Is the list is better shape? Geelong spankings, 2007 vs 2010

[Judge Roughneck]

2007

222 v 65

Richmond defeated by Geelong 
Round 6, Etihad Stadium, Attendance: 34584
Sunday, 6th May 2007, 5:10 PM AEST
Brownlow Votes: 3: G Ablett, 2: J Corey, 1: A Mackie

Nathan Foley 12 16 28 3 0 1 8 1 2 2 6 0 3 102 108
Shane Tuck 13 8 21 5 2 1 6 3 0 2 6 3 1 110 96
Joel Bowden 11 8 19 5 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 69 86
Kayne Pettifer 18 1 19 6 1 1 2 0 1 2 2 3 1 89 85
Andrew Raines 14 5 19 4 0 0 2 0 0 0 3 1 3 64 74
Kane Johnson 8 6 14 4 0 0 2 0 0 0 3 0 3 47 38
Cleve Hughes 12 2 14 8 3 3 0 0 0 3 0 2 0 87 86
Graham Polak 9 4 13 8 0 0 1 2 0 0 2 0 1 62 82
Matthew Richardson 12 1 13 7 2 2 0 11 0 2 5 4 1 85 75
Chris Newman 8 4 12 3 0 1 5 0 0 0 1 0 1 59 65
Kelvin Moore 6 6 12 5 0 0 2 1 0 0 1 2 1 53 87
Matthew White 9 3 12 5 1 0 4 0 0 1 4 0 1 67 66
Jake King 7 4 11 2 0 1 0 0 1 1 2 2 1 35 41
Luke McGuane 5 5 10 4 0 0 3 0 0 0 2 0 0 49 57
Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls 9 1 10 9 0 0 1 0 0 0 4 0 2 54 -3
Chris Hyde 3 4 7 2 0 0 4 0 0 0 2 0 0 39 32
Danny Meyer 5 2 7 2 0 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 33 29
Brett Deledio 1 5 6 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 2 1 19 19
Richard Tambling 2 4 6 0 0 0 3 1 0 0 0 1 0 28 35
Daniel Jackson 4 1 5 2 0 0 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 36 38
Troy Simmonds 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 11 0 0 0 0 2 7 -10
Jay Schulz 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

2010

161 v 53

Geelong defeats Richmond 
Round 6, Skilled Stadium, Attendance: 24106
Sunday, 2nd May 2010, 1:10 PM AEST

Shane Tuck 12 26 38 6 0 0 3 0 0 0 1 2 1 117 145
Brett Deledio 18 16 34 8 0 0 1 0 0 0 6 0 1 111 80
Chris Newman 21 7 28 7 0 1 2 0 1 1 4 0 0 107 123
Ben Cousins 10 16 26 4 0 0 4 0 0 0 4 0 0 90 62
Andrew Collins 6 13 19 4 0 0 5 0 0 0 2 1 2 71 55
Dean Polo 7 11 18 6 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 62 75
David Astbury 10 7 17 5 0 0 2 0 1 1 1 0 0 67 43
Daniel Jackson 3 13 16 2 0 0 8 0 0 0 1 1 2 68 39
Shane Edwards 7 9 16 1 0 0 3 0 0 0 3 0 1 51 69
Troy Simmonds 3 11 14 4 0 0 2 16 0 0 2 2 2 63 55
Alex Rance 3 11 14 2 0 1 1 1 1 1 2 0 3 34 18
Mitch Morton 7 6 13 3 0 1 4 0 0 0 3 1 1 57 46
Mitch Farmer 10 3 13 2 1 0 3 0 1 2 3 1 0 61 65
Ben Nason 8 5 13 2 2 0 2 0 0 2 4 0 0 60 58
Kelvin Moore 5 7 12 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 31 43
Jack Riewoldt 11 1 12 4 3 4 4 0 0 3 2 1 1 83 64
Robin Nahas 4 8 12 2 1 0 4 0 0 1 1 0 0 56 52
Nathan Foley 9 2 11 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 1 1 46 25
Luke McGuane 3 8 11 1 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 2 2 36 56
Tyrone Vickery 2 8 10 3 0 0 2 6 0 0 2 2 1 44 36
Will Thursfield 3 6 9 1 0 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 34 59
Matthew Dea 0 6 6 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 23 28
 
 

[the_boy_jake]

I reckon that the 2007 list would defeat the 2010 list, but 2010 has more 'upside'.

That said, it isn't clear how much potential is in the list and its going to take a spectacular effort to build it into a regular finals team. And even if we do that some very good recruiting to turn it into a genuine flag contender.

[crannyvegas]

that 2010 side is pretty horrible
taking out martin, cotchin & tambling and the side looks pretty vagrant.

eugh, we are such a long way from being anything other than pathetic, as the year goes on im getting more and more despondent about it all.

I can't imagine how this playing list gets up week to week, knowing whats coming. Hopefully they are spurred on over the next weeks by some better oppertunities to win.

[Judge Roughneck]

2010:

Geelong Attribute Richmond 
188.3cm Height 187.0cm
91.1kg Weight 82.7kg
26yr 3mth Age 23yr 7mth
111.7 Games 64.1

Take out Simmonds & Cousins and the average age of the Richmond 22 would be v young

[eliminator]

We are going to have to be very patient. The 2010 side is a very young side. Youth is on its side. At least since 2007 we have recruited some key position players. But having said that by years end there will be another significant cull of the list

[Francois Jackson]

we have too many of the same type of players. We cant build a list with what we currently have got. Another 12-15 need to go.

watching this 2001 replay we had a list skinny list even back then.  Fiora, Holland, D Bourke

[Hellenic Tiger]

Although 2007 would beat the current 2010 side the upside is this.

Veterans were the better players in 2007

Young players are the better players in the 2010, players who can still be at the club 5 years from now.
Plus Wallace is no longer coaching. Clearly better off now.

Furthermore this years wooden spoon is expected and we are preparing and acting accordingly.
2007's wooden spoon although expected after about round 4 and especially the rd 6 debacle against the Cats was not on the horizon for many after we finished 11-11 the year before  and some were even saying we might be a silly chance to squeeze into the 8. How wrong we were with no game plan and a coach who was there for a five year plan of stacking his bank balance and selling us a message of hope but giving us a dose of false hysteria. Club Coach and the List clearly better off in 2010.

[tdy]

2010:

Geelong Attribute Richmond 
188.3cm Height 187.0cm
91.1kg Weight 82.7kg
26yr 3mth Age 23yr 7mth
111.7 Games 64.1

Take out Simmonds & Cousins and the average age of the Richmond 22 would be v young

That weight difference is huge.  You'd hope it just relates to age and not training but Ive always thought we were a bit skinny.

[Infamy]

2010:

Geelong Attribute Richmond 
188.3cm Height 187.0cm
91.1kg Weight 82.7kg
26yr 3mth Age 23yr 7mth
111.7 Games 64.1

Take out Simmonds & Cousins and the average age of the Richmond 22 would be v young

That weight difference is huge.  You'd hope it just relates to age and not training but Ive always thought we were a bit skinny.

3 Years x 3kg weight gain per player per preseason would make up the difference

[eliminator]

Well put Tuckerbag