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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on August 02, 2007, 10:20:30 PM
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Turn on the footy show. Hutchy about to talk about this.
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Now they've gone to a commercial break ???
Hutchy said some surprise big name has gone to the "money men" not connected with the Club. This is happening away from the club. Hutchy said not to panic Tiger fans.
Hutchy coming back later on on the show.
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Meh.
He'll probably come back on and say what we've been talking about for weeks.
HI HUTCHY! :blah
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so whats the story coz im not watching it....
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so whats the story coz im not watching it....
Hutchy didnt say much except for the title of the thread really.
Said he'd probably be back later.
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Ron Joseph, Jackstar?
What kind of supporter are you and your "Executive" mates.
Leave our club alone :banghead
Unbelieveable
:banghead :banghead
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Ron Joseph (a director of North Melbourne) has approached names about paying out Wallace and a chance to get Sheeds.
Wants a meeting with David Mandie and Clinton Casey. Casey aware of meeting but didn't know what it was about and doesn't want to get rid of Wallace.
Richmond not impressed. March has told Joseph to butt out of Richmond affairs. Browny just said the same thing to Joseph on TFS. Club needs stability unlike the past where everything was turned on its head sacking coaches and boards.
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What the hell was that all about :banghead
UN FREAKEN BELIEVABLE - F OFF :help
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WTF?? Surely Jackstar didnt even see that coming. :-\
Unless he works for the Kangaroos and knew Joseph was all about it the whole time??
And is behind it?
WTF is going on? Im so confused! :o
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WTF?? Surely Jackstar didnt even see that coming. :-\
How could you doubt it - he's known everything else so far :banghead
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WTF?? Surely Jackstar didnt even see that coming. :-\
How could you doubt it - he's known everything else so far :banghead
True that.
This club is trying to get back on its feet and all you'll do is rip it apart again Jackstar. :banghead
Hang on for the ride Wallace. It's going to get very rocky. :-[
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Ron Joseph (a director of North Melbourne) has approached names about paying out Wallace and a chance to get Sheeds.
Wants a meeting with David Mandie and Clinton Casey. Casey aware of meeting but didn't know what it was about and doesn't want to get rid of Wallace.
Richmond not impressed. March has told Joseph to butt out of Richmond affairs. Browny just said the same thing to Joseph on TFS. Club needs stability unlike the past where everything was turned on its head sacking coaches and boards.
LOL - I have to say I consider this to be pretty farcical.
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What are the motives behind these people?
I know Jackstar's but what about the others that they would have a year-long anti-Wallace campaign?
They're not dumb, so they would know what he's trying to do with the club - rebuild.
So they know this year will be our worst year due to the ramifications of doing what he's done and they bring the knives out.
And Ron Joseph - North Melbourne??? - WTF :banghead
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What are the motives behind these people?
I know Jackstar's but what about the others that they would have a year-long anti-Wallace campaign?
They're not dumb, so they would know what he's trying to do with the club - rebuild.
So they know this year will be our worst year due to the ramifications of doing what he's done and they bring the knives out.
And Ron Joseph - North Melbourne??? - WTF :banghead
Who does Joseph manage out of Pagan, Sheedy, Daniher and Connelly. ::)
He's trying to shut someone out to get some in but who is it??
stuff OFF! :banghead :banghead :chuck
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Are Ron Joseph and Miller mates?
If not, I can see a reason why he'd want Sheeds back at RFC.
If they are, why would he be lobbying for Sheedy?
Mystifying!
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Disappointing , but what can they do??
Its not like they have any power to make decisions on anything to do with the club...
Let them carry on with their silly crap and ignore them and get on with turning the club around..
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All the more reason why Wallace should see out the 5 years.
Let these people know once and for all that they are insignificant and the process' within the club will decide where the direction is at.
I still don't get it - May as well enjoy ralph TV for a while :cheers
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on other sites they said Joseph manages Pagan - the joseph idea could be get Sheedy to Richmond and Pagan may have a chance of coaching Melbourne.
this could all be a ploy however to really wratchet up the pressure on Plough....
who knows?
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on other sites they said Joseph manages Pagan - the joseph idea could be get Sheedy to Richmond and Pagan may have a chance of coaching Melbourne.
Conflict of interest. :banghead
Jimmy Brayshaw didnt look too pleased. :rollin
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Jimmy Brayshaw didnt look too pleased. :rollin
You could see the blood draining from his face lol :rollin
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It is farcical Ramps but confirmed by those asked about it by the TFS.
Running to another Club to do their dirty work. What scum >:( :banghead.
The motive Moi is they think and have always thought that our Club is their personal plaything which jumps when they say how high. The Club has in past always caved into their shortsighted demands and quick fixes. Not anymore :thumbsup. Go away and screw up another club for 25 years you morons :banghead.
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All the more reason why Wallace should see out the 5 years.
Let these people know once and for all that they are insignificant and the process' within the club will decide where the direction is at.
I still don't get it - May as well enjoy ralph TV for a while :cheers
I dont think people like David Mandie could be said to be insignificant...without people like him we'd probably would have gone interstate 15 years ago.
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Jimmy Brayshaw didnt look too pleased. :rollin
You could see the blood draining from his face lol :rollin
North's next board meeting should be interesting :lol
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I dont think people like David Mandie could be said to be insignificant...without people like him we'd probably would have gone interstate 15 years ago.
Spot on Ramps, I hardly see him wanting to do anything that would harm the club.
Others are a different matter though :banghead
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I dont think people like David Mandie could be said to be insignificant...without people like him we'd probably would have gone interstate 15 years ago.
Spot on Ramps, I hardly see him wanting to do anything that would harm the club.
Others are a different matter though :banghead
Thats why my first post in here on this said that this is farcical. Its a pretty dismal attempt at trying to knife a coach, we cant even do that properly these days.
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I dont think people like David Mandie could be said to be insignificant...without people like him we'd probably would have gone interstate 15 years ago.
Hmmm and Casey for that matter ???
I still don't get it - May as well enjoy ralph TV for a while :cheers
Anyone see the beer / souvlaki milkshake - :rollin
Babe 7 for me :thumbsup
Some Pauline chick up next - Guys tune in :thumbsup
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I dont think people like David Mandie could be said to be insignificant...without people like him we'd probably would have gone interstate 15 years ago.
Spot on Ramps, I hardly see him wanting to do anything that would harm the club.
Others are a different matter though :banghead
Someone must have leaked what was going on back to the Club and to Hutchy and the footy show.
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Expect your newspapers to arrive about 8am tomorrow
HS and Age doing backflips on changing that front page lol
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I still don't get it - May as well enjoy ralph TV for a while :cheers
Anyone see the beer / souvlaki milkshake - :rollin
Babe 7 for me :thumbsup
Some Pauline chick up next - Guys tune in :thumbsup
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We get NightLine instead. ::)
No mention of the debacle on the news. Proof it's pre-taped. 8)
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This is all very very farcical and very very disgusting. The way I see it is Joseph wants to move Sheedy into RFC so that will take Sheeds out of the equation to the Melb job so that his mate Pagan can get the Melb job. Sheeds and Miller obviously do not see eye to eye and as a result Pagan is once again reunited with Miller at Melbourne as Pagan is managed by Joseph.
I expect Gary March to be on the phone very early to Ron Joseph with a piece of his mind. B/S like this holding the club back. Don't know why David Mandie is also involved perhaps a deal with the shares involved with the Roos from a long way back and a few favours being called upon now. Who knows there is more to this than meets the eye. Confusing.
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The penny is starting to drop a bit.
Didn't Jackstar say we might be getting Melbourne's recruiting guy - Cameron or whatever.
Therefore....
Get Sheeds to Richmond
Get Joseph's man Pagan to Melbourne
Pagan's old mate Miller to join him and
the Melbourne guy to Richmond
:banghead
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Weren't Melbourne at one stage considering Laidley who is still out of contract? Crazy I know but Joseph hoping Sheeds goes to Richmond allowing Laidley to head to Melbourne as a cheaper coaching option, leaving Pagan to return to North. Who knows!
All I care about is Joseph butts his nose out of Richmond and any RFC member seriously considering this plot as a option should be named and shamed.
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Sheedy to take an assistan role in 08 @ the RFC.
Round 11,Wallace walks after being unofficially replaced-We dont pay him out- the board turns on him-his life becomes painful.
Sheedy becomes caretaker for remainder of 08 @ minimum wage until end of season when
position is reviewed and ultimately given the senior coaching job.
This would be the most cost effective way to condut such a ludicrous mutiny
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Read on BF that Lids is managed by Ron Joseph.
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Ron Joseph, Jackstar?
What kind of supporter are you and your "Executive" mates.
Leave our club alone :banghead
Unbelieveable
:banghead :banghead
I am a fantastic supporter , more than anyone here would know.
I have nothing to do with the executive, am not that stupid to be involved with throwing""money out the window"" for no return. ::)
Wouldnt think Wallace or March would be at punt road in 2008.
As i have said before on numerous occassions, Wallace isnt the man for the job.
Terry. start cleaning your desk out and make sure you shut the door on the way out, and take your mates with you. you have wasted 3 years of the RFC and 3 years of supporters time and money. You have delivered 3 years of spin doctoring and visions with little or no substance.
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can everyone feel the temperature rising!!
something big is about to happen
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The temperature is certainly rising X.
Wallace is on the final countdown in his coaching career.
Why do people continue to bag and insult Jackstar?
He is only telling us what he hears, he is not involved in any of these happenings so to say that he is tearing the heart out of the club is a joke.
I am sure that a lot of people are not happy with what he is telling us, but as others have said most of it is coming true.
Stay tuned. :whistle :whistle
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can everyone feel the temperature rising!!
something big is about to happen
With Sheedy talking to other clubs now, they'd want to make sure he doesn't get away.
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Very interesting. But I was one thaty thought that Terry would be a good thing for us and I will stick to my words. Yes it might be a bumby road ahead but we have to let the ropes go and let Terry have the reins of the club. We will improve and then we all will be saying he's done a good job. Look at it most of the boys are exactlly that boys and they are playing against men. Give Terry the real chance he deserves.
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can everyone feel the temperature rising!!
something big is about to happen
With Sheedy talking to other clubs now, they'd want to make sure he doesn't get away.
Let's hope we don't lose Terry and Sheeds out of this farce. Terry's walked away before - if he's not wanted, he may do again.
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No doubt the fact we are playing the Cats this week has a lot to do with it.
I reckon its Terry's Waterloo this week - big loss against the Cats and with the goings on of the last couple of weeks he'll be a very lonely man.
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There is a real issue here.
Would think that K. Sheedy would be the only person who can get the club in the right direction, plenty have tried in the past but failed.
Its no secret that Kevin is in very high demand as he offers alot more than just what happens on match day, You would find wherever he goes he will have assistants of the calipar of a Gary Ayres etc. assistants who have coached at senior level in the own right.
lets just hope that people can see the vision he offers and we dont lose him to another club through ego,s and people with poor vision and management decisions, as the RFC have been appalling at making poor decisions over the past 25 years.
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can everyone feel the temperature rising!!
something big is about to happen
With Sheedy talking to other clubs now, they'd want to make sure he doesn't get away.
Let's hope we don't lose Terry and Sheeds out of this farce. Terry's walked away before - if he's not wanted, he may do again.
Moi, I actually agree with you.
I reckon he will walk.
I think the players have made there decision on things.
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Ron Joseph, Jackstar?
What kind of supporter are you and your "Executive" mates.
Leave our club alone :banghead
Unbelieveable
:banghead :banghead
I am a fantastic supporter , more than anyone here would know.
I have nothing to do with the executive, am not that stupid to be involved with throwing""money out the window"" for no return. ::)
Wouldnt think Wallace or March would be at punt road in 2008.
As i have said before on numerous occassions, Wallace isnt the man for the job.
Terry. start cleaning your desk out and make sure you shut the door on the way out, and take your mates with you. you have wasted 3 years of the RFC and 3 years of supporters time and money. You have delivered 3 years of spin doctoring and visions with little or no substance.
yea
a complete waste of money,
without which, the club would be screwed. YOu are a real team player jack
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There is a real issue here.
Would think that K. Sheedy would be the only person who can get the club in the right direction, plenty have tried in the past but failed.
Its no secret that Kevin is in very high demand as he offers alot more than just what happens on match day, You would find wherever he goes he will have assistants of the calipar of a Gary Ayres etc. assistants who have coached at senior level in the own right.
lets just hope that people can see the vision he offers and we dont lose him to another club through ego,s and people with poor vision and management decisions, as the RFC have been appalling at making poor decisions over the past 25 years.
the right direction ::)
like the essendon direction :o
where their best 10 players are going to retire in the next 2 years and there is nothing coming through.
Give me a break, even you dont belive the crap you are spruiking
Sheedy is finished, has been for 5 years
Good riddance you old fart.
By the end of next year Wallet will be in talks for an extension of his contract :shh
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we have reached the stage where one or both or terry wallace or greg miller has to leave the club. Caroline Wilson turned up the blowtorch this morning in The Age. The media are coming after us now.
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There is a real issue here.
Would think that K. Sheedy would be the only person who can get the club in the right direction, plenty have tried in the past but failed.
Its no secret that Kevin is in very high demand as he offers alot more than just what happens on match day, You would find wherever he goes he will have assistants of the calipar of a Gary Ayres etc. assistants who have coached at senior level in the own right.
lets just hope that people can see the vision he offers and we dont lose him to another club through ego,s and people with poor vision and management decisions, as the RFC have been appalling at making poor decisions over the past 25 years.
the right direction ::)
like the essendon direction :o
where their best 10 players are going to retire in the next 2 years and there is nothing coming through.
Give me a break, even you dont belive the crap you are spruiking
Sheedy is finished, has been for 5 years
Good riddance you old fart.
By the end of next year Wallet will be in talks for an extension of his contract :shh
Mate, Wallace cant coach, havent you worked that out yet ::)
Even Spuds got a better record you might find.
This years effort is the worst effort by any team for 15 years.
1 win. Even Carlton have won a few more than us.
Your are dreaming if you think he is going to get an extension.
HE WONT!
And you might find that a big loss this weekend you will hear the ""fat lady sing""
Terry will be praying for rain and heaps of it down at Geelong so he can get yet another HONOURABLE loss ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) and save his backside for 1 further week..
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Let's sack the coach, why on earth would we want to change the way we do things when they have been so successful for us for the last 25 years? Sticking with a coach who has a plan would be a stupid move for our club. (please please please don't mention Frawley and how we stuck with him for 5 years. Completely different situation, a coach with no plan, no consistent support from board level right through to the football department unlike now).
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There is a real issue here.
Would think that K. Sheedy would be the only person who can get the club in the right direction, plenty have tried in the past but failed.
Its no secret that Kevin is in very high demand as he offers alot more than just what happens on match day, You would find wherever he goes he will have assistants of the calipar of a Gary Ayres etc. assistants who have coached at senior level in the own right.
lets just hope that people can see the vision he offers and we dont lose him to another club through ego,s and people with poor vision and management decisions, as the RFC have been appalling at making poor decisions over the past 25 years.
I don't know about that Jackstar by any stretch Richmond has been pretty good at making appalling decisions ::)
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can everyone feel the temperature rising!!
something big is about to happen
With Sheedy talking to other clubs now, they'd want to make sure he doesn't get away.
Let's hope we don't lose Terry and Sheeds out of this farce. Terry's walked away before - if he's not wanted, he may do again.
This is the very real danger.
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So ok, let's say Wallace accepts money and leaves.
Are the "money men" 100% certain Sheedy will replace him?
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Really amazed there has been no discussion in the media about this today.
How many board directors try and manipulate the goings on of another club?
Who is the media protecting?
I know when I heard this on the tellie last night, I was genuinely shocked and thought WTF is going on.
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So ok, let's say Wallace accepts money and leaves.
Are the "money men" 100% certain Sheedy will replace him?
How about the "money men" put the money into player recruitment and development
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Really amazed there has been no discussion in the media about this today.
How many board directors try and manipulate the goings on of another club?
Who is the media protecting?
I know when I heard this on the tellie last night, I was genuinely shocked and thought WTF is going on.
This has been going on for a while, because the media dont report it means nothing, although the media are protective of Wallace.
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If these people have that much money to throw around, how about putting it to use for extra recruiting staff, more gym equipment, most staff etc? Nope, let's blow it on repeating the same mistakes...
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If these people have that much money to throw around, how about putting it to use for extra recruiting staff, more gym equipment, most staff etc? Nope, let's blow it on repeating the same mistakes...
Good post, Jezza
Precisely :banghead
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Now I remeber why I don't watch that tripe called The Footy Show.
Ron Joseph :help
This is another great example of why we are where we are. Faceless cowards who think the RFC is theirs so they do what they want with no consideration of the Club - OUR CLUB.
Pizz off you wankers!!!!!!! Fancy calling yourselves Richmond people
You make me want to do this :chuck :chuck :chuck on your boots and your designer suits
Wouldnt think Wallace or March would be at punt road in 2008.
As i have said before on numerous occassions, Wallace isnt the man for the job.
Terry. start cleaning your desk out and make sure you shut the door on the way out, and take your mates with you. you have wasted 3 years of the RFC and 3 years of supporters time and money. You have delivered 3 years of spin doctoring and visions with little or no substance.
Jack you can have your view on Wallace but to now say March has to go as well is pathetic.
FACT: Gary March has been an outstanding President of this Football Club - no ifs, buts or maybes - FACT
PLease don't bring up his business woes from a few years back because if you did your research you'd now that he was turned tha around as well - FACT
Gary is a Richmond person who has always put the Club first - pity some of these faceless twirps cannot say the same
:banghead
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How about the "money men" put the money into player recruitment and development
Sorry Gracie, didn't see you'd already said this.
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Jack you can have your view on Wallace but to now say March has to go as well is pathetic.
FACT: Gary March has been an outstanding President of this Football Club - no ifs, buts or maybes - FACT
PLease don't bring up his business woes from a few years back because if you did your research you'd now that he was turned tha around as well - FACT
Gary is a Richmond person who has always put the Club first - pity some of these faceless twirps cannot say the same
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I dont actually want Gary to leave , although he is a Wallace man and I think he might have backed himself into a corner ,thats all.
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How about the "money men" put the money into player recruitment and development
Sorry Gracie, didn't see you'd already said this.
Well it is a very good point and deserves to be repeated.
And you are also right on asking "why do we keep making the same errors"
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I dont actually want Gary to leave , although he is a Wallace man and I think he might have backed himself into a corner ,thats all.
There are quite a few Wallace men, as you say - should we all leave?
:rollin
The nerve of you people :banghead
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Sheedy to take an assistan role in 08 @ the RFC.
Round 11,Wallace walks after being unofficially replaced-We dont pay him out- the board turns on him-his life becomes painful.
Sheedy becomes caretaker for remainder of 08 @ minimum wage until end of season when
position is reviewed and ultimately given the senior coaching job.
This would be the most cost effective way to condut such a ludicrous mutiny
ahem..
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I dont actually want Gary to leave , although he is a Wallace man and I think he might have backed himself into a corner ,thats all.
There are quite a few Wallace men, as you say - should we all leave?
:rollin
The nerve of you people :banghead
The nerve of who ?
Can tell you something, if I performed in my employment to the standards that have been set this year, I wouldnt expect to be employed much longer, contract or no contract ::)
1 win in 17 is a disgrace to say the least.
Might ad that Geelong is shortest price team in history this week.
And furthermore, some posters here just dont realise what a laughing stock the RFC is to other people in the AFL..
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I am the first to admit i am a bit slow at times so i will ask , are the people
trying to do this officially connected to the club(ie on the board) or are we just talking about people
with no role at the club?
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How about the "money men" put the money into player recruitment and development
Sensational point Gracie. :thumbsup
if these "money men" genuinely had the best interests of the RFC at heart then they would be lining up to spend the money where it is desperately needed. but no, it has to be a power play and another coach has to get it in the neck. disgusting.
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Name one AFL coach who would've been able to take this list to September glory. You can't demand a coach to blood more kids and then bay for his blood when he does. We were always going to bottom out for a couple of years during the transition - in fact, this has very possibly been delayed a couple of years BECAUSE Wallace is a decent coach.
I think TW has handled his job pretty astutely given the resources at his disposal. As Jezza and Gracie pointed out - what waste of money!!!
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How about the "money men" put the money into player recruitment and development
If these people have that much money to throw around, how about putting it to use for extra recruiting staff, more gym equipment, most staff etc? Nope, let's blow it on repeating the same mistakes...
That would be too sensible and logical for them to comprehend. It wouldn't give them a sense of power over Club decisions either ::).
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How about the "money men" put the money into player recruitment and development
If these people have that much money to throw around, how about putting it to use for extra recruiting staff, more gym equipment, most staff etc? Nope, let's blow it on repeating the same mistakes...
That would be too sensible and logical for them to comprehend. It wouldn't give them a sense of power over Club decisions either ::).
Hit the nail on the head - they want to be powerful, then dine out on it for the next year - selfish!
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The nerve of who ?
Can tell you something, if I performed in my employment to the standards that have been set this year, I wouldnt expect to be employed much longer, contract or no contract ::)
1 win in 17 is a disgrace to say the least.
Might ad that Geelong is shortest price team in history this week.
And furthermore, some posters here just dont realise what a laughing stock the RFC is to other people in the AFL..
3 and a half wins with a superior list is just as bad..Yet you want the guy who produced that , go figure..
Your right in that when you win 1 and a half games you probably shouldn't expect to be employed much longer..But thats not your call or the call of these faceless people
outside the club..Definately not the call of dogs like Ron Joseph either...
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How about the "money men" put the money into player recruitment and development
If these people have that much money to throw around, how about putting it to use for extra recruiting staff, more gym equipment, most staff etc? Nope, let's blow it on repeating the same mistakes...
That would be too sensible and logical for them to comprehend. It wouldn't give them a sense of power over Club decisions either ::).
Hit the nail on the head - they want to be powerful, then dine out on it for the next year - selfish!
Selfish is the word GB. Pandering to their ego.
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Name one AFL coach who would've been able to take this list to September glory. You can't demand a coach to blood more kids and then bay for his blood when he does. We were always going to bottom out for a couple of years during the transition - in fact, this has very possibly been delayed a couple of years BECAUSE Wallace is a decent coach.
I think TW has handled his job pretty astutely given the resources at his disposal. As Jezza and Gracie pointed out - what waste of money!!!
no one is saying any coach would have taken this list to september glory
but
these are the questions i am asking and this proves terry cannot coach
1/ why is it after 3 years at the helm, the rfc skill level is no better than ever b4, but in actual fact the skill level (what there was) is declining?
2/ why is it when players that have been out for a yr or more, they have not put on any bulk and size during their rehab and why is iit after 2/3 yrs, players are still stick thin ?
3/ why dosnt the rfc have any real leadership, on or off the field?
4/ why do players that continually turn the ball over, repeatedly get selected to play?
5/ you said that young players would get the nod over senior players if they show equal or better form? u r a liar!!!
6/ why dont the players play with any passion and pride?
7/ why are our players so mentally and physically fragile?
8/ why after 18 rounds of football, richo still does not know how to use his body and cant understand that hands in the back is cheating? who is not teaching him to correct this childish problem, and other problems he has?
9/ why cant the team ,still, get the ball out of defensive 50 with any real set plan or stucture?
10/ why are we so pathetic at kicking out after a point?
11/ why are players continually played out of position?
12/ why do u as a coach , mainly follow another teams lead and copy them, eg hawks try a small (brown) in bigger fwds so u try the same with raines and it totall f ups. why cannot you coach with ur own brain and stop playing copy cat???
13/ why do u keep making bs statements and a week later do exactly the opposiste that u bs and spin on tanking it with terry on tuesdays.
the questions can go on
terry cannot coach full stop
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I guess it all comes down to this....Are these "money men" about making the RFC a successful club on field and off field or are they just after the car space?? I'm betting the latter. ::) Nobody is going to pour stacks of cash into recruitment training and facilites. That's not business, thats Philanthropy.
Someone should give Warren Buffett a call. After all he has 44 billion he's looking to give away for needy causes.
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And furthermore, some posters here just dont realise what a laughing stock the RFC is to other people in the AFL..
We are a laughing stock because we continue to make the same dumb decisions over and over. Everyone else is crying with laughter as some idiots wet themselves over what they think Sheedy can bring to the club.
Couldn't care less if they are laughing at us. Stick to our plan and reassess at the end of 2009 instead of blind panic and knee jerk reactions
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some posters here just dont realise what a laughing stock the RFC is to other people in the AFL..
The thing that Richmond is a laughing stock for is continually sacking coaches.
Seems some people just want the laughs to keep coming non-stop.
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And furthermore, some posters here just dont realise what a laughing stock the RFC is to other people in the AFL..
We are a laughing stock because we continue to make the same dumb decisions over and over. Everyone else is crying with laughter as some idiots wet themselves over what they think Sheedy can bring to the club.
Couldn't care less if they are laughing at us. Stick to our plan and reassess at the end of 2009 instead of blind panic and knee jerk reactions
Well said Gracie :clapping
We are under the media gun because no one else is left now to pick apart except for perhaps Neil Craig who'll probably cop it if the Crows miss the finals (but that'll be only in Adelaide so the Melbourne journos won't care). The media only care about scoring scalps to sells papers and generate ratings. Four clubs have caved under media pressure in the past month and bet your bottom dollar they expect us to do the same based solely on our past history to do so. Time this club stuck to its guns and long term planning instead of pandering to the whims and quick-fixes of those who deep down couldn't give a stuff about what's best for the RFC.
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I agree that it's farcical.the way these "outsiders" are going about things.
Unfortunately it's no longer about the Dam club - It's all about money.
Welcome to the RFC's last Hurrah!
Pop will eat itself - We r Pop.
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some posters here just dont realise what a laughing stock the RFC is to other people in the AFL..
The thing that Richmond is a laughing stock for is continually sacking coaches.
Seems some people just want the laughs to keep coming non-stop.
what if , keeping wallace turns out to be a dumb decision as it was when we kept dudly spudly?
there are always 2 sides to a coin
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Sheeds would be on double the money Wallace was on and we'd be dumb enough to pay him.
Are the Executive themselves dipping into their pockets or are they waiting for a benefactor who may or may not honour any promises?
Plus the Wallace payout
Plus the wonderful coaching panel Sheeds will bring ::) they have to be paid
Does the ongoing development of our antiquated facilities and recruiting department go on hold just to pay one man with a massive ego, who if he got a better offer would be off quicker than Paris' knickers! lol
In other words, show me the money - where's it going to come from, where is it going to be allocated to, and what are the long term plans of Sheedy. He could be in the dementia ward in 5 years time FFS!
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dont think we need sheedy, we just need someone who can get the teanm playing with pride ansd passion
chris bond is teh one, and maybe bluey mckenna, but i like an ex tiger to be the top man.
wallace , if teh team really respects him and plays 4 him, and if he sweeops the hard changes at yrs end, fine stay on.
but if wallace cannot make teh hard decisions, and if teh players have lost him, no point in keeping him on
we need a coach that the team is willing to die 4, if thats terry fine, if its not , move on
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Sheeds would be on double the money Wallace was on and we'd be dumb enough to pay him.
Are the Executive themselves dipping into their pockets or are they waiting for a benefactor who may or may not honour any promises?
Plus the Wallace payout
Plus the wonderful coaching panel Sheeds will bring ::) they have to be paid
Does the ongoing development of our antiquated facilities and recruiting department go on hold just to pay one man with a massive ego, who if he got a better offer would be off quicker than Paris' knickers! lol
In other words, show me the money - where's it going to come from, where is it going to be allocated to, and what are the long term plans of Sheedy. He could be in the dementia ward in 5 years time FFS!
Fact, Sheeds WONT be on double the money.
Fact Sheeds will generate at least 10,000 new members meaning an extra $1,000,000 inn the coffers ( survey has already been completed on this )
Basically Sheeds will pay for himself.
As for paying the assistants, our STUPID club pays assistants with NO experience at the moment , now thats a GREAT move by RFC and Terry Wallet, At least Sheeds will bring ex senior coaches who know the ropes, not people who are pretenders like we have at present.
Moi, get your mind around it, Sheeds will come back and coach at Punt Road :thumbsup.
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Fact Sheeds will generate at least 10,000 new members meaning an extra $1,000,000 inn the coffers ( survey has already been completed on this )
So we're going to end up with more members than either Collingwood and Essendon (under Sheeds for 27 years). Seriously how can anyone believe this is mindboggling.
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some posters here just dont realise what a laughing stock the RFC is to other people in the AFL..
The thing that Richmond is a laughing stock for is continually sacking coaches.
Seems some people just want the laughs to keep coming non-stop.
what if , keeping wallace turns out to be a dumb decision as it was when we kept dudly spudly?
there are always 2 sides to a coin
We would have shown that the reputation of sacking the coach is gone even if Wallace is told bye-bye in his final year.
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Actually sick of discussing this topic,
MT, are we going to honor Terrys contract to prove a point are we ?
This must be comedy at its best.
MT, will tell you this for the last time, he cant coach and will never win a flag..
Get flogged tomorrow and he might have coached his last game, we can only hope
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Actually sick of discussing this topic,
Well f*** off then.
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Actually sick of discussing this topic,
MT, are we going to honor Terrys contract to prove a point are we ?
This must be comedy at its best.
MT, will tell you this for the last time, he cant coach and will never win a flag..
Get flogged tomorrow and he might have coached his last game, we can only hope
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but you like to throw fuel on the fire.
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Actually sick of discussing this topic,
Well f*** off then.
:clapping
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Fact, Sheeds WONT be on double the money.
Don't care if he is on double the money half the money - he is not the answers to our prayers. If people honestly he is and believe he will turn it around in 12 months then people are kidding themselves.
Fact Sheeds will generate at least 10,000 new members meaning an extra $1,000,000 inn the coffers ( survey has already been completed on this )
Sorry Jack but this is not a FACT - as this can not be guaranteed - unless you, Sheeds and the faceless cowards are going to buy enough memberships to cover this off - there is no guarantee that this will happen.
As for paying the assistants, our STUPID club pays assistants with NO experience at the moment , now thats a GREAT move by RFC and Terry Wallet, At least Sheeds will bring ex senior coaches who know the ropes, not people who are pretenders like we have at present.
That's funny too Jack because Sheeds was carrying on in the media yesterday about how he likes to bring young coaches through the system and give them the opportunity. Now if the Wallace does it he and the CLub is stupid but if Sheeds does it he is a genius - that is double standards
Moi, get your mind around it, Sheeds will come back and coach at Punt Road :thumbsup.
Not in 2008 he wont - sorry I forgot Wallace is going to walk ::)
Maybe it's like the Beatles song he'll be back
"When he is 64" :rollin
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Next year I wanna buy one of those memberships that mean my opinion is worth more than a regular member. How much do they cost? :gotigers
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I was pretty ticked off this afternoon when I had a spare 15 minutes to read this. And I am still ticked off angry and whole range of other things
I have been following this Club all my life. Been absolutely blessed to have seen 3 premiership (there's been 5 in my life time but I can only remember the last 3).
I've been buying memberships since I was old enough to pay for them.
Never ever have I once put conditions on being a member of this Club.
Not once have I tried to hijack it, threatened not to become a member if I didn't like the way things were going or schemed and plotted to get things to be done my way.
Have I always been happy with the things that have gone on - absolutely not.
But as I said I don't put conditions on me being a member of this football Club - simply because I love it - have for a very long time now.
However, I am sick to death of these ego driven faceless cowards who do put conditions on their commitment to the this Club, who constantly scheme and plot to undermine this Club and think that it is their right to do so. And then have the check to refer to themselves as "Richmond People"
They are nothing more than selfish scum.
Why?
Because they believe they have a right to do these things on behalf of me. They don't :banghead The rights that they have regarding this football club are exactly the same as mine and every other member of this Club. Have they asked me or any other member if this is what we the members want? Nope, na, nada NO!
Why?
Because it doesn't serve their own purposes. I mean heaven forbid if they actually consider what the members actually wanted. They dont own this Club but they act like they do. They say they care about it. But geesh they have a strange way of showing it. Their scheming and plotting (actually its more like cloaks, daggers and whispers) only show to me, at least, that the only thing they care about is their oversized egos.
As I said earlier - to the faceless cowards P-ZZ OFF
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I was pretty ticked off this afternoon when I had a spare 15 minutes to read this. And I am still ticked off angry and whole range of other things
I have been following this Club all my life. Been absolutely blessed to have seen 3 premiership (there's been 5 in my life time but I can only remember the last 3).
I've been buying memberships since I was old enough to pay for them.
Never ever have I once put conditions on being a member of this Club.
Not once have I tried to hijack it, threatened not to become a member if I didn't like the way things were going or schemed and plotted to get things to be done my way.
Have I always been happy with the things that have gone on - absolutely not.
But as I said I don't put conditions on me being a member of this football Club - simply because I love it - have for a very long time now.
However, I am sick to death of these ego driven faceless cowards who do put conditions on their commitment to the this Club, who constantly scheme and plot to undermine this Club and think that it is their right to do so. And then have the check to refer to themselves as "Richmond People"
They are nothing more than selfish scum.
Why?
Because they believe they have a right to do these things on behalf of me. They don't :banghead The rights that they have regarding this football club are exactly the same as mine and every other member of this Club. Have they asked me or any other member if this is what we the members want? Nope, na, nada NO!
Why?
Because it doesn't serve their own purposes. I mean heaven forbid if they actually consider what the members actually wanted.
As I said earlier to the faceless cowards P-ZZ OFF
I wholeheartedly agree WP!
As I left for work this morning, I quickly jumped on to see this thread had reached four pages. Among the posts was one by Bull:
Why do people continue to bag and insult Jackstar?
He is only telling us what he hears, he is not involved in any of these happenings so to say that he is tearing the heart out of the club is a joke.
I am sure that a lot of people are not happy with what he is telling us, but as others have said most of it is coming true.
This is my response: Because for the past six months, barely a day has passed where Jack has not come here to sink the boots into Wallace. If I had a dollar for every time the "::)" was used, I'd have enough money to buy a membership in the exclusive "My Sheite Doesn't Stink" club the RFC has clearly set up for those who think their opinions mean more than mine. I remember getting the PM telling me of Jack's termination from the RFC sometime late last year. Since then, reading his posts have become unbearable. Whether he is directly involved, or as you say - "Saying what he hears" - is irrelevant. The FACT that he cannot look past his blind obsession and chooses to do nothing but fuel fires and innuendo means he has blood on his hands regardless.
Meanwhile, as has been pointed out quite eloquently by several already in this post, we have so-called "Richmond people" with "Richmond at heart" doing what is "good for Richmond". The only people they forget to consider in all this is "Richmond".
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Mate, i have nothing to do with the RFC.
They seem to be doing a good job at self exploding again without me being involved. ::)
And further, I am nothing to do with any letters that somehow MOI started a topic and very convienently added me to the heading.
As for Wallace. I am sick to death of watching crap footy, non-contested possesions, backward possesions, if you like footy played that way thats fine, thus we will only win one game for the year which is pathetic.
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By the way, I wouldnt think that David Mandie or Clinton Casey are faceless people, would you?
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And further, I am nothing to do with any letters that somehow MOI started a topic and very convienently added me to the heading.
Jack, if I had have known someone else in the "Execuwank" I would have put their name in the heading.
You said earlier in the year your company or you were in it, so you were the obvious choice.
Please accept my humblest apologies if I have portrayed you in some derogatory way.
My sincerest ;D apologies
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I stated earlier in the year that my company was involved at a corporate level. Nothing to do with Greg Millers Richmond executive.
Anyway, people think I am a d/head anyway, who cares , I dont. ::)
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I was pretty ticked off this afternoon when I had a spare 15 minutes to read this. And I am still ticked off angry and whole range of other things
I have been following this Club all my life. Been absolutely blessed to have seen 3 premiership (there's been 5 in my life time but I can only remember the last 3).
I've been buying memberships since I was old enough to pay for them.
Never ever have I once put conditions on being a member of this Club.
Not once have I tried to hijack it, threatened not to become a member if I didn't like the way things were going or schemed and plotted to get things to be done my way.
Have I always been happy with the things that have gone on - absolutely not.
But as I said I don't put conditions on me being a member of this football Club - simply because I love it - have for a very long time now.
However, I am sick to death of these ego driven faceless cowards who do put conditions on their commitment to the this Club, who constantly scheme and plot to undermine this Club and think that it is their right to do so. And then have the check to refer to themselves as "Richmond People"
They are nothing more than selfish scum.
Why?
Because they believe they have a right to do these things on behalf of me. They don't :banghead The rights that they have regarding this football club are exactly the same as mine and every other member of this Club. Have they asked me or any other member if this is what we the members want? Nope, na, nada NO!
Why?
Because it doesn't serve their own purposes. I mean heaven forbid if they actually consider what the members actually wanted. They dont own this Club but they act like they do. They say they care about it. But geesh they have a strange way of showing it. Their scheming and plotting (actually its more like cloaks, daggers and whispers) only show to me, at least, that the only thing they care about is their oversized egos.
As I said earlier - to the faceless cowards P-ZZ OFF
Bloody great stuff mate.
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WP
i have no power to control anything at the rfc
i as u, have been a member since i could afford to buy a ticket way back when i was a kid and i got a part time job as a 12 yo just to be able to buy a pissy squadron ticket , get to games and then go on and buy better memberships.
i will always be a member and support the club.
all i want is a coach that the team will die 4, if this is wallace, fine. if its not wallace then its time to move him on.
i would love to know what the players really think , if 95% of the group cant stand terry, no point in keeping him on.
the group did say they wanted terry to be more hands on and wanted him to be "around" more. is this happening? i am not sure?
clarkson has total support of his group and clarkson really supports his team.
i dont see this emotion at rfc from both sides(coach and players) and that is a big worry
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Funny you mention the playing group xXx.
They were surveyed at the start of the year and you are right.
They wanted more time on the track and less meetings.
They also wanted Wallace to be more hands on in regards to training sessions etc.
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Jacko and the Money Men sounds like a great name for a band lol. Anyway for mine I reckon the money men will win... they always do, whether its 6 weeks from now or 12 months from now, the money men will win.
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MT, will tell you this for the last time, he cant coach and will never win a flag..
The problem is that it won't be for the last time. It never is!
Anyway, why do you have to "tell" MT anything? You speak as if you are the knowledgeable parent telling an ignorant child about the world and how it works. My perception is that MT doesn't need to be told anything by you.
Fwoy - as usual, right on the money
WP - I share your anger and frustration.
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By the way, I wouldnt think that David Mandie or Clinton Casey are faceless people, would you?
I am not talking about Clinton Casey - who cancelled the meeting once he found out what R Joseph wanted.
And I certainly don't mean Mr Mandie - who goes about supporting the RFC in ways and means that most don't know about because he doesn't seek fanfare, adulation or excessive media coverage (aka not ego driven.
The faceless people I speak of are the ones who go behind closed doors, start email campaigns, stir up trouble and wont come out and say what they are up too or more importantly who they are.
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My 13 year old Junior squadron member is a better supporter of the RFC than some of these people. ::)
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my 12 year old cant stand watching Richmond anymore
he always says no l'm not watching them get flogged again
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my 12 year old cant stand watching Richmond anymore
he always says no l'm not watching them get flogged again
cant blame him
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The faceless people I speak of are the ones who go behind closed doors, start email campaigns, stir up trouble and wont come out and say what they are up too or more importantly who they are.
They haven't changed since the 80s. Use Chinese whispers making up lies about club officials to knife them ::).
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My 13 year old Junior squadron member is a better supporter of the RFC than some of these people. ::)
well i have a 9 yo 7 yo 3 yo and a 1.5 yo, all members since they were conceived! the younger 2 have no idea. but the older 2 cry after every game, im not using the excuse that they are all girls, they are just hurting cos we always lose!
i cant force them to come to the footy with me, and frankly i dont want them too, i dont want my kids watching a team of losers and turn them into losers ,
but i keep buying them memberships anyway. they havent been to a game since rnd 9, and i cant blame them
whats scary is now they are coming home from school sick of teh sh it they cop, and wanna change clubs, everyone wants to be a winner!
there will be many tiger kids out there that as soon as they grow up and think for themselves a bit will pi ss the rfc off and support a team that will bust their guts for their fans
if the tigers keep this standard up for 4 more yrs, they will be forced to merge or die
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if the tigers keep this standard up for 4 more yrs, they will be forced to merge or die
In 4 years time xXx we will be enjoying good times - not a dobut in my mind :thumbsup
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