premiership chance this year but is currently holding up the other 15 teams Garry :whistle.
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The Pies are apparently sniffing around Nick Riewoldt despite their denials. Where there's smoke....!
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21637081%255E19742,00.html
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Nick Del Santo is also out of contract at the saints from what Ive been told.
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The Pies are apparently sniffing around Nick Riewoldt despite their denials. Where there's smoke....!
Is Nick considering moving if he or his manager talking to other clubs?
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I don't reckon any of 'em would want to come here in the first place but for arguments sake I'd be more interested in Pavlich over Riewoldt and Dal Santo over Judd.
Dal Santo - because he would cost a third to a half of what we'd have to pay Judd and is still a top liner. Pavlich - I just rate him on a level above Riewoldt. Maybe not as outrageously athletic, but I reckon he's far more versatile and consistent. For mine he's on par with Jon Brown.
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I also agree that Del Santo is the one to be targetting.
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Although his silky skills would be welcomed not sure if Dal Santo is the type of midfielder we are lacking. We need a genuine skillful inside ballwinner.
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Although his silky skills would be welcomed not sure if Dal Santo is the type of midfielder we are lacking. We need a genuine skillful inside ballwinner.
i agree, and i dont even rate him , he is another down hil skiir. he looks gr8 when the saints are up, but gois missing when they are not
lenny hates and luke ball would be the only two players i would want out of their
nick riewolt is just another richo, athletic and shocking kick for goal, we dont need him
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lenny hates and luke ball would be the only two players i would want out of their
Before they got seriously injured yep. Now damaged goods sadly especially Ball.
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lenny hates and luke ball would be the only two players i would want out of their
Before they got seriously injured yep. Now damaged goods sadly especially Ball.
i know ball was concussed, didnt realise he would suffer long term from it, hydes hit was harder imo
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lenny hates and luke ball would be the only two players i would want out of their
Before they got seriously injured yep. Now damaged goods sadly especially Ball.
i know ball was concussed, didnt realise he would suffer long term from it, hydes hit was harder imo
He has been concussed numerous times; not just once like Hyde. It's the OP too that has made Ball a shadow of himself. There are serious doubts on his future as a footballer. I would say Ball's career is even more at risk than Cogs.
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lenny hates and luke ball would be the only two players i would want out of their
Before they got seriously injured yep. Now damaged goods sadly especially Ball.
i know ball was concussed, didnt realise he would suffer long term from it, hydes hit was harder imo
He has been concussed numerous times; not just once like Hyde. It's the OP too that has made Ball a shadow of himself. There are serious doubts on his future as a footballer. I would say Ball's career is even more at risk than Cogs.
not good at all
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Anyone know if Hamish McIntosh and or Cameron Wood are out of contract ... any of the two would be a good pick up in the psd.
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Please not Nick Riewoldt....just what we dont need another crybaby....
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Anyone know if Hamish McIntosh and or Cameron Wood are out of contract ... any of the two would be a good pick up in the psd.
The Roos won't allow McIntosh to leave. He's been a major reason behind their past two wins. Gave poor old Stephen King a bath.
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Saint makes club sweat
by: Paul Gough
Sportal
Thursday, May 17, 2007
St Kilda co-captain Nick Riewoldt revealed on Thursday he is set to start contract negotiations with the club but the champion forward has not publicly committed himself to remaining with the Saints.
Full article at: http://sportal.com.au/football.asp?i=news&id=98838
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Nick Riewoldt isn't going anywhere ...
just rumors guys ...
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Someone needs to keep a tally on all these rumours and then at the end of the year tick off which ones came true.
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If I heard right they were saying on SEN last night that Riewoldt's new contract would make him the highest paid player so I think we can forget about him.
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Talk of Saints leaving after this year is going to gather steam after today. Butterss came out of the blue this morning on SEN and accused Thomas (Butterss said an ex-coach) of undermining the club via his relationship with the players.
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We need a genuine skillful inside ballwinner.
who doesn't? unfortunately perfect players don't grow on trees. we miss coughlan big time, his absence is hurting the development of blokes like tambling / meyer / polo. connors is a pretty tough customer, hopefully he'll start to come thru after another preseason.
patience.
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Talk of Saints leaving after this year is going to gather steam after today. Butterss came out of the blue this morning on SEN and accused Thomas (Butterss said an ex-coach) of undermining the club via his relationship with the players.
I think Butterss personal conflict may have screwed the Saints. In hindsight, Thomas was a very capable coach and they will pay for letting him go.
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Talk of Saints leaving after this year is going to gather steam after today. Butterss came out of the blue this morning on SEN and accused Thomas (Butterss said an ex-coach) of undermining the club via his relationship with the players.
I think Butterss personal conflict may have screwed the Saints. In hindsight, Thomas was a very capable coach and they will pay for letting him go.
When a Club president says that even if the coach had won a flag he would've still been sacked then his dismissal obviously had nothing to do with the coach's performance. The question mark over Thomas will always be why did so many Saints keep copping injuries under his coaching and why did the list go backwards since 2004. Then again nothing much has changed under Lyon.
For the Saints' future Butterss needs to go now as well.
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For the Saints' future Butterss needs to go now as well.
agree. butterss is the problem, not the solution.
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we miss coughlan big time, his absence is hurting the development of blokes like tambling / meyer / polo. connors is a pretty tough customer, hopefully he'll start to come thru after another preseason.
patience.
Yep Cogs has been a big loss. Just goes to show how good Foley has been without much help.
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They've got some Saints official on SEN now saying they what Butterss said needed to be said, the board supports it and they won't say anything or go into details because it would unfairly embarrass their young leaders/players. Things happening behind the scenes which are inappropriate. A journo asked if it was anything illegal and the official wouldn't answer that. They won't though or can't stop players talking to anyone.
So by saying nothing the Saints have embarrassed their current coach by saying he doesn't have the ear of all the players and these players can't distinguish between the old coach and new coach :whistle.
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Probably garbage but the latest rumour flying around is Dal Santo wants out of the Saints.
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Probably garbage but the latest rumour flying around is Dal Santo wants out of the Saints.
Thanks but no thanks
Before this year I would be jumping at Dal Santo, but this year it is showing that he is a downhill skier. Hayes coming off a knee-reco and Ball being belted from head to toe means that he has had to win his own ball, something which he is struggling to do.
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If Dal Santo is the best player available in the PSD and hes salary isnt clearly over the top and we have the 1st pick we are obligated to take him.
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If Dal Santo is the best player available in the PSD and hes salary isnt clearly over the top and we have the 1st pick we are obligated to take him.
In that situation yes but not as a result of a trade
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Some caller on the radio the other day reckons Dal Santo has been playing with a broken toe over the past month.
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Some caller on the radio the other day reckons Dal Santo has been playing with a broken toe over the past month.
Perhaps it was Nick trying to make excuses for his poor form :rollin
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Ch 7 are claiming "comedian" Steve Bedwell is going to challenge Butterss and there are some out there claims by Saint supporters about what's going on http://www.saintsational.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31260
St Kilda - the experts in self-implosion.
And people wonder why no Victorian club has won a flag in 7 years. A club divided with people with their own agenda falls. Same goes for Richmond.
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And people wonder why no Victorian club has won a flag in 7 years. A club divided with people with their own agenda falls. Same goes for Richmond.
So true Mr One-eyed so very true ;)
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Ricky Nixon on Riewoldt and whether he will be at Stkilda next year. NO COMMENT walks away
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Can tell you his manager has spoken to Syd, Brisbane, Kangas and the tiges ;)
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Hutchy alleges the Saints aren't happy with Thomas having a few beers with players and talking contracts.
Ricky Nixon on Riewoldt and whether he will be at Stkilda next year. NO COMMENT walks away
Ricky trying to bump up Nick's new contract.
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Can tell you his manager has spoken to Syd, Brisbane, Kangas and the tiges ;)
You'd expect Brissy to be favourite if he does leave.
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Getting a Riewoldt would mean we could swap Schulz to one of the Adelaide clubs or anyone looking for a key forward and get something decent in return. Another player or a pick. I still firmly believe that RFC is obligated to its members to get a star player through the door via the PSD if we finish last.
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Riewoldt turns 25 in October. One thing to consider given we are a few years away at least from becoming a top side.
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Can tell you his manager has spoken to Syd, Brisbane, Kangas and the tiges ;)
You'd expect Brissy to be favourite if he does leave.
They'd have trading currency, but we have Browny and his cousin.
Though, i'm not overly concerned if we get him or not. I wouldn't care either way.
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I heard today that infact we could be more interested in Dal Santo rather than Riewoldt but who knows. Maybe jacko would know more.
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I only caught the end of Greg Denham with KB yesterday but if I heard properly he mentioned there's been rumours where we've been linked to Riewoldt. Yet today in his article he only says "it is known that several clubs have inquired as to Riewoldt's intentions beyond this season."
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21900828-2722,00.html
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Nick Riewoldt is on Footy Classified tonight (@ 10.35pm). They say they are going to quiz him over where he'll be next year.
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I think we all know what he is going to say ::)
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Nick gave nothing away, what a suprise ::)
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Jack's cousin and Dal Santo to remain at the Saints.
NICK Riewoldt and Nick Dal Santo will reject huge offers from rival clubs to stay at St Kilda, with Riewoldt tipped to easily cross the magical $1 million mark in football earnings.
Riewoldt's contract, which is expected to span three years, will centre around football and marketing components.
For example, he would receive an estimated $700,000 football contract which will be counted in the salary cap and up to $300,000 in marketing which is not included.
Personal endorsements and sponsorships from companies such as Toyota, Nike, Vodafone and the National Australia Bank, add another estimated $200,000.
Dal Santo, the subject of interest from several clubs, is in the range of $450,000-$500,000 a year from football alone, and is likely to include incentives such as best-and-fairest finishes, All Australian representation and even Brownlow Medal performances.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22020270%255E20322,00.html
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Nick is a big sissy.
In time he'll just do the wowoedin and pee all his team mates off because
he's just a big sook.
Do we really want a guy that sat on the bench and cried like a baby??? :-* :-* :-*
Played some great footy but still unaccomplished,imo
LMAO@ Him being worth 1mil - stuff that poo.
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nick a sook yes, and his just another richo, even though he kicked str8 v us, he is an unreliable marking machine that rarely demolishes teams on the scoreboard
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nick a sook yes, and his just another richo, even though he kicked str8 v us, he is an unreliable marking machine that rarely demolishes teams on the scoreboard
yes, but that is not his primary role in the team.
his role is to be an avenue to goal, not neccessarily the goal-kicker
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nick a sook yes, and his just another richo, even though he kicked str8 v us, he is an unreliable marking machine that rarely demolishes teams on the scoreboard
yes, but that is not his primary role in the team.
his role is to be an avenue to goal, not neccessarily the goal-kicker
true , got me there
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I seriously hope that Sarge pulls his head in and starts making use of his talents.
Imagine a forward line like this:
Brown, Schulz, Clever
Peterson, Jack, Blingers :o
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Jack has shown JACK !!!
Why the expectation ?
What if his last name was Black ?
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Jack has shown JACK !!!
Why the expectation ?
What if his last name was Black ?
jack is developing wonderfully at coburg!
doing and shown much more than all other kpp of that draft, totally dominating at coburg.
jacks time will come
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Jack has shown JACK !!!
Why the expectation ?
What if his last name was Black ?
jack is developing wonderfully at coburg!
doing and shown much more than all other kpp of that draft, totally dominating at coburg.
jacks time will come
ditto. watch the VFL ox, you might see that there is light at the end of the tunnel.
BTW, IIRC there Coburg's match is on telly on Satday. If Jack doesn't get called up you will get to see him in action :thumbsup
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Yes boys I do.
He plays good VFL footy but so do many others who ultimately end up being labeled as Duds
that can't produce at senior level.
His one senior appearance was a non event.
I am yet to be convinced.
Apart from Staff saying we need him because he's vocal I can't see anything else yet.
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suppose all the kids from the draft are crap apart from gibbs
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suppose all the kids from the draft are crap apart from gibbs
yeah, except the kids who went interstate, they play in competitions that aren't full of duds ::)
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Yes boys I do.
He plays good VFL footy but so do many others who ultimately end up being labeled as Duds
that can't produce at senior level.
His one senior appearance was a non event.
I am yet to be convinced.
Apart from Staff saying we need him because he's vocal I can't see anything else yet.
Pros: Footy smarts, excellent reader of the play, good skills, good mark, good work ethic. All up a natural footballer.
Questions marks: Speed. I think this showed up in his one AFL appearance. He would've learnt how much faster the AFL is played at compared to VFL and how you also need the endurance to keep it going for 4 quarters. It's only his first year and it'll take a couple of preseasons to get his bulk, speed and endurance up to the level required. We've seen with Foley that players can improve their pace. Much easier to do than teach an athlete footy smarts.
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Yes boys I do.
He plays good VFL footy but so do many others who ultimately end up being labeled as Duds
that can't produce at senior level.
His one senior appearance was a non event.
I am yet to be convinced.
Apart from Staff saying we need him because he's vocal I can't see anything else yet.
Its not Jack's fault his on field game time was limited against Essendon.
It was almost as if Terry wanted to select him just to digress from the same old same old questions of we had not won a game and he could reply look at all the players that have debuted in the last few years or this year. He had named him as an emergency from the Port game and Crows one and he expected us to lose those but he chose to bring him in against the Dons in a game we had a fair chance of winning to perhaps put a positive spin on another black night for us. Not that anyone knew how things would pan out anyway.
Jack is a very likely prospect and I am eagerly awaiting his continual development and more regular and consistent selection in our senior side. :thumbsup
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Yes boys I do.
He plays good VFL footy but so do many others who ultimately end up being labeled as Duds
that can't produce at senior level.
His one senior appearance was a non event.
I am yet to be convinced.
Apart from Staff saying we need him because he's vocal I can't see anything else yet.
Pros: Footy smarts, excellent reader of the play, good skills, good mark, good work ethic. All up a natural footballer.
Questions marks: Speed. I think this showed up in his one AFL appearance. He would've learnt how much faster the AFL is played at compared to VFL and how you also need the endurance to keep it going for 4 quarters. It's only his first year and it'll take a couple of preseasons to get his bulk, speed and endurance up to the level required. We've seen with Foley that players can improve their pace. Much easier to do than teach an athlete footy smarts.
with foley he has always had pace, just didn't utilise it on the field
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Questions marks: ....... It's only his first year and it'll take a couple of preseasons to get his bulk, speed and endurance up........
mighty - you've summed it up there. He's only a kid, people are placing huge expectations on him
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not to mean any offence but I think the expectations we have of Jack are a fraction of what other clubs have on their kids.
Take Gibbs and Murphy, some Carlton fans expect that these 2 players will pull this club out of a rut and into a GF.
It is a given that they are talented but I would call that an unrealistic expectation