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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 17, 2009, 07:37:25 PM
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Quartermain tonight said it's down to 2 - Hardwick and Hinkley.
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Interesting he says that, Rawlings is currently sitting his second round interview tonight.
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Jon Ralph believed it was down to the same two on the Herald-Sun site.
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Jade would have to pull something completely out of left field to pull this gig off IMO. Hardwick is a shoe in for mine and always has been IMO, lets hope the decision is the right one.
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Either Hardwick or Hinkley is the correct result. Both should get full support of the supporters when 1 gets appointed.
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Interesting he says that, Rawlings is currently sitting his second round interview tonight.
Absolutely spot on TFL :thumbsup
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hahhaha...not a good time for rawlings to have his 2nd round interview and trying to sell his case. never wanted him in the first place.
would be extremely happy with either hardwick or hinkley, in that order.
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Actually not quite sure how it can be down to Harwick & Hinkley when Hinkley hasn't had his 2 interview yet ::)
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Just had a look at different forums, plenty are saying that Hardwick missed out because - North knew that Richmond is his preferred option and they couldnt afford to have another candidate turn their back on them. Does anyone know if this is true?
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If it is Hinkley and Hardwick then I can't see us going wrong. In fact throw Richardson in the mix and I really think we will have the coach to develop the list to drag us kicking and screaming from the bottom of the ladder in the near future.
Stripes
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I agree, both would be a good result for the club, lets hope whoever it is teaches the 1%ers such as sheparding is a good thing
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i agree! how can it be down to two people, if Rawlings and Hinkley are still to do there so called 'presentations'???
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Quartermain tonight said it's down to 2 - Hardwick and Hinkley.
i wouldnt read too much into that, probably wasnt aware of other applicants, quarterbrain aint the sharpest scoop going around :o
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dont know why everyone hangs off the media they have no idea who left & how many.
There is more than 4 left ;D
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I think there is a positive out of all this speculation and that is, the LEAKS appear to have dried up at the club. :thumbsup
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Does anyone reckon that Age comes into this? Hinkley I think would be almost mid 40s now and Hardwick late 30s.
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Either Hardwick or Hinkley is the correct result. Both should get full support of the supporters when 1 gets appointed.
i agree, hinkley is my choice but if hardwick gets it he will have my support
has to be better than the man with the girls name
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I thought it was funny last night on Footy Classified that Caro siad Hinkley was being interviewed last night
BAD CALL CARO :lol
He wasn't ....
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Either Hardwick or Hinkley is the correct result. Both should get full support of the supporters when 1 gets appointed.
i agree, hinkley is my choice but if hardwick gets it he will have my support
has to be better than the man with the girls name
Completely irrelevant what his name is. What counts is what is on the resume and his capacity to move the club forward in 2010 and 2011. For me Hardwick and Hinkley are infront of Jade. Jade is in his early 30s - he has plenty of time to round out his development. He probably needs to go and get a flag or two at a lower level first.
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Does anyone reckon that Age comes into this? Hinkley I think would be almost mid 40s now and Hardwick late 30s.
Hinkley turns 43 in September.
Hardwick turns 37 today. :birthday
Richardson turned 44 in May.
7 years covers them - I can't see age playing too much part in this Ramps.
For interest:
Clarkson turned 41 this year - was 36 when appointed.
Thompson turns 46 this year - was 38 when appointed.
Ratten turned 37 this year - was 35 when appointed.
Lyon turns 43 this year - was 40 when appointed.
Williams turns 51 on Friday - was 41 when appointed.
Worsfold turns 41 this year - was 34 when appointed.
Roos turned 46 this year - was 39 when appointed.
Eade turned 51 this year - was 38 when first appointed.
Craig turned 53 this year - was 49 when appointed.
Malthouse turned 56 yesterday - was 31 when first appointed.
Knights turns 39 this year - was 38 when appointed.
Harvey turned 44 this year - was 43 when appointed.
Bailey turned 42 this year - was 41 when appointed.
Voss turned 34 this year - was 34 when appointed.
Scott turned 33 this year.
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Does anyone reckon that Age comes into this? Hinkley I think would be almost mid 40s now and Hardwick late 30s.
Hinkley turns 43 in September.
Hardwick turns 37 today. :birthday
Richardson turned 44 in May.
7 years covers them - I can't see age playing too much part in this Ramps.
For interest:
Clarkson turned 41 this year - was 36 when appointed.
Thompson turns 46 this year - was 38 when appointed.
Ratten turned 37 this year - was 35 when appointed.
Lyon turns 43 this year - was 40 when appointed.
Williams turns 51 on Friday - was 41 when appointed.
Worsfold turns 41 this year - was 34 when appointed.
Roos turned 46 this year - was 39 when appointed.
Eade turned 51 this year - was 38 when first appointed.
Craig turned 53 this year - was 49 when appointed.
Malthouse turned 56 yesterday - was 31 when first appointed.
Knights turns 39 this year - was 38 when appointed.
Harvey turned 44 this year - was 43 when appointed.
Bailey turned 42 this year - was 41 when appointed.
Voss turned 34 this year - was 34 when appointed.
Scott turned 33 this year.
Good post ol smokey :thumbsup
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I think there is a positive out of all this speculation and that is, the LEAKS appear to have dried up at the club. :thumbsup
dont think so ;D
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I think there is a positive out of all this speculation and that is, the LEAKS appear to have dried up at the club. :thumbsup
dont think so ;D
The current "leaks" certainly appear to be more speculative and often wrong
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Does anyone reckon that Age comes into this? Hinkley I think would be almost mid 40s now and Hardwick late 30s.
Hinkley turns 43 in September.
Hardwick turns 37 today. :birthday
Richardson turned 44 in May.
7 years covers them - I can't see age playing too much part in this Ramps.
For interest:
Clarkson turned 41 this year - was 36 when appointed.
Thompson turns 46 this year - was 38 when appointed.
Ratten turned 37 this year - was 35 when appointed.
Lyon turns 43 this year - was 40 when appointed.
Williams turns 51 on Friday - was 41 when appointed.
Worsfold turns 41 this year - was 34 when appointed.
Roos turned 46 this year - was 39 when appointed.
Eade turned 51 this year - was 38 when first appointed.
Craig turned 53 this year - was 49 when appointed.
Malthouse turned 56 yesterday - was 31 when first appointed.
Knights turns 39 this year - was 38 when appointed.
Harvey turned 44 this year - was 43 when appointed.
Bailey turned 42 this year - was 41 when appointed.
Voss turned 34 this year - was 34 when appointed.
Scott turned 33 this year.
I wouldnt think so either some premiership coaches were in there late 30s when appointed. Its more who the players could relate to more not that that matters. Ultimately the coach has to drive these players as hard as possible.
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Let me get this straight
All tiger forums have people 'in the know' saying its down to Hardwick + Hinkley.
Quarterbrain says the same.
Caro has been saying Richardson is favourite for the last few days.
Who else?
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Let me get this straight
All tiger forums have people 'in the know' saying its down to Hardwick + Hinkley.
Quarterbrain says the same.
Caro has been saying Richardson is favourite for the last few days.
Who else?
the only person who doesnt have a rumour is jim boogy.
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Let me get this straight
All tiger forums have people 'in the know' saying its down to Hardwick + Hinkley.
Quarterbrain says the same.
Caro has been saying Richardson is favourite for the last few days.
Who else?
in recent times I reckon caro must be on the sauce as opposed to using one...she's been wide of the mark and last night everyone in melbourne knew rawlo had an interview except her with comments Hinkley was up...I'd be cautious about reading too much into any reports at the minute
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The interesting angle is when it officially gets to 2 candidates. When will that become known? And the day/days they are presenting to the board.
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The interesting angle is when it officially gets to 2 candidates. When will that become known? And the day/days they are presenting to the board.
Yeah, they might not be able to split them after 2 rounds and decide to put them all up before the board.
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The interesting angle is when it officially gets to 2 candidates. When will that become known? And the day/days they are presenting to the board.
Yeah, they might not be able to split them after 2 rounds and decide to put them all up before the board.
March said that the sub-comittee will have a much greater say than the board. Given that they'll have spoken to them at least twice each previously. I'd be surprised and lose a lot of faith in our process if they couldn't get it down to 2 for the board smokey.
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Itll be interesting to see how it works out. If Cameron and co. have a clear favorite they will send him to the board- and they will send Jade as the second candidate. Top strategy for making sure you get the candidate you want. So it may be that the 2nd best candidate doesnt make it to the board for a presentation. :-\
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Hardwick is a wanker.
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Hardwick is a wanker.
Care to elaborate....
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Hardwick is a wanker.
That's one way of getting a hard wick. :shh
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Hardwick is a wanker.
Care to elaborate....
I will spew if this Essendon **** coaches Richmond.
Edited for avoiding swear filter - reminder the "C" word in any form is totally unaccpetable
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Hardwick is a wanker.
Care to elaborate....
I will spew if this Essendon **** coaches Richmond.
Hardwick has a winners mentality and Richmond needs a coach who can bring a winning mentality to the table.
Edited to amend quote - swear filter avoidance
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LOL, lets slag the coach no matter who he is.
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Hardwick is a wanker.
Care to elaborate....
I will spew if this Essendon **** coaches Richmond.
So who would you like bent-one?
:bow
Edited to correct quote due to avoidance of the swear filter
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LOL, lets slag the coach no matter who he is.
Well we are Richmond supporters Camboon, I give him two weeks into the NAB Cup if I dont see wins and big ones at that I will crucify the bugger. ;D
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Hardwick is a wanker.
Nearly agree, and thats why he has missed out of the other positions he has gone for.
Hinkley or Richardson for me
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Hardwick is a wanker.
Nearly agree, and thats why he has missed out of the other positions he has gone for.
Wanking during the interviews?
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Dont care if he is a w@nker
Dont care if he is a cross dresser
Dont care if he is the devil himself
Just want someone who can lead us to the promised land. :gotigers
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If I was a betting man, which I am, my money is now on Richardson..
Placings will be Richardson from Hinkley
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If I was a betting man, which I am, my money is now on Richardson..
Placings will be Richardson from Hinkley
Agreed, I think Richardson is the frontrunner and will win the job. Will be a great choice too
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I would be content with Hinkley.
Do not know much about Richardson but he has a good name so he would also do.
Hardwick I will be sick. I like Rawlings but after that abortion on the weekend he has no chance.
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Richardson is fantastic with young players - that's what I mean when I talk about the right fit for this club. Richardson has a proven track record in the development area...
I could live (just ;D) with Richardson
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I would be content with Hinkley.
Do not know much about Richardson but he has a good name so he would also do.
Hardwick I will be sick. I like Rawlings but after that abortion on the weekend he has no chance.
So you think Hardwick is a wanker so don't want him, but you think Richardson has a good name so you'd be happy with him?
My god am I glad you don't get a vote
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Richardson is fantastic with young players - that's what I mean when I talk about the right fit for this club. Richardson has a proven track record in the development area...
I could live (just ;D) with Richardson
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/mr-motivation/2009/07/31/1248977194387.html
So could I.
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Caro repeated tonight that Hinkley was interviewed either last night or late yesterday arvo. She also said she doesn't know who the new coach will be.
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LOL, lets slag the coach no matter who he is.
Well when we are all being truthful and not taking the pee its fair to say that all the candidates are underwhelming from a pr point of view. So I agree whoever gets it, if they dont start winning early games, we should all jump on and start the rot again in trying to get them the arse :lol
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Half the reason Wallace was appointed was from the PR point of view and look where that got us
We are stable enough financially we don't need our new coach to sell the club, we just need development and turnover of the list plus lots of wins. PR is irrelevant.
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Half the reason Wallace was appointed was from the PR point of view and look where that got us
We are stable enough financially we don't need our new coach to sell the club, we just need development and turnover of the list plus lots of wins. PR is irrelevant.
before development needs to come hard nosed decision making and embarking on changing club culture to rid the place of the cancer that exists. All the development in the world wont help us if the club cant come together and go in the same direction, united and focussed on ultimate success.
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All the development in the world wont help us if the club cant come together and go in the same direction, united and focussed on ultimate success.
Aint that the truth.... that could be post of the year Ramps :thumbsup ;D
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All the development in the world wont help us if the club cant come together and go in the same direction, united and focussed on ultimate success.
Aint that the truth.... that could be post of the year Ramps :thumbsup ;D
Just trying my best to lift the standard of crap that I usually post in here WP ;D
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All the development in the world wont help us if the club cant come together and go in the same direction, united and focussed on ultimate success.
Aint that the truth.... that could be post of the year Ramps :thumbsup ;D
Just trying my best to lift the standard of crap that I usually post in here WP ;D
:clapping :clapping Well done
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All the development in the world wont help us if the club cant come together and go in the same direction, united and focussed on ultimate success.
Aint that the truth.... that could be post of the year Ramps :thumbsup ;D
Just trying my best to lift the standard of crap that I usually post in here WP ;D
well you have my support, it's a welcome change :thumbsup
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I would be content with Hinkley.
Do not know much about Richardson but he has a good name so he would also do.
Hardwick I will be sick. I like Rawlings but after that abortion on the weekend he has no chance.
So you think Hardwick is a wanker so don't want him, but you think Richardson has a good name so you'd be happy with him?
My god am I glad you don't get a vote
I do not want Hardwick based on
i - disliking his club
ii - disliking him as a player
would prefer almost anyone else.
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All the development in the world wont help us if the club cant come together and go in the same direction, united and focussed on ultimate success.
Aint that the truth.... that could be post of the year Ramps :thumbsup ;D
Just trying my best to lift the standard of crap that I usually post in here WP ;D
well you have my support, it's a welcome change :thumbsup
thanx for the support :D greatly appreciate it :help
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I would be content with Hinkley.
Do not know much about Richardson but he has a good name so he would also do.
Hardwick I will be sick. I like Rawlings but after that abortion on the weekend he has no chance.
So you think Hardwick is a wanker so don't want him, but you think Richardson has a good name so you'd be happy with him?
My god am I glad you don't get a vote
I do not want Hardwick based on
i - disliking his club
ii - disliking him as a player
would prefer almost anyone else.
So nothing to do with his coaching ability then? :-\
Given I hate all 15 other clubs and their players, that would leave very few candidates if we were ruling them out on that basis.
The fact we have to face is that most of the other clubs have been doing it better than we have for quarter of a century, so we need to get someone who knows success in to fix the joint.
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Quite interesting this talk of culture and hunger and playing for each other.
Sheeds seemed to build a great winning culture at Essendon yet he was unwanted. Could have done a very good 2-3 year stint for us IMHO. A modern day Len Smith.
Maybe if we were just starting our process now we would have dealt with the Sheedy situation differently.
For me Richardson is still no 1. I think he's the closest thing to a walk up senior coach out of the three of them.
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Sheeds seemed to build a great winning culture at Essendon yet he was unwanted. Could have done a very good 2-3 year stint for us IMHO. A modern day Len Smith.
Yeah, and the last time he managed that was 10 years ago.
The 00s were very much failure for Sheeds.
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Jackstar, if we pick Richardson, you are going to have a feild day for the next three years on this board, you will be in your element in laying bare the incompetence of our process and those that constituted it. Employing Richardson will be a disaster, he has NO track record of developing youngsters and he definetly has NO track record of doing it with any players affiliated with our club. No body has for 30 years, were the hell are they? We need a tough uncompromising bastard to take charge and god he might not even make it.
Hardwick or Hinkley is what we need IF we are going for youth.
I don't care if Hadwick is a idiot, an hole, a wanker, a prick or even a stuffing martian. As long as he is an uncompromising hardarsed bastard, wanker I will be happy because he will give us half a chance which is a better chance than we have had for 30 years.
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Rodger, what do you mean Richardson has no track record of developing youngsters?
That's his greatest strength
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I would be content with Hinkley.
Do not know much about Richardson but he has a good name so he would also do.
Hardwick I will be sick. I like Rawlings but after that abortion on the weekend he has no chance.
So you think Hardwick is a wanker so don't want him, but you think Richardson has a good name so you'd be happy with him?
My god am I glad you don't get a vote
I do not want Hardwick based on
i - disliking his club
ii - disliking him as a player
would prefer almost anyone else.
So nothing to do with his coaching ability then? :-\
Given I hate all 15 other clubs and their players, that would leave very few candidates if we were ruling them out on that basis.
The fact we have to face is that most of the other clubs have been doing it better than we have for quarter of a century, so we need to get someone who knows success in to fix the joint.
I very much doubt Hardwick has coaching abity.
Why was he overlooked 3 times already
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Rodger, what do you mean Richardson has no track record of developing youngsters?
That's his greatest strength
He doesn't, I can see that there is this "perception" that he does have this supposed "strength" but he has no results. Who are these great youngsters that he has developed? It's an illusion, it's based on heresay. there is no results.
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You mean the Collingwood Youth Academy he developed?
or the work he's done with Essendon's youngsters?
Yeah, crap track record there
The worst thing was when he was coaching at Coburg he was starting to build the youth academy idea here until he was poached/pushed out
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You mean the Collingwood Youth Academy he developed?
or the work he's done with Essendon's youngsters?
Yeah, crap track record there
The worst thing was when he was coaching at Coburg he was starting to build the youth academy idea here until he was poached/pushed out
No results infamy, Frawley could have put the youth academy together its an administrative function.
Whats Essendon done? Nothing. He has no products, its all "what ifs", "could have beens" and "looks like it could be".
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You mean the Collingwood Youth Academy he developed?
or the work he's done with Essendon's youngsters?
Yeah, crap track record there
The worst thing was when he was coaching at Coburg he was starting to build the youth academy idea here until he was poached/pushed out
No results infamy, Frawley could have put the youth academy together its an administrative function.
Whats Essendon done? Nothing. He has no products, its all "what ifs", "could have beens" and "looks like it could be".
Talk about marking hard. And blindly.
I think Richardson went to Essendon just last year, so he's had under 12 months developing kids at a place that was seen as certainties for bottom 4. They're 8th right now.
I'd also like to hear all about your knowledge of the youth academy of you regard it as simply an "administrative function."
He also, due to developing the youth academy, had a hand in developing Collingwood's youth into the base of what we see today, which is a top 4 side from a group of players who probably shouldn't be.
Sure you can say I'm "looks like it could be"-ing but explain to me how else we can interpret it, unless we employ a purely cynical approach like yourself?
Hinkley has been involved in a highly successful club for 3 years. Is that in any way due to him? "Looks like it could be".
Hardwick has hard success follow him. "what if" its just luck.
And round and round in circles we could go.
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Sometimes you have to open your eyes and have a look at what is really there not what you want or are hoping to see.
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I think Richardson went to Essendon just last year, so he's had under 12 months developing kids at a place that was seen as certainties for bottom 4. They're 8th right now.
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This is why I don't rate Richardson. Why would he be leaving Essendon so soon? Does he think his work there is done?
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This is why I don't rate Richardson. Why would he be leaving Essendon so soon? Does he think his work there is done?
For the huge promotion. Development Coach to Senior Coach. Anyone with senior coaching ambitions would grasp a suitable opportunity and he obviously thinks Richmond is a suitable opportunity. That's why you never hear a senior coach talk down the ambitions of his assistants, even though it means potentially losing a good person. They are all ambitious creatures by nature.
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For the huge promotion. Development Coach to Senior Coach. Anyone with senior coaching ambitions would grasp a suitable opportunity and he obviously thinks Richmond is a suitable opportunity. That's why you never hear a senior coach talk down the ambitions of his assistants, even though it means potentially losing a good person. They are all ambitious creatures by nature.
Spot on smokey.
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This is why I don't rate Richardson. Why would he be leaving Essendon so soon? Does he think his work there is done?
For the huge promotion. Development Coach to Senior Coach. Anyone with senior coaching ambitions would grasp a suitable opportunity and he obviously thinks Richmond is a suitable opportunity. That's why you never hear a senior coach talk down the ambitions of his assistants, even though it means potentially losing a good person. They are all ambitious creatures by nature.
sure, why wouldn't you apply.
i guess what i really mean is perhaps he needs more time where he is now before anyone can really make a call on whether he is being effective in the role.
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before development needs to come hard nosed decision making and embarking on changing club culture to rid the place of the cancer that exists. All the development in the world wont help us if the club cant come together and go in the same direction, united and focussed on ultimate success.
Glad to see you've finally come around. :clapping
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This is why I don't rate Richardson. Why would he be leaving Essendon so soon? Does he think his work there is done?
For the huge promotion. Development Coach to Senior Coach. Anyone with senior coaching ambitions would grasp a suitable opportunity and he obviously thinks Richmond is a suitable opportunity. That's why you never hear a senior coach talk down the ambitions of his assistants, even though it means potentially losing a good person. They are all ambitious creatures by nature.
sure, why wouldn't you apply.
i guess what i really mean is perhaps he needs more time where he is now before anyone can really make a call on whether he is being effective in the role.
You do realise he did the same role at Collingwood with good results and prior to that proved he can be a senior coach by leading a club to a couple of Premierships?
Regardless, the six hours of interviews aren't for poos and giggles. Whatever decision the RFC makes will be for reasons far over yours and my head and because of how he fits the role because of all those aspects AND more of what he can deliver.
Just let the club do their job, since it's actually a solid process for a change.
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Just let the club do their job, since it's actually a solid process for a change.
so far so good, tigersalive. :thumbsup
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Just let the club do their job, since it's actually a solid process for a change.
Unfortunately that means me doing my job and getting some work done. I'd much rather pick the bones out of candidates I know very little about.
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Leaning more and more towards Hinkley the more I hear.
Bomber Thompson on SEN said he would keep him for the finals even if he got the gig, because he is valued so much. Would leave a big hole for them if he was to leave.
Hardwick seems to be a bit of a smarbehind perc
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Well Wallace thinks Hinkley may get the gig as he's a calm person. Hopefully that doesn't turn people off Ken on here ;D.
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Well Wallace thinks Hinkley may get the gig as he's a calm person. Hopefully that doesn't turn people off Ken on here ;D.
Right then.
HINKLEY
;D
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Hinkley, Hardwick last two for Tigers
Greg Denham | August 22, 2009
RICHMOND'S senior coaching short list was narrowed to two candidates yesterday with Hawthorn assistant Damien Hardwick and Geelong assistant Ken Hinkley set to front the Tigers board next week.
Essendon assistant Alan Richardson, who had support from several within the Richmond sub-committee to appoint the new coach, missed out, as did caretaker coach Jade Rawlings.
Rawlings, like North Melbourne's Darren Crocker, will coach out the final two rounds this season in the knowledge he will not be the Tigers full-time senior coach replacement for Terry Wallace, who resigned in June after 4 1/2 years. Rawlings, who is under contract at Richmond next year, is expected to remain as an assistant coach.
After a four-hour meeting with Hinkley on Thursday night, the Tigers' eight-man coaching panel slept on their decisions before voting yesterday morning on their final candidates. It is believed that the low-profile Hinkley surprised several on the panel with his presentation, but Hardwick remains firmly in the mix.
As one senior Richmond source commented yesterday: "There's not a lot in it. We believe we have two excellent candidates to separate."
During the second-interview stage with the four candidates, Richmond's panel consisted of general manager of football operations Craig Cameron, club psychologist Jeff Bond, former players Greg Stafford and Emmett Dunne, president Gary March and directors Tony Free, Rob Dalton and Don Lord.
New chief executive Brendon Gale, who starts with the club on Monday, was an observer at all four interviews.
Hinkley and Hardwick will each front the Tigers nine-member board for about an hour next week for assessment, before all directors will receive the recommendation from the coaching sub-committee.
It will be the fourth time Hardwick has won his way to the final two candidates at clubs, having missed the senior job at Essendon (Matthew Knights) and Melbourne (Dean Bailey) almost two years ago, before being piped by Brad Scott at North Melbourne last week.
Should Hinkley get the job, at his first serious attempt, he has told Geelong he would be willing to stay on during the Cats' finals campaign, a position which has also been agreed on by coach Mark Thompson.
It is known that Hardwick's preference is to be given the Richmond position over a role at Port Adelaide, which has presented him with a succession plan to replace long-standing coach Mark Williams. The Power first interviewed its 2004 premiership player two weeks ago about the proposition, but this week upped the ante considerably.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25962868-5013406,00.html
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Two left for job at Tigers
Caroline Wilson | August 22, 2009
RICHMOND'S caretaker coach Jade Rawlings will go into tonight's clash with Hawthorn knowing he is coaching the Tigers for the second-last time.
Rawlings, along with Essendon assistant Alan Richardson, were told yesterday that they were no longer candidates for the Richmond senior position with Damien Hardwick and Ken Hinkley expected to make their final pitches to the Tigers board next Wednesday.
Hinkley, whom the Cats want to retain until the end of their finals campaign should he win the Richmond coaching job, presented on Thursday night to a panel headed by Tigers president Gary March, football boss Craig Cameron and former players Emmett Dunne and Greg Stafford.
Hardwick has indicated he will not make a final decision about his unusual offer from Port Adelaide until he has completed his final presentation at Richmond.
The bizarre situation at Alberton continued to unfold yesterday with senior coach Mark Williams only adding to the intrigue regarding his security at that club when he said that any succession plan ''is for the club to announce or proclaim, it has got nothing to do with me''.
Asked whether he liked the idea of a succession plan for the Power, Williams said the idea ''has merit'', adding he believed he had the support of the Port hierarchy.Williams confirmed he had spoken with Hardwick on Tuesday.
The 37-year-old Hawthorn assistant is understood to have been virtually guaranteed the Port Adelaide senior coaching position for three years from 2012 and has been offered the role of senior assistant from next year in an offer extending the next five years.
Richmond's new CEO Brendon Gale was an observer at the two-and-a-half-hour Hinkley session two nights ago as he has been at all four second-stage interviews.
At a 90-minute meeting after Hinkley's presentation, the former Cat and Hardwick were chosen as the final two candidates. The successful applicant of those two looks certain to be offered a three-year contract with a decision to follow closely after the board presentations.
Cameron, who has overseen the coaching search, is expected to make his recommendation to the board after the presentations.
The 31-year-old Rawlings was told yesterday he had been culled from the list of four who had made it through to the second stage of the Tigers' lengthy procedure launched in June following Terry Wallace's departure.
He remains contracted to the club until the end of 2010 and the Tigers remained hopeful Rawlings would remain next season. He had been coaching Coburg until Wallace's sacking.
Like Richardson, he was a first-time senior coaching applicant and was encouraged to continue his ambition by the Tigers' hierarchy.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/two-left-for-rawlings-at-tigers/2009/08/21/1250362215210.html
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Anthony Hudson on SEN reckons March favours Hardwick because of his record - twice premiership player and then another flag at the Hawks under Clarkson. Dermie thinks Hardwick would be favourite because Richmond would want to build a side that resembles the hard tough successful footy sides of days gone by. Hardwick has that aura about him that Hinkley doesn't even though Dermie said he could listen for hours to Hinkley talk about footy.
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Got to hand it to march and co...got this one right....no bloody leaks
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I'm impressed by the process which has left us with two excellent potential coaches. No leaks and kept the media guessing from the start. We have stuck by our timeline and have come away from it all looking vey professional. Now I just hope we get a coach who can make a difference to our future.
Stripes
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Yep great stuff Tigers bloody professional job for a change, either candidate will do me fine, I am leaning towards Hardwick but not too fussed.
Lets see all the knockers bag us now for sticking to the process without faltering. Gee I wonder if pricks like Shaw will congratulate us for sticking to our guns........ yeah right.... :whistle ::)
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History proves that Defence wins Premierships and because of that Im tipping that Hardwick will be able to better introduce a game plan which incorporates hard tough defensive footy, controlled aggression, improvement in 1%ers, and a team first orientation - Its a system where you dont need name players but players who can do a job- ala St Kilda, Collingwood, Hawthorn.
Tonight Hawthorn flogged us with half a side because they play this type of footy.
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Hardwick tipped for Richmond job
Cameron Noakes | August 23, 2009
RICHMOND Football Club is expected to offer Hawthorn assistant Damien Hardwick its senior coaching job this week, according to former club great and radio host Kevin Bartlett.
Hardwick is now the bookies' favourite to be offered the position, despite rumours last week that Geelong assistant Ken Hinkley was in the box seat. Hinkley was backed into favouritism with bookmaker Sportingbet Australia, but Richmond officials were apparently bemused by the speculation and unsure why or what punters had heard to presume Hinkley would secure the job.
Bartlett said yesterday he understood Hardwick was currently the favourite to take the reins at Tigerland in 2010.
"I understand it is a photo finish … and Damien Hardwick's head has just bobbed up into the frame," Bartlett said.
He said there were rumours that the Richmond committee had already voted and Hardwick was the unanimous choice, but "it is not as clearcut as that". "It's a bob of the head and Hardwick is in the picture," he said.
Betstar's Alan Eskander, who has been running a market on the position, said he understood the successful candidate would be revealed tomorrow, however Richmond president Gary March said that was not likely and would not indicate when the decision would be announced.
The Betstar market was taken down over the weekend, but prior to that Hardwick was at $2.55 and the "any other person option" [Hinkley is in this market] was at $1.70.
"We took the market down because we were worried some people might already know the result," Eskander said.
Meanwhile, North Melbourne president James Brayshaw denied suggestions Hardwick was not given a fair hearing when he was interviewed for his club's senior coaching position.
Brayshaw confirmed that he did not meet with Hardwick, but said he had never intended to and it was the job of the selection panel to conduct the interview.
"The fact that I didn't meet with him is totally and utterly irrelevant," Brayshaw said.
The Sunday Age understands that Hardwick - who was overlooked for the job - was not entirely happy with the interview, which went for only an hour.
It is believed Hardwick was surprised that the process was not more in-depth and that the selection panel did not ask him to present a game plan.
Brayshaw, speaking on Triple M, said he was not privy to what was discussed at the interview, but believed the panel considered Hardwick "an extraordinarily good" candidate.
"I don't know how long the interview went for, [but] it was definitely more than an hour," Brayshaw said.
"I understand [the interview] was comprehensive [and] I understand Hardwick's presentation was extraordinarily good.
"I don't know how his personality came across [during the interview because] … I was not privy to it. But Brad Scott was by far and away the best fit for our club at the moment."
Since then, Hardwick has spoken to Port Adelaide about an assistant coaching position that is expected to lead to a senior coaching role when current coach Mark Williams' contact expires at the end of 2011.
March congratulated caretaker coach Jade Rawlings at last night's pre-match function, saying he had made an outstanding presentation to the selection committee.
''It was a really hard decision to say to Jade he wasn't successful, but I've got no doubt Jade Rawlings, at age 31, will be a senior coach of AFL football.''
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/hardwick-tipped-for-richmond-job/2009/08/22/1250362259761.html
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Richmond job is down to two
Glenn McFarlane and Craig Hutchison | August 23, 2009
JADE Rawlings admitted he is unlikely to be at Punt Rd as an assistant coach next season despite being contracted after being overlooked for the Richmond coaching job.
Rawlings joked that he felt like he wanted to "kill" football director Craig Cameron when he delivered the bad news that the Tigers job was officially down to two candidates, Damien Hardwick and Ken Hinkley.
"I am contracted with the club, there is a fair bit of water to go under the bridge in terms of who gets appointed," Rawlings said after the Tigers' 42-point loss to Hawthorn.
"I personally think it will be hard for whoever gets appointed to have me around because of my passion for the job and my attachment to this group.
''Someone may think I have some sort of worth but that will work itself out I'm sure.
''I wanted to kill him (Cameron) when he first told me. Have a look at him, he thinks it's funny.
"I was genuinely disappointed, and Craig and I have a terrific relationship and he has supported me right throughout his time at the club and in particular this period but after the initial disappointment there was a bit of anger but the positives to come out of the opportunity have no end."
Rawlings said he still harboured ambitions to become a senior coach, saying the experience of coaching Richmond for 11 games would be invaluable.
The Tigers have asked both Hardwick and Hinkley to front the board as the coaching battle moves to its last stage.
The two will need to jump through one more hoop before a decision is made later this week.
Insiders say there is little between the two.
The Tigers told Rawlings and Bomber assistant Alan Richardson of the move late on Friday.
Hardwick has a contingency plan with Port offering him the right to succeed Mark Williams. He flew to Adelaide to meet Port Adelaide officials last week. But his preferred option is to coach now.
The Tigers have asked both to front the board as the coaching battle moves to its last stage.
The two will need to jump through one more hoop before a decision is made later this week.
Insiders say there is little between the two.
The Tigers told caretaker coach Jade Rawlings and Bomber assistant Alan Richardson of the move late on Friday.
Richardson told the Sunday Herald Sun yesterday from Perth: "It's disappointing that I have missed on this opportunity but I'm very fortunate how bright the position and situation is as Essendon.
"I would like to thank the Tigers for the opportunity to present my thoughts and ideals.
"I just thought it was an incredibly professional process and very impressive."
Hardwick has a contingency plan with Port offering him the right to succeed Mark Williams.
He flew to Adelaide to meet Port Adelaide officials last week. But his preferred option is to coach now.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25968027-19742,00.html
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Can confirm this.
Ken Hinkley has told Brian Cook at Geelong yesterday that RFC is going to offer the position to Hardwick.
Its up to Hardwick to accept the position it seems.
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They havent even fronted the board yet J. how is this rumour possibly true?
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They havent even fronted the board yet J. how is this rumour possibly true?
Mate, only tell you what I have been told from Geelong.
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Fair enough jacko.
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Bascially from Brian Cook himself. ;)
Would think that there is a bit of cat and mouse.
If Hardwick goes to Port etc etc.
He will be offered the Richmond job though, interesting
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Bascially from Brian Cook himself. ;)
Would think that there is a bit of cat and mouse.
If Hardwick goes to Port etc etc.
He will be offered the Richmond job though, interesting
Not doubting your info Jackstar, but it would be interesting to know if thats Ken Hinkley's opinion or that RFC has indicated as such directly.
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Bascially from Brian Cook himself. ;)
Would think that there is a bit of cat and mouse.
If Hardwick goes to Port etc etc.
He will be offered the Richmond job though, interesting
Not doubting your info Jackstar, but it would be interesting to know if thats Ken Hinkley's opinion or that RFC has indicated as such directly.
Ken told Geelong .
Interesting that there might be issues at Port, thus Richmond are having both present to the board next week.
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Why would the club tell one candidate that they would be offering to the other?
Wouldn't they wait until Hardwick had accepted before informing Hinkley?
What if Hardwick didn't accept?
Makes no sense
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Bascially from Brian Cook himself. ;)
Would think that there is a bit of cat and mouse.
If Hardwick goes to Port etc etc.
He will be offered the Richmond job though, interesting
Not doubting your info Jackstar, but it would be interesting to know if thats Ken Hinkley's opinion or that RFC has indicated as such directly.
Ken told Geelong .
Interesting that there might be issues at Port, thus Richmond are having both present to the board next week.
As in Choco getting the kick sooner than first thought?
Not with their finances surely but they were crazy to re-sign him midway through a just okay season. And since he re-signed they've turned far worse.
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I wonder if people tell you stuff because they know you leek like a sieve.
"I'd like people to know such and such. It's not true but I'd like people to know. I know I'll just tell JJ".
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I wonder if people tell you stuff because they know you leek like a sieve.
"I'd like people to know such and such. It's not true but I'd like people to know. I know I'll just tell JJ".
Was thinking exactly the same thing
Jack is a useful "tool" if they want to get something out there lol
I don't doubt Jack's info - never have - but if I had something I wanted to spread, I know who I would go to first ;)
:rollin
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Why would the club tell one candidate that they would be offering to the other?
Wouldn't they wait until Hardwick had accepted before informing Hinkley?
What if Hardwick didn't accept?
Makes no sense
Only reason would be that the club is up front with both.?
Bad vibes out of Port, might make things interesting
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I wonder if people tell you stuff because they know you leek like a sieve.
"I'd like people to know such and such. It's not true but I'd like people to know. I know I'll just tell JJ".
Its actually common knowledge in Footy Circles, I am last to know actually ;)
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Can confirm this.
Ken Hinkley has told Brian Cook at Geelong yesterday that RFC is going to offer the position to Hardwick.
Its up to Hardwick to accept the position it seems.
if that is the case, then I expect that Hardwick will accept, reason being if the PA role was attractive, he would have nailed it earlier...he knows enough of Punt rd to make an objective call if it's offered. If what you say is true...Hardwick is our man
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Hardwick tipped for Richmond jobCameron Noakes | August 23, 2009
RICHMOND Football Club is expected to offer Hawthorn assistant Damien Hardwick its senior coaching job this week, according to former club great and radio host Kevin Bartlett.
Hardwick is now the bookies' favourite to be offered the position, despite rumours last week that Geelong assistant Ken Hinkley was in the box seat. Hinkley was backed into favouritism with bookmaker Sportingbet Australia, but Richmond officials were apparently bemused by the speculation and unsure why or what punters had heard to presume Hinkley would secure the job.
Bartlett said yesterday he understood Hardwick was currently the favourite to take the reins at Tigerland in 2010.
"I understand it is a photo finish … and Damien Hardwick's head has just bobbed up into the frame," Bartlett said.
He said there were rumours that the Richmond committee had already voted and Hardwick was the unanimous choice, but "it is not as clearcut as that". "It's a bob of the head and Hardwick is in the picture," he said.
Betstar's Alan Eskander, who has been running a market on the position, said he understood the successful candidate would be revealed tomorrow, however Richmond president Gary March said that was not likely and would not indicate when the decision would be announced.
The Betstar market was taken down over the weekend, but prior to that Hardwick was at $2.55 and the "any other person option" [Hinkley is in this market] was at $1.70.
"We took the market down because we were worried some people might already know the result," Eskander said.
Meanwhile, North Melbourne president James Brayshaw denied suggestions Hardwick was not given a fair hearing when he was interviewed for his club's senior coaching position.
Brayshaw confirmed that he did not meet with Hardwick, but said he had never intended to and it was the job of the selection panel to conduct the interview.
"The fact that I didn't meet with him is totally and utterly irrelevant," Brayshaw said.
The Sunday Age understands that Hardwick - who was overlooked for the job - was not entirely happy with the interview, which went for only an hour.
It is believed Hardwick was surprised that the process was not more in-depth and that the selection panel did not ask him to present a game plan.
Brayshaw, speaking on Triple M, said he was not privy to what was discussed at the interview, but believed the panel considered Hardwick "an extraordinarily good" candidate.
"I don't know how long the interview went for, [but] it was definitely more than an hour," Brayshaw said.
"I understand [the interview] was comprehensive [and] I understand Hardwick's presentation was extraordinarily good.
"I don't know how his personality came across [during the interview because] … I was not privy to it. But Brad Scott was by far and away the best fit for our club at the moment."
Since then, Hardwick has spoken to Port Adelaide about an assistant coaching position that is expected to lead to a senior coaching role when current coach Mark Williams' contact expires at the end of 2011.
March congratulated caretaker coach Jade Rawlings at last night's pre-match function, saying he had made an outstanding presentation to the selection committee.
''It was a really hard decision to say to Jade he wasn't successful, but I've got no doubt Jade Rawlings, at age 31, will be a senior coach of AFL football.''
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/hardwick-tipped-for-richmond-job/2009/08/22/1250362259761.html
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Freezer was on TAC Cup stars with son Josh just before. Freezer said there'll be an announcement midweek and confirmed it's down to Hardwick and Hinkley. MMM saying they are having their final interviews today.
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Freezer was on TAC Cup stars with son Josh just before. Freezer said there'll be an announcement midweek and confirmed it's down to Hardwick and Hinkley. MMM saying they are having their final interviews today.
whats the latest on freezer jun, I notice he's continuing to be prominent amongst the best on a regular basis ???
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Freezer was on TAC Cup stars with son Josh just before. Freezer said there'll be an announcement midweek and confirmed it's down to Hardwick and Hinkley. MMM saying they are having their final interviews today.
whats the latest on freezer jun, I notice he's continuing to be prominent amongst the best on a regular basis ???
I've bumped up the F/S thread for you BJ :).
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Well BT and Healy during half-time of the Freo-Essendon game say it's Hardwick. Only a guess but BT did guess right that Scott would be coaching North.
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The media might as well have a guess. It's a 50/50 chance of being right ::).
The Club has done an amazing job keeping this in house for once.
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The media might as well have a guess. It's a 50/50 chance of being right ::).
The Club has done an amazing job keeping this in house for once.
Hardwick. ;)
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The media might as well have a guess. It's a 50/50 chance of being right ::).
The Club has done an amazing job keeping this in house for once.
Hardwick. ;)
Ramps is gonnna have one horny chubby!!!!!
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Hardwick. ;)
Well quiet until a few days out from the offical announcement lol.
Good luck to Hardwick if he is the one. He's going to need it. I just hope we don't have the same olds calling for his head midway through next year because he's not an instant miracle maker.
If it is Hardwick I wonder if he'll copy Clarkson and try and bring a number of staff over with him from Hawthorn. He'll also have to bring 3 new assistants at least to the Club with Royal, King and most likely Rawlings leaving.
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Hardwick. ;)
Well quiet until a few days out from the offical announcement lol.
Good luck to Hardwick if he is the one. He's going to need it. I just hope we don't have the same olds calling for his head midway through next year because he's not an instant miracle maker.
If it is Hardwick I wonder if he'll copy Clarkson and try and bring a number of staff over with him from Hawthorn. He'll also have to bring 3 new assistants at least to the Club with Royal, King and most likely Rawlings leaving.
I think Sugar is getting a gig next year
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The media might as well have a guess. It's a 50/50 chance of being right ::).
The Club has done an amazing job keeping this in house for once.
Hardwick. ;)
Ramps is gonnna have one horny chubby!!!!!
Its the correct decision but if he does what every other coach has done for the last 20 years then hes coaching career will be over before it starts. Hardwicks only chance for success at Richmond is to trade as heavily as he can, delist as many as he can, bring in new fitness and conditioning staff as well as some assistant coaches, he needs to impact right from the start, he needs to go with a new game plan which revolves around hard, direct footy where 1%ers, blocks, sheppards and tackles are the core things required.
If he doesnt do these things- ALL of them- he will FAIL. And I will be one of the people looking for him to get the boot. Richmond supporters just want to see the team do well. We are sick and tired of listening to crap and all the rest- If Hardwick does not deliver then he can end up on the scrapheap as well. The club and its success must always come first.
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I think Sugar is getting a gig next year
Yeah well did say when he retired they wanted to keep him on in a development role
Today he was one of the runners for Coburg and at times he seemed to coaching as well ;D
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The media might as well have a guess. It's a 50/50 chance of being right ::).
The Club has done an amazing job keeping this in house for once.
Hardwick. ;)
Ramps is gonnna have one horny chubby!!!!!
Its the correct decision but if he does what every other coach has done for the last 20 years then hes coaching career will be over before it starts. Hardwicks only chance for success at Richmond is to trade as heavily as he can, delist as many as he can, bring in new fitness and conditioning staff as well as some assistant coaches, he needs to impact right from the start, he needs to go with a new game plan which revolves around hard, direct footy where 1%ers, blocks, sheppards and tackles are the core things required.
If he doesnt do these things- ALL of them- he will FAIL. And I will be one of the people looking for him to get the boot. Richmond supporters just want to see the team do well. We are sick and tired of listening to crap and all the rest- If Hardwick does not deliver then he can end up on the scrapheap as well. The club and its success must always come first.
What he needs to do is not listen to all the so-called experts sprouting opinions like they know the answers.
FFS if you are so stuffing good why aren't you coaching Richmond?
:banghead
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Well BT and Healy during half-time of the Freo-Essendon game say it's Hardwick. Only a guess but BT did guess right that Scott would be coaching North.
Well I think the fac tthat BT was on the Sunday footy show with Brayshaw the Sunday B4 North's announcement may have had something to do with it :rollin
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Come on 1965 what are the answers?
After watching the fragility of our list this season and the distinct lack in many areas that's the minimum any new coach will need to do to at least ensure we are competitive in 2 -3 years time.
If a favourite player is in the cull so be it. The club is bigger than any individual. If the new coach says Richo is gawn I too will be disappointed as will many considering his last game would have been in Sydney but so be it. The long term future of the club is at stake.
I am so over this process just appoint the new coach and let him get to work on this list. He'll have my full support and can only hope that him and all the factions at the club can all move in the right direction to give him the support to put his plans in place.
2 finals campaigns in 27 years suggests that something has to change.
Lets just wait and see what the new coach will do before we judge him. If anything if the club had been in alot more than 2 finals series in 27 years you'd still find there would be alot of experts opinions suggesting which way the club should go but after 2 finals series in that time you'd think that something is very rotten at the club and its time to get rid of it.
If that makes me an expert then I would love to go to the club and coach them. Would you or any others sponsor me? If anything I will be the most controversial choice at any AFL club. Would that make you or any others happy? It would be the fullfilling of a dream of mine to be involved in the inner sanctum of RFC. At least noone on here could criticise me that I don't love the club regardless of results. :thumbsup
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Come on 1965 what are the answers?
After watching the fragility of our list this season and the distinct lack in many areas that's the minimum any new coach will need to do to at least ensure we are competitive in 2 -3 years time.
If a favourite player is in the cull so be it. The club is bigger than any individual. If the new coach says Richo is gawn I too will be disappointed as will many considering his last game would have been in Sydney but so be it. The long term future of the club is at stake.
I am so over this process just appoint the new coach and let him get to work on this list. He'll have my full support and can only hope that him and all the factions at the club can all move in the right direction to give him the support to put his plans in place.
2 finals campaigns in 27 years suggests that something has to change.
Lets just wait and see what the new coach will do before we judge him. If anything if the club had been in alot more than 2 finals series in 27 years you'd still find there would be alot of experts opinions suggesting which way the club should go but after 2 finals series in that time you'd think that something is very rotten at the club and its time to get rid of it.
If that makes me an expert then I would love to go to the club and coach them. Would you or any others sponsor me? If anything I will be the most controversial choice at any AFL club. Would that make you or any others happy? It would be the fullfilling of a dream of mine to be involved in the inner sanctum of RFC. At least noone on here could criticise me that I don't love the club regardless of results. :thumbsup
He was being critical of me and what I reckon needs to happen. The reality is that 90% of our supporters think the same way as I do on these things. Whats so wrong about wanting to see our club play a direct style of footy incorporating the hard things like tackles, blocks, sheppards etc. anyway ....
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Come on 1965 what are the answers?
After watching the fragility of our list this season and the distinct lack in many areas that's the minimum any new coach will need to do to at least ensure we are competitive in 2 -3 years time.
If a favourite player is in the cull so be it. The club is bigger than any individual. If the new coach says Richo is gawn I too will be disappointed as will many considering his last game would have been in Sydney but so be it. The long term future of the club is at stake.
I am so over this process just appoint the new coach and let him get to work on this list. He'll have my full support and can only hope that him and all the factions at the club can all move in the right direction to give him the support to put his plans in place.
2 finals campaigns in 27 years suggests that something has to change.
Lets just wait and see what the new coach will do before we judge him. If anything if the club had been in alot more than 2 finals series in 27 years you'd still find there would be alot of experts opinions suggesting which way the club should go but after 2 finals series in that time you'd think that something is very rotten at the club and its time to get rid of it.
If that makes me an expert then I would love to go to the club and coach them. Would you or any others sponsor me? If anything I will be the most controversial choice at any AFL club. Would that make you or any others happy? It would be the fullfilling of a dream of mine to be involved in the inner sanctum of RFC. At least noone on here could criticise me that I don't love the club regardless of results. :thumbsup
He was being critical of me and what I reckon needs to happen. The reality is that 90% of our supporters think the same way as I do on these things. Whats so wrong about wanting to see our club play a direct style of footy incorporating the hard things like tackles, blocks, sheppards etc. anyway ....
Well i guess im in the 10% lol
Seriously it seems we are already setting up the senior coach to fail. IMHO the coaches have had very little to do with our lack of success. It is a deeper issue than purely the coaching staff. it is about culture, and us fans are a part of that.
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Come on 1965 what are the answers?
After watching the fragility of our list this season and the distinct lack in many areas that's the minimum any new coach will need to do to at least ensure we are competitive in 2 -3 years time.
If a favourite player is in the cull so be it. The club is bigger than any individual. If the new coach says Richo is gawn I too will be disappointed as will many considering his last game would have been in Sydney but so be it. The long term future of the club is at stake.
I am so over this process just appoint the new coach and let him get to work on this list. He'll have my full support and can only hope that him and all the factions at the club can all move in the right direction to give him the support to put his plans in place.
2 finals campaigns in 27 years suggests that something has to change.
Lets just wait and see what the new coach will do before we judge him. If anything if the club had been in alot more than 2 finals series in 27 years you'd still find there would be alot of experts opinions suggesting which way the club should go but after 2 finals series in that time you'd think that something is very rotten at the club and its time to get rid of it.
If that makes me an expert then I would love to go to the club and coach them. Would you or any others sponsor me? If anything I will be the most controversial choice at any AFL club. Would that make you or any others happy? It would be the fullfilling of a dream of mine to be involved in the inner sanctum of RFC. At least noone on here could criticise me that I don't love the club regardless of results. :thumbsup
Involved in the inner sanctum, its not what you think. ::)
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Come on 1965 what are the answers?
After watching the fragility of our list this season and the distinct lack in many areas that's the minimum any new coach will need to do to at least ensure we are competitive in 2 -3 years time.
If a favourite player is in the cull so be it. The club is bigger than any individual. If the new coach says Richo is gawn I too will be disappointed as will many considering his last game would have been in Sydney but so be it. The long term future of the club is at stake.
I am so over this process just appoint the new coach and let him get to work on this list. He'll have my full support and can only hope that him and all the factions at the club can all move in the right direction to give him the support to put his plans in place.
2 finals campaigns in 27 years suggests that something has to change.
Lets just wait and see what the new coach will do before we judge him. If anything if the club had been in alot more than 2 finals series in 27 years you'd still find there would be alot of experts opinions suggesting which way the club should go but after 2 finals series in that time you'd think that something is very rotten at the club and its time to get rid of it.
If that makes me an expert then I would love to go to the club and coach them. Would you or any others sponsor me? If anything I will be the most controversial choice at any AFL club. Would that make you or any others happy? It would be the fullfilling of a dream of mine to be involved in the inner sanctum of RFC. At least noone on here could criticise me that I don't love the club regardless of results. :thumbsup
He was being critical of me and what I reckon needs to happen. The reality is that 90% of our supporters think the same way as I do on these things. Whats so wrong about wanting to see our club play a direct style of footy incorporating the hard things like tackles, blocks, sheppards etc. anyway ....
Well i guess im in the 10% lol
Seriously it seems we are already setting up the senior coach to fail. IMHO the coaches have had very little to do with our lack of success. It is a deeper issue than purely the coaching staff. it is about culture, and us fans are a part of that.
Go Richo=NFI
culture culture culture you crap on like an ex mrs that wont go away.
its about development and yes it is about the hard things the 1%.
watch how many tackles we lay during a game. actually better yet watch how many of those were effective tackles. Then go and watch the Pies and see how they gang tackle opponents to the ground fairly and squarely. A lot of our goals are due to players that refuse to lay defensive pressure, REFUSE!!
The players we have got are used to being wrapped up in cotton wool. They are weak minded and dont respond to weak people, that part i believe is culture. Our last 2 coaches TW and Spud hardly the type of coach that would inspire you to go out and lay 10 tackles.
Now you say its all about culture..Rubbish!!. How about the last 3 years giving away our 3rd rounder. No thats got nothing to do with it has it??
How about holding onto duds like Cogs, Patterson, Pettrified, Schulz till they are worth nothing. No thats got nothing to do with it?
How about the recruiting of Graham, Kingsley, Knobel while others picked up the likes of Eddie Betts, Callan Ward and S Sellwood.. No nothing to do with it?
How about having 1 development coach per player only in TW's 3rd year as coach. No thats got nothing to do with it?
Its not all about culture pal its about hardwork whicch these weak minded individuals refuse to do because they are not affraid and dont respect the coach.
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Cogs a dud? Now I've heard everything
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Cogs a dud? Now I've heard everything
Well , he is.
he couldnt kick over a jam tim before his knee injury, now he cant kick at all.
The RFC isnt a superannuation fund for footballers whose inspirations are greater than the true ability.
Should of been traded to Freo at the end of 2005 , and he is still here, please :banghead :banghead
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The media might as well have a guess. It's a 50/50 chance of being right ::).
The Club has done an amazing job keeping this in house for once.
Hardwick. ;)
Ramps is gonnna have one horny chubby!!!!!
A definite hard wick lol
Boom boom lol
Outta here
:stupid :eyebrow
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Cogs a dud? Now I've heard everything
Well , he is.
he couldnt kick over a jam tim before his knee injury, now he cant kick at all.
The RFC isnt a superannuation fund for footballers whose inspirations are greater than the true ability.
Should of been traded to Freo at the end of 2005 , and he is still here, please :banghead :banghead
THIS IS WHY RICHO MUST RETIRE OR be retired
its time for change , real change, no keeping ppl on the list for sentimental reasons, not for keeping them on for what they have done
but we must keep them on for what they can deliver in the future
thus richo, snake and brown must all be gone as their best is behind them and they wont be part of the future is we have one
cuz to stay because he brings much more to the table, is still a class player but still leads from the front when it comes to leadership and the drive to win!!!!!
change must come and their must be no excuses not even for richo
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Cogs a dud? Now I've heard everything
Well , he is.
he couldnt kick over a jam tim before his knee injury, now he cant kick at all.
The RFC isnt a superannuation fund for footballers whose inspirations are greater than the true ability.
Should of been traded to Freo at the end of 2005 , and he is still here, please :banghead :banghead
He was leading the B&F when he did his knee
Injuries have ruined his career, that doesn't make him a dud
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Cogs a dud? Now I've heard everything
Well , he is.
he couldnt kick over a jam tim before his knee injury, now he cant kick at all.
The RFC isnt a superannuation fund for footballers whose inspirations are greater than the true ability.
Should of been traded to Freo at the end of 2005 , and he is still here, please :banghead :banghead
He was leading the B&F when he did his knee
Injuries have ruined his career, that doesn't make him a dud
Was having an average year in an average team.
You must want RFC to stay bottom 4 :banghead
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anyone who cant kick over 40 metres is a dud. VFL player at best. At his prime he was great but he is not in his prime and we need to rid the club of these retirees who are not going to be part of our club moving forward.
Luke Ball like Cogs, is finished.
Richo cant lay tackles if his life depended on it and sadly if we are to move forward to the future, sorry big fella he must go too.
Even when he does play Richo he doesnt lay enough defensive pressure for mine in an area where we lack so much.
As much as i love him the younger guys see this from him and follow his lead. No more enough of this old blokes. Richo to go only after the brown's and the black belt giraffe go first.
Hawks did it cleverly and stole massive picks with Barker, Thompsom, Hay and we need to do the same.
Have some balls RFC and start again...Properly this time!!
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Hawks did it cleverly and stole massive picks with Barker, Thompsom, Hay and we need to do the same.
Easier said that done
No club will be stupid enough to do what North did in trading for Hay & Thompson for those sorts of picks
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The media might as well have a guess. It's a 50/50 chance of being right ::).
The Club has done an amazing job keeping this in house for once.
Hardwick. ;)
Ramps is gonnna have one horny chubby!!!!!
A definite hard wick lol
Boom boom lol
Outta here
:stupid :eyebrow
so does ramps hard wick light ur fire
lol
;D ;D :lol :lol :lol
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The media might as well have a guess. It's a 50/50 chance of being right ::).
The Club has done an amazing job keeping this in house for once.
Hardwick. ;)
Ramps is gonnna have one horny chubby!!!!!
A definite hard wick lol
Boom boom lol
Outta here
:stupid :eyebrow
so does ramps hard wick light ur fire
lol
;D ;D :lol :lol :lol
Not even funny and your laughing at your own gags- not a good sign ... As for Hardwick if he gets the coaching role and he fails then Ill be on here with others asking that his role be terminated.
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... As for Hardwick if he gets the coaching role and he fails then Ill be on here with others asking that his role be terminated.
Serious question Ramps
Whoever gets the gig will get 3 years I reckon, how long into those 3 years do you give them before you really start to question if they are the right person?
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... As for Hardwick if he gets the coaching role and he fails then Ill be on here with others asking that his role be terminated.
Serious question Ramps
Whoever gets the gig will get 3 years I reckon, how long into those 3 years do you give them before you really start to question if they are the right person?
2 years
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Cogs a dud? Now I've heard everything
Well , he is.
he couldnt kick over a jam tim before his knee injury, now he cant kick at all.
The RFC isnt a superannuation fund for footballers whose inspirations are greater than the true ability.
Should of been traded to Freo at the end of 2005 , and he is still here, please :banghead :banghead
He was leading the B&F when he did his knee
Injuries have ruined his career, that doesn't make him a dud
Was having an average year in an average team.
You must want RFC to stay bottom 4 :banghead
No reply Infamy hey ???
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I didn't realise I needed to
Not much point arguing with arrogant ignorant narcissits like yourself
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I didn't realise I needed to
Not much point arguing with arrogant ignorant narcissits like yourself
Hey Mr Football, you still couldnt answer the question :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin :rollin
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It was a stupid question that doesn't even dignify a response
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Hey Mr Football, you still couldnt answer the question :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin :rollin
that's funy Jack - you do it all the time, get asked a question and not answer it :rollin :lol
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Mike on the Couch tonight guessed Hardwick has his nose in front.
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Can confirm this.
Ken Hinkley has told Brian Cook at Geelong yesterday that RFC is going to offer the position to Hardwick.
Its up to Hardwick to accept the position it seems.
Bump, will be offered on Wednesday
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Some clown on BF is saying his fantastic sources have told him that both Hinkley and Hardwick will be offered the position.... can you believe that one.... :lol
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Some clown on BF is saying his fantastic sources have told him that both Hinkley and Hardwick will be offered the position.... can you believe that one.... :lol
If we're looking at the same post I'm pretty sure he's taking the pee.
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Tigers decide, but stay mum on who will coach
Caroline Wilson | August 25, 2009
RICHMOND will today appoint a new senior coach for the next three years with Damien Hardwick and Ken Hinkley last night waiting to learn of their coaching fates.
Both men made their final presentations to the Tigers' board two days ago immediately before club president Gary March's departure to New Zealand on business.
Hardwick, who was also interviewed last week by Port Adelaide with a view to taking over as senior coach at in 2012, is expected to vacate his role at Hawthorn almost immediately should he win the job whether or not the Hawks make the finals. Geelong has indicated it wants to retain Hinkley until its 2009 campaign has been completed.
Hinkley, a former Cat who began his coaching career under Malcolm Blight at St Kilda, made his case to the board first with Hardwick following shortly afterwards. The prevailing view last night was that the club had virtually reached its decision, but was refusing to make it public until both men had been told.
The Tigers' new CEO, Brendon Gale, who observed the two presentations, officially began his duties at Tigerland yesterday while the majority of the Richmond staff went to Kyabram for the funeral of Kayne Pettifer's father.
While Hinkley did not apply for the North Melbourne coaching job, Hardwick was briefly interviewed by the Roos which later appointed former Brisbane premiership player Brad Scott.
Despite ongoing tension and suggestions of instability at Port Adelaide, which reappointed coach Mark Williams for two years last month, the Richmond coaching position remains the last to be filled.
With a number of delistings, retirements and potential trades looming for the struggling club, both Hinkley and Hardwick made strong cases for the job making its clear the Tigers were headed for a significant rebuild before they had any hope of success.
Gary March was unavailable for comment last night.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/tigers-decide-but-stay-mum/2009/08/24/1251001856707.html
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Richmond Tigers may have coach tomorrow
Jon Ralph | August 25, 2009
RICHMOND is expected to reveal its new coach tomorrow, after the coaching subcommittee met on Sunday to consider candidates Ken Hinkley and Damien Hardwick.
It is believed neither has yet been informed of their fate, with midweek looming as the most likely date for the announcement.
Many of the club's executive and football department travelled to country Victoria yesterday for the funeral of forward Kayne Pettifer's father, Mick.
Richmond president Gary March is on business in New Zealand, but will return in time for the announcement, which is likely tomorrow morning.
The Tigers told caretaker coach Jade Rawlings and Essendon assistant Alan Richardson on Friday they had been cut from the four-man shortlist.
That allowed Hinkley and Hardwick one final meeting with Richmond over the weekend before a final decision was made.
Hinkley shortened to $1.17 with bookmakers midway through last week, but Hardwick is also being strongly considered.
History has shown the final interview has a massive bearing, with Hardwick beaten by Matthew Knights two years ago after a poor final interview in front of the Essendon board.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25976571-19742,00.html
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Some clown on BF is saying his fantastic sources have told him that both Hinkley and Hardwick will be offered the position.... can you believe that one.... :lol
yep and whoever says "SNAP" gets the job
Actually the highlight of this whole process as it draws to a close is the fact the media haven't got a clue .... they are guessing and so for that i say well done RFC
Can I just add that my preference is for whoever gets the job they should leave the current club immediately, no ifs, buts or maybes. Our season fininshes on Friday, they are required at their new office next Monday IMHO
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Some clown on BF is saying his fantastic sources have told him that both Hinkley and Hardwick will be offered the position.... can you believe that one.... :lol
Might be because of the Port Adelaide factor. ;)
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SEN saying Hardwick and Hinkley will know of the final decision today.
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SEN had breaking news.....
Mark Thompson doesn't know whether Hinkley has the job..... ::)
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Schwarz said he spoke to Nigel Lappin who's an assistant at Geelong and Lappin said Hinkley is the best person he's ever worked with.
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Caro said she doesn't know who has got it as to her knowledge before she arrived at 3aw she believes the candidate themself doesn't know yet. Healy said he'd be surprised if the winning candidate doesn't know tonight. Caro thinks as she has all along that Hardwick is favourite and would be surprised if he didn't get it but she doesn't know.
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scooty on PRE thinks it might be Hird.
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Can confirm this.
Ken Hinkley has told Brian Cook at Geelong yesterday that RFC is going to offer the position to Hardwick.
Its up to Hardwick to accept the position it seems.
Bump, will be offered on Wednesday
I'm sorry but I refuse to believe anyone who quotes their own posts.
You are taking a 50/50 shot at it Jackstar, admit it.
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Serious question Ramps
Whoever gets the gig will get 3 years I reckon, how long into those 3 years do you give them before you really start to question if they are the right person?
2 years
I was thinking more along the lines of 11 weeks myself ;) ;D
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Finey on SEN saying they know for a "fact" who the new coach is and will be announcing it after the ad break.
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The age are reporting Hardwick
http://news.realfooty.com.au/breaking-news-sport/hardwick-named-afl-coach-at-tigers-20090825-exzl.html
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The media are running with Hardwick. Still no confirmation from the Club though.
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Can confirm this.
Ken Hinkley has told Brian Cook at Geelong yesterday that RFC is going to offer the position to Hardwick.
Its up to Hardwick to accept the position it seems.
Bump, will be offered on Wednesday
Hardwick knew on the weekend. ;)
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Can confirm this.
Ken Hinkley has told Brian Cook at Geelong yesterday that RFC is going to offer the position to Hardwick.
Its up to Hardwick to accept the position it seems.
Bump, will be offered on Wednesday
I'm sorry but I refuse to believe anyone who quotes their own posts.
You are taking a 50/50 shot at it Jackstar, admit it.
I was told sunday morning he had the job, but whats the point explaining to imbeciles on internet forums ::)
As I said, Hinkley told Geelong on Saturday he wasnt the preffered option., read my post!
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well done on the inside scoop jack
still not official yet...
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well done on the inside scoop jack
still not official yet...
Can tell you its on the money
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Serious question Ramps
Whoever gets the gig will get 3 years I reckon, how long into those 3 years do you give them before you really start to question if they are the right person?
2 years
I was thinking more along the lines of 11 weeks myself ;) ;D
11 WEEKS could be right if he doesnt get the axe out and starts chopping the list. In the end, if he doesnt go through the joint then the players will do to him what theyve done to every other coach over the last 20 years. Its him or then and as a former PM used to say- "Always Back Self Interest" Hardwick should use this as his philosophy over the next 3 months. Get rid of the crap and start again. In 11 weeks we will know.
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Serious question Ramps
Whoever gets the gig will get 3 years I reckon, how long into those 3 years do you give them before you really start to question if they are the right person?
2 years
I was thinking more along the lines of 11 weeks myself ;) ;D
11 WEEKS could be right if he doesnt get the axe out and starts chopping the list. In the end, if he doesnt go through the joint then the players will do to him what theyve done to every other coach over the last 20 years. Its him or then and as a former PM used to say- "Always Back Self Interest" Hardwick should use this as his philosophy over the next 3 months. Get rid of the crap and start again. In 11 weeks we will know.
Agree Ramps. Let's hope Craig Cameron is on the same page as Hardwick regarding the above and FJ can deliver at the draft table the type of players we need (a big key forward and more solid classy ballwinners in the midfield).