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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2015, 12:32:37 PM »
Edwards by the length of flemington straight ;)

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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2015, 01:14:32 PM »
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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2015, 10:32:00 PM »
Isn't Shed elite?

Yes he is. Some are just a little slow to catch on.

Ahahaha but Dusty is only very good because he doesn't run both ways. Ahahahaha :help

He also needs to tidy up his short chip turnovers.

As opposed to Shed's tokenistic cameos,
Momentum killing,
Missing set shots at goal,
25 possession match winning performances.
One on one ability to beat the best in the comp.
Run and carry and kick the ball 50 metres.
10-20 goals a year and going missing in large chunks of games
It must be the silent contribution he makes to the team 2 quarters a game week to week.

But yeah he's elite.

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Sad and a total loss of credability  when posters like magic feel the need to talk the likes of edwards up as elite footballers.
hes been exactly the same  sort of player since 2010. there is little or no real improvement and he has certainly hit his ceiling. could argue he hit his ceiling in 2010.
the same criticisms of his game remain and i have little doubt will remain as there is no upside to him. what you see you get warts and all.
while not as bad as some  i ask surely we can do better. this bloke has and always will fail us when we need players to stand up you only need look at his attributes and ask yourself what he needs as a small player to succeed, to see why.

personally im prepared to admit im a hard judge but even taking that into consideration edwards is decent at best.it is still the same odd good game many ordinary games with some deplorable ones thrown in. he goes from good to awful thru games even.he has good hands and does win contested ball but for me that is where it stops.unfortunately he doesnt have the attributes to improve the areas he needs to. he never has.

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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2015, 10:50:18 PM »
What about Wells then? No 2 draft pick, you love sticking boots into our players why not judge Wells
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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2015, 11:50:09 PM »
What about Wells then? No 2 draft pick, you love sticking boots into our players why not judge Wells
i watch our players week in week out  unlike most opposition players. im no fan of wells either but id take him over edwards.

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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2015, 12:53:01 AM »
shed is not best 22
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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2015, 08:29:34 AM »
I really don't understand why so many blinkered posters want to focus on the past.
Shed is clearly a better option than Wells atm. Not 5 years ago. Now.

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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2015, 12:23:00 PM »
I really don't understand why so many blinkered posters want to focus on the past.
Shed is clearly a better option than Wells atm. Not 5 years ago. Now.

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wells easily. In fact wells on one leg and he would probably still be in front.

Whats edwards done when you really think about it. He is barely at 1 goal a game and he plays more forward than wells. Has he played well at times, yes of course but when the going gets tough he always goes missing

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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2015, 02:03:10 PM »
I really don't understand why so many blinkered posters want to focus on the past.
Shed is clearly a better option than Wells atm. Not 5 years ago. Now.
what is different about him in 2014  to 2010 and  the yrs in between. forget his first three yrs which were appalling  and write em off as development yrs.

the complaint has remained he goes missing in far too many games, his disposal is ordinary, he lacks pace imo and he just doesnt find enough ball consistently enough.
in his 152 games how many times has he had 25 possesions or more just 6 times is the answer.how many times has he had 30  or more  possesions just once.

for a mid id say 20 possesions is the bare minimum how many times a yr does he have more than 20 possesions. 6 7 times a yr.

as i said he has good hands in tight he gets his share of contested ball but that is where it stops.
in the words of jack dyer hes a good ordinary player, also voicing jacks sentiments hes too often where the ball aint.

to finish nope edwards is not a better player than wells. the major difference being wells pace runand carry, class, and ball use.nowdays hes often tagged because of the hurt factor when he has the ball.

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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2015, 04:54:27 PM »
With the talent Wells has at his disposal, he is no. 1 for underachievers in the AFL. Edwards clearance work and score involvements are elite :shh 

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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2015, 06:19:43 PM »
Shed stepped up in 2014, from the geelong game onwards he played to a good standard imo. Needs to continue that though.

 Would take Wells between the 2 of them

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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2015, 10:35:25 PM »
Wells hardly got on the park last year. At 30 injuries have had an impact.
He's underachieved a little given his skill set but if he can regain his best then he's the better player that's for sure.
Certainly he's a fine outside type.
Would love a Wells type (at his best) at Richmond.

Titch has some great skills and was terrific for us in the back half of last season. He's effective up forward and when on the ball and sits comfortably in the 22. Lots of figures bandied about and there's truth, lies and damn statistics but Champion Data rated him as elite for the role he plays in this year's AFL prospectus so he's clearly doing a lot right.
Think he is underrated by some Richmond supporters but he hasn't yet shown the consistency that's required to quell all of his detractors.
The back half of last season is what he needs to deliver all year.
Then he might get mentioned with the better players of the competition. He's certainly not there yet.
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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2015, 09:33:16 PM »
Wells hardly got on the park last year. At 30 injuries have had an impact.
He's underachieved a little given his skill set but if he can regain his best then he's the better player that's for sure.
Certainly he's a fine outside type.
Would love a Wells type (at his best) at Richmond.

Titch has some great skills and was terrific for us in the back half of last season. He's effective up forward and when on the ball and sits comfortably in the 22. Lots of figures bandied about and there's truth, lies and damn statistics but Champion Data rated him as elite for the role he plays in this year's AFL prospectus so he's clearly doing a lot right.
Think he is underrated by some Richmond supporters but he hasn't yet shown the consistency that's required to quell all of his detractors.
The back half of last season is what he needs to deliver all year.
Then he might get mentioned with the better players of the competition. He's certainly not there yet.
i watched him fairly closely last yr and i broke his season down thus

10 games below standard.
11 games up to standard of which many i gave him the benefit of the doubt.
2 very good games.

i thouight he was servicable in just 3 of the first 10 games and he certainly should have been dropped.

to me this is not consistent or a high standard yet nuffies are calling his season elite.

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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2015, 10:35:50 PM »
The Essendon game in round 19 is classic Titch.
Does a few nice things kicks a couple of goals = tick.

Lets him and his teammates down same day with a couple of clangers and indecisive moments and the embarassment of being closelined and getting a holding the ball against and tat night was his best game of the year.

Best thing he did all year was the final quarter v Sydney up there when he ran into the pocket and rather than shoot go inboard and the kick it to can't remember 20 out dead in front.

Stuff like that is far too seldom. After 8 seasons he should be doing this consistently not sporadically.

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Re: Face off: Shane Edwards vs Daniel Wells ..... (afl site)
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2015, 10:46:31 PM »
Wells hardly got on the park last year. At 30 injuries have had an impact.
He's underachieved a little given his skill set but if he can regain his best then he's the better player that's for sure.
Certainly he's a fine outside type.
Would love a Wells type (at his best) at Richmond.

Titch has some great skills and was terrific for us in the back half of last season. He's effective up forward and when on the ball and sits comfortably in the 22. Lots of figures bandied about and there's truth, lies and damn statistics but Champion Data rated him as elite for the role he plays in this year's AFL prospectus so he's clearly doing a lot right.
Think he is underrated by some Richmond supporters but he hasn't yet shown the consistency that's required to quell all of his detractors.
The back half of last season is what he needs to deliver all year.
Then he might get mentioned with the better players of the competition. He's certainly not there yet.
i watched him fairly closely last yr and i broke his season down thus

10 games below standard.
11 games up to standard of which many i gave him the benefit of the doubt.
2 very good games.

i thouight he was servicable in just 3 of the first 10 games and he certainly should have been dropped.

to me this is not consistent or a high standard yet nuffies are calling his season elite.

Fair. I certainly don't think he's anywhere near an 'elite' player in the comp yet clawsy but he's nowhere near as bad as some suggest either.
The truth probably lies somewhere in between.
Shane has some exceptional skills that others don't possess but he also fails to show up at times too.
He's a bit symptomatic of the whole team unfortunately. Far too inconsistent.
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