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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ramps on August 09, 2009, 07:06:18 PM
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Jade Rawlings seems like a personable type of guy and at 31 he has made best fist of what he could with this list but the job at Richmond is to hard for Jade- at 31 years of age he isnt ready for it. Maybe down the track- who knows, but right now Richmond needs a tough taskmaster- almost a dictatorial approach to the playing list, its development. We need someone with known successes and someone with a proven record for hardness. The next coach will not only be required to look at the list, the new coach has a bigger job, he needs to look at the fitness staff and infact he probably needs to go through the whole joint and make the place in his image- as best he can. The job at Richmond is to hard for Jade. God help us next week vs Collingwood, its going to be a 15 goal flogging.
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Jade Rawlings seems like a personable type of guy and at 31 he has made best fist of what he could with this list but the job at Richmond is to hard for Jade- at 31 years of age he isnt ready for it. Maybe down the track- who knows, but right now Richmond needs a tough taskmaster- almost a dictatorial approach to the playing list, its development. We need someone with known successes and someone with a proven record for hardness. The next coach will not only be required to look at the list, the new coach has a bigger job, he needs to look at the fitness staff and infact he probably needs to go through the whole joint and make the place in his image- as best he can. The job at Richmond is to hard for Jade. God help us next week vs Collingwood, its going to be a 15 goal flogging.
Mate, been telling you all for the past 3 years, :banghead.
Jade Rawlings is like a maiden galloper running on Derby Day at Flemington ,when he should be going around in an Avoca Maiden :banghead
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
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Pretty simple, he is way out of his league.
Forget about players talking him up etc, thats whats wrong at punt rd, players are paid to play football, not talk crap
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They learn the talking crap off March fly :lol
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Jade Rawlings seems like a personable type of guy and at 31 he has made best fist of what he could with this list but the job at Richmond is to hard for Jade- at 31 years of age he isnt ready for it. Maybe down the track- who knows, but right now Richmond needs a tough taskmaster- almost a dictatorial approach to the playing list, its development. We need someone with known successes and someone with a proven record for hardness. The next coach will not only be required to look at the list, the new coach has a bigger job, he needs to look at the fitness staff and infact he probably needs to go through the whole joint and make the place in his image- as best he can. The job at Richmond is to hard for Jade. God help us next week vs Collingwood, its going to be a 15 goal flogging.
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Won't be 15 goals Ramps will be 8-10 goals. Of course we'll be competitive early for Joel just so the clappers in the member reserved seating area will be happy in the knowledge a winning culture is being preserved before the Pies will overrun us. Much like our NAB cup game earlier in the year.
Jade the Blade will not be our senior full time caoch in 2010. His reign is for a caretaker only for 3 more games. Nothing more and nothing less.
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we learned 2 things today
1....3/4 of our team are not up to it
2/...Jade is not up to coaching at this level, he did us a favour today, showed us all he is not up to it
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we learned 2 things today
1....3/4 of our team are not up to it
2/...Jade is not up to coaching at this level, he did us a favour today, showed us all he is not up to it
Correct again
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
prob same spot those that promoting Hardwick will be hiding the first time we're on the end of a hiding under his stewardship :o
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
prob same spot those that promoting Hardwick will be hiding the first time we're on the end of a hiding under his stewardship :o
Oh yes the I told u so smugness. Waiting for that day?
Even Blind Freedie can see that Jade at this stage of his coaching career is not ready to coach at this level as he won't come up against crap teams like Essendon North and Melbourne every week. Nothing personal on Jade just an obvious observation.
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
Really :-\
God help us if we win next week
Actually if you think about it logically and take off the blinkers for minute, next week will actually tell us more about Rawlings the coach than any other game I reckon
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
prob same spot those that promoting Hardwick will be hiding the first time we're on the end of a hiding under his stewardship :o
not until i see us beating the top teams will i start celebrating. That cant be anyone as coach i dont care but i have learnt many many times that meaningless wins dont save our club we need much more than that.
It was the tackle count under Jade which says those wins were fruitless and meant nothing.
tackle count under Rawlings has moved up one spot to 12th. Until i see us in the top 5 we are stuffed as a football club.
We dont play for each other we dont block or shepherd for each other. WE NEED HARD NUTS TO CLEAN OUT THE JOINT>
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
Really :-\
God help us if we win next week
Actually if you think about it logically and take off the blinkers for minute, next week will actually tell us more about Rawlings the coach than any other game I reckon
And the club culture he so readily and conveniently spoke about post match.
Would an honorable 20 point loss appease us fans?
What would we feel after a 10 goal defeat which is what many are expecting.
Either result would show to me nothing has changed. We got flogged in rd 1 and were honorable at mission impossible in rd 2.
Wallace wasn't the man for the job then and unless we win next week Jade should not even be considered for the job now.
If we want to brutal as a club on field we need to be brutal off it.
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
Really :-\
God help us if we win next week
Actually if you think about it logically and take off the blinkers for minute, next week will actually tell us more about Rawlings the coach than any other game I reckon
WP my blinkers are working ok, l go straight ahead ;D
You know that wont happen next week as l cant remember when the players played for each other but were close with Cambo last game at Geelong.
Skunks as much as l hate them are going to 100 point us & l be hiding in the superbox ;D till everyone leaves ;D
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
Really :-\
God help us if we win next week
Actually if you think about it logically and take off the blinkers for minute, next week will actually tell us more about Rawlings the coach than any other game I reckon
Next week , will tell alot. Lets hope we just ""dont roll over and die "" like we did yesterday.
Instead of the supporters wearing the Richmond Colors next week, maybe we should all bring WHITE FLAGS. Might spur them on a bit. :banghead
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
Really :-\
God help us if we win next week
Actually if you think about it logically and take off the blinkers for minute, next week will actually tell us more about Rawlings the coach than any other game I reckon
Next week , will tell alot. Lets hope we just ""dont roll over and die "" like we did yesterday.
Instead of the supporters wearing the Richmond Colors next week, maybe we should all bring WHITE FLAGS. Might spur them on a bit. :banghead
maybe l should wear the wifes jacket when leaving to hide under
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Jade still has my support, just like the new coach whoever it will be and just like the coaches in the past! Thats why we are called SUPPORTers! Jade is on a hiding to nothing, meaningless wins for a few weeks and then not up to it when we lose! Its not Jade who is not up to it guys, its the list! The whole list as a group too!
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
Really :-\
God help us if we win next week
Actually if you think about it logically and take off the blinkers for minute, next week will actually tell us more about Rawlings the coach than any other game I reckon
Next week , will tell alot. Lets hope we just ""dont roll over and die "" like we did yesterday.
Instead of the supporters wearing the Richmond Colors next week, maybe we should all bring WHITE FLAGS. Might spur them on a bit. :banghead
I'll be there and will be wearing the colours.
And I won't be leaving early unlike some (hey Jack).
:cheers
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
Really :-\
God help us if we win next week
Actually if you think about it logically and take off the blinkers for minute, next week will actually tell us more about Rawlings the coach than any other game I reckon
Next week , will tell alot. Lets hope we just ""dont roll over and die "" like we did yesterday.
Instead of the supporters wearing the Richmond Colors next week, maybe we should all bring WHITE FLAGS. Might spur them on a bit. :banghead
I'll be there and will be wearing the colours.
And I won't be leaving early unlike some (hey Jack).
:cheers
Did leave early actually, didnt want to put my 7yo daughter throught it 2 weeks in a row. :banghead
Way too cold as well, if the players arent going to put in, me neither
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i left early for the first time in my life...if the players weren't prepared to make an effort , either was I :-\
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Jade still has my support, just like the new coach whoever it will be and just like the coaches in the past! Thats why we are called SUPPORTers! Jade is on a hiding to nothing, meaningless wins for a few weeks and then not up to it when we lose! Its not Jade who is not up to it guys, its the list! The whole list as a group too!
That list nearly shocked Geelong at Geelong, so the list is upto it when they can dominate like that against a quality side.
It was the bad decisions from the umpires that cost us that game & a heated moment by McGuane.
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
Really :-\
God help us if we win next week
Actually if you think about it logically and take off the blinkers for minute, next week will actually tell us more about Rawlings the coach than any other game I reckon
Next week , will tell alot. Lets hope we just ""dont roll over and die "" like we did yesterday.
Instead of the supporters wearing the Richmond Colors next week, maybe we should all bring WHITE FLAGS. Might spur them on a bit. :banghead
I'll be there and will be wearing the colours.
And I won't be leaving early unlike some (hey Jack).
:cheers
Did leave early actually, didnt want to put my 7yo daughter throught it 2 weeks in a row. :banghead
Way too cold as well, if the players arent going to put in, me neither
I left early as well, and i wont be going again this year, call me what you will, but this year has been a nightmare from round 1!
Wake me up when September ends (good name for a song lol )
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;D :lol Rawling fans will be hiding tonight. :rollin
Really :-\
God help us if we win next week
Actually if you think about it logically and take off the blinkers for minute, next week will actually tell us more about Rawlings the coach than any other game I reckon
Next week , will tell alot. Lets hope we just ""dont roll over and die "" like we did yesterday.
Instead of the supporters wearing the Richmond Colors next week, maybe we should all bring WHITE FLAGS. Might spur them on a bit. :banghead
I'll be there and will be wearing the colours.
And I won't be leaving early unlike some (hey Jack).
:cheers
Did leave early actually, didnt want to put my 7yo daughter throught it 2 weeks in a row. :banghead
Way too cold as well, if the players arent going to put in, me neither
I left early as well, and i wont be going again this year, call me what you will, but this year has been a nightmare from round 1!
Wake me up when September ends (good name for a song lol )
Not going next week may mean that you will miss our greatest ever victory over the scum.
I'll be going to say good bye to Joel and Jade.
:cheers
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I hope i do miss our greatest victory over them, I weighed it up and I just cant do it, ive offered my ticket to my sister who is a scum supporter so...damn I hope we win, I might join the melbourne supporters at the snow :cheers :gotigers
p.s Ive passed my goodbyes to joel along :gotigers
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Could Jade do the job ?....I guess we will never know now.
One thing is extremely apparent and that is Richmond supporters are going to require a truck load of PATIENCE.
Sleep easy Ramps....You are going to get your man. :thumbsup
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Could Jade do the job ?....I guess we will never know now.
One thing is extremely apparent and that is Richmond supporters are going to require a truck load of PATIENCE.
Sleep easy Ramps....You are going to get your man. :thumbsup
Patience i have got. Gee we have waited this long.
as long as they start by trading away average players and not giving away "DRAFT PICKS" then i for one is happy to be patient.
the first coach to keep all our picks deserves a big pat on the back
this is what the problem is at Punt road. short term fixes that go no where.
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We need more Tigers in our jungle & keep the outsiders outside the punt road fencing
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We need more Tigers in our jungle & keep the outsiders outside the punt road fencing
Rubbish, we don't want the best Tiger, we want the best full stop.
Benny Gale fits the best availalble model and happens to be a Tiger, Neil Balme would fit in there too if we could get him
Other than that, we need people who come from success, recent Tigers don't know much about that
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We need more Tigers in our jungle & keep the outsiders outside the punt road fencing
Rubbish, we don't want the best Tiger, we want the best full stop.
Benny Gale fits the best availalble model and happens to be a Tiger, Neil Balme would fit in there too if we could get him
Other than that, we need people who come from success, recent Tigers don't know much about that
shooting me when you have clearly not understood what l said
we need Richmond people at the club, & not people from other clubs to leak information out
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Did anyone catch Luke Darcy on OneHD tonight saying that Jade Rawlings hadn't put a foot wrong since taking up the Caretakers role and that he took the hardline with his press conference yesterday!!!!!!
Oh please Luke don't be so naive as to think your viewers wouldn't pick up on your obvious bias for your mate.
If you ask the faithful he has put two feet wrong and the main one is he is just too far out of his depth!!!
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Anyone out there interested in pointing out all the things Jade has done WRONG since taking over as caretaker coach.Please share what you would of done instead.
I want to see specifics....
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Anyone out there interested in pointing out all the things Jade has done WRONG since taking over as caretaker coach.Please share what you would of done instead.
I want to see specifics....
* Would try and keep at least 2 players inside F50 at any given time. No good putting young players behind the ball, as what happened on Sunday, too many times when rebounding there was no one to kick too.
* Would have played Simmo last weekend. No good throwing Angus and Tyrone into combat with Jolley and Co. result= they got slaughtered.
* Would have played Tuck the past 2 weeks instead of White. And tried to play Tuck rotating through F 50 as well, takes a good mark.
* kick ins have been terrible, still cant work out what they are trying to achieve.
* Rotations of onballers through the interchange are on the verge of being crazy. Would push Lids down forward on occasions.. Also why on earth do we interchange players at stoppages or when the ball is in D 50, CRAZY STUFF. We play one player short on occasions as the player is running off the ground with his back to the play while his opponent runs to the contest
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Anyone out there interested in pointing out all the things Jade has done WRONG since taking over as caretaker coach.Please share what you would of done instead.
I want to see specifics....
Specifics..okay what this is a start
In Bowden
In Tuck
In Hughes (he should be playing. Lets see what he has got one last time before we flog him off for a 2cent coin to the nearest bidder.
Out Mclovin
Out Patterson
Out Brown
People will say why Bowden he is not our future bla bla bla well that may be true but neither is Mclovin, who plays in his spot, so at least give the guy a break and let him finish off the year.
Why come out after only a loss and start bragging about Cultural problems. If its such a big problem which it is he should say it after a win also.
He should never comment on players contracts at all given he is not the coach. What a disgrace to comment on Cuz and Richo but not on Bowden.
game plan. well lets just kick it sideways shall. Kick outs of defence. Same problem different coach. We couldnt land a coast to coast if our lives depended on it.
Our tackling pressure under Rawlings. Well its jumped a massive one spot to 12th.
Bottom line is Jade is a nice guy but not good enough. Is a yes man and used Bowden as a scapegoat meanwhile N.Brown and Mclovin roll around in the seniors earning stuff all possy's and defensive pressure.
Jade is not tough in fact i think he is weak which is the why the players are playing like that weak.
Very soft footballer and not what this club needs.
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* Rotations of onballers through the interchange are on the verge of being crazy. Would push Lids down forward on occasions.. Also why on earth do we interchange players at stoppages or when the ball is in D 50, CRAZY STUFF. We play one player short on occasions as the player is running off the ground with his back to the play while his opponent runs to the contest
Away games I sit in the MCC behind the bench and have noticed this going on - Crazy stuff really.
Actually seen guys coming off during play with no one ready to go and being sent back 5 metres from the bench.
Got a lot of work to do in the rotation work that's for sure :banghead
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* Rotations of onballers through the interchange are on the verge of being crazy. Would push Lids down forward on occasions.. Also why on earth do we interchange players at stoppages or when the ball is in D 50, CRAZY STUFF. We play one player short on occasions as the player is running off the ground with his back to the play while his opponent runs to the contest
Away games I sit in the MCC behind the bench and have noticed this going on - Crazy stuff really.
Actually seen guys coming off during play with no one ready to go and being sent back 5 metres from the bench.
Got a lot of work to do in the rotation work that's for sure :banghead
Have a look next week when guys are running away from stopagges to run to the bench when the ball is too be bounced, we are they only club who do it
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Anyone out there interested in pointing out all the things Jade has done WRONG since taking over as caretaker coach.Please share what you would of done instead.
I want to see specifics....
* Would try and keep at least 2 players inside F50 at any given time. No good putting young players behind the ball, as what happened on Sunday, too many times when rebounding there was no one to kick too.
* Would have played Simmo last weekend. No good throwing Angus and Tyrone into combat with Jolley and Co. result= they got slaughtered.
* Would have played Tuck the past 2 weeks instead of White. And tried to play Tuck rotating through F 50 as well, takes a good mark.
* kick ins have been terrible, still cant work out what they are trying to achieve.
* Rotations of onballers through the interchange are on the verge of being crazy. Would push Lids down forward on occasions.. Also why on earth do we interchange players at stoppages or when the ball is in D 50, CRAZY STUFF. We play one player short on occasions as the player is running off the ground with his back to the play while his opponent runs to the contest
The player running away with his back from the contest D50 to interchange being one man down stumped me. This is a major error from the player & the coach. From a coaching point he failed bigtime. The player should be sent back to Coburg for listening to the runner to come off leaving his team mates to do the work & waited till the ball was going down that wing but this is Richmond we talking about J :thumbsup ;D
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Today highlighted a few things and that there can only be 2 men for this job. T
his job is bigger than Jade and so too i think Hinkley and Richardson unless they have help.
Hardwick and/or Matthews/Sheeds it just has to be. We have room to move and we have cash in the bank. we should be throwing everything at Lethal to get him down to Punt Road as a mentor. If not Sheeds or both because i really think if we dont land a big fish like one of those 2 we are stuffed.
The only thing stopping this club from going completely under is US.
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Anyone out there interested in pointing out all the things Jade has done WRONG since taking over as caretaker coach.Please share what you would of done instead.
I want to see specifics....
the last 3 weeks have been the worst football I have ever seen
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Today highlighted a few things and that there can only be 2 men for this job. T
his job is bigger than Jade and so too i think Hinkley and Richardson unless they have help.
Hardwick and/or Matthews/Sheeds it just has to be. We have room to move and we have cash in the bank. we should be throwing everything at Lethal to get him down to Punt Road as a mentor. If not Sheeds or both because i really think if we dont land a big fish like one of those 2 we are stuffed.
The only thing stopping this club from going completely under is US.
Agree Daniel
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Anyone out there interested in pointing out all the things Jade has done WRONG since taking over as caretaker coach.Please share what you would of done instead.
I want to see specifics....
the last 3 weeks have been the worst football I have ever seen
Yep absolutely pisspoor.
However this was always going to be the case when playing the kids, combined with a list that is not up to it. No coach would have been able to get much more out of this season and anyway it is not in our interests too win many games.
Get used to it for next year or get a new hobby.
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There are still people who want Jade Rawlings to win the gig. Youve got to be effen joking :banghead
Three weeks can be a long time in Football....I doubt that there is any support for "Jade the blade" now.
But make no mistake the list is "scheissenhausen".Poor old Jade is left to coach a side full of Boys/VFL standard players.
Micheal Schumacher would not win a Grand Prix driving an old Kingswood would he.
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Three weeks can be a long time in Football....I doubt that there is any support for "Jade the blade" now.
Jade the Blade slashed his wrists. It might actually be good for both him and the club for him not to get the job. He might be able to coach, but he's very young and this is a massive, enormous project to turn this list around.
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I think the game on the weekend was Jade's final interview for the top job. We haven't really delivered since he took over. Beating teams below us by small margins and defeating Essendon with nobody left on their bench due to injury, really doesn't make me invest a whole lot of confidence in Jade's ability to coach.
Oh BTW, Admins, under existing circumstances, surely we should have a "Swear Filter" amnesty. Its just so hard to keep swearing and Richmond's more recent efforts separated. Look at all the pees and poohs going around. :lol
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Jade has lots of potential but he is about 5 years away. In the meantime he should continue to coach his own side, try and get a flag or two, hes done ok for a 31 yo in the footy industry. Its just not his time yet.
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Jade has lots of potential but he is about 5 years away. In the meantime he should continue to coach his own side, try and get a flag or two, hes done ok for a 31 yo in the footy industry. Its just not his time yet.
Agreed.
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Three weeks can be a long time in Football....I doubt that there is any support for "Jade the blade" now.
But make no mistake the list is "scheissenhausen".Poor old Jade is left to coach a side full of Boys/VFL standard players.
I have no hesitation in saying (as I have all along) that if the process deems him the best person for the job then he should get the gig.
When it is all said and done we have no idea what his plan for the future is, just like we have no idea what Hardwick's, Hinkley's or Richardson's vision for the RFC is....
Do I beleive Rawlings is the right person for this job? Yeah I do, I have from day one and I haven't changed my mind
If the process deems that he isn't the right person then so be it but if the process deems he is then he should get the job
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I think that Jade will make a fantastic AFL coach.
Despite peoples perception, he has great attributes and leadership skills that will make him successful. How can people expect him to turn what Wallace left him into a Premiership outfit in 8 weeks, no one could do that.
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I think that Jade will make a fantastic AFL coach.
Despite peoples perception, he has great attributes and leadership skills that will make him successful. How can people expect him to turn what Wallace left him into a Premiership outfit in 8 weeks, no one could do that.
Absolutely spot on TFL
Couldn't have said it better myself :thumbsup
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I think that Jade will make a fantastic AFL coach.
Despite peoples perception, he has great attributes and leadership skills that will make him successful. How can people expect him to turn what Wallace left him into a Premiership outfit in 8 weeks, no one could do that.
No, but we have every right to expect some sort of attitudinal change and apart from the heady emotion of the first couple of weeks there has been zero of that. I agree that one day he will possibly make a good coach but it's plainly obvious it's not yet, not with us anyway.
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How can people expect him to turn what Wallace left him into a Premiership outfit in 8 weeks, no one could do that.
Well they expected Wallace to do it after the crap he was left by Frawley.. maybe not 8 weeks but certainly sooner rather than later.
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I think that Jade will make a fantastic AFL coach.
Despite peoples perception, he has great attributes and leadership skills that will make him successful. How can people expect him to turn what Wallace left him into a Premiership outfit in 8 weeks, no one could do that.
No, but we have every right to expect some sort of attitudinal change and apart from the heady emotion of the first couple of weeks there has been zero of that. I agree that one day he will possibly make a good coach but it's plainly obvious it's not yet, not with us anyway.
I am with you here smokey!!