The prototype

[Judge Roughneck]

So thats the prototype atm. will we get there? looking fairly doubtful one might say




   
Player   K   HB   D   M   G   B   T   HO   I50   FF   FA   AF   SC
Jordan Lewis   21   16   37   8   0   0   3   8   5   0   0   139   134
Luke Hodge   21   14   35   12   2   1   4   3   4   1   1   157   137
Sam Mitchell   15   18   33   9   0   1   9   0   3   1   0   146   146
Josh Gibson   13   19   32   6   0   0   1   0   2   0   1   96   89
Grant Birchall   18   7   25   7   0   0   0   0   2   0   0   89   82
Shaun Burgoyne   11   13   24   4   2   0   1   0   4   0   0   87   101
Bradley Hill   13   10   23   6   1   0   3   0   4   0   0   95   98
Liam Shiels   12   10   22   2   0   1   5   0   6   1   1   81   85
Benjamin Stratton   13   9   22   5   0   0   2   0   2   1   1   78   105
William Langford   16   5   21   3   3   0   6   0   6   0   2   103   111
Brian Lake   10   10   20   7   0   0   3   0   0   1   2   78   92
Matthew Suckling   12   6   18   3   1   0   2   0   4   0   0   71   79
Jack Gunston   11   7   18   5   2   3   1   0   1   1   0   82   96
Luke Breust   11   6   17   4   3   1   5   0   5   5   1   98   108
Isaac Smith   10   7   17   5   0   0   1   0   4   1   1   61   49
Matthew Spangher   6   9   15   2   0   0   1   0   2   2   0   48   58
Ben McEvoy   4   11   15   5   0   1   3   14   0   1   1   74   93
Jarryd Roughead   11   2   13   5   5   1   2   0   1   1   4   80   73
Paul Puopolo   5   5   10   1   1   1   4   0   3   0   0   51   56
Cyril Rioli   5   4   9   0   0   0   2   0   3   1   1   29   52
Taylor Duryea   5   4   9   3   0   0   1   0   3   1   0   37   31
David Hale   2   5   7   3   1   0   4   10   0   0   2   51   59




The back-line comparison is especially suspect.

hodge/birchall/Burgoyne/Harris/Gibson  v  Houli/Chaplin/Morris/Pettard/Newman etc.

Without Deledios class behind the ball its a struggle.

[tdy]

Their age cliff is about to happen.

Hale
Burgoyne
Mitchell
Hodge
Lake
Gibson

All old and about to retire, could they have won it without those players? Prob not. We will only get to that age profile when the Cotch generation are about to retire. Our 25+ y.o. players are not that good.
The question for the Hawks will be how many go out on a high.

[Darth Tiger]

Their age cliff is about to happen.

Hale
Burgoyne
Mitchell
Hodge
Lake
Gibson

All old and about to retire, could they have won it without those players? Prob not. We will only get to that age profile when the Cotch generation are about to retire. Our 25+ y.o. players are not that good.
The question for the Hawks will be how many go out on a high.

Of those listed, 4 have been specifically recruited from other clubs and 2 are from the 2001 draft.

What is the draft year that will form the backbone of an RFC era ?

RFC have some quality from the 1st round, but where is the depth ?

Really do need to invest in the draft and identify 2nd, 3rd & 4th round talent that can contribute significantly by being ranked 7th to 18th on playing list. That is where a squad will form to run deep into September.

Moneyball will not build a sustainable assault towards a top 4 & premiership squad, it just tops it up.

[Chuck17]

It's been said for ages that the Swans are on an age cliff and don't invest in enough youth, but they just keep on being competitive every year

[Darth Tiger]

I'd suggest that the Swans are on a salary cap cliff. 

[lamington]

I'm curious to see if the Hawks can cover the retirements (whenever it may be) of Mitchell and Hodge. They're consistently best on the field and from my limited viewing of Hawks games I haven't seen anyone with the same leadership and ball movement abilities of the 2. We got a glimpse of it when the Swans beat a Mitchell-less and Hodge-less Hawthorn fairly comfortably in Round 8, Port beat them in round 10 when Mitchell was still out.

By no means do I think the retirement of these 2 players will mean they will slip out of the 8, but I do think those 2 are essential to be flag contenders and I don't think the Hawks have the personnel to cover the loss of these 2 just yet. 

[Rampstar]

they are desperate to get Cotchin at the end of next year and will make him a massive offer to get him across

[WilliamPowell]

they are desperate to get Cotchin at the end of next year and will make him a massive offer to get him across

Were you at the B&F last night Ramps, tables down the back were talking about that "rumour" 

Cotchin is coming into the final year of his contract. Just like the carry on with Dangerfield until he re-signs the rumours and speculation will swirl around.

It's all easily solved! Time to tell his manager to get it done 

[The Big Richo]

I'll tell you what the anti-prototype is.

1. Come up with a strategic plan.

2. Announce it.

3. Barely refer to it during the course of the plan.

4. Fail in 2 out of 3 areas.

5. President and CEO stand up at club function and heap praise on everyone in the club for their execution of said plan.

[WilliamPowell]

The CEO didn't speak last night

Actually didn't see Benny at all, perhaps he's off on holidays with the family 

[taztiger4]

The CEO didn't speak last night

Actually didn't see Benny at all, perhaps he's off on holidays with the family 

I saw him there

[Francois Jackson]

they are desperate to get Cotchin at the end of next year and will make him a massive offer to get him across

Were you at the B&F last night Ramps, tables down the back were talking about that "rumour" 

Cotchin is coming into the final year of his contract. Just like the carry on with Dangerfield until he re-signs the rumours and speculation will swirl around.

It's all easily solved! Time to tell his manager to get it done 

as if he would ever leave. Club captain. 3 time. Leader

no chance

LMFAO at all the big clubs having room but not the tigers because we have rance dusty and cotch

[WilliamPowell]

The CEO didn't speak last night

Actually didn't see Benny at all, perhaps he's off on holidays with the family 

I saw him there

Cool
 
I wasn't on the lookout for him

Was too busy catching up with a couple of players and friends

And trying to get some gossip 

[big tone]

The CEO didn't speak last night

Actually didn't see Benny at all, perhaps he's off on holidays with the family 

I saw him there

Cool
 
I wasn't on the lookout for him

Was too busy catching up with a couple of players and friends

And trying to get some gossip 

Get any?

[The Big Richo]

The CEO didn't speak last night

Actually didn't see Benny at all, perhaps he's off on holidays with the family 

He was interviewed on the webcast.