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Title: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on August 31, 2004, 03:15:21 AM
First cab off the rank:

Rhyce Shaw to Tigerland  :o.

 
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Wallace said he would like to have Shaw at Punt Rd next year.

Wallace has declared Richmond's interest and Carlton is also believed to have looked at Shaw in trade talks.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,10624155%255E23211,00.html


No don't even think of it Terry! He's got speed but is a dud when it comes to disposal. Let the Pies keep him.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Rodgerramjet on August 31, 2004, 04:08:27 AM
It's all speculation at the moment MT, it's just Shaw and Wallace stirring the pot on their radio show and having a dig at the Pies ;D.

However If he did leave and we did pick him up I wouldn't mind. I like the boy ;D. Don't know what, probably his pace, anyway alot of you are probably thinking right now I've gone stark raving mad. :rollin
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on August 31, 2004, 04:27:46 AM
That's alright then  ;)

As for going mad. Hey we've barracked for the Tiges for the past 20 years. It goes with the territory  ;D.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: DirtyDogTiger on August 31, 2004, 08:06:22 AM
Depends what we have to give up.
I like Collingwood's first round pick and Shaw for gaspar
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Rodgerramjet on August 31, 2004, 08:31:17 AM
Having said what I said before I wouldn't give up to much for him, 4th or 5th rounder or even try to pick him up in the PSD.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 31, 2004, 08:51:57 AM
First cab off the rank:

Rhyce Shaw to Tigerland  :o.

No don't even think of it Terry! He's got speed but is a dud when it comes to disposal. Let the Pies keep him.

Should have been at Tigerland in 2004 - he would have fit right in :rollin
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on August 31, 2004, 09:45:22 AM
try this one. nothing to do with us but its a good one.
Connelly sacked, goes to Hawthorn.
Peter Sumich takes over Freo  :shh
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: om21 on August 31, 2004, 09:49:30 AM
Hate this time of the year......so much crap gets floated around...I cant wait to here some corkers coming out in the future.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 31, 2004, 10:45:06 AM
try this one. nothing to do with us but its a good one.
Connelly sacked, goes to Hawthorn.
Peter Sumich takes over Freo  :shh

Well well - could there be something in this?

It is reported on the Footygoss Website that Freo has called a press conference for this afternoon at 2.00pm. The President, CEO Schwab, Coach Connolly and captain Bell will face the media.

hmmmmmmmmmm........... ;D - they wouldn't would they  ::) :P :lol

http://www.footygoss.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=13765&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Struggletown on August 31, 2004, 04:18:59 PM
Rhys Shaw,yeah well why not?

Aren't we just crying out for another Jib with poor disposal??

Of course we are :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on August 31, 2004, 04:31:07 PM
Should have been at Tigerland in 2004 - he would have fit right in :rollin

 ;D

He'll forever be remembered  for last year's GF where he, while 20-30 metres clear in the Pies defensive 50, bounced, slipped over then fumbled the ball straight to Lynch who snapped a goal. Hold on that might have been Cole. They're as bad as each other. Anyway just wanted to relive another classic Collingwood GF moment  :rollin. 
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 07, 2004, 01:07:03 AM
 :rollin @ the rumour about us giving up our first 2 picks for Chris Tarrant  ::).
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 07, 2004, 06:34:15 AM
There is a bit more in that rumour MT.      Ottens involved as well
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: shawry on September 07, 2004, 08:49:16 AM
If we give up our first two picks I will feel the club is going nowhere.  I really hope this isnt true. ANd I hope we keep Ottens.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Bulluss on September 07, 2004, 08:50:25 AM
There is no way that Richmond would trade 2 of the first 4 picks for tarrant.

he isnt that good
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: froars on September 07, 2004, 08:54:47 AM
Surely just a straight swap for Tarrant is what Jackstar means - don't ya lol - pleeeeeaaaaaase!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Harry on September 07, 2004, 10:21:53 AM
If they decide to give up pick 1 and 4 for Tarrant then the club can go and get stuffed.....Wallace and all !!  >:(

Tarrant is crap and I wouldn't give a 3rd rounder for him.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Ox on September 07, 2004, 11:47:06 AM
Agree Harry Hedjob.

Tarrant is a young man with issues ala Aron James.

How can we even contemplate overlooking brilliant young talen such as Deledio ETC.

Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: 2JD on September 07, 2004, 11:53:57 AM
lol @ ox and the way you have with peoples names  :o
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 07, 2004, 02:43:26 PM
There is a bit more in that rumour MT.      Ottens involved as well

Surely we're not that stupid Jackstar  :help. A trade like that would top the Pitura deal we did in the 70's as the dumbest trade of all time.

Tarrant is overrated like most Collingwood players. He's useless without Rocca in the Pies forward line with him and vice versa. One of the main reasons the Pies tumbled this year down the ladder. Tarrant especially goes missing up against good defences.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Disco on September 07, 2004, 02:44:09 PM
Tarrant for Ottens.... surely Wallace hasnt gone mad being at Tigerland for only 2 weeks!

Give it another season and i'd believe your jackstar! :lol
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Puntroadroar on September 07, 2004, 02:50:17 PM
Here's a rumour straight off the press


Richmond to actually draft kids with their 1st and 4th pick !!  :o


OMG!!! they wouldnt would they?  :shh
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 07, 2004, 04:01:03 PM
This is the story.
Tarrant to Melbourne.
Ottens to Collingwood.
Jamar to Richmond. and draft picks ! and another player perhaps.
Note, I didnt say that Tarrant was coming to us, who wants him . The pies want ottens though, the plot thickens
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: blaisee on September 07, 2004, 04:16:59 PM
Jack,


Jamar is a hack I would prefer Jolly.

and as for draft picks we better be talking 1st rounds, and 2 of em thanks
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 07, 2004, 04:43:13 PM
This is the story.
Tarrant to Melbourne.
Ottens to Collingwood.
Jamar to Richmond. and draft picks ! and another player perhaps.
Note, I didnt say that Tarrant was coming to us, who wants him . The pies want ottens though, the plot thickens

Dees - a fringe player for Tarrant - would need to give up a 1st round pick at the very least otherwise they are massive winners.
Pies - Tarrant for Ottens - would need to give up more otherwise they are big winners. I presume the Pies will hope to get the Dees first pick #14 and then pass their first pick #7 onto us for Ottens.
Tigers - Ottens for a fringe player + pick(s) +? average player.

Unless Otto wants to leave, IMHO we get screwed in that deal. If Guy Richards was chucked in somewhere I might then listen.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 07, 2004, 04:45:59 PM
Unless Otto wants to leave, IMHO we get screwed in that deal. If Guy Richards was chucked in somewhere I might then listen.

What about the contract that is supposed to be on the table?

I am confused and I have a headache and trade week hasn't even started yet  :lol

Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 07, 2004, 04:54:24 PM
Contracts and trade rumours are mutually exclusive  ;). 
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 07, 2004, 05:10:30 PM
Contracts dont mean much these days. You can trade players that are contracted providing an agreement is done with the other club , otherwise we pay the ballance eg Ben Hollland, David Bourke, Nick Daffy etc
There will be draft picks involved.
Its funny that Ottens wants to stay at Richmond when a few weeks ago he wanted out . ::)
The pies are extremely interested.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Harry on September 07, 2004, 05:15:57 PM
Nah, don't like it.

Unless the pies throw in there first pick, the dees throw in Jolley and then we can talk.

Tigers get - Jolley, pick 7 (from Collingwood) and Melbournes 2nd round pick (pick 30 ?).
Tigers lose - Ottens

Demons get - Tarrant
Demons lose - Jolley, pick 30

Pies get - Ottens
Pies lose - Tarrant, pick 7
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: PuntRdRoar on September 07, 2004, 08:14:58 PM
I like this deal best...simplest and best but wont happen

Tarrant to West Coast (this rumour is gathering legs)
Ottens to Collingwood (this rumour has legs)
Judd to Richmond (sadly not gonna happen)

but it would be the best deal orchestrated in the history of trading...3 stars changing teams in one go.....It would be great for all the clubs...

West Coast get the full forward they need
Collingwood get there ruckman
Richmond get a superstar midfielder and someone who can change the course of a game!
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: PuntRdRoar on September 07, 2004, 08:15:48 PM
sorry double post guys :cheers
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: froars on September 07, 2004, 08:26:30 PM
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Tarrant to West Coast (this rumour is gathering legs)
Sounds plausible seeing they were desperate to get Richo last year!
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 07, 2004, 11:19:44 PM
I find these trade rumours involving the Pies hard to believe because in recent years at this time of year there always seems to be a big out-of-contract name linked to Collingwood. Gehrig, Stevens and our very own Nathan Brown to name a few.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Ox on September 07, 2004, 11:37:41 PM
Hey MoightyToiges,
What was the story with the Jophn Pitura deal?
I think i remember him from my footy cards.
Was it John or stuff
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 08, 2004, 12:02:35 AM
I was only a toddler at the time  ;) so someone else will be able to fill in the details but the rough story is back in 1974 we were courting John Pitura who had big wraps on him and at the time was playing for South Melbourne and wanted a clearance to Richmond (midseason I think). Anyway I think the VFL disallowed it or the Swans complained to the VFL. So he sat out the year and eventually got to Tigerland (in 75 I think) in a deal where we cleared Whale Roberts, Graham Teasdale (future brownlow medallist) and Francis Jackson to South Melbourne. Although he played a couple of seasons Pitura ended up a major flop given he never lived up to his reputation.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Ox on September 08, 2004, 12:14:25 AM
 :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead

Did i say MY footy cards,lol,I meant my cousins  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 09, 2004, 10:49:33 AM
Laughable rumour #2 - Rhyce Shaw for Chaffey.
 
Just on another note weren't the Pies interested in Tivs a few seasons back?
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Harry on September 09, 2004, 10:58:20 AM
Laughable rumour #2 - Rhyce Shaw for Chaffey.
 

Trading a dud for another dud ..........what's the point.

Trade Chaffey for a pick........any pick in the top 60.  Same with Kellaway, Gaspar, and Fiora.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 09, 2004, 11:06:54 AM
Laughable rumour #2 - Rhyce Shaw for Chaffey.
 

Trading a dud for another dud ..........what's the point.

Trade Chaffey for a pick........any pick in the top 60.  Same with Kellaway, Gaspar, and Fiora.

Agree Harry but after reading Pie forums you'd be surprised that they actually rate Chaffey. Whether the Pie officials do is of course another matter. If we're going to trade him we need to do it this trade period.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Harry on September 13, 2004, 09:51:11 AM
TW has had interviews with Ryce Shaw and has offered him a 3 year contract.  Shaw is interested in coming over.  Will need to make a deal with the pies now during the trade week.

Terry - Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!

(unless its a straight swap for chaffey  ;D )
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Ox on September 13, 2004, 01:36:34 PM
Laughable rumour #2 - Rhyce Shaw for Chaffey.
 

Trading a dud for another dud ..........what's the point.


It's called  "Dud Rotation"

That way it's easier to sack themat the end of the year. :lol
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 13, 2004, 01:39:39 PM
(unless its a straight swap for chaffey  ;D )


Make it Shaw and the Pies 2nd round draft pick for Chaffey and Fiora and ya have a deal  ;D
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 13, 2004, 03:07:06 PM
TW has had interviews with Ryce Shaw and has offered him a 3 year contract.  Shaw is interested in coming over.  Will need to make a deal with the pies now during the trade week.

Terry - Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!

(unless its a straight swap for chaffey  ;D )


Rhyce Shaw  :help .... 3 years  :gobdrop.

This is surely just another rumour from a Pie forum. Like O'Bree and Ben Johnson for Travis Johnstone. Or the Pies chasing hard after Goddard to force the Saints to pay him so much that they can't afford to keep Luke Ball so Ball goes into the PSD and askes for $500K a year so us, hawks and dogs pass on him on his way to the Pies who get him for nothing ::).
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: PuntRdRoar on September 13, 2004, 03:19:18 PM
theres plenty happening behind the scenes i reckon...still id like to see us get another 1st rounder between 7 and 10.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Harry on September 13, 2004, 03:52:54 PM
TW has had interviews with Ryce Shaw and has offered him a 3 year contract.  Shaw is interested in coming over.  Will need to make a deal with the pies now during the trade week.

Terry - Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!

(unless its a straight swap for chaffey  ;D )


Rhyce Shaw  :help .... 3 years  :gobdrop.

This is surely just another rumour from a Pie forum. Like O'Bree and Ben Johnson for Travis Johnstone. Or the Pies chasing hard after Goddard to force the Saints to pay him so much that they can't afford to keep Luke Ball so Ball goes into the PSD and askes for $500K a year so us, hawks and dogs pass on him on his way to the Pies who get him for nothing ::).

Received strong confirmation the other day that Wallace rates Shaw and has had a couple of meetings with him and that he has been offered a contract with us for 3 years.  He still has one more year at the pies and as such we need to make a trade deal.  Anyway alot of water to has to pass under the bridge and as I said we will be looking to make the pies an offer.  I just hope we don't give ANY draft picks away.  I can live with giving away a dud like Chaffey but no draft picks please.

You could say it came straight from the horses mouth  ;)

Rampaging - who would you look at recruiting at pick 7-10 ?

Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 13, 2004, 04:10:14 PM
Received strong confirmation the other day that Wallace rates Shaw and has had a couple of meetings with him and that he has been offered a contract with us for 3 years.  He still has one more year at the pies and as such we need to make a trade deal.  Anyway alot of water to has to pass under the bridge and as I said we will be looking to make the pies an offer.  I just hope we don't give ANY draft picks away.  I can live with giving away a dud like Chaffey but no draft picks please.

You could say it came straight from the horses mouth  ;)

Fair enough Harry in regards to the source and I'm not shooting the messenger but why would we offer him a 3 year deal  ??? Like yourself I hope we definitely don't waste a pick on Shaw.

Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Bulluss on September 13, 2004, 05:56:31 PM
Just reported on Ch10 news,

Rhyce Shaw has been told he will be traded if an appropriate trade can be done,

McGough has asked to be traded and

Lance Whitnall looks set to be traded to West Coast.

Also talked about Melbourne with a lot of players out of contract and Essendon and Collingwood interested in Bruce.

What are peoples thoughts on Broadbridge as a backman. He has looked ok in some of the games he has played and maybe someone we could look at as a "Cheap" option to play down back while our youngsters get bigger and better.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 13, 2004, 08:03:46 PM
Apart from Bruce the rest are fringe players. McGough is too slow. Likewise Whitnall. Shaw's disposal is ordinary.

The Dees have about 7 out of contract and their not rolling in dough either.

What are peoples thoughts on Broadbridge as a backman. He has looked ok in some of the games he has played and maybe someone we could look at as a "Cheap" option to play down back while our youngsters get bigger and better.

IMO Broadbridge is a third backman utility type behind Nicholson and Rivers. So not really a KP defender. He would be similar to Kellaway.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 14, 2004, 03:09:00 AM
Another crazy rumour doing the traps is Hawthorn enticing Luke Ball (his brother Matthew plays with the Hawks) into the PSD in a similar fashion to what happened to them last year with Rawlings. To convince us not to take Ball ahead of them with our first PSD pick, they will trade their draft pick #5 to us in exchange for anyone on our list we choose (a la a Veale). I wouldn't sat no  :thumbsup.     
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: LondonTiger on September 14, 2004, 03:59:08 AM
We should take the pick 5 deal, and take Ball anyway in the PSD.  That would make all Hawks vs Richmond matches Blockbusters for the next 50 years.

Imagine the ratings...

Balls dad played for the Tigers btw.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Harry on September 14, 2004, 09:40:36 AM
We should take the pick 5 deal, and take Ball anyway in the PSD.  That would make all Hawks vs Richmond matches Blockbusters for the next 50 years.

Imagine the ratings...

Balls dad played for the Tigers btw.

LMAO - How good would that be.  We get Ball for nothing, pick 5 for Hilton and completely screw the Hawks...........LMAOOOOOO.   Please let it happen.

But seriously, if the Hawks and Ball want to do it, I say bring it on.  Pick 5 for Hilton.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: PuntRdRoar on September 14, 2004, 10:30:21 AM
London Tiger has produced one of the funniest lines ive heard ina long time :cheers....I would take the deal as offered, but I would push for Hawthorns pick 2 instead of 5. That would allow us to take in my phantom draft

pick 1 (RFC)- Ryan Griffen
pick 2 (RFC)- Brett Deledio
pick 4 (RFC)- Thomas Reddin

If we took the pick 5... then It would probably end up

1- Griffen, 4-Tambling, 5-Reddin


Just to answer a query re: possible pick between 7 and 10...I think the tigers would like to get another young ruckman...re: Cameron Wood.

PS- I remember that a couple of years ago RFC was really interested in Hamish McIntosh. Unfortunately we didnt have a low enough pick to get him in the draft. McIntosh wants out of North Melbourne, so dont be surprised to see us get him via a trade or the PSD.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: om21 on September 14, 2004, 10:50:50 AM
Tarrant for Otto is growing legs.........

Tarrant to Richmond is hot.....
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: PuntRdRoar on September 14, 2004, 11:13:09 AM
I dont like the Otto for Tarrant trade ... but the jungle drums are beating that Richmonds list will be substantially changed...amongst them afew big names will be gone!
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 14, 2004, 11:15:34 AM
Ottens to go but I dint think Tarrant will end up with us, more likely the Demons, three way deal or something ;)
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: PuntRdRoar on September 14, 2004, 11:19:08 AM
hey Jacko...do u rate Hamish McIntosh? and second, can you tell us how much of cut Gaspar took?
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Harry on September 14, 2004, 12:13:22 PM
Tarrant for Otto is growing legs.........

Tarrant to Richmond is hot.....

Yeah - if they want to throw in pick 7 in the deal.  Otherwise forget it.

Tarrant is overrated.  He will be much worse at Richmond as he's the type of full forward that needs precise delivery.  He is a crap contested mark.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 14, 2004, 12:19:32 PM
I would think that only four people would know how much his contract was cut. Gas, His manager, Greg M and the bank !
Speculating about how much someone gets is fairy stuff, the only thing we know for sure that he has to perform a lot better than he did. Gas in form is an assest, Gas out of form is a big liabilty as our position on the ladder indicates.

Hamish McIntosh, I really dont know. Seen him train, jury is out !
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: RonBranton on September 14, 2004, 12:24:31 PM
I just can't understand why Ottens would want to go. He's on top dollar at Richmond and could only get a nominal increase elsewhere. He's expressed a desire publicly (on MMM) to stay. There are no ties in SA that would make him want to go there - his mum and brother are both settled here.

I can only guess that he's not happy with the Richmond offer. He went from wanting to stay a few weeks before the season end to saying his future was "iffy" at the B&F.

He would be a huge loss imho, but I know not everyone agrees - he's only 24 !!

More will come clear after Sunday -  ;)

Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 14, 2004, 12:27:33 PM
Its called $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Ronnie.
Black and white Dollars. Eddie McOttens !
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 14, 2004, 01:00:53 PM

I can only guess that he's not happy with the Richmond offer.

Or his manager isn't happy with it. Who is his manager Ricky Nixon? ::)

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He went from wanting to stay a few weeks before the season end to saying his future was "iffy" at the B&F.


I have to say I am confused. They have offered him a new contract - if the Club wanted to get rid of him why offer him a new contract. He has said he wont hold the club to ransom - as I said confusing

Quote
He would be a huge loss imho, but I know not everyone agrees - he's only 24 !!

I agree Ron - and he will have a quality coach. Him being only 24 is the key IMO - 24-29 seems to be the quality years for ruckman.

Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: RonBranton on September 14, 2004, 01:06:08 PM
I believe his manager has been with him since he was 16 - I can't remember his name but I think he's only got Brad. It's not Ricky Nixon - unless he has changed recently.

 
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: shawry on September 14, 2004, 07:51:39 PM
Ottens is just about to hit his prime.  After all these years of waiting for him to develop it would seem like such a waste to trade him.  Depends what we would get in return, would want ot be worthwhile for our future.  Chris Tarrant would not cut htemustard as I dont rate him aynway far too inconsistent.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 14, 2004, 08:05:51 PM
Although Otto is responsible himself to perfrom we have hindered his development by not having a ruck coach this year and Loewe before that, having dimwits in the coaching box and not drafting/recruiting enough talls on our list to share the workload. Sad to see him move on (if he does) and blossom at another club just when we now have Wallace and just as, Shawry said, he's turned 24. IMO Otto should be played at CHF with occasional stints in the ruck.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 14, 2004, 09:02:21 PM
you will find that RFC wont have a ruck coach next year either
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 15, 2004, 04:06:27 AM
you will find that RFC wont have a ruck coach next year either

We can't afford one next year  :(.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: om21 on September 15, 2004, 08:32:35 AM
you will find that RFC wont have a ruck coach next year either

Did we have one this year? HAHAHAHAHA Seriously the way Otto was tapping it, I would wonder if we had anyone there.....

I tend to agree with mightytiges......Otto aint no ruckman, hes actually one of the worst tap-ruckmen in the AFL.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Disco on September 15, 2004, 10:53:43 AM
Im with you OM21, and he's lazy too!

Never seems to pull his weight behind play, he was caughtout so many times, classic example was against the kangaroos, Corey made him look stupid!
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 16, 2004, 12:32:05 AM
Apparently the Eagles have said they are interested in Otto or Nathan Thompson and are offering Braun, Morrison, Wooden and Wirrpunda in an attempt to snare one of them.

Ah.....Pass! 
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 16, 2004, 06:23:27 AM
Morrison and Wirrapunda actually go alright.
Your right about Ottens being lazy
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: RonBranton on September 16, 2004, 10:47:23 AM
(Jack - that's you're right - lol)

KB said on SEN that the Bullies are so annoyed with TW poaching their people that a group of influential supporters are considering financing an offer for Ottens.

At least we now know why he has gone from a stayer to doubtfull - as suspected, the club has offered him less. I'm not sure that's warranted - imho they could justify maintaining his salary and a wage cut is a reflection of a previous bad decision.

   
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 16, 2004, 10:50:00 AM
But the big rumour is Ronnie that you are off to the "Labor Party"" :rollin
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: RonBranton on September 16, 2004, 10:55:13 AM
Jack - how could I support the Labor Party when they can't even spell their name correctly ¿
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 16, 2004, 10:57:21 AM
Yes Mr Dickionary :lol
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: om21 on September 16, 2004, 12:54:51 PM
Morrison and Wirrapunda for Otto...........Now Ill drink to that!!!!

Another midfielder and a solid small-type defender....for an overated tap ruckman....

How can we lose?
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Harry on September 16, 2004, 01:12:31 PM
Morrison and Wirrapunda for Otto...........Now Ill drink to that!!!!

Another midfielder and a solid small-type defender....for an overated tap ruckman....

How can we lose?

We can lose big time.  Morrison is old and very average and Wirrapunda is injury prone and not exactly a spring chicken.  We would be mad to go for that trade.

We must aim for a top 10 draft pick PLUS another pick AND a good young player if we are even gonna think about trading him. 

I think Adelaides offer of Reilly, pick 8 and 24 is the best.  We could even force their hand and make them trade Hentchel instead of Reilly.  Take it or leave it you crow farks !!!  LMAOO.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: om21 on September 16, 2004, 03:00:59 PM
POint taken HH but people arnt stupid either....Otto isnt exactly injury-free....and you will find that Wirrapunda is only 24-25.....the fact hes been playing since he was 16 makes him appear older than what he is.
Nothing wrong with Morrison either.....

Otto hasnt dominated a game in ages.....he has still not learnt how to palm the ball down to our players...

That deal isnt as stupid as it sounds.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 16, 2004, 05:04:45 PM
Morrison did have a top second half of the year but he turns 27 by the start of next season and has played only 39 games in the past 4 years mainly due to injury. Not what we need. Wirrapunda has turned 25 and is injury prone as Harry said. He's also only 173cm "tall". I think we've seen with Brown and Johnson that recruiting even good players in their mid-20's doesn't solve our deficienes one iota. We need to develop high quality youth on our own and only having/receiving high draft picks gives you that opportunity to get them.



Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 16, 2004, 06:26:55 PM
Just announced on Ch 7 News - Jolly has told the Dees that he wants to be traded.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 16, 2004, 07:06:43 PM
This could involve a three way deal with you know who !
Margos little boy could be gone !
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 16, 2004, 07:50:24 PM

At least we now know why he has gone from a stayer to doubtfull - as suspected, the club has offered him less. I'm not sure that's warranted - imho they could justify maintaining his salary and a wage cut is a reflection of a previous bad decision.
   

If his last contract was based on what he could be rather than what he was worth then yes it was a bad decision and let's be honest there have been a number of them over the years. But (and I know it is a big but) now if they are saying this is what we believe you are worth then the Club is right to offer him less.   

If he really wants to stay and the Club really want him to stay (and that's what both parties have been saying for a month) then this should be worked  out very very quickly.
Title: Wirrpunda wanted man
Post by: mightytiges on September 17, 2004, 04:15:25 AM
Wirrpunda wanted man
17 September 2004   
Herald Sun
Jon Pierik

WEST Coast moved last night to hose down rumours dashing halfback David Wirrpunda wants to return to Victoria.

But it's been reported the Eagles may look at Richmond's Brad Ottens and Hawthorn's Nathan Thompson after ruling out Carlton's Lance Whitnall as a possible solution to their forward quandary.

Whitnall looks likely to stay with the Blues after the embattled centre half-forward met his manager Ricky Nixon yesterday.

Rumours have been abuzz in Perth this week that Wirrpunda, 25, who still has one year left on his contract, is keen to arrange a trade and join a Victorian side.

But Eagles chief executive Trevor Nisbett scuttled such talk.

"David has another year to run on a contract and it would be unlikely that he would move unless it was his wishes and another club showed enough interest in him," Nisbett said.

"I wouldn't think that's a possibility.

"He's had his interviews with John (Worsfold) and there was certainly nothing untoward in that. He finished the year off very well."

Wirrpunda, who came from Healesville, was taken as a compensatory pick by the Eagles in the 1996 pre-season draft, and has endured a mixed year.

He was dropped in Round 14 after a sluggish opening to the year, but returned a week later and was one of the Eagles' better performers in their run to the finals.

It was reported this week the Eagles had Ottens, out of contract at the Tigers, and Thompson, who is still under contract at the Hawks, in their sights.

West Coast is keen to secure an experienced key-position player to complement its developing forward structure.

Ottens has the option of signing either a two or three-year deal with the Tigers, but has yet to make up his mind.

Nisbett said last night the Eagles had not approached either player, but would be interested in dealing for the pair if they were available during trade week.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,10788756%255E19771,00.html
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Harry on September 17, 2004, 09:43:51 AM
Now, I wonder what the eagles have to offer........hmmmmmmm.......Judd perhaps ?  That would be a fair swap IMO.  The eagles have a great midfield and would really benefit by playing Ottens at Full forward alongside Matera.  Whereas we severley lack classy midfielders.  You wanna do business eagles ?  Let's do business.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: froars on September 17, 2004, 10:28:13 AM
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Oxman wanted to know:  What was the story with the Jophn Pitura deal?

From the Encyclopaedia of AFL Footballers:


A stylish left footer who was at the centre of one of the most bitter clearance wrangles in League history.  Pitura came from Wagga Tigers and showed his talent as a flanker and centreman with the Swans.  He made the state side in 1973, but over the following summer he stunned the Swans when he said he wanted to quit, saying he was sick of broken promises.  The stand-off lasted until July when he was suddenly talked into playing again.  Stories circulated that he had only returned on the condition that he could be cleared to Richmond.  At the end of 1974 the fight started again and Pitura threatened to challenge the clearance rules in court. Richmond was fined for trying to gain Pitura's clearance without seeking South's permission to approach him.  Finally, in May 1975 Pitura was cleared in a swap for Brian Roberts, Francis Jackson and Graeme Teasdale.  Many people believed that the issue damaged Richmond's morale and in later years coach Hafey admitted that his club has been obsessed with getting Pitura.  Pitura failed to live up to expectations at Punt Road and at the end of 1977 went to Sydney club North Shore as captain-coach.

One of the worst decisions i can remember the club making - to lose the heart and soul of the club in a player like Whale Roberts, and then for Teasdale to win the Brownlow really rubbed salt into the wound.  And then to get his bloody son in a father-son later who played a massive 2 games lol really topped it off.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 17, 2004, 11:32:50 AM
And furthmore , we had a choice to keep Mark Pitura (his son ) or Paul Dimmatina. you guessed it, we kept Mark who played 1 game, Paul went on and played 150 odd with the Bulldogs. ::)
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: om21 on September 17, 2004, 11:36:45 AM
Mark stuffen Pitura......

How farcical was that?

#50 was he not?
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 17, 2004, 11:41:11 AM
Tell you what else I reckon thats funny, played like Fiora, they are BOTH scared !
Very similar players, decades apart !
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Disco on September 17, 2004, 12:17:15 PM
Forget recycled hacks lets go with youth and generate a few of our own! :lol
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Harry on September 17, 2004, 12:48:28 PM
Apparently ottens wants to go to port.

bye bye ottens. 
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Ox on September 17, 2004, 01:15:04 PM
Thanx 4 the info Bonny (Froars) :thumbsup

stuff times have chnaged.

The AFL Is now able to lay a charge on the field and then later change it -not even the cops can do that.

Nazi prix.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: froars on September 17, 2004, 01:26:45 PM
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Thanx 4 the info Bonny (Froars)
No worries, i'm full of it lol
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Fishfinger on September 17, 2004, 02:04:32 PM
The Il Supremo from the site some here can only access at night claims to have info that Ottens wants to go to Port Adelaide. Says it has nothing to do with money and everything to do with him wanting to leave.

 ??? I heard him say he wants to stay. If he in fact does want to go I'd be thinking money is a big factor.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 17, 2004, 02:45:02 PM
Isn't Otto's mum and Co now settled in Melbourne? At the moment I've heard/read rumours of Otto going everywhere bar Queensland and NSW ???.

Plus why would Port need another big man - Brogan, Lade, Tredrea, Primus, Cornes, Wakelin, Thurstans, White, Ackland and add Bishop and Shaun Burgoyne who both play tall? Although their midfield brigade is excellent they will need replacements with Francou after two knees nearing 30, Wanganeen and Hardwick nearing retirement, Schofield getting on and Carr most likely off to Freo.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: JohnF on September 17, 2004, 02:57:12 PM
Give port Ottens, his mum and Fiora for Brogan and Salopek   :thumbsup
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2004, 02:58:10 PM
I have some info too :thumbsup

Would you like to me share :help


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I really am getting a nasty headache :rollin
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: JohnF on September 17, 2004, 03:01:50 PM
  :rollin

Are you getting this info from a reliable source WP?
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2004, 03:04:35 PM
  :rollin

Are you getting this info from a reliable source WP?

Horses mouth JohnF ;)

er.... neighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :scream :rollin
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: JohnF on September 17, 2004, 03:05:34 PM
 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 17, 2004, 07:01:41 PM
At the moment I've heard/read rumours of Otto going everywhere bar Queensland and NSW ???.

Well I can now cross off NSW from that list. Latest rumour is Otto off to Sydney  ::)
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 17, 2004, 09:48:41 PM
Ottens is just OFF full stop !
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 20, 2004, 07:03:09 PM
This was posted one of the Melbourne forums - Demonology:

Ty Zantuck (Tigers) to Melbourne for 2nd round pick (pick #29)

Given that Ty wants out I would be quite happy with that trade.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: froars on September 20, 2004, 07:33:48 PM
And to his dad's old club
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Bulluss on September 20, 2004, 08:29:10 PM
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The Il Supremo from the site some here can only access at night claims to have info that Ottens wants to go to Port Adelaide. Says it has nothing to do with money and everything to do with him wanting to leave.


What the stuff would she know anyway, she thinks she has contacts. The only contacts she has are in her eyes. :scream
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 20, 2004, 10:15:06 PM
Bully, I think you have your sites mixed up ? i think they were referring to this site, not the ""other  "" site
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 27, 2004, 05:52:18 PM
Mick Malthouse was just on Ch 10 news claiming the Pies aren't interested in any of the uncontracted players named already. Ch 10 was saying the Pies are after Travis Johnstone.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Fishfinger on September 29, 2004, 05:10:33 PM
Rumour around today that Gilbee & P Bowden may come to Richmond for Rodan & a mystery player.

Hey Ronnie Branton - how come when you post a question mark it is always upside down? :)
How do you do it, is your keyboard an old typewriter?
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Tiger Spirit on September 29, 2004, 05:30:33 PM
I reckon he just stands on his head when he types it FishFinger. :rollin
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Fishfinger on September 29, 2004, 06:00:28 PM
I'd already tried it TS. It didn't work, but I glanced at the AFL ladder at the same time and that looked good.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 29, 2004, 06:51:35 PM
Ronnie might just be old all over ;) 
Fish Finger has the right mail too, Rodan gone ,to be traded
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on September 29, 2004, 07:34:41 PM
Rumour around today that Gilbee & P Bowden may come to Richmond for Rodan & a mystery player.

Chaffey or Fiora  8)
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 29, 2004, 07:51:20 PM
Chaffey or Fiora  8)



How about both of 'em :cheers
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Fishfinger on September 29, 2004, 07:55:10 PM
Chaffey or Fiora  8)
If the Bulldog recuiters take note of the Dogs board on BF it would be Chaffey. They rate him on there.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 29, 2004, 08:01:57 PM
Chaffey or Fiora  8)
If the Bulldog recuiters take note of the Dogs board on BF it would be Chaffey. They rate him on there.

Where do we sign? Take it GM - sold -  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Jackstar on September 29, 2004, 10:39:02 PM
Bye Chaffey ;)
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Harry on September 30, 2004, 11:04:59 AM
Gilbee and Bowden for Rodan and Chaffey would be a great deal.  I'd rather keep Rodan and offload Fiora though, but I'd be more than happy with this deal.  As long as Chaffey goes.  Chaffey IMO is the most dispensible player on our list that has some market worth.  We have many players that can replae him on the bak stuff - Newman, Hartigan, Bowden, Pettifer, Jackson, Moore, etc.  Bye bye Chaffey.
Title: Hawks want 2 first round picks for Nathan Thomson
Post by: mightytiges on October 02, 2004, 02:10:01 AM
It's rumoured the Hawks are asking for 2 first round picks as well for Nathan Thomson  ??? lol. Keep driving the big men's prices up  :thumbsup.

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Hawthorn football operations manager John Hook refused to confirm rumours that the club was looking for two first-round draft picks in compensation for Thompson, but made it clear that the price for the big forward would be high.

"Unless we're adequately compensated for the vice-captain, as the key forward, still a young player, we won't do the deal," Hook said. "We're prepared to listen but they've got to come up with something, and if they think a first-round draft pick is going to do the deal, it ain't going to happen."

West Coast is believed to regard the Hawks' alleged asking price as too high, opening the field up to the Victorian clubs. It has been suggested that the bidding frenzy for Ottens and the strong interest in Simmonds could drive Thompson's price up.

http://realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/10/01/1096527942928.html?from=storyrhs
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on October 02, 2004, 02:38:27 AM
Also the Blumfield for the Bombers' 4th pick (62?) has popped up again. Doubt we'll get their 3rd (46?). If that doesn't occur by friday next week then we'll delist him instead.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: julzqld on October 02, 2004, 10:30:22 PM
I've heard from 2 different people tonight that they read in The Australian that Richo might be traded.  I haven't heard anything remotely close to this and wondered if anyone could shed some light on this. :help
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on October 03, 2004, 05:59:21 PM
I've heard from 2 different people tonight that they read in The Australian that Richo might be traded.  I haven't heard anything remotely close to this and wondered if anyone could shed some light on this. :help

Richo won't be traded. If he was going it would've been last year. He has 2 more years on his contract to go and is now on the Vets list so only half his salary counts towards the salary cap. Terry also wants Richo to play across half-forward.

The Australian said Otto was off to Sydney when he wants to stay in Victoria  :P.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on October 03, 2004, 07:14:27 PM
Apparently Simmonds has asked Freo to trade him to either Richmond, Carlton, Roos or Sydney.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Fwoy3 on October 03, 2004, 11:51:06 PM
Apparently Simmonds has asked Freo to trade him to either Richmond, Carlton, Roos or Sydney.

Hopefully in that order :thumbsup
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: mightytiges on October 07, 2004, 01:44:53 PM
Latest rumour

Carr to Fremantle
Pick 11 to Geelong
Pick 27 to Brisbane
Enright and Shattock to Port Adelaide

Geelong would then trade picks 11 and 16 to Richmond for Ottens.
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Puntroadroar on October 07, 2004, 01:55:08 PM
i Would take that in a flash!


surely Miller wont be so stubborn on pick 11 FFS!  >:(
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Fwoy3 on October 07, 2004, 01:57:42 PM
How about Geelong then trade that pick 11 plus a good ordinary player (Wojinski/Gardiner etc) to Collingwood for pick 7.  :thumbsup

Or better yet, trade the player and pick 16, then give us 7 & 11  :rollin
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: H Tiger on October 07, 2004, 02:32:41 PM
Don't like our chances of 7 & 11 F

It would be nice though.

How strong deep is this years Draft?

Who will we take Number 1?
Title: Re: Trade rumours
Post by: Rodgerramjet on October 07, 2004, 02:47:35 PM
How about Geelong then trade that pick 11 plus a good ordinary player (Wojinski/Gardiner etc) to Collingwood for pick 7.  :thumbsup

Or better yet, trade the player and pick 16, then give us 7 & 11  :rollin

Nice one Fwoy, I'd be in that :thumbsup