Author Topic: Is it fair to hold a grudge against players moving clubs?  (Read 2755 times)

Offline bojangles17

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Re: Is it fair to hold a grudge against players moving clubs?
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2012, 09:38:23 PM »
Almost all of us (except for Bojangles who lives in his own dimension) would happily cut any player who we don't think is performing.

In my opinion that means we forgo the right to complain when players leave us.

please explain ::)
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Re: Is it fair to hold a grudge against players moving clubs?
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2012, 10:16:56 PM »
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Re: Is it fair to hold a grudge against players moving clubs?
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2012, 10:32:00 PM »
I reckon we actually tried too hard to keep players in the past because of idiot supporter reactions.

Nick Daffy, Darren Gaspar, Ben Holland, Wayne Campbell to name a few who screwed us over when we probably should've said "you know what? Eff off mate" and called their bluff.

I think of the irony when Leigh Colbert left the Cats because they went through the sam crap in the 80s and 90s when their stars ran the club.

The Ottens trade was a sign of the club developing the maturity to let go.

If Lids left, it would impact us less than G Ablett leaving the Cats and so it would become a true test of the strength and resolve of the club and the list.

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Re: Is it fair to hold a grudge against players moving clubs?
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2012, 12:03:47 AM »
Can't possibly be a straight yes or no answer in i'd say about 95% of cases. Each case would have to be looked at in its own context and each case would have it's own variables. Are there times when supporters would have a legitimate reason to be disgruntled with players that leave them, I'd say "yes" but i'd also say "No". Each case needs to be judged on its own merits.
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Re: Is it fair to hold a grudge against players moving clubs?
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2012, 08:08:46 AM »
As a supporter my loyalty is to my club first, not those using draining it of its resources for selfish gain.  Anyone shafting my club gets my ire, business logic is without ethics and will eventually be dealt with like any soulless mechanism with legislation, rules etc.  We are human beings, we form our tribes, nations, clubs and loyalty is important to most of us, those who betray it will collect their coin but we are not going to pat them on the back.  This "'it's a business" bs will be the new excuse for hocking off our nation one day.  People are not a business, society is not a business.  This game was part of our cultural heritage and was hijacked by business and not because we wanted it to be.
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Re: Is it fair to hold a grudge against players moving clubs?
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2012, 08:50:09 AM »
Owl, what do you make of someone like Andrew Raines? His oppurtunity at Tigerland had pretty much dried up, so when Brisbane were keen he jumped at the chance for a fresh start. Is there something wrong with that or should every player stick with a club even if it's not for their own good?

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Re: Is it fair to hold a grudge against players moving clubs?
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2012, 09:03:08 AM »
People and money make business, like it or lump it that is what makes the world go around.
People and money have also made the AFL business a very lucrative incime for the elite athletes of the country.
So that oldchestnut about having a cake and eating it applies here.
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Re: Is it fair to hold a grudge against players moving clubs?
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2012, 12:52:49 PM »
actually, it was just that opportunists saw that they could fleece us for a quid when they saw we were coming to watch the games and new and improved ways of divesting us rubes of our sheckles to follow our cult evolved from there.  Frankly I have no problem with those who have to seek opportunity elsewhere if they are not cutting the mustard with us, as was the case with Raines, It suited both parties.  The idea of McTigers with no soul leaves me cold and I will quickly lose interest if it ever gets anything like the soccer or even like the rugby with bs trading etc.  There is a bit of it now with some big trades which adds some flavor but you don't wanting it going hog wild or it will turn into a joke.
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Re: Is it fair to hold a grudge against players moving clubs?
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2012, 02:25:47 PM »
KB nearly went to colonwoood. It was Hafey that convinced him otherwise.

Wouldnt have been much of a loss though, just another skinny bloke that got knocked off the ball too easily
I thought K.B actually signed with essendon but Tommy hafey talked him out of it.  IIRC it had something to do with the fact that Jewell wanted to move him to half forward & KB didn't want to leave the midfield.
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Re: Is it fair to hold a grudge against players moving clubs?
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2012, 05:35:02 PM »
dunno about the essendon one, but hafey talked him out of going to colonwoood. Hafey lamented his 7 goals in the 1980 granny saying if he hadnt of talked him out of it and kb had kicked those 7 for the pies they would have won. I think he says that with a bit of tongue in cheek though.
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Re: Is it fair to hold a grudge against players moving clubs?
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2012, 06:25:52 PM »
Always will!

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